00:00Gracias por estar en M2 y como
00:08les decíamos la semana pasada
00:09Ivette Salgado, hay tanto
00:10material, hay tantas
00:11entrevistas. Empezamos con tu
00:14encuentro con La Roca. Exacto,
00:16fue increíble ver cómo está él
00:19después de todo lo que ocurrió
00:20en Venecia, después de esos
00:22quince minutos y medios de
00:24ovación, y cómo es que se va
00:25perfilando rumbo a posiblemente
00:28las premiaciones. ¿Lo ves? ¿Lo
00:29ves ahí? Sí, yo creo que está
00:31esto está diseñado para eso en
00:33muchos sentidos, pero también
00:34después de platicar con él, tanto
00:35tú, como la oportunidad que
00:37tuvimos de estar con él en un
00:38evento platicando, se nota que
00:40sí significa algo muy profundo
00:42para él, entonces tiene los dos
00:43factores, vamos a ver. Los dos
00:45factores, te refieres a... El
00:47emocional, el auténtico, y la
00:49campaña de vamos por el premio.
00:52Vamos por los premios. Ajá,
00:53aunque eso, y te lo preguntaba
00:54por la siguiente situación,
00:56aunque eso represente
00:56sacrificar un poco su taquilla.
00:58Ah, no, porque, oye, siento
01:00que el mundo le está
01:00reclamando, es que no tiene la
01:02misma taquilla que sus anteriores
01:04películas. No tendría por qué. Es
01:05que esta es una película
01:06completamente distinta, y cuando
01:08tengan la oportunidad de verla,
01:10verán justamente el tipo de
01:12personaje que está interpretando,
01:14que si bien es un luchador,
01:15Toca... Mark Kerr. Exacto. Toca
01:17matices muy profundos. Adelante, Roca.
01:20Este es el gran frío para que
01:29se encuentre el mayor
01:30luchador del mundo.
01:34He ha vuelto de la brinca.
01:36Vamos a ver si puede
01:37pulle a la victoria
01:38de Mark Coleman.
01:40Estos personajes se sienten
01:42realmente diferentes de
01:43cualquier cosa que has hecho
01:44antes.
01:45So, how was it for you to play
01:48someone like Mark, and what
01:50do you take away from him?
01:52You know, it was exciting to
01:54play this part, to play Mark
01:57Kerr. Exciting because he was a
01:59man who's alive today.
02:01Yeah.
02:01Real man, accomplished real
02:05things, had real demons in his
02:10life that he had to battle.
02:11And my takeaway, I feel like
02:15what this really allowed me to
02:18do, number one, it really
02:19allowed me to grow as an actor
02:21and challenge myself in ways
02:23that I just hadn't been
02:25challenged before, and I
02:26wanted that.
02:27I wanted to be challenged, and
02:28I wanted to really go for it.
02:31Transformation, gain 30 pounds,
02:3522 prosthetics.
02:36Yeah.
02:37So, it was a lot, but it was
02:39just the opportunity for me.
02:41And talking about the emotional
02:44and technical challenges that
02:46you face while bringing Mark
02:48to life, what can you say
02:49about that?
02:49Yeah, so the emotional
02:50challenges, there's Mark Kerr,
02:52the fighter, and at one time,
02:54he was the greatest MMA
02:56fighter in the world.
02:57Yeah.
02:58But I think more importantly
02:59than that, there's Mark Kerr,
03:01the man and the human being
03:02who struggled and battled his
03:06addictions, his overdoses.
03:09He's lucky to be alive, but he's
03:12resilient, he's sober, he's happy.
03:16He has a kid.
03:18He's human.
03:19He's human.
03:20Yeah.
03:20These are all things that everybody
03:22goes through.
03:24And he, we all, we all want to win
03:28at life and want to win things,
03:30but that's not the way life works.
03:32You know, we get knocked down
03:34and we lose, and how we deal
03:36with those losses, I think,
03:37really define us.
03:38And so, I learned so much.
03:41And also, I think that Mark
03:42is not fighting to win.
03:44He's fighting to find himself
03:46again.
03:47That's right.
03:48That's right.
03:49What do you think about that battle?
03:51I love that.
03:52You're absolutely right.
03:53Because you think, on the surface,
03:55he's just fighting to win,
03:57win the money.
03:58But then you realize, oh, no, no.
04:00Oh, you're fighting.
04:01You're fighting to understand.
04:03You're fighting to understand
04:05what it's like to love yourself.
04:07This was a huge moment for everyone.
04:11What did it mean to you
04:12in a personal or professional?
04:14Because everybody was crazy
04:17talking about your
04:19and your performance.
04:20It was pretty wild.
04:21In Venice, us debuting
04:23Smashing Machine
04:24at the Venice Film Festival
04:25was just, it was,
04:28it was an unreal experience
04:31because you never know
04:35how people are going to respond
04:38to your movie.
04:39Are they going to like it?
04:40Are they not going to like it?
04:41You never know.
04:43This was a first for me.
04:44And how people were going to respond to me
04:46in this kind of role.
04:50What it did for me is it,
04:53it told me that the decision I made
05:03of listening to the voice
05:04behind my ribcage,
05:06that I can do more.
05:07and to challenge myself,
05:09that ovation
05:10and looking at every single person's eyes,
05:13like that's another thing too.
05:14When they were like clapping,
05:18it's not a casual,
05:19you know,
05:19they're kind of looking around.
05:21They want to look at you
05:22and they want to clap
05:23and look at you
05:23and give you this energy.
05:25so that moved me so much.
05:27And I think it just told me
05:29that hey,
05:29you thank you for listening
05:31to your voice
05:32and it was the best thing
05:33you could have done.
05:33Oh,
05:36les platicaba el otro día
05:37que la primera vez que lo entreviste
05:38fue por ahí del 2004,
05:41cuando fue el rey escorpión.
05:44Ok.
05:44Y todavía me hablaba
05:45de la lucha libre,
05:46de su transición al cine.
05:48Entonces,
05:49verlo,
05:50no es lo mismo el UFC
05:51o el Pride, que no tiene nada a ver con lo que conocemos como Pride, son las peleas en Japón sin reglas prácticamente.
06:00Pero bueno, hoy es una de las industrias más grandes del espectáculo.
06:04Sí, sin duda alguna.
06:07Y una historia de este luchador, la verdad es que es bastante interesante saber cómo se repuso de toda la situación de adicciones, excesos, el peso de la fama y demás.
06:16Creo que tiene un punto ahí Dwayne Johnson para darle un giro a su carrera interesante.
06:21Le queremos a Dwayne Johnson. También le queremos...
06:25A Luca Guadañino.
06:27¿Cómo hace cosas este hombre, este director? Pero también fue una de las cintas de las que más se habló y de las que más hubo controversia en el circuito de festivales.
06:37¿Cuáles? Y cuéntamelo.
06:39Sí, se llama After the Hunt, es la película protagonizada por Julia Roberts y Andrew Garfield,
06:44que pone sobre la mesa justamente el tema del abuso sexual en una universidad, particularmente en Yale.
06:51Y lo que ocurre con el personaje de Julia y por lo que la cuestionaban en Venecia es porque, de alguna forma, sin spoiler,
06:59los personajes son sometidos a dilemas morales sobre lo que dicen o sobre lo que callan.
07:05Ok.
07:05Y a partir de ahí viene el cuestionamiento de toda la película y justo por eso la cuestionaban en Venecia
07:11y justo por eso ella defendía la historia, diciendo que esas son las preguntas que se tienen que poner sobre la mesa
07:17para ver de qué lado de la historia nos estamos identificando.
07:21Wow, wow. ¿Y qué te dijo el director?
07:23Pues, obviamente, la intención es exponer estos temas de una forma cinematográfica y, sobre todo, socialmente,
07:30para que, pues, podamos poner el punto sobre las IES de lo que está pasando con este tema
07:38que comenzó con Me Too y con todo lo que ya sabemos, pero que no tiene que dejar de ponerse
07:43sobre las mesas de cualquier industria.
07:46Vamos a ver.
07:46Ok.
07:47Hank me ha ido de casa y me hacía por la niña, pero, ya sabes, está bien.
07:51He's Hank.
07:52Everybody loves Hank.
07:55¿Qué te dijo que sucedió?
07:57He crossed the line.
07:59Pero ¿qué hacía?
08:00Este filme es sobre un profesor que enfrenta una situación difícil cuando un estudiante
08:05hace un asunto allegado.
08:08¿Por qué fue importante para ti, especialmente después de Me Too,
08:11para mostrar cómo hard it can be to speak of in places of power, como a school?
08:17I think that the idea of this very specific theater, que es Yale,
08:26you know, this scene, this scenery,
08:29carries with it the idea of how a small world can represent the greater world that we live into.
08:36And in a way, this for me, it's a sort of indication, direction, expression of the idea
08:45of the multiple possibilities of truth that lies within ourselves and how it's important
08:52to find a way to listen to the other one truth instead of trying to impose your own.
08:57Yeah, absolutely.
08:57As you said, Alma is a philosophy professor, but she still faces her own contradictions.
09:03So what does her story say about the fact that even knowledge and experience are not always
09:11enough to handle real-life ethical dilemmas?
09:17Well, I mean, if you think of Shakespeare, power corrupts everything.
09:21The quest for power might corrupt the highest minds and the most brave hearts.
09:27And I think that's the case in the case of these people.
09:31They are really fighting over power, where actually, if they were not doing that,
09:36they could find the power of listening to one another.
09:43And maybe they face the consequences of this kind of need for prevailing over the other.
09:52Yeah.
09:54So in many of your films, your characters face moments where ethics and responsibility clash
10:02with desire, fear, ambition, whatever.
10:05So what makes you want to explore these moral dilemmas?
10:08And why do you think it's important to explore them through cinema?
10:11Because it's completely cinematic, you know?
10:14Cinema allows us to really reflect on things, but through the lens of entertainment.
10:19And that's what I love.
10:20What has you surprised the most about the reaction from the audiences?
10:27I think I'm always surprised in a beautiful way by the generosity of audiences
10:35and how they really interact with movies.
10:38And also looking at your work from Call Me By Your Name, Bones and All,
10:44and now this movie, there's a clear, interesting human connection under extreme situations.
10:51What role does cinema play in your life?
10:54And why is it so important to you?
10:57I'm totally, completely and absolutely a person that think in terms of cinema, love cinema, want cinema.
11:07And for me, cinema has always taught me how to react to something that gives me a great emotion,
11:14how to find things that I didn't know about, how to change my mind, how to fall in love.
11:20Did you always want to be a filmmaker as a kid?
11:25Or when did you realize that cinema was going to be an important part of your life?
11:30Forever. I think my mother bought me a Super 8 camera when I was like eight or nine.
11:34And I started making my little mini movies.
11:37But I was so obsessive about it that I started to say in a sort of like unaware way
11:42that I wanted to be a director since I was like four or five.
11:44Yeah. And do you, do you want to make something maybe related with Mexico or Latin America?
11:53Well, I shot a movie called Queer that was a story set in a sort of like fantasy Mexico City
12:01that was at the projection of barrows in Mexico City.
12:05And of course, it would be for me a thrill to be able to come actually in Mexico City
12:12and film something there.
12:14So, like, break a leg and fingers crossed.
12:21Estamos en mi temporada favorita del año porque es cuando las películas,
12:25incluso las series con más contenido, con más carnita, llegan a nosotros, ¿no?
12:29Y de verdad, está padrísimo las películas de verano y los superhéroes.
12:34Pero aquí, aquí tenemos muchos grandes temas de conversación
12:37y seguiremos compartiéndolos con ustedes.
12:39Gracias, Iber.
12:39Gracias, un gustoso, sí.
12:40Gracias, equipo. Por aquí nos vemos pronto.
12:44Gracias.
12:45Gracias.
12:46Gracias.
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12:48Gracias.
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12:57Gracias.
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