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00:00:00we can uh i could turn it up a wee bit but i think it would just distort on youtube but um
00:00:07i don't think if you turn it up louder it'll necessarily bring more people into the room
00:00:13yes i don't want it to be if i talk a little louder some more people will will like you know
00:00:19like my post yeah we did we did do a check again i'll just do a check again just to make sure
00:00:24enough happened google have changed the software overnight though we did do a check again i'll just
00:00:32do a check again just to make sure you guys can talk so we can hear you repeat back hello hello
00:00:42google have changed the software overnight though we did do a check again i'll just do a tricky day
00:00:49estimation that's working good here from what i can see anyway uh so that's pretty good i mean
00:01:05yeah it's a round world huh yeah so much the flat earth yeah what time is it for you paul um it's
00:01:12now quarter past seven there you go well seven seven quarter past ten here right so um and you're a
00:01:20day ahead of me yeah so you're you're in sunday we're in saturday still exactly so um yeah just uh
00:01:30talk about you were talking about your alien abduction and your wife um uh how many years ago did that
00:01:37happen again lord have mercy um it was roughly about almost four years ago it's when i first started
00:01:49uh as a field investigator for move on you really want me to talk about this stuff huh paul i well no
00:01:56no you can talk you can talk about uh you can you can jump into the alien agenda topic uh something
00:02:02yeah well you know apparently the alien agenda for me was was i had a visit scheduled for whatever
00:02:09reason that that they decided to do that you know and and uh it was the the last thing i kind of
00:02:16expected um at the time i had heard a little bit about uh you know the the the ce5 stuff and
00:02:25sending out a mental thought out to our visitors right and uh i was hoping to meet you know some some
00:02:35lovely nordic ladies or you know val for would have been cool to have met you know it's like uh i was
00:02:43thinking about the italian friends case where uh you know there were there they were these interesting
00:02:49guys that uh you know sort of hunt out they would drink wine and talk cosmic uh stuff and so i started
00:02:58sending out a mental message out to the cosmos and i really uh you know i'd read quite a few ufo books
00:03:05at that point but i really wasn't an investigator into it myself so uh but i was sending this thought out
00:03:14where you know i hear a lot of people complaining they don't want to be abducted and it's this
00:03:19horrible thing and i want to be abducted come and abduct me i want to meet you you know yeah i mean
00:03:24you you can you know it's like you know i don't really want to deal with with probing or you know i'd
00:03:32prefer that it happened but uh you know please you know i want to visit you know take me take me away you
00:03:39know and uh so it it it actually kind of happened to me um and and i i don't i really wasn't expecting
00:03:50it to happen you know you send that stuff out and i kind of did it like you would meditate or you would
00:03:56pray you know and i was just sending those thoughts out and being kind of deep about it but i had just
00:04:04closed uh my first ufo case for mufon which was a mylar balloon aren't they always yeah this this was
00:04:16a mylar balloon that was out in it was near the lockheed plant but it was a mylar balloon it wasn't
00:04:21anything really all that interesting you know so uh so i had to tell the guy and he got mad at me on
00:04:28the phone and no it was a ufo it's like dude that's a star-shaped mylar balloon here here's a
00:04:34picture of you you can you can buy it this store and i i i don't i don't really i i think that i as
00:04:42the years have gone by i've learned to be a little more subtle about that but but that was my first case
00:04:50and i didn't really have any subtlety and i told him what he had seen and i gave him a photograph of
00:04:55where he could buy one for himself if he wanted to get a star-shaped mylar balloon
00:05:01so um but all the while i was still sending out my little thought my little thoughts out to et
00:05:09whoever that might be and i didn't really uh i didn't really say well i don't want to talk to
00:05:14reptilians you know yeah i prefer that the mantids didn't get this message uh no i didn't think that i
00:05:21was just kind of sending it out to the universe it's like whoever gets this i want to meet you
00:05:26yeah um so uh it was uh that week that i had become a field investigator for mufon and i was going to
00:05:36sleep uh i had recently had a hip surgery so i put my pillows up kind of high in bed and i i kind of went
00:05:44to sleep in a semi-recumbent uh position when i would go to bed at night so i i'd gotten comfortable
00:05:52and i had my pillows behind my back i was sitting up there and i was starting to get restful when i
00:05:58started uh to notice that the crickets in our house were becoming very very quiet uh we had a little
00:06:06cricket problem in our rafters it could be quite a dim really at times and you're right yes in in our
00:06:14rafters in our old house so it's like you needed a rat up there probably no it was crickets i don't
00:06:20think you would hear a rat on yeah no no you need a wreck to eat the crickets and then that's it solved
00:06:27well these these guys were living inside of the house and so maybe that's a good thing that they were
00:06:32there all right decided that they were there so but it got very very quiet um the air seemed to get
00:06:41thicker somehow and uh there was a light that started shining in our room and it wasn't coming from any
00:06:52particular point it seemed to be emanating from everything as though the room itself was becoming
00:06:59lit within itself i'm not sure if it was pervading the house or if they did something to the atoms of
00:07:09the wood and objects in our room but for whatever reason our room started lighting up with this blue
00:07:18kind of light and when i say blue it wasn't so much the color as the feeling of blue it was calming
00:07:23it was a calming bright light and uh i i i noticed that i couldn't move my feet and i couldn't move my
00:07:38fingers and i couldn't move anything after a little while this may be over the period of of 30 seconds to
00:07:48where i went from being able to move my my extremities to where i was sort of dead weight and it was very
00:07:56scary for me because i'm actually a nurse and i've taken care of quite a few quadriplegics over the years
00:08:02and the last thing i would ever want to be would be a quadriplegic but suddenly i was rendered with
00:08:08quadriplegia um so i lay there and i i wasn't screaming yet and and about by the time i would
00:08:19want to scream i couldn't scream um the room became dark again and i could see the corner of our
00:08:29near where our television was there was a corner over to the left side of our room
00:08:35it started swirling around a little bit and then it started swirling it it sort of became this this
00:08:42swirl like if you poured some milk into your coffee cup and it opened up and you couldn't hear anything
00:08:51in the room it seemed like the air was very very thick yeah and i kind of went into what i would call
00:08:59a hypnagogic state where it was between a dream state and between a waking state um it wasn't i mean
00:09:09i was not falling asleep that was the last thing i would want to do i was i was horrified i couldn't
00:09:15move my body but i was put into this different mind state and the room uh became dark and i saw the wall
00:09:24open up uh there was distance that i could see in this hole in our wall right well it was a hole that
00:09:35was maybe eight feet around and uh you could see distance now in our house there was a neighbor who
00:09:44lived like maybe 15 feet away from our house so it's not like a ufo parked next to our room no
00:09:55it was it had to have been like an interdimensional yeah that sounds very
00:10:00paranormal to the story that we're talking about last life string we had a guy called uh
00:10:06jinso who talked about uh seeing a shadow man standing right in front of him in a
00:10:11in a lobby and his friends saw it too and then it looks the shadow man was looking at them like uh
00:10:18it it thought that it could see it they could see him it or whatever and it ran down the stairs and
00:10:26went through a doorway so that was apparently where they were going to go and so they get up and look
00:10:31at each other and say did you see that yep uh we said we better go down there and do our job or whatever
00:10:37he went down to the store and they had to open the door of course because they couldn't pass through
00:10:41it and they saw this big overall vortex in there which looked into another world and it looked like
00:10:49they couldn't actually see he couldn't actually see anything in it it was like really pitch black
00:10:53but he could see outlines of trees and stuff like that so maybe it's the same sort of thing with the
00:10:58aliens as well or maybe it was an alien same sort of thing or it could be some new technology where
00:11:06they've sort of got invisibility technology uh where some people can still see them uh maybe they've
00:11:12got the right chemical mindset in the brain and it ran through the portal which is like a star gate
00:11:18into you know maybe across to a planet even you know or or another place in on earth like into a
00:11:26underground base or whatever so you never know so maybe your experience is related to his experience
00:11:32so it's shame he's not on because he could probably talk about it with you yeah maybe but uh rather
00:11:38rather than having a ufo rather than having a ufo come down and merge with the house maybe it's like
00:11:43this portal that opens up and connects into the other world and they can bring in as many people as they
00:11:48like or take as many people as they like into the same portal but anyway i'll let you carry on
00:11:54yeah so so so the person down inside here said um hang on hang on person down the side here said
00:12:03he doesn't think they're gray now what color were these um let's see one one life man has said don't
00:12:10think they have gray skin i think it's green like a reptilian the gray color isn't as a suit well that's
00:12:16really possible so so what did you see um carry on well i'll just tell you i'm just going to tell you what i
00:12:23saw yeah we can talk about what i think about it later okay i'll just tell you continue telling
00:12:29you what i what i experienced what i saw right so i could not move um the the wall was open about
00:12:37seven or eight feet worth of of distance and i could just see light in the background and it just seemed
00:12:44like uh distance there was a tall creature that was standing like a human humanoid that was standing in
00:12:53in the portal that just stood there like a watcher and i had um four gray near proverbial gray aliens
00:13:03or about four three to three and a half to four feet tall that slid up to my bed uh they didn't walk
00:13:11to my bed they didn't move their legs they just uh either it was almost like they uh were on ice skates
00:13:18or something it was just very smooth and they came up to where i was and uh they connected tubes to my
00:13:25arms and to my legs it was to my extremities and uh they were taking blood or or it felt like energy as
00:13:34well um i felt like uh they stood there and they took some uh some vital thing from me right and uh but but i
00:13:45when it was happening i believed it was my blood that's what i still kind of believe what it was
00:13:52um and i didn't get a calming message they just stood there with their black uh shiny eyes uh
00:14:01and and the strange thing is is that you know you when i say that i was in a hypnagogic state
00:14:08i couldn't really see the colors of things it was black and white it was it was like in a dark room
00:14:14now there was there was light coming from the hole on the wall but but our room it wasn't lit up
00:14:20anymore it was lit up before this happened and uh i was horrified and i was i was thinking thoughts
00:14:29at them you know i figured at this point well it worked yeah you know so i guess they could hear me
00:14:36and it's just like what are you doing to be in stock are you you know who are you and what are you
00:14:43and and there was just nothing coming back i didn't get any message at all um they just stared at me and
00:14:51they took my blood and my energy i believe is what they were taking as well um it took maybe about five
00:14:59minutes altogether where i was just you know time it could have been five minutes it could have been
00:15:0815 minutes i just know that i was struggling with them but i couldn't struggle with my body that my body
00:15:14i could not move the only way i could protest was in my own mind and at certain points i was wondering
00:15:21if they could even hear that yeah so i was sort of uh recumbent there on the bed and not able to do
00:15:29anything to protect myself or to stop what was going on um anyhow the the tubes disengaged from me and
00:15:38they kind of i remember them just like pulling away almost like they were you know being reeled back
00:15:44somehow and the the four entities that were around my bed there were three on one side and there was
00:15:52one to my right side um that they went backwards so they slid back out through the wall the same way
00:16:00that they came in the whole time the tall guy that was standing there was still standing there you know
00:16:07it was like he didn't really move he was a sentinel i i guess he was watching or you know i i don't even
00:16:13know why he was there because there's nothing i could do about anything the uh the wall swirled again
00:16:21and it closed up uh the room started lighting up again it was bright um you still couldn't hear
00:16:28crickets but the room was glowing again with the the glow that it had originally and uh
00:16:36um when i was finally able to move i i shook my wife and i kept shaking her and she was out she was
00:16:45it was like shaking a a dead person or somebody that was under you know some you know anesthesia of some
00:16:53kind uh when i finally woke woke her she was really really angry and her i remember that what she what she
00:17:03said was was oh my god earl is this what i have to look forward to what are oh my god you've gone insane
00:17:10this whole ufo thing you know and uh and and i really didn't know what to say
00:17:17and and i screamed when i when i was able to i i'm still amazed that neighbors didn't come to the
00:17:23come to the door or that they didn't call the the authorities or or something but uh but anyway that that
00:17:31was the first that that was the first and only encounter that i've ever had with our little
00:17:36short gray black-eyed buddies you know uh they weren't very friendly they seemed very robotic to me
00:17:45um now that same week now there was two days later i was asleep and my wife started shaking me
00:17:54and and our room was lit up again and it was lit from within uh there there was no light in our room
00:18:02there was there was no object that was lighting our room up it was just lighting by itself like
00:18:09like the the molecules of of everything had suddenly been hit with photon photons of their own somehow yeah
00:18:18and she was shaking me and she said earl you need to tell your little friends to leave us the f you know
00:18:24she used the f word she said leave us the f alone yeah you know i already have insomnia as it is
00:18:32yeah that was the second night two nights after that we both woke up and again our room was lit up with
00:18:40light um i this time i ran to the window and i could see that that there was light coming from a
00:18:47above our house there you couldn't hear a helicopter there was no sound the crickets were perfectly quiet
00:18:54again you know um which which didn't happen uh very often so it was a weird week you know it's so
00:19:04you know here here's your you know caveat m tour if you you're going to become a ufo investigator
00:19:09you just might uh get get a little visit yeah
00:19:16oh so and that's all i that that's it you know there's nothing more to the story i mean i i don't
00:19:21think there's anything else to remember uh i i really don't need to to be hypnotically regressed
00:19:27because i remember the whole thing i was awake for it you know it was very strange it was out of the
00:19:33blue and i've never experienced anything like that again um but you know when i hear people's crazy
00:19:40stories i listen yeah i listen you know and i might not have if i hadn't gone through that myself
00:19:49but i did go through that myself so when i hear somebody's crazy story about you know they they have
00:19:55some entity comes and visits them and has a cow over their head or you know whatever uh or they were
00:20:02levitated into a craft i i know that it's possible because i never would have believed that this could
00:20:09have happened i you know i went to find out about ufos i thought that it was going to be like you know
00:20:15i was going to be hearing stories and and if i was lucky maybe i would see a cool photograph or something
00:20:22had no idea that i would be you know become part of the phenomenon yeah but you know it's like
00:20:31disturbing the cosmos you're in the cosmos you nudge it a little bit it might nudge you back of course
00:20:38you're not the only reform investigator to see a alien gray i'm not sure if you know about your your
00:20:46psychic chase from move on chase klotsky saw saw gray yes yes she was on an investigation at the time to
00:20:56see a crop circle or a or ufos in the sky yeah so you um yeah you know her story you want to tell
00:21:05a story or shall i tell i i've i've heard about it you can you can tell it it's ryan uh ryan sprague
00:21:10wrote about it in his somewhere uh somewhere in the skies uh book yeah all right that's where it was
00:21:16published yeah yeah i thought she went going to sell the story though she she kept saying that
00:21:22history channel on a martin willis show she they asked her if um she would sell the story to him
00:21:29or do an episode oh really yeah have you not watched the button willis interview
00:21:34i i don't know i'm i'm on there on tuesday but i didn't hear that i should really post a link to it uh
00:21:40it's on discord somewhere uh let's see sure i'd like to i'd like to see that i'd like to hear
00:21:46let's see i'll find it on this thing here uh this is what's good on discord if you join the discord
00:21:51group we've got lots of little nice things in there for people to watch and uh we got a collection of
00:21:58people that have actually seen these ufos and uh up close not just lights in the sky this real stuff
00:22:06unfortunately uh yeah lights in the sky are boring man yeah i'll just find the link for it uh just
00:22:14loading it now i think i mean they're not boring if you see them yourself but i always get pictures
00:22:21of lights in the sky and it's kind of like well yeah you know i can't do anything with that it could
00:22:26be jupiter or saturn or a spaceship from zeta reticuli you know chase from nephon i'll just post a
00:22:34link in the side now for anyone that wants to look at it uh well chase is a director of of
00:22:41investigations for mufon yeah so i actually you know i i kind of go by what she uh you know has
00:22:50us doing so you obviously do monthly meetings with her how do you do that do do it over skype or something
00:22:58you know chase is cool she's kind of hands off mostly she she lets us do it the way that we do
00:23:07it ourselves you know everybody has their own style at mufon uh you you kind of have to find your
00:23:14own style as far as as as your investigations of of ufos go and and uh our visitors go uh and we have
00:23:22certain precepts that were set by by both jl and hynek as well as jock valet yeah we we use uh you know
00:23:32hynek's uh you know ce123 uh classifications we use jock valet's classifications as far as you know
00:23:43whether a ufo affected you psychologically or if a ufo is was you know just seen eye of you know line
00:23:53of sight or uh you know we definitely go by we stand on the shoulders of giants more or less and that's
00:24:02the way that you're supposed to do it you know i mean you have to remember that mufon's creed is is
00:24:08the the the scientific investigation of ufos for you know the benefit of of humanity and uh and and
00:24:19i think that you know there is a benefit for humanity beyond just things like finding out about zero point
00:24:25energy or whatever might make technology better for us that uh i think that finding out about our
00:24:34visitors and and taking them into our taking the visits that people experience and and the way
00:24:41that affects people and the way it affects you personally is sort of furthering human evolution
00:24:48i think i i think that if anything the alien agenda may be to uh bring us to a different level where perhaps
00:24:57we are closer to their level yeah uh i think that uh they're they're further evolved than we are
00:25:06they've been around a long time now they may have lost some of the things that we hold dear that we
00:25:12consider humanity and maybe they're trying to get some of those things back uh i i hear from a lot of
00:25:19people that that uh in in their encounters with our extraterrestrials that the the the ets are are
00:25:27are still surprised by our emotions and by love or even by hatred you know uh by our strong strong
00:25:35emotions that may perhaps that's something that they gave up in order to live longer and to be able
00:25:41to travel the cosmos and and do the things that they do but uh you know i think that what's the what's
00:25:50happening on earth is probably actually an exchange of things that they they want something from us and
00:25:58i think that we probably want some things from them as well you know and and hopefully it'll work out
00:26:05and hopefully there's not in you know it's it's not independence day at any point right yeah you know
00:26:11so did you uh actually believe uh in ufos or you uh before you started move on and all this experience
00:26:18or were you just interested you know i was interested all my life i've been obsessed with
00:26:25with extraterrestrials and extraterrestrial life the the earliest memories i have are of you know drawing
00:26:33control panels on you know with crayons and and and taping them to my wall so i could play spaceship
00:26:41you know i mean that's you know four years old yeah or you know i i remember you know my dad built a
00:26:48wooden swing set in our backyard that had monkey bars and there was some wood that was left over and i i
00:26:55hammered some of that wood together into a little rocket ship and i did my best to paint little controls on
00:27:02that and i begged my dad to to carry that up to the top of the swing set yeah and i mean the memory
00:27:09is so sharp in my mind i i remember my mom looking at me through the kitchen window going earl who are
00:27:16you waving at who are you talking to out there i said oh the space people mom you know i'm waving at
00:27:21the space people so apparently this has been a thing it's been uh it's it's kind of always been
00:27:28there and something i've been interested in no no matter where i was in my life you know i i had a
00:27:34little period of my life where where i was uh you know i i i started reading the bible and i became
00:27:41very religious but what books were my favorite books it was c.s lewis's space trilogy for goodness
00:27:48sake you know i i was obsessed with uh the space trilogy uh so it's always been there uh no matter what
00:27:56you know permutations i put myself through uh it's it's always been there um what led me to become
00:28:05a ufo investigator myself was really i i i noticed that i was getting a little older you know
00:28:15if i was gonna do it i had better do it you know yeah and and uh i i saw a hater one show
00:28:23on tv and i started watching it and uh i started uh and and i'd been reading books about the phenomena
00:28:30you know i i'd read uh oh uh you know i'd read valet i i knew i had read chariot of the god chariots
00:28:39of the gods when i was a kid uh i remember reading uh some of the uh some of the the contacty stuff
00:28:48that that was popular back in the late 50s out out in the joshua tree area yeah uh some of the stuff
00:28:55that came from that but uh you know i mean i i know you know my mom's story paul i was kind of raised
00:29:03with with some of the knowledge that that we weren't alone yeah because my my mom knew that in in her work
00:29:11with uh hughes aircraft back in the 1950s yeah so i didn't know that down the side here uh for
00:29:21newcomers here uh that probably haven't heard hello newcomers i don't know i knew there was something
00:29:28there you know i knew there was something there and i i guess that i really just felt like it was the
00:29:33time for me to start investigating it for myself i had read it everything that i could read about it
00:29:40and i wasn't satisfied i didn't know if it was a real thing yet i did not have any personal
00:29:46experiences with it i just had other people's stories so um i i guess that was the defining factor for
00:29:54myself is that i wanted to know personally and i feel like i do know i mean it's a very real
00:30:02phenomenon i mean it's not not just a made-up thing people are seeing ufos are being visited
00:30:10i i believe it's been going on for a long long time yeah
00:30:16uh i'm just multitasking here at the moment i'm not sure there's any christians anyone wants to ask you
00:30:21but um probably i'll sum up um chase's story of meeting seeing alien grace so to me you know when
00:30:30you hear all these uh credible people out there that's seen thing for real it kind of adds up that
00:30:37it must be actually a real thing that's happening and not people's wacky you know tin forehead stuff
00:30:42happening so basically she got this uh ufo mufon case i'm not sure what the number was but this guy
00:30:49was talking to a farmer i think it was was talking about seeing these ufos in the sky and leaving
00:30:55crop circles so she went out there to investigate and she had all the technology with her and they
00:31:01went out we're walking out to the middle of one of these crop circles or fields or i suppose it was
00:31:06corn or something like that and suddenly they look up and see a tr3b uh heading towards them a
00:31:14mother ship i suppose very big and uh her camera stopped working all the all the batteries died
00:31:20she said and she couldn't film it and uh that's that's a thing yeah well it's an emp you know it'll
00:31:28drain your phone but then maybe they maybe they sent out that on purpose to make sure no one was
00:31:33filming it as it was coming close to him yeah it's it's feasible you know deniability anyway i think
00:31:39um visitors want that i think she said to the other guys well we'll head back to the car get another
00:31:45camera or something like that i'm not sure exactly what happened but they all got scared of this thing
00:31:48approaching them and so they were running through the corner field and suddenly the guy in the front
00:31:52stopped and she slammed into the back of him and there is a alien grace and right in front of him in the
00:31:59field and of course the smoking gun evidence of all time and none of her cameras is working you know
00:32:06it's not like you see on these tv shows where they've got headsets on its film and everything as
00:32:10they're doing it so unfortunately all that evidence was lost um which would have been the best ever she
00:32:16would have sold that for millions or move on would have been millionaires i'd say with that oh yeah
00:32:21yeah you know and you don't think of reaching for your phone though when you see something that that's
00:32:26that's uh and and that is a part of the phenomenon yeah i i i believe that uh well now you have to think
00:32:34that we you know we have animal sanctuaries where we go and we we tranquilize certain beasts and we we
00:32:44you know try to keep them healthy and and and and we do our you know our stuff there and uh we but we
00:32:52want them to live as though it's their natural habitat right we don't want them to think that we're
00:32:58coming down in helicopters or jeeps or whatever it is tranquilizing them doing medical procedures and
00:33:04then then leaving them we we just want them to forget about that we want to see what animals
00:33:10act like in their natural habitat so i imagine that our visitors are kind of doing the same thing with
00:33:16us they're for whatever reason they're interested with humanity they're interested in our society
00:33:21they're interested in our emotions and how we deal with each other and and uh they they don't want us
00:33:28to be obsessed like you and i are about them we're we're the odd people out because we do think about
00:33:35this a lot yes but i i don't think that that's really the reaction that they want yeah you know
00:33:41they want to see how we react you know in our natural habitat and and if we know that we're being
00:33:48tranquilized and having procedures done on us and else what uh kind of ruins the whole effect of the
00:33:56matter you know so you got to figure that that must be that that's the way i think about it anyway i could be
00:34:03wrong but you know that that's kind of what i tell myself so i'll just go through some of the side
00:34:09chatters here um see what we got here i shake my wife too does doesn't do any good
00:34:20no it doesn't if they're out they're out you know but next time i was out and she was shaking me
00:34:27you know i was yeah i was kind of useless in that situation okay next one is crazy stories could be
00:34:32true but selling the truth is like teaching math to a flat earther yeah that's true i don't know yeah
00:34:42you know when you start i mean i don't really have anything to prove the only reason why i told you
00:34:46guys is because paul asked me to tell you my story you know and and and if i if i said that it didn't
00:34:54happen i would be a liar yeah for a long time i didn't talk about it and i i had told my state
00:34:59director about it and i told peter robbins about it those were the two people that knew yeah
00:35:04uh you know and and i didn't tell anybody anybody about my story until maybe a year ago and i started
00:35:11hinting to paul about it i started hinting to a couple other friends about it um but but you know
00:35:19now i work for the experience of research team at MUFON and i hear a lot of stories that are similar to
00:35:25my own and and some of them are more more outlandish you know i mean there's some crazy stories
00:35:31yeah um i mean i think that our visitors use screen memories they these things to make people feel more
00:35:36comfortable or less comfortable sometimes you know yeah i think there's some people who are too
00:35:42comfortable with their visits and so they try to make it less comfortable yeah um and and uh yeah i
00:35:49really i mean i only have stuff to lose here to telling my crazy yeah daytime i know my state
00:35:55director hates hates me talking about the story he hates it you know i love it yeah i love your story
00:36:03you know i mean i can i can tell you ufo stories till the sun comes down yeah because you know i've closed
00:36:08400 of them so far really really but you know but this is my own story and that's what paul wanted me to
00:36:16tell you yeah so that's that's the only reason why i brought it that's another reason why people don't
00:36:21tell the stories that they experience because they've got a daytime job and they know they think
00:36:26they're crazy and they can lose their position especially if they're in a police job or a government
00:36:31job where they're meant to be of sound mind obviously they own the fbi i mentioned sure fbi people
00:36:37getting abducted and they can't tell the story because you know because it affects their position you know if
00:36:44you work for homeland security or something like that you can't tell your story with your name or
00:36:49your face with it you simply can't you know it could destroy your career okay with me you know i i mean
00:36:56i i feel pretty comfortable in my career and you know everybody knows i'm i'm a really good nurse and
00:37:03my friends love me and so people you know know that i'm not apt to uh have you know psychological
00:37:12breakdowns of any sort so so that's that's why i feel comfortable telling you guys that
00:37:18yeah or you can just deny it and say well just tell them the story and then people don't know if
00:37:23it's true or not well you can say you can say it was it could have been a you could say it could
00:37:28have been a dream but that's uh yeah it's an interesting story you know i mean i i wasn't on any
00:37:33psychotropic drug i wasn't drinking too much i think i might have had a beer that night yeah
00:37:37you know that that was probably about it it was just a normal night like any night yeah there's
00:37:43nothing out of the ordinary about it no you know i closed a ufo case that was a mylar balloon
00:37:51sighting yeah right yeah and what what type of balloon was it it was a star-shaped mylar balloon
00:38:00okay a gold shaped a gold colored star-shaped uh party balloon should we look up that old case
00:38:07probably i know i could find it for you if you really want but i'm probably i'm probably gonna
00:38:14have to rejoin you on my ipad because i'm noticing that my phone is is getting kind of low on charge
00:38:20here so you might want to talk with uh talk about okay you can just you can just drop off there and just
00:38:27the camera icon and you'll be straight on again okay cool i think this is a good point probably
00:38:33for me to go because i got three percent okay charge yeah we started at like 60 charge i don't know
00:38:40why my phone you know wi-fi takes a lot of power i think i guess so all right i'll be right back with you
00:38:47okay okay okay okay who have we got on any got you here john um are you enjoying the show so far
00:39:02there's five watching you've got 14 likes yeah i know it's going crazy um right people coming and going
00:39:11maybe uh or some troll counts like liking it for us but um yeah it's pretty interesting so far isn't
00:39:18it we're getting some more uh answers that we didn't have here before on other live streams
00:39:24uh lucky he was reluctant to tell the story initially as he said and um
00:39:30yeah he's opening up a wee bit more now uh according to this is seven watching and on the main
00:39:36channel it only just updated it said nine i think it says nine over there so it's going up and down
00:39:42between four watching to nine watching so it will be with us in a minute again where he changes devices
00:39:48with power it's almost like um i would just wonder now he's on maybe they're sucking these batteries dry
00:39:55as well you know that if it's paranormal in a sense uh it could affect the batteries and the devices
00:40:00that's why i'm always hardwired here i'm always on power and i'm always on a uh a non-wi-fi system
00:40:09where i've got a cable going straight to everything so nothing can be interfered wirelessly anyway radio
00:40:15frequency so we got um who we got in the chat here we got um renee with us who else is out there one
00:40:23life man still with us uh whoever else you got vern vern you should be on voice man
00:40:30this is your day this is a day to talk to a a real move on investigator who's had some crazy
00:40:38experiences like these guys so get on there um this he doesn't often come on because he's a busy guy
00:40:46uh philip snyder was a military war hero uh but it wasn't a wee bit of a whack job that one
00:40:53uh that's the one that hung himself with so-called rubber pipes which was quite a strange because they
00:41:00only had three fingers on one hand and i think he had an arm missing didn't he as well did he have an arm
00:41:05missing i can't remember it's pretty messed up yeah phil snyder you know the one i'm talking about
00:41:11talked about underground bases that they were building underground out in the desert there with
00:41:16a special um drill bits that use uh like a fusion reactor or something like that that sort of melted
00:41:24the rock that was dulcie yeah and then they they've naturally buried uh broke into a underground cave
00:41:34and alien war started out where they're starting to shoot at each other have we got earl back on with us here
00:41:41i heard something i thought i heard something oh yeah here he is i'll just switch it back to him
00:41:48there you go uh he was on hello are you there
00:41:59i'm getting a picture now are we no hold on i'm having trouble here i don't know why
00:42:04i don't know why either you've got the icon up and voice but no video are you you took click the
00:42:11video button here hold on let me see let me see what's going on with the video
00:42:16yes it should be up we're getting a black black screen here uh gray screen hold on okay i think you
00:42:23got the wrong camera you got to switch cameras hold on hold on you got the front uh you got the back
00:42:29camera not the front camera all right hold on i'm going around here we go oh there we go
00:42:36so for your vertical guy uh is that always portrait let's see does it fit on hello there
00:42:43oh that'll do that would be all right just keep it like that good good yeah so where were we uh we
00:42:48were talking about um phil snyder because renee brought his name up so do you know phil snyder
00:42:55yeah i know the story i don't know him he's he's gone now he's not with us anymore yeah that's right
00:43:04uh he apparently committed suicide you're talking about the dulce thing right yeah
00:43:11yeah yeah uh you know i i don't know what i i don't know enough i i honestly don't know how i feel
00:43:19about that story i've heard it i think it's an interesting story it could be real yeah it could very
00:43:24well be real but but i've i've heard pros and cons on it yeah um but i mean you have to admit the guy
00:43:33was hurt by something that's for sure yeah uh he had some damage done to himself
00:43:41alien ray gun or something i i don't know the thing that got me was his suicide uh it's kind of
00:43:47strange suicide where he hung himself with a tube or something and uh yeah which is a really strange
00:43:56thing you know to do and he only had like three three fingers on one hand or something i know about
00:44:02that well i know that he lost fingers and i know that that he had been hurt in his abdomen as well
00:44:08correct yeah he he said that he was shot by a alien ray gun more or less oh you're breaking up a bit
00:44:18there uh or you're turning robotic for some reason uh oh are we okay now yeah hello it could be paul's
00:44:28laptop doing that i don't think so it's all good here uh we're sitting at 75 sure we're sitting at 75 cpu at the
00:44:37moment which is good um yes i think myself i i i think you're a wee bit louder too for some reason
00:44:46the same as it usually is i think you're a wee bit louder but it doesn't really matter too much um
00:44:52so yeah um we're that's really sort of lost our way um what was the last thing you're talking about
00:44:57uh yeah well we i just kind of talked about my own experience and this yeah that now in my life
00:45:05the last four years of my life where i've just thrown myself at the phenomenon and and really
00:45:13every waking moment you know it is is i i'm always thinking about it and i'm always trying to to figure
00:45:20out what it's all about what the phenomenon means to us um that that i i experience beautiful
00:45:29synchronicities in my life that are like magic i mean i'll be thinking about something or i'll be
00:45:36i'll have a case that that has to do with some crazy i'm trying to think of it of an example
00:45:44but but you know i just you know a synchronicity carl young the way that he described synchronicity
00:45:51was was that it's a meaningful a coincidence a meaningful coincidence and uh the the meaningful
00:46:00coincidence that he always brought up was was that he was having a session with a woman you know as as
00:46:07he was a psychologist where she was talking about this dream that she had of the scarab beetle
00:46:14and that it had these you know sort of iridescent wings on it and uh that she saw this beetle that
00:46:22that was walking on the table and while she was telling her story to him he was hearing this strange
00:46:30battering at the window and it was like bam bam bam and it was it was interrupting their session so he
00:46:37excused himself he opened up the window and a scarab beetle flew into the room and it landed on the table
00:46:46now that's a meaningful coincidence and that's a synchronicity yeah and i i experienced that in in my
00:46:53life and i i believe you know before i was engaging with a phenomena uh i didn't experience synchronicities
00:47:01like that you know i once in a while i would have something you know that i couldn't understand
00:47:07that would happen in my life but um it wasn't like a train or or a pattern of of those instances of
00:47:14synchronicities and and they they happen now they happen every single day it's to the point where
00:47:20you know it's it's not common to where i just like oh you know another miracle yeah
00:47:28but but you know it it's definitely a thing and i think that that's from the phenomena as well so i
00:47:34don't think that it's a malevolent phenomenon yeah um you know if if somebody told me this once they
00:47:42they said that if you took if you take your pet to the veterinarian to have shots or a surgery or
00:47:48whatever uh your your dog or your cat is gonna they they hate the vet you know it's like this horror
00:47:55show to them yeah they don't understand it just seems like this something that's helping them
00:48:00so maybe we just don't understand you know maybe it's just beyond our conception to understand what
00:48:07they are doing with us and to us and with us you know um and i i i think about that a lot
00:48:18so uh is there any crazy stories you've heard while doing uh ducty cases that you can tell
00:48:25well i hear them all the time and you know i i'm always getting good cases you know i sort of had
00:48:32a proverbial one the other day where uh you know a woman when she was four years old she was playing
00:48:41with a little spider on her screen window and her grandfather was asleep you know next to her she was
00:48:48staying with her grandma her grandpa and she was kind of sleeping in their room and and she saw a full
00:48:54on uh flying saucer uh she said that the bottom of it was pitch black and it had red and blue lights
00:49:03that were running around the sides of it and uh and that was the first time that she had had an
00:49:11experience later on she and her sister uh they were looking out the window it was a couple of years later
00:49:18so they were still very young but this time there was a second witness uh and they saw an object in
00:49:25the sky and it got brighter and brighter and then their room flooded with light and there was missing
00:49:31time and the two sisters remember this and it happened back in 1964 for goodness sake it was a long
00:49:38long time before my time but yeah you know well i was young too i was born in 1958 so i was six years
00:49:46old at the time uh i think she she was about the same age as myself um that that was a good story and
00:49:54and this woman uh again you know it's like when you have that encounter it it it it grabs you and you
00:50:01have that interest uh yeah the rest of your life and she you know here she is she's kind of my age and
00:50:09she's just trying to make sense of it um you know i hear stories like that every single day i i talk
00:50:16with people who who think that uh it's the most horrible thing in the world what's happening to
00:50:22them and they wish they could make it stop right um i you know i i've talked with people who wish that
00:50:29they could strangle their aliens or shoot their aliens you know um and then i talk with people where it's
00:50:37their angels and they feel like you know how could i live without my visitor you know my visitors
00:50:44and and that it's this meaningful thing so i you know i don't know i i still don't understand the
00:50:50phenomenon completely myself i i feel like different things are going on i i don't think that it's all
00:50:57just one thing i think people are having different experiences that we have different visitors
00:51:03and different people are having different experiences for whatever reason i was hoping
00:51:09was going to come on tell his strange story but apparently he was being chased by this cop because
00:51:15he was speeding down the highway and suddenly this light coming from the sky and it shined a light onto
00:51:21the car and it stopped dead the the cop car just stopped dead and uh he was seeing this in this rear view
00:51:28mirror and he kept on going so he said it's almost like the aliens are sort of protecting them for some
00:51:34reason and uh yeah really i wish they'd do that for me i got a ticket a couple months ago did you
00:51:43so you have to go to a driving school and all that over there don't you and lose a strike on your
00:51:48license and all sorts of crazy stuff over there i did traffic school oh no
00:51:53yeah it's just you know it's a dent in your insurance if you don't do that right so you
00:52:01kind of have to do it but may i may ask how much you're speeding by
00:52:08uh it's like oh how how much i wasn't speeding that that much at all but apparently it's a dangerous
00:52:14corner now i know it's a dangerous corner i didn't know that at the time all right i think it was only
00:52:19like like six or seven miles above the speed limit but right you know there was a crosswalk and and the
00:52:26guy stopped me they they actually had a crossing guard that was killed there right that was hit by a
00:52:33car so that's the you know why they they watch that yeah yeah yeah you know that that intersection
00:52:40that's what you're going to say yeah i mean everybody gets tickets you know if you drive you're
00:52:44eventually going to get there wasn't where that it wasn't where that plane crashed crashed a few
00:52:48months back was it uh world war ii playing world war ii um german plane crashed there wasn't on that
00:52:56same highway oh no no no no no no no la is sprawling if you ever come here you know people think of los
00:53:05angeles as a city but it's like a state in itself i mean you're talking you know los angeles county is
00:53:11it's it's got to be like 300 well 200 square miles probably yeah you know from the from the southern
00:53:21coast to you know central california it's it's uh it's it's sprawling yeah yeah i mean that's why you
00:53:28have to you kind of have to drive here or else you have to have aliens that take you you know yeah
00:53:34places yeah i'm just kidding well we need the technology don't we so we can get rid of the cars
00:53:39yeah well star trek would work pretty good you know transporter room would be a good thing well
00:53:46yeah we need to get humans off one planet maybe that's that's probably part of the gender oh i'm
00:53:53all for that i wonder if there's sort of really like you know how many people go missing every year
00:53:57it's almost like uh there could be a gender where they're sort of putting people on another planet to
00:54:03start what if they are yeah i've thought about that before what if they are populating another
00:54:08planet maybe they are that's kind of how australia started right yeah you know they might know there's
00:54:16a big asteroid in towards us and it's going to be there in another hundred years or whatever you know
00:54:21and they can i'm sure that if they can get here they can probably divert an asteroid i don't i don't
00:54:26think there's possible you know it would have to be something like if our sun was going to go nova or
00:54:32something like that yeah i was just making a terrible idea up there though yeah they might know when
00:54:38when a star explodes so um so yeah we don't really understand that we think we do yeah but we're
00:54:44surprised all the time in astronomy seeing us you know a star will will suddenly start becoming unstable so
00:54:52we don't know i mean i i honest to god i don't think that it's a malignant thing that we're being
00:55:00visited because they've been here a long time and and well you know i i have a horror story of my own
00:55:08that's just my own conception of it it's very subjective as far as you know um my feelings about it i mean to
00:55:17me it was really scary but but but honestly i mean nobody really gave me a written guarantee that i was
00:55:25going to get a calming message if i you know if aliens came and if they wanted to take my dna and
00:55:32blood or whatever you know it's you know how do i know that that's a bad thing maybe maybe they need
00:55:38to give me transfusions at some point you know and you know at some point i i i don't know i suppose
00:55:45if you believe in a soul right and the body quits after 100 years or less if you're lucky to live for
00:55:52100 years that they could use your dna to create a clone of your body where your soul transfers back
00:55:58into it because i've heard the stories of people i mean i don't know i don't know i just we're just
00:56:05we're just talking agendas here but uh obviously uh they've cloned dogs and people said the dogs you
00:56:11know cloned their dogs after the diet and they say the dog has the same personality exactly like the
00:56:17dog that used to be that dna wow so maybe there's a connection there yeah um so we've probably got a
00:56:25lot to experiment with there but also maybe yeah what else was going to say oh how long do you think
00:56:32the aliens have been on earth you know yeah john was going to say something yeah yeah i was i was
00:56:43trying to hear yes carry on john yeah they've been here for millennia well where's the proof
00:56:49well well here in arizona alone around phoenix you look at the uh at the uh
00:57:01i get to figure out what that sound was yeah but uh yeah uh the peoples that used to inhabit this region
00:57:13you know 10 000 years ago they've got all kinds of uh stuff that they uh put on the rocks and show
00:57:20the aliens and their craft and portals all his craft you know 10 000 years ago but from what i've
00:57:28read online with dr jacobs really he reckons that abductions really only started in the 1960s with
00:57:36betty and bernie hill being the first one from what i understood from
00:57:39and stuff i read that he posted about so but have you heard of there's alien abductions in the bible
00:57:46yeah i mean there's there's abductions in the bible where you know paul was taken up in in in uh what
00:57:55was it i think in the first chapter or second chapter of acts in the new testament where he was taken up into
00:58:02heaven and and uh given a vision and but he was taken into the sky and and there there's there's a million
00:58:11stories in antiquity where people are taken up in chariots uh it's not a new thing uh people have been
00:58:21abducted through millennia i i think as well i don't think it's anything i think that uh i i you know i mean
00:58:28there's that meme out there where you know 1947 we blew up you know the the atomic bomb and
00:58:36we we we suddenly garnered their attention and and and boom there they were yeah um i i don't think
00:58:43that's correct i think that uh that they've been here a long long time i think you know if you look
00:58:49in sanskrit in indian uh for the stories from india 5 000 years ago they talk about uh these creatures
00:58:58coming down from the sky and vayama they call them and these these these uh elaborate flying machines
00:59:06and it even talks about a nuclear war between two different bases of two different yeah sects of
00:59:12beings right yeah you know and and and they've they've checked the uh the soil in those areas
00:59:18and there's uh there's radioactive isotopes i've actually debunked this you have well yeah i i know
00:59:27people that lived there for their entire lives and i i i actually i know that that during the the second
00:59:33world war germans were actually coming over they were on assignment to find out about it you know so
00:59:40so i don't know i don't know if you've actually debunked it all you you know maybe you did well
00:59:45someone but i some expert debunked it uh it was a made-up story apparently but uh he's he's tricked
00:59:51it back in the ancient books and said the story originates from one source so yeah and and the
00:59:57radiation is no hide in background radiation apparently and yeah i can't remember what episode it was on
01:00:04but i did uh cover it uh indian uh indian summit or i called it or something like that well i don't
01:00:11know you did have to talk with with the people i work for at work you know i work for indian family
01:00:16and they were from that in that region and they say that uh that it's a thing so so i don't know i don't
01:00:23live there but well you gotta remember you gotta remember it can be and it's in sanskrit you know i mean
01:00:28the stories themselves apparently it's not if you want yeah apparently yeah uh it's the way you
01:00:35you interpret it apparently but um yeah sure it's like the zekio's wheel it's the same thing what's
01:00:43happening here yeah apparently it's um you know nuclear has a half-life you know and if it happened um
01:00:51um um then you got to work on half half-life or stuff now what's happened here cancel okay i was
01:00:59trying to find india did it search india once here um nope hang up india india is that that's right
01:01:10let me just zoom in i think it was called india or something like that it's india atomic bomb it is
01:01:19india let's see let's see i'm just trying to see if i'm gonna find it
01:01:28but yeah yes you've seen some of my stuff that i do yeah ain't got time to watch it obviously
01:01:33everybody complains that they're too long and there's lots of information on them and uh
01:01:38but yeah i did i remember that one i didn't hear people don't like information anymore you know
01:01:43uh that's why it's unfortunate that's why you don't need to fake anything because it's just so
01:01:49much information out there that you can talk about and uh theories and you can just talk about it you
01:01:55know and just get everywhere but well let's talk about australia i mean they've i've i've been there
01:02:01and i've looked at cave pains and petroglyphs that are 40 000 years old that they have you know they talk
01:02:09about lightning man who came down from the sky and and brought agriculture and and uh civilization to
01:02:17them yeah and uh you know that that's definitely a thing there's every single culture seems to have
01:02:25the same story what do you make of that is it a coincidence i mean native indians in america
01:02:32yeah native americans it's the same thing it's the sky people every single culture they have the
01:02:39stories about people coming down from the sky bringing them fire bringing them language bringing
01:02:45them civilization and uh you know where does that come from you know i don't know that that's a
01:02:52coincidence i think that's a thing yeah let me see if it would be a coincidence if if you found it
01:02:59maybe in you know one or two or three cultures but when you look at every single culture on earth and
01:03:06they all have sky people coming down from the heavens that that bring them uh civilization you have to
01:03:11figure that there must be something to that that's the way it i take it anyway that's it yeah minus
01:03:21i'm not sure that's how you spell it
01:03:22i always say that word wrong yeah
01:03:31uh these things here there you go flying temples
01:03:36there that's where they they they all say that their temples came from uh they they were copying what
01:03:44they were seeing it's it's you know proverbial uh cargo cult there's there's uh cults that were in new
01:03:51guinea and elsewhere where they saw airplanes flying over and sometimes stuff would fall out of the
01:03:57airplanes and so they they thought of those as gifts from the gods and they started building straw
01:04:01airplanes that they would give offerings to and you know dance in front of and hoping that they get
01:04:09more gifts from the sky here is right here's the episode i did on that it's a pattern
01:04:15that was uh a sunday episode two the manas rods etc
01:04:23um so that's the most popular indian airline is vimana airlines by the way
01:04:31so i'm gonna vape on this show we're we're we're like uh yeah you're right unscripted here so
01:04:37yeah you gotta watch me vape and i'm not too sure google always changing the rules i haven't got money anyway so
01:04:45but they'll probably end up deleting my channel and by the end of the year anyway just like all
01:04:51channels well that's the way it's hidden by the sense of it they want to get rid of all conspiracies and
01:04:56this is talking about ufos conspiracies and who knows yeah so yeah i did the episode there i just
01:05:03posted it on the side there called uh the manners i mean i've got expert breaks it all down for you
01:05:12saying that um it's been misinterpreted so i can't remember all the details because it was actually
01:05:18quite a lot of information in the episode but well i don't know about how people interpret it but i know
01:05:24that that the family i work for um first generation from from that's ever been in america that they grew
01:05:35up in india and and this is what they were taught is that these vehicles came down from the sky and
01:05:41that there were sky gods that they brought civilization to earth and and uh they they considered them
01:05:49gods yeah yeah i think but their their conception of a god is different than our the western conception
01:05:55of a god yeah it's not so much almighty as it is mightier than we are
01:06:03yes well if there's these portal things right so remember this uh 19 1561 case let's see if it's going
01:06:12to load so google's playing up i think it was at the beginning uh i debunked that one too um with the help of
01:06:21yeah uh my goodness you're such a debunker dude oh no you have to join mufon i'll give you all of my uh
01:06:30all of my drone cases yeah you know my drones my balloons and my chinese lanterns
01:06:37uh it looks like it's not gonna load hang up it doesn't like you like those it doesn't
01:06:42it doesn't like it no i don't actually but um i i i hate i hate it when i get when i open up a case
01:06:49all right and i look at the video and right off i see like a little drone you know it's like yeah
01:06:54let's type it in the famous 19 uh german it was in germany 1951 ufo case
01:07:041561 i think it was this one here you remember this one oh there you go yeah well apparently they
01:07:11reckon it is a uh interpretation of um sundogs right which i've seen sundogs that's just you you you
01:07:22get a sundog on you get one on each side of the sun it's about a whole bunch of them and they they
01:07:28aren't cross-shaped and oh you see multiple sundogs uh they've got some i see sundogs all the time i i i
01:07:37i i actually had an album called sundogs that i put out years ago yeah as a musician
01:07:44that was the title of a record it's a sundog is a reflection of the sun you have one on each side
01:07:50it's not multiple yeah here's here's here's they used to they used to do um what you call
01:07:58they used to carve it in wood and then press it onto paper back then they didn't have presses or computers
01:08:04like we have today uh say that they reckon the guy took um liberty uh with the the etching added
01:08:12his own stuff into it but there's a picture of a sundog uh mixed in between together with other stood
01:08:19two big tubes so you know it's a lot of analysis done here but i did come across a debunker that's
01:08:26actually found a little wood but um yeah it's in the episode well i've seen sundogs plenty of times and
01:08:33that picture doesn't look anything like a sundog right the sundog you have it's it's you have one
01:08:39on each side of the sun and that's that's a sundog yeah you see them in pairs yeah yeah you just have
01:08:47to look like that you just have to watch my episode i think uh i'm not like okay i can't remember all
01:08:53the things it doesn't mean i'm going to agree with you uh you might you might do time time you watched
01:08:59it all and go through all the different steps or like you know i break it
01:09:03down and go through all the different steps i know you're good you're good you know i respect
01:09:08your work but uh yeah i just wonder i would always agree so what's i don't always agree with
01:09:13anybody yeah and i change my own mind sometimes so
01:09:19yeah true so i don't know i'm not going to go on too much longer paul because i think i'm keeping
01:09:24my wife up and it's about 11 30. so i've been on i've been on here for about an hour and a half well
01:09:30last time you lusted to 3 a.m you you were you were going but i'm not making my wife mad here so
01:09:39can't you tell that you know i love you i'm here with you tell the tell the aliens that that they can uh
01:09:46take her for a trip and bring her back
01:09:47i don't think she would want that well she said she said you can tell your little friends
01:10:00i don't know you already went there if they were nice and they that was her words yeah but if they're
01:10:04nice and have a look at the window and have a look at the solar system yeah i'll kind of like a trip like that
01:10:10yeah apparently apparently jerry garcia of the grateful dead got got abducted and was taken on a
01:10:18little trip is what i've heard from uh his his uh his widow uh menasha garcia talks about it i i know
01:10:27his old uh roommates his old uh private assistants that used to live with him and and he was apparently
01:10:35gone for three days and he then suddenly showed up again and he said that uh mantis aliens had taken
01:10:42him on a tour of the cosmos mantis and that it was the best time that he had ever had and he was just
01:10:50so sad that they brought him back and uh you know it was jerry garcia he might have gotten a hold of
01:10:58some good lsd as far as i know there there you go those are the guys they did not eat his they did
01:11:05not eat his head in the process that's a good thing yeah
01:11:12rock stars and aliens that's a thing too you know john lennon's uh ufo uh
01:11:19chris squire of yes was hovered over by a ufo he told me a it leaked about it uh personally
01:11:29um jerry garcia apparently believed that he had been uh abducted for three days by mantis aliens
01:11:37they were really he said they were huge he said well that one's got a little scary looking that one
01:11:43looks like it's got a yeah a little screw up now these are actually drawings by
01:11:51they're kind of cool looking buttons you know look at that one oh i like that picture that's spooky though
01:11:57yeah he's gonna stick it into his ear or back of his neck yeah that's that's not necessarily good no
01:12:04well i i you see i think that sometimes they make us forget stuff on purpose you know yeah who did that
01:12:11one might be a kindness spring oh wow oh that's good one someone's a real good i've never seen those
01:12:18guys so they have actually got long i've seen a little short guys so we've just seen two images
01:12:23done by ducktees and they actually got long necks so there you go yeah and what we thought was a
01:12:29screw is actually looks like some sort of outer body scales maybe mind you if you get attracted by
01:12:37that so you'd shit your pants wouldn't you come on oh sorry about the language but uh
01:12:41yeah you'd be you're breaking your rules yeah yeah we do it yeah well yeah that would that would
01:12:51definitely you would soil your shorts i would soil mine but uh apparently though they're like the
01:12:56philosopher kings that's what i've heard that the mantids uh apparently you know a mind link with them
01:13:03is this wonderful thing that uh yeah you know uh that that uh they're very philosophical and
01:13:10and kind and uh yeah but uh there you go i can't tell you that i don't think uh if they try to come
01:13:19into my house or charlie my dog charlie rue would be really the given of them i i i could understand
01:13:26what dogs would be uh trying to attack them and why they don't like probably they probably don't like
01:13:32pets you know or dogs at least is that a dog he's holding there he's yeah he's fried up there a dog
01:13:38someone's pet owner uh you know there's a good science fiction novel about dogs you should read
01:13:45city by clifford simic yeah you recognize that humanity dies out yeah humanity dies out and the
01:13:53dogs take over the dogs become uh intelligent i think that we might have uplifted them a bit
01:13:59and then we die out and they sort of look back at us as their gods you know they build statues to humans
01:14:07and stuff but uh it's a doggy world yeah this is kind of a cool book i think you'd enjoy it it has
01:14:13robots in it too paul that one looks like something you would paint you know a mantis oh i like that one
01:14:20too yeah oh that's really cool yeah i like that one too i i've never seen one personally i can't tell
01:14:25you what they look like the little grays look like david chase's drawings he's pretty good oh do you know who
01:14:32are they so from these ones yeah yeah that's cory good's little yeah the chicken is anyone actually
01:14:40anyone else oh you know so he's a bit fake but um do you know i've never heard anybody that has
01:14:48ever seen one other than him that i've talked with anyway which kind of makes it fabricated story
01:14:53doesn't it so well and i i i don't know i i think that cory good's story is pretty dubious but
01:15:02you know you might think mine was dubious too so i don't know
01:15:10yeah i know
01:15:15i mean we we don't we don't care for cory's story that much i know that we're sort of in that group
01:15:19here and i i i really don't there you go that's a kind of an interesting picture there i like that
01:15:26yeah but it's got the wrap around eyes yeah but i think you can see a lot i thought they had like uh
01:15:31six limbs though from what i heard i don't know you hear different things from different people you know
01:15:38and there's probably variations on the theme but you know i mean he would do pretty well in a 360 degree
01:15:46movie theater they used to have one at disneyland you know
01:15:52and he would really enjoy that so what color do you think they are so you reckon gray might be suits
01:15:57yes that's one of the questions asked down the side there i sometimes think that maybe they're
01:16:04well you know that they you hear a lot of stories in this field and you have to sort of give them a grain
01:16:11of salt with with uh there's a lot of stories out there but the one that you hear is is that when
01:16:18they actually did uh do an autopsy on on the little gray guys that they were very uh
01:16:28that their organs were not like ours that they were sort of built for short term
01:16:36uh they say that they didn't even they didn't have an elementary system where they couldn't
01:16:42eat or or excrete uh that uh it was kind of thrown together in a temporary package so maybe they're
01:16:51avatars uh maybe there's a space station out there somewhere where uh somebody from another
01:16:59star system can order up a little gray space suit body and they they transplant you in there and
01:17:06you go to earth for your vacation or you know whatever it is that you're doing that one's pretty
01:17:11good i'll just zoom into that one oh my oh yeah no that would scare me i don't really want to meet
01:17:20him yeah looks a little more like cthulhu or something i'm comfortable with that one's got a long
01:17:26head that's pretty good yeah they look all similar though you know oh look at that one that looks
01:17:35like uh peter cushion from star wars he's not very happy it's like somebody buy that man a drink yeah
01:17:44i think that's it for those those collections oh look at that one space shoes you have to give me a
01:17:52link to whatever it is that you're what all right i'll post it down the side it's just google images
01:17:57actually i'll just go through them all just go okay you still look at the mantis stuff yeah so when
01:18:04you watch the stream back the links will be there images are great well mantis i did a search on mantis
01:18:12so mantis well paul i'm i'm probably gonna have to get going here pretty quick
01:18:16my friend because my i'm i'm out of charge and that's kind of i don't have any i i we already
01:18:24used my phone oh that's right let me yeah that's all right so if you have to go you have to go you
01:18:29know it's all good well i don't have to but my ipad and my phone are out of charge so yeah
01:18:37but well you know you could talk for hours on this stuff and we've done it before so yeah we have done
01:18:43it well we'll do it again yeah i'll be back on soon okay uh did he go was he still there no i'm still
01:18:54here all right i thought you dropped off that's because no no i was just giving you a a little
01:19:01warning there yeah cool oh well um it's good to have you on then uh we lasted an hour and a half
01:19:07great being on with you it was it was good being back in out there land i enjoy hanging out with you
01:19:13paul yeah but you need to join our district this discord group so um yeah we can my hair is like
01:19:22crazy look at that uh yeah oh well yeah last time you had it all you had it all nicely fluffed out and
01:19:29you look like you look like the wizard from lord of the rings you know yeah with the hair there you go
01:19:34yeah yeah not tonight not tonight all right you guys have a wonderful night uh you too thank you for
01:19:40having me yeah and they get we'll uh we'll see you next time yeah don't get affected by these uh nasty grays
01:19:48no no and thank you take care my friends and thank you lisa for letting us have l on thank you bye
01:19:57and that brings you back to john
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