00:00Why Foggy?
00:03It's something that we lost a lot of sleep over.
00:07Nobody wanted to do it.
00:09But I think we all came to the same realization that it had to happen.
00:13It's Daredevil born again.
00:15You know, we have to bring Matt down to his bare essence.
00:20But it's done in a different way than the Frank Miller comic book.
00:23In the wake of Foggy's death, I can't even say it.
00:27But you see his whole life shattered.
00:32The thing that's really wild about that is when I came in late to the process,
00:36that was already in the story.
00:38But it had happened off screen.
00:40And your reaction says it all.
00:43And I was like, it can't be off screen.
00:44We have to feel this.
00:46And, you know, there's a promise written on a napkin at the end of season three.
00:49And we see that promise in the beginning of this.
00:51And we take a hammer to it.
00:52And it's harsh and it hurts.
00:54But it is also not done lightly because that loss colors everything that goes on with Matt
01:00from here on out.
01:01And, I mean, a version of it happened in the books.
01:03But it was Karen.
01:05And, I mean, like, no.
01:06So it was one of those things that was very, very tough to do.
01:10But I think ultimately it was inevitable.
01:13It's part of the character.
01:15It's part of the story.
01:16And in the Daredevil world as fans, every loss has a new beginning.
01:21Every time he hits the ground, he gets back up.
01:24And we have to watch that.
01:25Yeah.
01:26And if you think about the old show, like so much, this was the fear.
01:29This is always the fear in Matt Murdock's life.
01:33And I think there's so much story to tell when the fear comes to life.
01:37Relationship, friendship, whatever it is with Karen gets just broken with a sledgehammer.
01:41Um, the law office closes, uh, but you find Matt a year later trying, I think, to approximate
01:50what Foggy wanted for him, um, which is actually a really beautiful thing that, you know, and,
02:00and, and, and Kirsten McDuffie and also Heather Glenn kind of exist to support that new world
02:07he's created for himself.
02:09The unfortunate thing is that that world is a lie.
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