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00:00Hello and welcome to Kent Tonight, live on KMTV.
00:27I'm Cameron Tucker. Here are your top stories on Thursday, the 2nd of October.
00:33Foundations for Appeal. Couple distraught after annex for disabled son rejected by Medway Council.
00:40Elected representatives have let down someone who needs them most.
00:47High alert. Fears amongst Kent's Jewish community in light of Manchester synagogue attack.
00:53And I'll be here with all your latest sports news from across the county.
00:57But first, our top story this evening.
01:08A couple from who have slammed Medway Council for refusing plans for a garden outbuilding to support their disabled son with special educational needs.
01:17Sonia and Steve Butler say the plans were rejected over a technicality.
01:22But Medway Council say permission could not be granted as there is currently no valid dwelling to which the annex could be linked.
01:29Local democracy reporter Olly Leder caught up with the couple to find out how they're coping with the decision.
01:34It's not been an easy few years for Sonia and Steve Butler, still reeling from the death of their son Nathan, who took his own life in 2019.
01:45The couple had been hoping to build a forever home in who for the best part of a decade that could accommodate their children's special educational needs.
01:56But time after time, they've hit roadblocks that have left them with nothing but the foundations of their future still waiting to be completed.
02:06We've just worked all our lives to try and look after our children.
02:12Anyone with special needs children would tell you the same.
02:16But despite Nathan's younger brother desperately needing somewhere to live, they've hit another hurdle, with Medway Council's planning committee denying them permission to convert an existing annex into a living space, while the rest of the works are undertaken.
02:33We need to make sure we don't lose another one because another different government department and now elected representatives have let down someone who needs them most.
02:51Someone who needed to be considered more sympathetically and understandingly and in a way socially responsibly.
03:00The reason why Medway Council rejected the planning application is because the foundations for the full bungalow are about one metre off.
03:08They're slightly too far forward, but they won't allow the annex to be extended or lived in until that is changed.
03:15And that's putting a major strain on Steve and Sonia's lives.
03:19What I'm really hoping is that we can wrap all this up before the winter comes, because it's going to be challenging doing what we're doing anyway.
03:25It's a challenge to build your own property and provide for your son with a building.
03:32So that on top of the winter conditions would be really intolerable.
03:37So I'm hoping and praying we can get everything sorted out.
03:40The couple do plan to appeal the committee's decision, one which wasn't universally supported at the time.
03:49When I see smaller, you know, the little people getting, you know, so much bureaucracy thrown at them and so much, so many problems, it does frustrate me.
03:59It feels to me as if the little person gets treated badly and the big fish, the big developers, they sort of get away with murder sometimes.
04:08Medway Council says that permission could not be granted as there is currently no dwelling that the annex could be connected to and that they remain committed to working with the couple on a revised submission.
04:22But regardless of what happens next, Sonia and Steve remain hopeful that they can provide somewhere safe and secure for their son where his needs can be met.
04:33Giving up now simply isn't an option.
04:36So Oli, break this down for us because it seems that all of this is over really a matter of centimetres.
04:46Essentially.
04:47Well, the family want to turn this outbuilding into somewhere that some with disabilities, with SEND needs, with complex needs, with fatigue, can actually live, get the support that he needs.
04:59But they've been in the lurch for quite a while.
05:03Well, since 2018, they have had the building materials.
05:06The builder left them with just the foundations, essentially.
05:10And these foundations, due to a contractor, are off by around 80 centimetres.
05:15And that's what it's all come down to.
05:17These footings, they're a tiny bit off.
05:19But what that means is that the property doesn't actually exist, that they have planning permission for.
05:26The council say they need to fix the footings and then get it all sorted out.
05:31And then they can get the building built and the annex in place.
05:35But they say they can't wait that long.
05:36Their son isn't living in a caravan.
05:38He's been sofa surfing.
05:39He needs to move in there before Christmas because his needs are quite complex.
05:43And as often is the case with these situations, I imagine there's going to be an appeal going forward.
05:50Well, that's how it all tends to work.
05:53They get a final decision notice.
05:55They can then go to appeal, challenge the council.
05:58Obviously, officers say they have praised everything properly, crossed the T's, dotted the I's.
06:05But the butlers say that they don't believe that this is fair.
06:09And one of the independent councillors who called it in to planning committee also agrees that they, he thinks there's a really good ground for appeal here, which could cost thousands in officer time.
06:23That's what he claims, that this could be an expensive process for the council.
06:28But at the same time, the council are confident they've done everything they can.
06:33And they are saying they're working with the butlers to try and get this situation sorted out for both parties.
06:39Ali, thank you very much.
06:41Next tonight, an inquest has found a mother from Ashford stabbed her daughter in the back with a 12-inch knife before turning the blade on herself.
06:50Orica Floria Lazar had told a psychiatric nurse of her fear of being sectioned just hours before the incident unfolded in Elson Close in Ashford.
06:59Her daughter, Roxana Hartigan, suffered a punctured lung and fended off further attacks before running outside and screaming, she stabbed me.
07:06More details of the inquest can be found on Kent Online.
07:11A man in his 60s has been arrested after buses were damaged at a Sheerness Depot.
07:16Travelmasters, a company that runs services to city-born schools from Sheppey, stated at around half past six yesterday that services had been stopped due to criminal damage.
07:27Many schoolchildren in the area were subsequently late to school, while the suspect remains in custody as inquiries continue.
07:35The Jewish community in Kent have been advised to exercise caution after an attack on a synagogue in Manchester left two people killed.
07:43The police have declared it a terrorist incident, and here in Kent, the force are at sites of worship to provide reassurance after the incident.
07:52Kristen Hawthorne is outside Chatham Memorial Synagogue with us now, where we can see there is a police presence.
07:58Kristen, what's it like down there?
08:00Kristen Hawthorne, Yes, so the atmosphere here is actually quite peaceful.
08:05As you said, that there is police here.
08:08Now, I was speaking to the police when I arrived, that were standing just outside.
08:12They said that they would normally be here anyway for services and events such as this, Yom Kippur, which is widely known across the Jewish community.
08:21The only difference really is that about 20 minutes ago, one of the senior officers came down just to show his support for the on-the-beat officers and show that there is a reassuring atmosphere here in Chatham.
08:36Inside, when I was speaking to those within the community, they just seemed willing to get on with the service for Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year.
08:44And, I mean, aside from that, it seems quite peaceful.
08:47There was people going into the synagogue, people coming out, and things are quite normal over here in Chatham.
08:53And the Jewish community has been part of Medway for a very long time, for centuries.
09:02And, you know, this is obviously a horrendous chapter for their community up in Manchester.
09:07Can you tell us a little bit, give us a bit of a sense of the role of the Jewish community in Medway?
09:12Yes, so here in Chatham, it's actually, they actually have one of the oldest Jewish communities, 300 years old, three centuries, which is quite a long time.
09:24So you can see maybe how this event could affect the community here more than maybe other places.
09:30However, the peoples here seem to be quite vigilant on it with the day that it's meant to be and aren't thinking too deeply about it.
09:38Maybe on later they will.
09:40However, I did notice that on the synagogue's website, they do have a police poster that shows Run, Hide and Tell, which does prepare for terror incidents like this.
09:50So it seems that while this was a surprise for today, it maybe wasn't unexpected in the long term, unfortunately.
09:57So that warning to show vigilance from the police, you've spoken to the police, you've also been talking to other representatives and leaders in the community as well, I believe.
10:08Of course. So earlier today, I spoke to Tris Osborne, MP for Chatham and Aylesford, about the local reaction and about this kind of support that MPs and police are offering to the Jewish community.
10:20They are not common, but when they do happen, everyone comes together, they share the hurt and the pain and they offer their condolences.
10:30No one, whatever your religious viewpoint, whether you're Jewish, Muslim, Christian, none of the above, no one deserves this type of activity to happen.
10:38It is abhorrent. It is a crime. And we've now got to allow the police the space to understand the motive, understand the individual and his lifestyle, the reasons why they chose to undertake these types of horrific actions.
10:53And then we can come to a resolution. But I can assure religious communities in Kent and Medway that the police are there to support them.
11:01And that we do take these types of crimes very seriously and the protection of religious centres very seriously indeed.
11:10So in a statement, Kent Police told me that local policing teams are providing reassurance to the Jewish community in the county following the terrorist incident that happened in Manchester this morning.
11:20So there is support out there. And if you've been affected, you can reach out.
11:25Kristen Hawthorne will be joining you a bit later on in the programme. Thank you very much for that.
11:30Now it's time to go to a quick break. We're going to talk about the lasting legacy of Dr Jane Goodall following the news of her passing at the age of 91 years old, tributes pouring in from all across the county.
11:40We'll also have the weather and all the latest sports news when we come back in just a few minutes' time.
12:00Thank you so much for having me watching.
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17:00she dedicated her life to the study and conservation of chimpanzees and other great apes and much of
17:06her work was actually groundbreaking a good old discovered that chimps use tools created complex
17:12societies and even learn about their aggressive behavior and the fact that they can actually kill
17:17each other but some of her most groundbreaking research was finding that these behaviors like
17:21making tools and the aggression in complex societies showed that chimps behaviors suggested
17:26that they actually shared a common ancestors with us humans and how did she make those discoveries
17:31because they're quite they're almost like darwinian bold claims aren't they yeah well it was actually
17:36during her time at a rainforest where she watched a male chimpanzee at the time he was just foraging
17:42and she said that he picked up a stick stripped it off its leaves and actually began to poke a termite's
17:48nest with it basically using the stick to utilize it as a utensil to get the food out of the termite's
17:55nest and the observation was made in 1960 and at the time she wasn't actually formally trained as a
18:01scientist which was unusual however she changed her understanding of the natural world and challenged
18:07our beliefs that only humans use tools so it was quite an outlet statement to suggest that other animals
18:14and other things were using tools and just not us humans so she really did change and shape the way we
18:20started started thinking about other species yeah and like the likes of darwin or even attenborough she's
18:27really um transformed people's understanding of of the natural world and i believe she did that in uh
18:33she did that in kent as well didn't she yeah well in 2020 she come down here and she done a talk at
18:39the university of kent as part of the dice talks um as they've got a big dice lecture hall there and she
18:45spoke about chimpanzees conservation not only that but her experience being a young woman going into
18:51the forest and working in the field herself and i believe from a post this morning you were actually
18:57at the talk that is true i was there and it was really you know they say don't meet your heroes and
19:01absolutely you should and it was really inspiring and i think you know knowing what you've done with
19:06kent on climate and hearing about your um you know your love of the natural world and conservation um
19:13stories like hers it really makes sense why all the tributes are coming in and how impactful
19:18she's been to um you know people like yourself who love the natural world yeah and tributes we've
19:25been seeing up and down the country today through social media and online um one here in kent that
19:31has particularly stuck out is one from sir roger gale he made a statement on social media and in the post
19:37he said that it was a privilege to work alongside her and in their endeavors and bringing an end to the
19:42practice of trophy hunting and he went on to say that in her memory that they shall continue to fight
19:48to until it's not only legislation but also that hunters themselves have a proper held to proper
19:54account and people are just reminiscing their time with her the work that she's done and just the
20:00legacy that she's leaving behind desi thank you very much for coming in and telling us all about
20:04that's jane goodall now time for a quick look at all the top sports from across the county with finn mcdermid
20:23hello i'm finn mcdermid here to bring you all the sports news from right across the county and first
20:29tonight of course we have to talk about the women's world cup victory with kent's own rosie galligan
20:35praising the camaraderie in the squad the west marling lock who normally plays for saracens was
20:42a 70th minute substitution in the final win against canada at twickenham as the red roses won a world
20:47cup for the third time she said if you're not helping each other out then how can you go towards
20:52something together that's something we've cemented over the last few years i wouldn't want to win the
20:57world cup with anyone else she added the win was a phenomenal one especially with her family in the stands
21:03in more news the new manager alan dunn has collected his first win as the gaffer of the tunbridge
21:10angels with a 5-0 victory against cray valley the position marks the former millwil captain's first
21:17job as manager with him previously being bromley's assistant manager during their rise to the football league
21:22the fa cup game against the paper mills saw the angels face off against a four goal lead by the
21:29half-time whistle recent clean sheets against cray valley and worthing have also been a source of
21:33pride for the new manager who previously said that defense was something they wanted to work on
21:39we can hear a bit more from alan dunn now yeah really pleased i mean um well i thought we was excellent
21:45i thought we were good for it in all departments i thought we shifted the ball i thought we looked
21:51dangerous in the counter uh i wanted us to go out there and be expansive and and and we tweak the
21:57shape a little bit um just to be a bit more aggressive and i felt that worked for us i thought
22:02like every time we count it looked like we're going to score losing half early on i felt like it might just
22:07disrupt the momentum a little bit um but we reacted to to it brilliantly the boys come on and and we're
22:13about tweaking again the shape so a lot of positives never get too high with it there's a lot of work
22:19to be done um i'm pleased with the clean sheet i'm pleased with the out of application of the boys
22:26um tonight and like you said this is an opportunity there to go on in the fa cup and make it make it
22:33make it special memories for the for the club so in other news the ice hockey season has hit the rink
22:38running here in kent with the invicta dynamos beating the romford buccaneers and solent devils
22:44the team's all-time leading point scorer andy smith rejoined the mose this season and has already
22:48added to his account scoring in a 4-1 victory in their opening game against the buccaneers
22:53smith then assisted dan gatenby for the equalizer against the solent devils earning them a spot in
22:58a penalty shootout which they won giving the team a five-point weekend head coach carl lennon said the
23:04weekend started with andy scoring and finished with andy scoring and it kind of feels like business has
23:09resumed from the old days and finally tornbridge and mauling zach skinner says missing out on a medal
23:15at the world para athletics championships in india was one of his worst displays the visually impaired
23:21long jumper did not manage to make the podium despite a leap of 6.8 meters but was unable to
23:27match his season's best of 6.89 meters which would have earned him a bronze medal on his performance he
23:33just said he just couldn't get it right today there are always excuses and things that can't go your
23:37way but every other athlete has those skinner is one of more than 30 british athletes out in the indian
23:43capital and that's all for your sports bulletin
23:56well plenty to unpack there but we've got a whole roster of teams here behind us finn
24:01what can we look forward to this weekend across the county well for jill's fans right in the middle
24:05there it's hopefully back to winning ways obviously they had their 21 game unbroken record of unbeaten
24:13games sorry and that was unfortunately stopped last weekend after a one nil loss to harrogate town
24:20a game i think they arguably dominated the most possession the most shots but they just couldn't
24:24find the back of the net they'll be traveling up to milton keynes this weekend to face the mk dons
24:29they're currently at ninth while the jills at third so like like i said a heartbreaking loss that
24:36record stood since uh 1973 to 1974 i believe at 20 games so it is good that they managed to beat
24:42it but many jills fans will be hoping they could have carried that forward mk dons have recorded
24:47three losses a draw and only a win in their last five games so if you want my prediction i think
24:51it is a jills win so on paper a good chance to get back on track and stay amongst those promotion
24:57places i think so still at third so fingers crossed they can stay there down in the national league
25:01south will actually have a kent derby dover athletic will head to longmead stadium to face off with the
25:07tunbridge angels who we saw earlier they look to be in some good form they are a little bit further
25:13down the table at 15th eighth place for dover then at 16th made stone will be placing facing sorry a
25:19lower uh league side in dagnum and redbridge they're at 21st place in the league hell hoping to end a
25:25recent string of losses but there's also some fa trophy action for the ismian premier as well for all
25:31the fans to look forward to loads to cover i'm sure you'll be looking at all of that on uh invictor sport uh
25:35next week um we're going to have more on the uh kent tonight in a few moments time do join us
25:41after this short break i do apologize we had a few technical issues there we've got to do the
25:46weather as well let's have a look at the weather tonight is looking a clear night with temperatures
25:56reaching lows of 15 degrees highs of 16 that'll be dropping down to 13 around medway spots of rain
26:04around mainstone and medway uh going up to 17 18 degrees across the board tomorrow afternoon
26:13and looking ahead to the rest of the weekend pretty overcast conditions going to highs of 20 degrees
26:19on monday
26:30we will now be going to a break we're going to be back in a few moments time and look back at some of
26:34our top stories a bit more sport and also we'll have chris dc here a little bit later on uh on this
26:40next week's kent film chat do join us in a few moments time
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29:53Hello and welcome back to Kent Tonight live on KMTV.
30:16I'm Cameron Tucker and here's a reminder of your top stories on Thursday the 2nd of October.
30:22Foundations for Appeal, couple distraught after Annex for Disabled Son rejected by Medway Council.
30:30High alert, fears amongst Kent's Jewish community in light of Manchester synagogue attack.
30:37And I'll be joined by Kent Film Club's Chris D.C. to talk all things movies.
30:43A look back at our top story from this evening.
30:46A couple from WHO have slammed Medway Council for refusing plans for a garden outbuilding
30:51to support their disabled son with special educational needs.
30:55Sonia and Steve Butler say the plans are rejected over a technicality.
30:59But Medway Council say permission could not be granted
31:02as there is currently no valid dwelling to which the annex could be linked.
31:07Local democracy reporter Olly Leder caught up with the couple
31:09to find out how they're coping with the decision.
31:12It's not been an easy few years for Sonia and Steve Butler, still reeling from the death
31:19of their son Nathan, who took his own life in 2019.
31:23The couple had been hoping to build a forever home in WHO for the best part of a decade that
31:30could accommodate their children's special educational needs.
31:34But time after time, they've hit roadblocks that have left them with nothing but the foundations
31:40of their future still waiting to be completed.
31:43We've just worked all our lives to try and look after our children.
31:49Anyone with special needs children would tell you the same.
31:53But despite Nathan's younger brother desperately needing somewhere to live, they've hit another
32:00hurdle, with Medway Council's planning committee denying them permission to convert an existing
32:06annex into a living space while the rest of the works are undertaken.
32:11We need to make sure we don't lose another one because another different government department
32:19and now elected representatives have let down someone who needs them most, someone who needed
32:29to be considered more sympathetically and understandingly and in a way socially responsibly.
32:38The reason why Medway Council rejected the planning application is because the foundations
32:42for the full bungalow are about one metre off.
32:45They're slightly too far forward.
32:47But they won't allow the annex to be extended or lived in until that is changed.
32:53And that's putting a major strain on Steve and Sonia's lives.
32:56What I'm really hoping is that we can wrap all this up before the winter comes because
33:01it's going to be challenging doing what we're doing anyway.
33:03It's a challenge to build your own property and provide for your son with a building.
33:10So that on top of the winter conditions would be really intolerable.
33:14So I'm hoping and praying we can get everything sorted out.
33:17The couple do plan to appeal the committee's decision, one which wasn't universally supported
33:25at the time.
33:27When I see the little people getting so much bureaucracy thrown at them and so many problems,
33:36it does frustrate me.
33:36It feels to me as if the little person gets treated badly and the big fish, the big developers,
33:44they sort of get away with murder sometimes.
33:46Medway Council says that permission could not be granted as there is currently no dwelling
33:51that the annex could be connected to and that they remain committed to working with the
33:57couple on a revised submission.
33:59But regardless of what happens next, Sonia and Steve remain hopeful that they can provide
34:06somewhere safe and secure for their son where his needs can be met.
34:11Giving up now simply isn't an option.
34:14Oli Leda in who?
34:17So Oli, break this down for us because it seems that all of this is over really a matter of
34:22centimetres.
34:23Essentially, well, the family want to turn this outbuilding into somewhere that someone
34:29with disabilities, with S&D needs, with complex needs, with fatigue, can actually live, get
34:35the support that he needs.
34:37But they've been in the lurch for quite a while.
34:40Since 2018, they had the building materials.
34:43The builder left them with just the foundations, essentially.
34:47And these foundations, due to a contractor, are off by around 80 centimetres.
34:52And that's what it's all come down to.
34:54These footings, they're a tiny bit off.
34:57But what that means is that the property doesn't actually exist, that they have planning
35:02permission for.
35:03The council say they need to fix the footings and then get it all sorted out.
35:08And then they can get the building built and the annex in place.
35:12But they say they can't wait that long.
35:14Their son isn't living in a caravan.
35:15He's been sofa surfing.
35:16He needs to move in there before Christmas because his needs are quite complex.
35:21And as often is the case with these situations, I imagine there's going to be an appeal going
35:26forward.
35:27Well, that's how it all tends to work.
35:30They get a final decision notice.
35:32They can then go to appeal, challenge the council.
35:36Obviously, officers say they have praised everything properly, crossed the T's, dotted the I's.
35:42But the butlers say that they don't believe that this is fair.
35:46And one of the independent councillors who called it in to planning committee also agrees that
35:54he thinks there's a really good ground for appeal here, which could cost thousands in
36:00officer time.
36:01That's what he claims, that this could be an expensive process for the council.
36:06But at the same time, the council are confident they've done everything they can.
36:10And they are saying they're working with the butlers to try and get this situation sorted
36:15out for both parties.
36:17Ali, thank you very much.
36:19Now, in our other top story, the Jewish community in Kent have been advised to exercise caution
36:23after an attack on a synagogue in Manchester left two people killed.
36:28The police have declared it a terrorist incident.
36:30And here in Kent, the force are at sites of worship to provide reassurance after the incident.
36:35Kristen Hawthorne is outside Chatham Memorial Synagogue with us now, where we can see a police
36:40presence behind her.
36:41Kristen, what's the mood like down there?
36:45Yeah, well, I mean, obviously it's a very sad holiday today for the Jewish community.
36:49And while people are showing support and being extra vigilant, the peaceful, the atmosphere
36:54here, as you can see, is quite peaceful.
36:57And the community are continuing with their Yom Kippur service.
37:01Senior officers arrived at about 20 past five to show the support for those officers that
37:07are on the beat, as people were arriving for the service.
37:13I was told, however, that the police would have attended this service anyway, had there
37:17not been this event over in Manchester.
37:20But because of it, they are just being extra vigilant.
37:22And then that is why the senior police officer arrived inside.
37:26Then I spoke to some members of the community who didn't want to speak on camera due to the
37:30upcoming service, which is happening now, I believe.
37:34But it was quiet inside.
37:36And while this undoubtedly has affected the community here in Chatham, it seems like today's
37:41service is particularly important.
37:44And you've also been talking to, like you mentioned, you spoke to the police on site.
37:50And you've also got a statement from them as well.
37:52What can you tell us that the police have come forward and said?
37:55Yes, so in a statement, they said that local policing teams are providing reassurance to
38:02the Jewish community in the county following the terrorist incident in Manchester that happened
38:06just this morning.
38:07So it seems like they're giving out their reassurance and support for those in the community
38:12and are open to anyone that wants to come forward and report any instances if they feel
38:16unsafe.
38:17And what's been the word from the local representatives in the area?
38:24So earlier today, I spoke to Tris Osborne, MP for Chatham and Aylesford, and he wanted to
38:30share his thoughts about, I mean, what's happened here and how it might affect people here in the county.
38:36They are not common, but when they do happen, everyone comes together.
38:41However, they share the hurt and the pain and they offer their condolences.
38:46No one, whatever your religious viewpoint, whether you're Jewish, Muslim, Christian, none
38:50of the above, no one deserves this type of activity to happen.
38:54It is abhorrent.
38:55It is a crime.
38:56And we've now got to allow the police the space to understand the motive, understand the
39:02individual and his lifestyle, the reasons why they chose to undertake these types of horrific
39:07actions.
39:07And then we can come to a resolution.
39:11But I can assure religious communities in Kent and Medway that the police are there to
39:15support them and that we do take these types of crimes very seriously and the protection
39:20of religious centres very seriously indeed.
39:24Now, don't forget, you can keep up to date with all your latest stories from across Kent
39:29by logging on to our website, kmtv.co.uk.
39:32There you'll find all our reports, including this one about Siemens Day, which is held at the
39:37end of every August and saw participants from Maidstone.
39:40The sea, strong winds and plenty of fish and chips.
39:45Siemens Day in the Faroe Islands is a week-long celebration packed with exhibitions, workshops
39:51and even water fights.
39:54More than just fun, the event brings a positive boost to the local community, not just on the
39:59island, but here in Kent as well.
40:01This year, Craig Lewis of Lewis's Fish and Grill in Maidstone gave it a fry.
40:06This year, Craig went to the Faroe Islands with some of the team at Lewis's and they did,
40:13they took part in a festival, a Siemens festival that they put on every year.
40:17They fry 10,000 portions of fish and chips in one day, which is two tons of fish and five
40:28tons of potatoes.
40:29We've been doing the event for the last 10 years, but each year it's got bigger and better.
40:35And this year they did a lot of preparation.
40:38They built a self-contained unit for the frying of the fish and chips and they spent the whole
40:45day making the batter, making the chips, cutting the fish before the actual day of the event.
40:50So it's been a lot of prep.
40:52By the end of the event, two tons of fish and five tons of potatoes had been dished out.
40:58The first 1,000 portions of fish and chips were delivered to hospitals, care homes and
41:03elderly centres across the community.
41:05A large portion of the fish used for the traditional UK fish and chips comes from the Faroe Islands.
41:12The week of celebrations is a fantastic showcase of where the fish comes from and the well-loved
41:17tradition it becomes here in the UK.
41:20It's really great to promote fish and chips in the UK and, you know, across Europe.
41:26And when we get fish coming from the Faroe Islands, it's fantastic that they know what happens
41:31to it.
41:32And we're really happy and they're really happy.
41:34And it's just a positive story, positive news all round.
41:38With 9,000 tons of fish and chips served up, a happy community and a celebration of where
41:44our fish and chips comes from, it's fair to say that this year's Seaman Day was smooth sailing.
41:51Stick around for more after this break.
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45:51of chimpanzees and other great apes and much of her work was actually groundbreaking a good old
45:58discovered that chimps use tools created complex societies and even learn about their aggressive
46:03behavior and the fact that they can actually kill each other but some of her most groundbreaking
46:08research was finding that these behaviors like making tools and the aggression in complex
46:12societies showed that chimps behaviors suggested that they actually shared a common ancestors with
46:17us humans and how did she make those discoveries because they're quite they're almost like darwinian
46:21bold claims aren't they yeah well it was actually during her time at a rainforest where she watched
46:27a male chimpanzee at the time he was just foraging and she said that he picked up a stick stripped it
46:33off its leaves and actually began to poke a termite's nest of it basically using the stick to utilize it
46:41as a utensil to get the food out of the termite's nest and the observation was made in 1960 and at
46:48the time she wasn't actually formally trained as a scientist which was unusual however she changed her
46:53understanding of the natural world and challenged our beliefs that only humans use tools so it was
46:59quite an outlet statement to suggest that other animals and other things were using tools and just
47:06not us humans so she really did change and shape the way we started started thinking about other
47:12species yeah and like the likes of darwin or even attenborough she's really um transformed people's
47:18understanding of of the natural world and i believe she did that in uh she did that in kent as well didn't
47:23she yeah well in 2020 she come down here and she done a talk at the university of kent as part of the dice
47:30talks um as they've got a big dice lecture hall there and she spoke about chimpanzees conservation
47:36not only that but her experience being a young woman going into the forest and working in the
47:42field herself and i believe from a post this morning you actually at the talk that is true i was there and
47:48it was really you know they say don't meet your heroes and absolutely you should and it was really
47:52inspiring and i think you know knowing what you've done with kent on climate and hearing about your um
47:58you know your love of the natural world and conservation um stories like hers it really
48:04makes sense why all the tributes are coming in and how impactful she's been to um you know people
48:09like yourself who love the natural world yeah and tributes we've been seeing up and down the country
48:15today through social media and online um one here in kent that has particularly stuck out is one from
48:22sir roger gale he made a statement on social media and in the post he said that it was a privilege to work
48:27alongside her and in their endeavors and bringing an end to the practice of trophy hunting and he
48:33went on to say that in her memory that they shall continue to fight to until it's not only legislation
48:39but also that hunters themselves have a proper held to proper account and people are just reminiscing
48:45their time with her the work that she's done and just the legacy that she's leaving behind desi thank
48:51you very much for coming in and telling us all about that's jane goodall now it's time to take a quick
48:56look at the weather forecast
49:03tonight's looking like a clear night temperatures reaching lows of 15 highs of 16 in the southeast of
49:10the county tomorrow morning temperatures drop to between 13 and 14 degrees around the county wind
49:14speeds of 14 miles per hour in the east uh into the afternoon it's remaining partly cloudy a temperature
49:19rising to highs of 18 degrees wind speeds remaining at 14 a pretty overcast across the weekend
49:25and into monday uh mercury rising to 20 degrees on uh monday
49:31and as always on a thursday we'll be catching up with chris dc on all the latest film news from
49:44across the county and beyond and hopefully not too many uh spoilers on some of the many films that
49:49you've seen this week but i want to start with uh this rather smiley looking individual but a little
49:56bit more to this story than than uh beyond that picture tell us a little bit about what we're
50:00looking at well this is tilly norwood now you'd think that she's of a glamorous tv or film star
50:07but she's an ai creation and i know emily blunt over the last couple of days when she saw her
50:14performance said we have to worry anybody in the acting industry can see that there's no way they can
50:18compete with ai technology but actually when you think about it think of the world of puppeteers think of
50:23cartoon in a way are they substitution or are they doing something that is just a variation or maybe
50:29something that's more experimentation so it's that she's not going to compete in the same marketplace
50:37well not yet as actors but has a distinct role to play i think that i mean whippy goldberg was talking
50:43about this and said oh well but we always know the difference between a real actor and an ai but there
50:48will come a point i mean anybody watching this now will probably not look at that and and think you
50:54know is is that a real person the technology will get better what will happen when actors will be out
51:00of a job because anybody who who notoriously turns up late on the set well the ai will be there on time
51:05and and won't have to be paid millions for the job you hear all these stories about uh particular divas
51:10in the industry as well don't have to deal with that with ai but let's have viewers um have a look for
51:16themselves we have got the video of uh tilly norwood so let's have a look at that now
51:21uh so we've been playing that um on screen having a look there um you talked about emily blunt whoopi
51:26goldberg um there's along with the loads of actors um actors and the actors union sag afro have been
51:32speaking out uh about this um but we are seeing ai creep in more and more whether that's in the content
51:39as in one of the recent mission impossible films that's a villain or um indeed in the brutalists
51:44where ai was used to enhance um agent brodie um speaking hungarian so um is this all a flash in
51:51a pan uh how much more are we going to see this creep in and impact jobs really as well no i think
51:56we need to take it really seriously because the strikes of can you believe it now two years ago
52:01were all about this and at the time i thought it was fictional i thought you know it's it's the fear of
52:06the unknown but ai is with us you know who doesn't use chat gpt yeah there will come a point when
52:14people will think well you know if somebody doesn't turn up on set to do something well there's going
52:19to be an ai equivalent that can that can fill in the role and there are pluses and minuses with that
52:24do we want authenticity i mean obviously we're both sitting here in a real studio and doing and having a
52:29live chat but you know in 10 years time 20 years time who knows what sort of alternatives there may
52:35be you know conversations that will end in ways there won't be any ums and ahs and it'll all be
52:40done in a flawless delivery but in a way who'd want that you know who wants computers to do the job for
52:45us so i think that there's definitely talent sophistication in all of this but from the point
52:51of view of our own heritage what we're used to i think that it is a brave new world yeah no no ai
52:57film guests on the kent film club uh just uh not yet yet um a bit of a gear change we're into october
53:04now um spooky season um let's talk about it with film there's news out um today a ghost story uh for
53:11christmas um the room in the tower which has been filmed in common hall in kent um featuring tobias
53:17menzies joanna lumley um mega stars um what is it about kent because there's quite a few horror-based
53:24or spooky-based films that have been based in the county what is it about the county that
53:27lends itself to that but you're right because i've often thought like dover castle for example
53:31what a brilliant location that would be for this kind of you know haunted house genre well i think
53:36you're right but kent has got castles kent has heritage so it's prime for this sort of setting
53:42i mean although it's not in the same genre i think the thursday murder club that's set in kent
53:47the big you know the almost of the stately home and that's where all sorts of shady goings-on
53:52take place you can easily see that transplanted into a ghost story and we see common hill common
53:57hall here on screen where um where that was filmed um in some lighter news um we saw that a sequel to
54:06the simpsons movie uh has been announced quite a few years after um but we're seeing this more and
54:12more like sequels coming almost sometimes decades after the spinal tap uh film coming out as well um
54:18what is it about us going back to some of these uh some of this ip yeah well there's the irony
54:22because uh it was on the trace yuleman show 1987 that the simpsons first appeared it took 20 years
54:27for the first movie and now 20 years for the next it's almost like a simpsons joke but but you are
54:32right because it's i remember with the south park movie as well there's always that risk that turning
54:39a tv program into a film is going to sabotage the film the the series people are going to see it in a new
54:45way does it mean that just because something works on the small screen that people are going to leap
54:49to the cinemas to watch it but inevitably that happens and then they make the sequels so it kind
54:55of feels inevitable but sometimes it's nice to think that there is a place because often we see
55:00crossover films on netflix and in the cinema sometimes i'll watch something on the big screen
55:04like at the curzon in canterbury that i could also choose to see without the popcorn uh at home but in a
55:10way sometimes it would be nice if we just said okay do we need to have a full-length movie of this
55:16it's not as though the simpsons isn't available in another form i mean it's been going for 40 years
55:21and just very quickly because um uh we're almost at the end of the show uh one of the films you've
55:26seen this week the lost bus a few kent connections there as well tell us about those oh paul paul greengrass
55:31oscar nominated for united uh 93 back in 2007 it's a disaster movie but my word it's a disaster movie
55:39that's like volcano it's like dante's peak but it's based on real life events and literally the
55:43bus driving through hell and it's it's like dantean and it's a real life story what happened in paradise
55:50ironically very dantean in california in 2018 i was gripped from start to finish and even though it's
55:55based on a real life story i didn't know how it was going to play out i have never been that gripped
55:59in a movie and like you said loads of kent connections there with paul greengrass um tell us
56:03a little bit about some of those connections very quickly well what he lived and studied in kent for a
56:07long while i remember when he was up for the oscar uh kent was very much put on the map and was living
56:12in kent at the time so that's very exciting he's not from kent originally uh but uh there are buildings
56:17i think uh in that's right graves uh graves and the uh the main theater theater in the center of town
56:22named after him named after him um chris uh wow covered lots of ground there um thank you so much for
56:28coming in i'm looking forward to catching up next week on all the film news but that is all we have
56:33uh on this uh edition of the kent tonight uh live on kmtv we'll be back with more stories
56:39from across the county tomorrow have a good evening and we'll see you then goodbye
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