* A Lot Is In-Play To Help Tina Get Free Per Trump's Orders * Charlie Kirk's Impact Will Boomerang Against Those Who Thought They Could Silence His Message *
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00:00Juan, how are you doing? Are you there yet?
00:03I am.
00:04All right.
00:04You can hear me.
00:06Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Great. So really appreciate it. Looks like you're on a pretty place there with the ocean coming in. So that's awesome.
00:14Yeah, it's another beautiful day in paradise.
00:19All right. That's awesome.
00:20So, hey, I know last time it was interesting, not that you have to say because it might have been personal, but there are some – you're about ready to come on in about 10 minutes before you got some important phone call.
00:33So before we hit the Charlie Kirk thing, anything crazy that's going on in your world that you can talk about that happened before the Charlie Kirk incident?
00:45I mean, where to start?
00:48Of course, today is Tina Peter's birthday. President Trump's been pretty animated about the fact that he wants her free. There's stuff going on in the background right now that I think there is a – been a very strong desire to see to it that she was out by today at some point.
01:14Wow.
01:16But, you know, let me just add this. God has his timing. And today's her birthday. She's 70 years old. There's something about sevens. We don't live our lives, you know, on the numbers like the heathen do.
01:34But we do note them. You know, God does things with a perfection, you know, 40 days and 40 nights and all sorts of things in the Bible with very exact numbers that occurred.
01:46It's actually astonishing.
01:48And the number of weeks of the tribulation and days and things like that all have huge importance.
01:58Trump's first day in office, which was not the day he was inaugurated, so the 20th of January, 2017, his first full day in office was on the 21st.
02:13And on the 21st of January, 2017, he was 70 years old, seven days – or seven months, seven days, and he began work at seven in the morning that day in the Oval Office.
02:26There was quite a bunch of sevens in there. In the Gematry, it dropped to zero. It doesn't mean anything, Gematry being the language of numbers.
02:38And so seven's a big deal there. Trump, I know, had intended that with all of the efforts going on, Tino would be free by today, her 70th birthday.
02:53But, you know, there's a lot of mechanics involved, and the intent is not to create a precedence that could be misused in the future.
03:13And so, Tina, this national heroine, who has really suffered greatly in the cause of election justice in America, you know, every minute counts.
03:31But I believe very strongly that we're about to see that situation start going the other direction on multiple fronts.
03:41Those that engineered her being a scapegoat for everything and engineered her being very publicly flogged and thrown in jail over the election stuff.
04:02People will themselves, you know, there's the scripture, he who digs a hole for another will himself fall into it.
04:12It's Esther the boomerang, as Roseanne called it.
04:15All the things that were intended against God's people, starting with Haman, who created a hangman's device to impale and raise up Mordecai and have him hanged in a very gruesome public way.
04:35He himself was impaled and hung high on this hangman's device that he had constructed.
04:44The war that Haman set up to destroy the Jews, in fact, many months later, became the vehicle which eliminated the enemies of the Jews there in Persia and allowed for them to gain even greater strength.
05:05That which the enemy worked against us, God's turning for good and for production and beauty and Tina's life.
05:15All these moments that got her here, all these last few moments in the last several years with the persecution of Tina are going to be flipped around and God himself will delight in blessing her and blessing America through her as this national heroine hero is freed.
05:38And then justice is brought to all those of her persecutors that put her in this precarious position at this moment.
05:48Yes, that is great news.
05:51I heard something about how they were going to make it federal to where there could be a pardon.
05:56Is that going to be something around that?
05:59I don't don't put it within a pardon vote.
06:02OK, this is the part.
06:04There's a lot going on there and it's not open for public discussion for the moment.
06:15Just know that everything is being brought to bear in order to assist Tina and get her out of this very precarious, dangerous place where she's at right now.
06:28Yeah, and I imagine the deep state is going to fight that like mad, right, Juan, because she's a witness to some incredible election fraud from the machines, right?
06:40Well, the question is, is it just a state issue or.
06:44First of all, was she protecting federal election law standards material?
06:52And beyond that, is she, in fact, a federal whistleblower?
06:59Way back early on, I had written a brief well over a year and a half ago and before even her first trial.
07:10And I think others tagged in and did additional to that, notably Atrona Sevens and others.
07:22Right.
07:22And that's now being acted upon, it's been expanded upon, and I think we're about to see something amazing happen.
07:31But again, we won't, you know, get ahead of ourselves.
07:38Let's let what has to happen, you know, occur first and we'll worry about what its meaning truly is or how we're going to use that.
07:47Right, right.
07:49Okay, and I do want to get to the Charlie Kirk, but one last question before we got there was just the whole election fraud timing.
07:58Obviously, with Patrick Byrne talking about Serbia and all the virtual machine and flipping the votes and that we still have those in most every state, I think in every state.
08:10Well, it's a process.
08:13I mean, that's the one thing that everybody has to take a deep breath.
08:18It's, you know, when you're traveling as fast as we are as a country with as much going on, as big as we are, you don't turn on a dime.
08:33If you do turn on a dime, it's because you're not going anywhere.
08:36You know, you can put the side thrusters on and go in circles, but you're not moving forward anyway.
08:42We have a lot going on as a country, and it is a process to reorient ourselves.
08:53And there's those that have been steering us towards the rock, towards the reefs to destroy America.
09:00And we have, you know, very important labor that we're involved in to get our headings corrected and to move away from danger.
09:12And even the manner in which we engage in situation for Tina Peters is so crucial not to get it wrong and make a precedent that 10 or 20 or 30 years down the road, nefarious people could come in and abuse it.
09:30And so much as we want justice in Tina's case, we want justice that doesn't leave us in later or further peril.
09:41That would not be right.
09:44Mm-hmm.
09:45Yeah, because President Trump was putting his foot down saying, I need her, I want her released now.
09:50So I guess that was just the public pressure.
09:53Well, and let me just add this.
09:55You see, the governor could have taken measures to have her released there in Colorado.
10:05The part of the case that's not widely understood.
10:09At the point that she was sentenced, there was an immediate ask for an appeal, which is normal.
10:17And because of the bizarre way in which the whole prosecution was handled, there's numerous appealable issues.
10:26And I'll say just as it sits right now, there's no question in my mind or most all of the main legal people looking at the case, that her case will be reversed on appeal.
10:39And so she should have, because of the number of appealable issues, been given bail and the ability to be out on bail while her case is being appealed in the interest of justice.
10:56If it's going to turn out that she wasn't guilty or the prosecution didn't proceed correctly, then why would she be in jail for something that ultimately is going to be overturned?
11:06And so the idea is that, you know, you can have murderers, you can have, you know, huge drug dealers and stuff like that.
11:14They all get out on appeal even after they've been sentenced.
11:19In this case, in this case, the judge would not allow her to be out on bail during the appeal process, which at her age, you know, now seven, every day of life counts.
11:34It's so valuable.
11:36And the appeals take years.
11:39Right.
11:40The judge sentenced her to essentially nine years.
11:44And so she's now over a year into that sentence without allowing her to have, to be out on appeal.
11:56There's been several opportunities for him to do so, and he hasn't changed his mind.
12:01She is a political prisoner.
12:03Yes.
12:03As it's all about the theatrics, the, you know, perplot and things like that.
12:11The governor could have interceded.
12:14None of them wanted to do that because they need her as a villain to make them look, you know, correct in their actions and vilify us as the election people that are, you know, you know, pushing falsity of the 2020 election, things like that.
12:41So, um, when President Trump said he wanted her out now, the problem is it's a state charge, but there's federal issues that are involved here.
12:53And the courts have refused to hear, um, they've been reticent to do anything.
12:58You got a judiciary that, you know, many consider corrupt at the very least.
13:03They're not even handed.
13:05Let's put it that way.
13:07Um, on, on various of these types of issues.
13:10So, um, it now appears that, uh, you know, Trump did the nuclear option today or the people around Trump over at the Senate and, uh, Trump has 150 appointees for office.
13:30We're, we're now nine months into this administration and he still has 150 people that have not, uh, been heard, uh, and their cases move forward to put them into these various offices.
13:45It's insane.
13:46It's insane.
13:47How can he govern when he can't get his people in office and the Senate's blocking it?
13:52So finally today, they decided to pull the nuclear option and, uh, fast track a lot of these appointments.
13:59So he can get on with, with, you know, the business of the country being business and, uh, uh, done with the bullshit, you know, forget the bullshit, kill the bull, the steep state bull.
14:14Now it's the same thing here in Tina's case.
14:17They've tried and tried and tried and tried to use a judicial procedure that in any normal case would easily have prevailed.
14:29She's not a threat to society.
14:31You know, Tina has never even gotten a parking ticket in her whole life, not even a parking ticket.
14:39Shoot.
14:39I don't know which month I didn't get a parking ticket in.
14:42Uh, Tina has never even made that tiny mistake.
14:45She's never had a ticket.
14:47Can you imagine that?
14:48And they got her locked up like she's, uh, you know, Al Capone, um, on the principle with the, uh, and even the stuff, you know, she wasn't, uh, uh, convicted for making the images of the, uh, vote machine.
15:06Um, that was actually in her lawful right to do, uh, was other, um, process stuff they did to get her.
15:13So, um, she, uh, she, uh, she's a pretty straight arrow player and then they, but they got to lock her up with all the murderers and other criminals and gold star mom.
15:33No matter.
15:34Right.
15:34Well, let me add this.
15:37See, in a women's prison, they don't, um, break up the prisoner and segregate them by the severity of their crimes.
15:49In men's prison, you have different tiers and the less dangerous are kept a little more isolated and the more dangerous are isolated from the general population and, uh, people doing the longer terms.
16:04Uh, and the women's prison is just one big hodgepodge and on several occasions, uh, women who are seeking some kind of favor name for themselves, knowing Tina is not liked by the current Colorado administration have made all sorts of vicious threats.
16:23To, uh, to, uh, you know, these are people, uh, the one gal that she was forced to be in a room with, uh, her previous roommate, she broke her face up so badly that, you know, she required several surgeries and, uh, was threatening that she was going to rearrange Tina's face.
16:45It's the same way.
16:47And then they put her in that person's cell.
16:50Wow.
16:51To share a cell with that person.
16:53Uh, and she was laughing about it.
16:55It was only a matter of time.
16:56Just close your eyes.
16:57Uh, you'll wake up a different person.
16:59Okay.
17:00That kind of stuff.
17:01Um, and we had to, and, and, and even recorded, while Tina's on the phone to the outside, recorded people making threats against Tina.
17:12That's how bad it was.
17:13Uh, and the, uh, uh, you know, jail was not happy about that, but they also weren't reacting to the threats.
17:23Mm-hmm.
17:25Yeah, that is, that's sad.
17:27It'll be a great day when she gets out.
17:30Uh, no, no question about it.
17:32And, um, but you think timing on, um, the, we, we were at one point where it's helping that the, the Serbia and all, all the evidence would, would come out, um, you know,
17:43in October or so to give it time to get people to replace and go to paper ballots by 2026.
17:49Is that a long shot now or is that still feasible?
17:52No.
17:53Um, um, there's a lot to play, you know, Trump can't tell the states how to conduct their state, um, elections.
18:06Right.
18:07But.
18:08They can't control the federal.
18:15Right.
18:16And if the states want to run a less secure election parallel for the state positions, um, that doesn't change the fact that Trump can order how the federal elections are run.
18:31Right.
18:32And control federal money used for the election.
18:36Mm-hmm.
18:37Um, one of the more bizarre things that is out there, I don't know that it'll happen, but it isn't, um, impossible.
18:49Uh, our elections didn't used to be held in November.
18:53You know, November, the first Tuesday of November, um, after the full moon or whatever it is, that's how it's done.
19:04It's called the, um, uh, blood moon, harvest moon, uh, slaughter moon, because in the, uh, farmer's almanac and in the old occult ways of, of viewing things,
19:22that date, that Tuesday was always the slaughter day.
19:28Those animals that you weren't going to keep through the winter, um, were fattened up, prepared, and then they were sacrificed on that date.
19:40They were harvested on that date and, uh, the meat preserved and put up for the rest of the winter.
19:47Uh, so we hold our elections in the fall.
19:52On an occult date built around, um, you know, uh, a slaughter.
20:01As though that's just normal.
20:03Wow.
20:04Now, the original date that we held our elections was in March.
20:12I think it was March 4th.
20:13Mm-hmm.
20:13Um, and, uh, so there's an argument, you know, to switch back to the original date, and that might make a lot of sense.
20:23Um, it also has to do with the fact that, uh, it'd be a lot closer to, uh, tax day.
20:30Uh, if you can continue a federal income tax like we have, might affect how people vote if you voted a lot closer to tax day, don't you think?
20:42Yeah.
20:43Yeah.
20:46So, um, in an executive decision, emergency, if we weren't able to secure a safe, uh, vote for November of 2026,
21:03uh, for all sorts of national emergency reasons, et cetera, uh, it's not inconceivable that it would be delayed, pushed back, um, and maybe separated from the, uh, state votes, et cetera.
21:19Um, uh, in order to get to a secure vote, we don't want to have an insecure vote.
21:26And there's all sorts of interesting things around that subject matter.
21:31Wow.
21:31I hadn't even thought about that, about changing the dates of, uh, the federal election.
21:36So.
21:37If you can't have a fair election and guarantee that it's a true and accurate, you can't proceed.
21:44Makes, makes sense.
21:46Makes, makes a lot of sense.
21:48Well, well, Juan, I think you knew Charlie Cook pretty well.
21:52Um, can you give us some of your thoughts on, uh, on this sad situation and what it might mean?
22:00Well, I was an early adopter, a big supporter of Charlie back when he was trying to get going.
22:08And, uh, so I was in the low six figures of support for him.
22:16And the reason I even mentioned that is because it wasn't just a passing thing for me.
22:24That was a major, um, push, but because of his, uh, faith, the willingness to speak about, uh, faith issues, uh, his Christianity.
22:41And to push that forward in the public sphere, I felt, uh, it was very important to, uh, you know, support someone, shoulder up with them.
22:53And it was going to make a huge difference.
22:57And I will add, you know, uh, I don't know, last year, last spring or something, there was a particular issue that was coming up that they were pushing.
23:06And I didn't do anything publicly, but behind the scenes, uh, I had made a kind of a big push with Charlie that, and the people around them, that they were pushing an angle on the early vote that I didn't think was correct.
23:23And that had great peril in it.
23:27And so, um, I had, um, you know, behind the scenes, I was, that was, you know, I guess, annoyed, but I will say this never changed my attitude toward it or the work that he's doing.
23:45Um, we can agree to disagree, and yet the work he was doing on campuses and with young people and, uh, the message that he was bringing, absolutely stellar, absolutely first rate.
24:01Um, so even people that are out doing, you know, lots of heavy lifting can have disagreements and, uh, still be great allies, uh, still enjoy each other's company.
24:14Um, uh, it was never, ever, and I never let it be, a question of, uh, brethren, willingness, support, shoulder up a ton.
24:28Um, and, uh, he was so good at articulating certain ideas and themes that are things that I really like myself.
24:42I think what most people will find over the next days, weeks, months, years, they will keep pulling out clips of things that Charlie had to say that are so, uh, strident, so precise, so, uh, all encapsulating of a thought and idea, something needed that we need to hear.
25:09Uh, he was amazing at articulating things in a concise, precise way.
25:17Yes.
25:18And you're going to hear that over and over again.
25:21You'll realize, um, he wasn't being as widely heard as I would have liked to.
25:27He was heard within a younger crowd.
25:28But over time, uh, his art, um, the beauty of his, uh, presentations, his verbal messages, his art, um, will be even many, many, many, many, many times more impacting and, and favored and, uh, passed around.
25:58Than ever it was during his lifetime.
26:01Great artists aren't fully appreciated until after they're gone.
26:04Right.
26:05Right.
26:07This is why if the, if the deep state tried to do this because of the 2026 election, trying to win the house, this could actually backfire on them pretty heavily.
26:15Well, it already has, um, you know, yesterday after he was, uh, pronounced dead, um, there was a resolution put in before the house to have one minute of silence, um, in honor of Charlie Kirk.
26:41The Democrats screamed and ranted the venom, the vitriol, um, that they spewed out protesting a minute of silence for, uh, an American, uh, so visibly publicly, um, uh, brought down in the prime of his life.
27:08Um, um, I think had it been most anybody else, they'd have allowed it, but it was because of his message and, uh, they just could not allow it to happen.
27:26Um, there's a certain point where they, they reach too far and even people that may not have agreed with Charlie Kirk could have, uh, stood down for a moment because it's not just that he was murdered, but something happened to America.
27:48It was an attack on free speech in America.
27:52Uh, we all were afflicted, damaged, hurt by something that was done in the public square that cannot be allowed to stand and, uh, or repeated.
28:10When the Democrats couldn't, um, ease up on the vitriol rhetoric and everything else just for one minute, that told you everything about who we're working and dealing and interacting against.
28:28It's, it's, it's the same spirit as it gives Tina Peters, where you can't have the opportunity to even reason together.
28:42You know, um, just before he was assassinated, he had asked for anybody in the crowd that, you know, disagreed with them that, you know, had a problem with stuff he was saying.
28:57to be allowed to go to the front of the line and then he'd answer their questions he wasn't afraid
29:03of the conversation right um you know the scripture come let us reason together um
29:10and have a conversation that's what he was doing he wasn't pushing anybody away and even if their
29:17ideas their concerns their viewpoints differed wildly with his he was there open that's why he
29:27was so vulnerable he made himself vulnerable to engage with people to have conversations that
29:34aren't easy but are necessary or needed and so um he he's a reasonable person reasoning with other
29:47people giving him a moment to think again and so the hate that he was experienced and experienced
29:55yesterday isn't just a hate for him or his message it's a hate for god himself those who
30:01hate truth hate god those who hate justice hate god those who hate beauty hate god and
30:15this act was demonic satan himself up a tearing individuals to to this horrendous thing
30:25um to stop people from having an honest conversation from reasoning together to
30:32uh um act in a heavenly way not a hellish way
30:37that make sense yes that's very well said and that i just love that one uh one isaiah
30:47isaiah 118 talking about come let us reason together i says i love that
30:53gus has put a scripture up as well about uh uh none should perish and then i show one timothy
31:01two three and four it talks about in the sight of our god our savior who desires all people to be saved
31:05so i just want to thank you for always coming back to the word of god which is so important and
31:10charlie did that all the time he did didn't he he was a he was a he was a man on fire for the lord
31:16he was um he was unabashed about his faith and america's history as a nation of people
31:31who came here on the basis of our faith to establish this country and uh uh you know the first 13
31:48colonies all required that you had to um profess your faith in uh uh uh
32:01christ as the great judge of the world uh and uh before you could hold public office
32:11um which is a big deal and a lot of these standards have been lost away from what we were called a
32:19christian country um uh well before we had a constitution by the way so he had a way of
32:28presenting just an amazing sequence of uh parts and pieces of history to help people to understand
32:34we are a nation of believers that's our origins and that's what we're going back to god himself
32:41is bringing that to pass yeah i really believe that i really believe that is is happening um
32:47and uh you talk about the near-death experience um the lord's told me that the chaos is actually
32:54going to get worse before it gets better still i just don't know when that tipping point is but do
32:58you agree with that well we've already passed the tipping point
33:04that's why these people are getting so desperate
33:09in fact guerrilla actions against individuals like what you just saw with the assassination
33:17of charlie kirk um are the la the next to the last stop and then you have huge public actions
33:30against large blocks of people uh you know the public event uh uh the major city other things like
33:40that because they have to try to silence us from being able to speak and so we're at the next to
33:47the last stop in this attempt to overthrow the country and it's already changing direction so
33:53they're becoming more desperate by the moment things like the freeing of tina peters will be understood
34:00as exactly it is um we're going a different direction their plans have failed their uh devices
34:10are coming unraveled and then the arrests of many of their key players and then uh several years of
34:18prosecutions um
34:20their control in the article three courts not being sufficient because we go to non-article three
34:30courts justice will be done justice will be served god will not be mocked god's people
34:37will not be mocked and uh but there is a there is a still a dark night ahead for us all and uh it will
34:47be a coalescing moment for us as a nation we're retaking the ship of state of america from pirates who
34:54have hijacked it through false elections and then the laws that follow we will um prevail and are
35:04prevailing and justice is coming remember in esther it's not just that haman was hung on the haman's
35:14device of his own design it's that the war that he got into place right when it actually occurred
35:24god's people won they were able to make alliances and they yes it was a day that they did not ask for
35:31did not seek who was forced upon them was forced upon them as lincoln said uh with the civil war
35:39but we will not shirk from our duties
35:44we have to carry through in this fight and
35:52if in our ranks one is knocked down we step forward we shoulder together we close that gap
36:03and we keep going and charlie is now in the uh stadium of witnesses
36:12um he's no longer able to interact directly in this world except by his legacy but he's cheering us on
36:23he is in that stadium of witnesses to see how we take
36:28what god gave us through his service and take it to new heights and to do amazing beautiful exciting
36:41things and we will it's going to be stunning um nothing got slowed down nothing got stopped
36:48uh we will move forward uh a pace and um we're winning this war we will win this war we've already won
36:58it we're at this boomerang moment i think we will likely look at this moment
37:04as the apex of the turning of that boomerang in flight and this return back to certain values certain
37:15understandments that the devil and his crew the demons who sought to silence um this clarion super clear
37:25uh bell uh bell in our society bringing out the light of this
37:32um generation uh the lamps that charlie helped fill with oil
37:41uh and light the the wick light the fuse will bill burn more clearly than any have
37:50all the way back to the pilgrims and charlie has a place in that he's a neon light
37:54in this portion of our nation's history and i'm very very very very excited about what comes next
38:02um i think we do have a dark night ahead certain things are in play it's very uh
38:10scary at one level and yet if you're a person of faith
38:15um was charlie afraid of the assassin's bullets
38:22no was he aware there was danger they had security
38:26there was university security there was security around him
38:30um we all know the the dangers
38:35and yet he powered forward anyway he would not allow
38:39that he be silenced or intimidated not to speak out of fear
38:44and uh uh we're all charlie at this point
38:49um we're all not backing down that's what this moment's about
38:54yes yes hey just one we just want to two or three people that want to uh lift you up real quick uh
38:59one and besides your cough anything else that comes to mind that we can lift up
39:04um well there is
39:08some fairly huge things actually there was an appointment
39:12with one of the senators and president trump that was supposed to take place tomorrow
39:17on a matter that uh i'm deeply involved in
39:22and i think that's going to end up getting pushed off because of the events yesterday and um
39:30it'll probably happen sometime next week but
39:33stuff that really has reached every listener out here and to
39:39a number of legal things that are in play so um
39:43you know we pray for favor for important things that we're doing
39:49and uh also to president trump there's so many
39:53things that pull on every second of his time
39:57and you know uh think of how close president trump came to the assassin
40:04succeeding and then to have somebody who was a very very close ally
40:10uh you know charlie kirk and and don jr
40:13extremely close
40:15uh work together very hard and others around them
40:20as charlie was building out his um uh turning point operations and reaching out to the young people
40:32and uh something like this affects you in ways that are hard even to articulate
40:38um it makes it all fresh again and reminds you that you know in in charlie's case
40:48he burned very hot very bright only now do we realize
40:56that was necessary because he only had a limited amount of time
41:03and he did exactly what he was supposed to do
41:06did it with flair style flourish um
41:09uh and we thank god almighty in this heaven for that
41:14those of us that are left including people like president trump
41:19and his sons uh those of us who continue the labor
41:23it does affect you
41:26um
41:27it makes us
41:30cognizant of our own
41:33fragility
41:33and uh pray for
41:37president trump and his family
41:39and their resolve
41:40and their resolve
41:40to power forward
41:42in spite of something like this
41:44uh
41:45no looking back
41:47uh hand of the plow
41:49straight lines
41:51awesome awesome
41:55you
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