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As the guitarist in Greta Van Fleet, Jake Kiszka has helped make classic rock a stadium-filling affair for a new generation. Now however, the 29-year-old musician is taking a different tack with new band Mirador alongside Ida Mae guitarist Chris Turpin.

We caught up with Jake in London to talk through what makes Mirador different to his regular job, how his Gibson Les Paul is so worn and battered the Gibson Custom Shop said they'd have to invent a new level of ageing to replicate it, and why his brand new Mirador Martin guitar had to be finished by Martin CEO Chris Martin IV himself…

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00:00Hey, I'm Jake Kiska here with guitar.com, and this is My Guitars and Me.
00:13So when Greta left Michigan many many years ago, we'd stopped at Chicago Music Exchange because a
00:20manager was friends with the owner there, and I was looking around at everything, all the guitars that were there,
00:26and the owner said, well, try this one, you know, based on everything that I was really into at the time,
00:34and I plugged it in, and it was one of those moments of absolute divine intervention. It was just like,
00:40you know, just the lightning split from the sky, and it was really unbelievable. It was like everything
00:47that I've been looking for sonically in a guitar, everything in a guitar that I've been looking for my
00:52whole life was right here, and I was like, so I was like, okay, perfect. Well, now the guitar is like
00:5825,000 USD, so, and he let me take the guitar, you know, he's like, you can take this guitar,
01:04go tour with it, and then when you can afford it, you pay me back for it. So it was incredible on him
01:10for letting me do that, and I've obviously had it ever since, this 1961 Les Paul, technically.
01:16There's a piece of me in this guitar, but there's also a piece of this guitar in me, so it's like,
01:21in reality, a lot of my playing and the way that I've developed playing have actually come from the,
01:27this very specific instrument itself. Like, in reality, as much as I'd like to take all of the
01:32credit for, from, from my guitar playing and all of that stuff, a fair share of that's been this
01:38instrument itself, sort of in influencing the way that I approach it. So that's why I've, you know,
01:44maintained that this guitar, I've, I've really, I've hung on to it because, um, I guess we've got
01:50sort of a shared sort of chemistry at this point.
01:53It was just such a blast to go between these two roles. I was playing in some ways, you know,
02:12as a pure guitar player in Greta, and, and somewhat of a frontman vocalist and guitar player in Mirador,
02:17but, you know, to, to be stood up there with, you know, my brothers in many respects of both sides of that,
02:23a difference in chemistry between the two, that was immediate, was like, okay, this isn't, you know,
02:27Greta band, this is a completely different band. So with the Mirador stuff, there's a lot of sort of
02:33traditional and ancient pre-historical English folk music and European folk music and, and Romani, you know,
02:40gypsy music and there's so much of that, that kind of becomes part of the thread of, of the narrative,
02:47which is quite interesting.
02:52There's no way I could part with this. I'll probably be buried with it.
02:56It looks kind of quite new when I got it originally, but this is, yeah, this is all this sort of sweat and
03:03of these gouges. This is what happens when you start wearing rhinestones on, on suits with no jacket over them.
03:12And this is what my nipples have done.
03:14No, it's, it's completely ridiculous. Hacked apart. Looks like a cutting board, doesn't it?
03:20But it still sounds good. It's a lot lighter than when I got it originally.
03:23That's interesting.
03:24Yeah, I've sanded it away. You see that?
03:26No, yeah, it's, it's definitely taken a lot of wear from, from my suits.
03:31Yeah. What's interesting is Gibson will have to invent an entirely new specification of aging level to do guitar that,
03:39that as this level of aging and, and sell it would be essentially selling half of a fraction of a guitar for a certain price
03:47that I'm not sure someone would be willing to buy half of a guitar or whatever.
03:51So I wanted to find something that, that could be sort of a guitar that would be the Mirador Acoustic.
04:03And I went to Gibson and I went to tons of people in the, you know, to do something specifically with certain types of inlies,
04:09obviously in the cool bits, which is this, you know, the Mirador M.
04:13I went to Martin and asked if they could do it and they said, yes.
04:25We went to them and kind of designed these 0028s.
04:29Um, and I wanted them aged, you know, because it's sort of like, you know, sort of looks like a Renaissance guitar with a slotted headstop.
04:37I'm like, like, could you guys build me a pirate guitar?
04:41This is what they came up with, which is quite brilliant.
04:44And there was a certain level of aging that I had in mind that, yes, this can be done.
04:48But the, they came back, I think four times and they're like, are you sure you want it more?
04:53You know, Tim Chris and I said, yes, we want more aging.
04:57And so Chris Martin himself had to come in and finish aging these.
05:02I've looked for another black 0028 like this.
05:06I cannot find one.
05:07I think we, these are literally the only two on the face of the earth, which is quite cool.
05:14I kind of ran into the Martin thing.
05:19I was playing with Greta.
05:21We're trying to find a 12 string at last minute sort of production rehearsals.
05:25And it was crazy.
05:26And, and, and someone had a Martin 12 string lying around.
05:29I was like, well, you try this, you know, like carve it up, put in a pickup in so that we can get it going.
05:34And I really fell in love with it.
05:35Martin's acoustics is one whole thing, but it's certainly between, let's say the equivalent, Gibson equivalent to like the parlor style.
05:43Let's say L double zero and double O 28.
05:47This is a bit more, it's like the Vogue on those two, you know, it's sort of, it's a bit more refined in some ways.
05:55That, that was kind of a step into this sort of like, it's a direction of sort of writing in the performance style.
06:02It became a bit more polished maybe.
06:05For the balladeering stuff, for the sort of like that, those types of really big, romantic, open, vista type of songs and that type of writing.
06:14This came in handy like incredibly well, but I really enjoy playing this.
06:17And I don't know that I would play it in Greta.
06:19I would, I would only use it in Mirador because it does that thing, you know.
06:31And it took about a year for it to open up.
06:33Like I always thought that was bullshit when I was like coming into playing guitars and it was like, oh, this one takes, it's like a fine one.
06:39You see, it takes, it takes a year to open it, but this one takes a year or whatever.
06:43I was like, yeah, it doesn't really though.
06:44I mean, that does, it totally does.
06:46It's a complete fact.
06:47It's like this after the, over the course of a year completely has changed entirely.
06:53And now it sounds like an old vintage guitar, really dry, really bright, really loud.
07:00And then it's the shit now, but it took, it took a sack, but it's like, yeah, definitely is amazing.
07:09Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the Mirador record coming out in September.
07:39Bye.
07:40Bye.
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