00:00And Sarah, there are calls that climate targets must actually go further and that this isn't enough to stop a global catastrophe.
00:10And this is all according to experts. But the climate conversation has changed a lot under Donald Trump.
00:18You know, he called it a con job at the UN and also a green scam. So are people rolling back a little bit in general?
00:26Yes, I mean, it's drastically changed under Trump. You've had him both times that he served as president withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement and issuing at the UN himself what amounted almost really to a climate denial speech.
00:45He calls it the climate con job, calling scientists stupid.
00:50You know, it was typical Trump not mincing his words, but clearly you've seen that rolling back of efforts to tackle climate change under the Trump administration for a second time.
01:03It has opened up the space a little bit for a leader like China potentially to step in and push the movement forward.
01:13Now, they've committed to this seven to 10 percent cut to greenhouse gas emissions by 2035, I think it was.
01:21I mean, Shane probably knows a little bit more about the climate aspect of this, whether that's achievable or not.
01:27But it's it's an interesting stance that China has taken. Is it simply a jab at the United States, a sort of political power move?
01:38Or do they have the ability and the will here to actually implement this within the timeline that they've set themselves?
01:45Certainly, there's no question that given that you've had Trump and the U.S. taking the stance that they have, which, as I said, essentially amounts to climate change denial in many areas,
01:57whether China is now going to step into that void that the U.S. and president.
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