Join us for an exclusive interview with Lord Rami Ranger, a British-Indian businessman and member of the UK House of Lords, as he shares his perspective on the recent anti-immigration protests rocking the UK. Lord Ranger explains the challenges of balancing open-door policies with rising social tensions, critiques current government immigration policies, and warns of the risks to social cohesion if issues are not addressed urgently.Â
00:00So I have with me Lord Rami Rangir. He is a British Indian businessman and a conservative
00:21politician and the member of House of Lords in UK and he's joining me today to have a discussion
00:26on anti-immigration protests that recently took place in UK. Sir very warm welcome to
00:32Asianet News and thank you so much for speaking with us. Yeah thank you for inviting me. Sir you
00:38yourself have a personal journey as a refugee and as an immigrant in UK. What do you make of
00:45the anti-immigration protests that took place in UK? You know Britain has always been welcoming
00:52country for people who want to come, who want to work hard, realize their dreams and ambitions
00:59and become an asset. So there is no problem there. It has been inviting refugees and people in need
01:06right from the day you can remember. You know lots of people even the Jewish people came. Lots of
01:13people from Africa came you know especially the Ugandan Asian came to this country who were in
01:18trouble. So Britain is an open door policy that you if you generally generally need help Britain
01:25will not refuse. It's a very tolerant country, civilized country and you can see the very fact
01:31the immigrants have done so well that just demonstrate the British sense of fair play and tolerance.
01:38you know prejudice is always you know so we have to ignore the negativity. Having said that in Britain
01:48I've been here 55 years Britain accept diversity, respect diversity and protect diversity through laws.
01:56There are laws of against discrimination of any kind especially against you know race, religion, gender.
02:04So therefore it's a very multicultural country with mosques, temples, gurdwaras, synagogues, churches. So it's all good.
02:14But recently people have found out that they can abuse the hospitality of this great country by just
02:24coming in boats and you know because the process in this country is so long to ensure that no one is at a disadvantage.
02:34And no injustice is not done to anyone. So they come here and they stay for many many years because you know by the time
02:41the people of the process the situation changed you know they have children they have their roots in this country.
02:50So therefore it is now people have had enough the British people that those people who are illegal immigrant
02:58those who are coming through boats by paying the people smugglers to come to this country who know the system
03:05and who can abuse the system. So therefore the moral of the story is that you know the enough is enough
03:12because we do not have enough housing, we do not have enough social services, the facility to cope with influx of so many migrants
03:22coming in unchecked. So therefore the people are and you know some of the migrants are not even integrating.
03:29And you know there are some people who come to this country to make their lives and some people come here to convert you.
03:36And that's why you know people are really fed up that you know you come to this country because this country was successful.
03:44Why do you want to change the institution which has served this country for years and centuries.
03:49So therefore there are wrong kind of immigrants also are bringing this negative response from the locals.
03:58So I think the leaders of the countries from where these people come they will speak to their community
04:06and they will tell them that if you come to this any country you got to abide by the rules you have to live by their standard
04:14and not to change it and you know people resent it. Even I resent you know if somebody was to come and change the United Kingdom
04:20because that is not the country I came to you know. So therefore we have now the reaction of excessive migration
04:31and the welfare system which provides safety net to people and the people have come to abuse it and you know so many of them.
04:41So what do you think what do you make of the government's policy the Labour Party's policy on immigration
04:49because there is a lot of discontent with the policy itself.
04:52Well unfortunately Labour Party has always gained from the migrants you know they come they're struggling
05:00they want to vote for the party which offers them benefit and the Labour Party does offer more benefit
05:06by punishing the risk takers the one who work hard they sacrifice their lives to building their business
05:14and then Labour Party will come and take it claw their you know life saving.
05:21So that's why the Labour Party has been soft with immigrants but now I think the balance has tilted whether you're Labour
05:29whether you're Conservative you can no longer carry on with the policies a few years back because there's a backlash
05:38you know there's a third party emerge. I don't know whether you know about the Reform Party
05:43and they have captured the imagination of people and they really made a huge dent to the Conservative voters
05:51because the Conservative was in power and during their power the immigrants were you know migrants were coming in
05:57a lot of numbers they couldn't and you know politicians also put their own agenda above else because there was a policy to send these people to Rwanda
06:07to have their application process but that then they had these challenges in court Supreme Court the House of Lords
06:15and they stopped that scheme if he was to go ahead I think the Labour is not trying to take it to make a speech
06:24where they will take people to either Albania or some other country but that's the only way because you know you can't bring them to this country
06:31where there's always resentment and that resentment can boil over and people like me who have built up a successful business
06:41and been an asset and contributed a lot to this country ever since I arrived will also be treated in the same manner
06:48I also can have the repercussion like me not just me but there are many people I mean the richest man in the United Kingdom is of course a Hindu just
07:00and then Lakshmi to the sub successful people running businesses very very successful you know we are product of secular democratic country with rule of law at the heart
07:11so we accept their values because they are similar value to our value but there are some people who come with a different value
07:17and they need to change because that value which they were practicing has not brought them success so why come and make us backward to the country you left behind
07:27so I think there's a very big debate going on and I appeal to all the leaders that they have to put the interest of people who are already here
07:36you know who have already worked hard they have demonstrated their loyalty to the king and the country they have become an asset
07:43they should not face the effect of the mass demonstration you know this is very inconvenient and it's frightening to us you know that what is going to happen things can go out of hand
07:58so I was coming to that I mean there is a huge concern about if there will be a risk on diaspora and of course the ethnic minorities who are living in Britain
08:07what sort of political representation we can see in parliament in the coming days will there be anything which will be raised in parliament regarding that to protect these vulnerable people
08:19people 100 percent every politician is of every political party is now listening to the concern because that is why they are in public life
08:31because they want to serve public and if they ignore they ignore the wishes of the people the concerns of the people that could backfire on them and on their party
08:44so therefore it is you know situation is that if you do not nip the evil in the bud then you will encourage more and more people to come openly
08:54and our race religion our social cohesion can be damaged you know beyond repairs and it might take years to repair it but in the in the meantime the damage would have been done
09:05a lot of people will move from this country already people are moving because of high taxes so therefore now because the crime
09:13in united kingdom is also very high because there's so much freedom and a lot of people are leaving because of this also and if people keep on coming you know unchecked or unwetted
09:26they could be criminal they could be gangster they were drug dealers or whatever and that could affect the fabric of this society
09:34so on social media when these anti-immigration protests were taking place on social media there were a lot of commentary which had
09:41an undertone of being xenophobic but at the same time there were some people who were heard saying genuinely showing their concern about how there are a lot of immigrants in certain sectors like labor sector housing sector
09:56uh but at the same time you uk needs to continue to take these immigrants absorb them to progress as a nation
10:03i i agree with you because you know this is a very fair country people also do not want racism to get out of hand
10:11because racism is a cancer you know if because uh if it is not uh checked or controlled or uh then it can really harm the country as a whole
10:23because you know this country is a small country and there's a lot of people from different countries
10:29you know immigrant for nearly 150 countries live here side by side and this is a very diverse country you know very cosmopolitan city
10:37and that can have a negative effect so therefore people have to really take charge the politician and they have to address the concern of the vast majority of people
10:49who are who are now you know speaking very loudly that enough is enough you have to stop these boat people you have to stop these illegal illegal immigrants who are jumping housing queues who are getting benefits and who are getting all sorts of facilities and then the the person like a pensioner who has worked all his life to build this country goes without heating bill uh without heat uh fuel sport for the winter fuel sport so therefore there are a lot of
11:18there are a lot of resentment because people see that these people are given five or not five or three or four star hotel and they get air conditioning 24 7 heating food uh on demand you know everything done for them so therefore you know people are really not amused
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