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Disaster Transbian episode 19
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00:00Is there any reliable information regarding deaths in the Marriott?
00:06Hi everyone, I keep reading conflicting information regarding the victims at the Marriott Hotel.
00:12Were all of their bodies recovered or intact?
00:15I have been reading theories that Sneha may have spent the night of September 10th with someone at the Marriott.
00:22This theory would fill in a lot of holes about the location of her shopping bags and why nobody has heard from her since.
00:30It has been a while since I saw this doc, link below, but if memory serves, there were 50 people who died in the hotel and they were mostly firefighters and some staff.
00:4111 registered guests were unaccounted for, meaning they know who they are.
00:46Even though back then you could pay in cash to book a room, you still can actually.
00:51You had and have to still show ID.
00:54I still believe she was the victim of foul play late on the 10th or early on the 11th.
01:00And has no connection with the hotel either.
01:02Interesting theory though.
01:04But Sneha certainly could have been spending the night there with a person who was the registered guest.
01:10I rented many hotel rooms in my younger wild days with a hookup and the hotel room would be only in my name or else in the name of the person I was with.
01:20Sneha was known to frequently spend the night with women she hooked up with while out at bars.
01:25I think it's a possibility that she was in the Marriott.
01:30There's really no other possibility that's any better in my opinion.
01:34It seems that with Sneha not coming home the night of 9-10-01, odds are that it was because she was doing what she frequently did.
01:43Spending the night with the woman she hooked up with.
01:46I think it's more likely that that's what she was doing that night than it would be that she was doing something else.
01:52So if that's what she did, then where's the most likely place for her to have spent the night that ended up resulting in her disappearing?
02:00I think there's a decent chance that she was at the Marriott.
02:05There's no other option that seems to be any more likely.
02:09I think the chance of her spontaneously running off to start a new life on that very day to be extremely low.
02:16I think it's more likely that she died at the World Trade Center to be higher than the chance of her being randomly murdered on 9-10 with no body or evidence ever turning up.
02:28Many have mentioned that people don't just get murdered in Manhattan and never found.
02:33Where on earth would they hide a body with no one noticing?
02:36I guess that's where grim theories about a killer opportunistically blending in with a crowd that morning, carrying a deceased individual come in.
02:45But that just seems very unlikely.
02:47Wow, I never thought of that.
02:49Oh my god, that'd be fucking nutty.
02:51I once had a police detective friend tell me,
02:53The thing you think is the most likely to have happened, most likely is what happened.
02:59You bring up an excellent point about dead bodies in NYC.
03:02For that reason alone, I think if anything happened to her on 9-11, I think it was at the hotel.
03:09If she was at the hotel, it would explain why the shopping bag of purchases was never found,
03:16and it would explain why anyone she was with never came forward.
03:20I am 50-50 on whether or not the person at Century 21 was with her.
03:25I think sometimes that maybe the witness thought they were together because they looked to be a similar race.
03:31If they were together, why did the person never come forward?
03:34I think either due to shame, as being gay was still a bit stigmatized, or they died on 9-11.
03:43Maybe they were scared they'd get blamed for her death?
03:47I do not think she died going into the towers or by fallen debris.
03:52There were large triage stations set up, so someone would have seen her at one of those.
03:57No one except firemen were going up the stairwells.
04:00There are accounts from survivors who did see a handful of people going back up to rescue people.
04:08For example, the man in the red bandana and Rick Rescorla.
04:12Anyone who was hit by fallen debris was able to be identified.
04:16Pretty much only people who are above the impact are the ones who don't have remains to identify.
04:23Yes, I don't believe any people from at or above the impact zones were identified.
04:30I just have a strong feeling she went to the Marriott the evening of the 10th and was killed along with whomever she was with.
04:37It's the only thing I can make sense of.
04:40But also, why would a random person murder her for no reason?
04:44I think the reason there have been no leads or witnesses for her whereabouts is because whoever she was with probably died that day too.
04:51So there must be other unaccounted for people from that date who matched the type of woman she may have been with.
04:58Has anyone tried to match them up, so to speak?
05:02I think there was one who was attending an Indian American culture event that they thought she might have known.
05:08I believe she was a 9-11 victim.
05:11I agree.
05:11I wish we could get a clearer picture of exactly what her nightlife entailed.
05:16Some seem to say the one-night stands were overblown.
05:20Some agree it was very frequent, which would make sense with her work performance and substance abuse issues.
05:27But we have never really heard directly from those who may have encountered her in her nights out.
05:34I came here to post this.
05:35Thank you for posting it.
05:36I know I had heard and read multiple times that all the Marriott victims were known, if not identified.
05:43It's weird to think, if Sneha was at the WTC Marriott, that was also the last known location of FDNY Lieutenant Scott Davidson,
05:52the father of SNL star and comedian Pete Davidson.
05:57With anything being a possibility with regards to Sneha, I see the Marriott as a plausible last location for her.
06:05It's speculative, but possible, along with the three or four other theories.
06:12Sorry if this has been asked before, but have there been any positively identified remains slash DNA of anyone known to be at the Marriott?
06:22I've been wondering about this, too.
06:23I think it seems the likeliest scenario.
06:26We know Sneha stayed out late or all night frequently and didn't always call home and touch base with her husband.
06:33The Marriott was three blocks from her home, since there is literally no trace of Sneha's movements.
06:39After about 6 p.m. on the 10th, I wonder if she met someone in a prearranged rendezvous at the hotel.
06:46Well, maybe they used fake names on the hotel registry.
06:50That would have been easier to do 22 years ago.
06:53As far as the missing shopping bags, she could have just carried them to the hotel, planning to take them home with her later.
07:00Or they could have contained gifts for the person she met up with.
07:03It could also explain why no one she met with that night ever came forward.
07:10Perhaps they both perished at the hotel.
07:14Some of the deaths at the Marriott involved people who weren't ever positively identified.
07:22It is a viable scenario.
07:25I generally don't believe she's a 9-11 victim.
07:27According to John Walczak, nobody outside of her family, and I'd argue her family, and Ron privately, believe she's not a 9-11 victim.
07:38But I think the Marriott theory has some merit.
07:40The only thing is, who did she stay with?
07:43Did they also die?
07:44And if they died, were their remains also incinerated?
07:48That seems statistically unlikely.
07:50But then again, all of these theories require some hoops to jump through.
07:54That's the biggest missing puzzle piece.
07:58Why has no one who saw her the night of the 10th ever come forward?
08:02It's the one single thing that stops me from thinking she either escaped to somewhere else that night, or died in some other fashion.
08:10Everything else would have me believe she intentionally went missing.
08:14Or maybe an untimely death some other way.
08:17Her life was unraveling.
08:18She'd been let go from her residency at one hospital, and her new position was at risk.
08:23She apparently had substance abuse problems, and possibly mental health issues.
08:29Sadly, it does seem entirely possible that her disappearance could have had nothing to do with any of those.
08:36But statistically, almost every single victim probably had job issues.
08:41Substance abuse, mental health issues, family issues, secrets, lies, affairs, etc.
08:48Pretty much every adult has something.
08:51We know all 9-11 victims were real people, each with real adult life problems of their own, yet died in a terrorist attack, just as Naya could have too.
09:01A little off topic, but it's always been wild to me how exact the number of people killed on 9-11 is.
09:12When you think about it, there had to have been people in the buildings that day that never told anyone they were going there.
09:19And I've always wondered how that was dealt with.
09:21If someone in and around New York City was reported missing after 9-11, was it just automatically assumed they were in the towers if it was probable enough?
09:32Or is Naya the singular individual that falls into the situation?
09:37I think her and Juan La Fuente are the only people who fall into the situation.
09:41Although La Fuente's body was never found, his MetroCard showed he used it to get down to Lower Manhattan on the morning of 9-11, and he supposedly told people he was going to be late to work.
09:56The Risk Waters Conference at Windows of the World is likely where he was heading, because he was known for being exceptionally frugal, and that area of expertise was what he worked in.
10:08You have to remember that 9-11 happened early in the morning on a Tuesday.
10:14Since it was September, tourists were not known to hang around that area much, especially since the touristy highlights were not open.
10:24Windows of the World was open, but it was hosting a conference, and it was early enough on a weekday that tourists were not flocking there.
10:32Right, there is also at least one case of an undocumented immigrant who may have been a victim of 9-11.
10:41I can't recall the name, but he called his mother in Mexico shortly before 9-11, explaining he had gotten a new job in the towers.
10:50Was not heard from after the attacks.
10:52I bet he was not the only undocumented worker to die in the attacks.
10:56I think he mentioned getting a job as a delivery driver at a pizza place, not at the towers, but it's suspected he still may have been a victim, because he was so consistent at calling his mother every few days.
11:11I think it's highly likely that there's at least one person we don't and can't know about.
11:18No one knows they were missing, and no one submitted DNA.
11:22I wish their souls peace and their names remembered, even if their friends don't know they were there.
11:28Surely there were some undocumented people who no one knew their whereabouts.
11:33Possibly even their families have no idea what befell them to this day.
11:37May they be at peace.
11:38Didn't you have to have a visitor pass to go up?
11:43I wish someone would answer this.
11:45I find it improbable to a degree that she would go and visit her affair partner at work, particularly on a Tuesday in the early morning.
11:55I was thinking she was in the towers, too.
11:57Perhaps she was in the restaurant at the top for breakfast.
12:00The fatality number is just the number of people accounted for who died.
12:05Yes, there were people there that no one they knew knew they were there.
12:10That probably could have been worded better.
12:12Usually loved ones would report them missing, and DNA would be matched.
12:17There are still unmatched human remains to this day.
12:21I thought about this, too.
12:22It's possible she may have been in the towers with her girlfriend at the impact zone, and they both died.
12:27Died, possibly, but yes, she was unofficially clumped with the 9-11 fatalities.
12:33She could have spent the night somewhere, most likely at the home of whoever she was hanging out with.
12:40That person also surely worked in the towers, and she went up to their office with them when the planes hit.
12:46Maybe they worked at Windows of the World, and Sneha went up to visit them at the very worst moment.
12:53She could have been on her way up in an elevator right when the plane hit.
12:57If that's the case, no one will ever know.
13:00This could explain the missing shopping bags as well, if they were left at the friend-slash-lover's apartment.
13:07She and this friend or lover could have then both been killed at the World Trade Center.
13:13Sneha had in fact mentioned to her mother the day of the 10th that she was planning to visit Windows of the World soon.
13:21Yes, she could have been visiting the friend at Windows of the World, or at an office.
13:28Either way, those bags are gone in the rubble.
13:31I think it's extremely unlikely that Sneha perished in the Marriott, as almost everyone was successfully evacuated.
13:40The only known deaths were firefighters and a couple of hotel employees who were trying to make sure everyone else was out.
13:46From the FEMA report, all of the building's occupants were evacuated below from the building.
13:53However, two members of the hotel management team had each re-entered the building to check on the safety of guests and firefighters,
14:01and incurred fatal injuries on the guest room floors upon collapse of WTC2.
14:06From routers, an estimated 50 people died in the Marriott World Trade Center on 9-11, a fraction of that day's 2,996 death toll.
14:19Most of the Marriott deaths were firefighters, though 11 registered guests remain unaccounted for.
14:26It's unclear whether they died in the hotel or elsewhere in the towers.
14:30Knowing this, and inferring all the bodies recovered from the hotel were identifiable or intact, makes me believe she didn't perish at the hotel.
14:42It can be assumed then that the 11 unaccounted for guests died in the towers, assuming that they were staying at the hotel because they were doing business at the WTC.
14:53I looked into the possibility of the Marriott in conjunction with Snail's case.
14:59The entire hotel was fully booked, in part to an economics conference.
15:05At least 250 guests were there just for the economics conference.
15:11Some brought their spouses along for the trip.
15:13One patron, source, the book, Hotel 9-11, was a man who lived a few blocks from the Marriott and was there that morning due to gym and pool membership.
15:25He was using the gym and had just changed into swimwear to go into the pool when the landing gear of one of the planes came through the hotel ceiling directly onto the pool on the top floor.
15:37The book isn't particularly well-structured, and it's very repetitive.
15:42However, from an analytical point of view, the repetition is useful.
15:46It gives a really comprehensive overview of what it was like in the Marriott on September 10th and 11th.
15:54My conclusion?
15:55One, it's hugely unlikely that she stayed in the Marriott on 9-10, or two, died on the premises of the Marriott.
16:03The hotel itself was destroyed, but any victims that we know of dying on the premises, their remains, were recoverable.
16:13The book only mentions three registered guests who died, by name, but it's widely accepted that 11 registered guests died.
16:23One patron had a regular weekly standing arrangement with the hotel, as she visited NYC Weekly for a business project.
16:30On the evening of 9-10, she checked in to be told the room she had pre-booked the prior week had to be re-designated to another guest, an attorney, whose case had run longer than expected.
16:45That in particular emphasized the point of how the hotel was truly booked to capacity.
16:50Capacity. Add to that the numbers of spouses accompanying the conference attendees.
16:57Many of those spouses were able to just people-watch, chill out at the coffee bar, go to the gym or pool.
17:04Even if Sneha had been a guest of someone who'd pre-booked at the hotel, likely weeks in advance,
17:10she would still have been seen by someone, whether it was hotel staff, another guest, etc.
17:18I sincerely believe it would not have been possible for Sneha to walk in off the street on the evening of 9-10 and on a whim book a room at the Marriott.
17:28Which, in a way, I was disappointed to learn, because for a long time, I believed that the Marriott was a viable theory in Sneha's case.
17:38Goddamn, right?
17:39Thank you for this.
17:40I guess Sneha could have possibly run into someone who was staying at the hotel and then stayed the night there without being seen by other guests
17:48and early for the next morning went to windows of the world, but I think that's fairly unlikely.
17:55Occam's Razor.
17:56If you're unfamiliar, Occam's Razor is the principal that recommends the simplest solution to a problem.
18:03That is, where multiple answers are possible, the simplest is likely true and or most effective.
18:09Apply it in Dr. Phillips' case.
18:12Many well-intentioned people have been taken in by the podcast.
18:15They forget that podcasting is a business, and it's in the podcaster's interest to raise enough questions to make the thing go viral.
18:25People enjoy playing Sherlock Holmes or psychiatrist or concocting romantic scenarios.
18:30This is how the true crime industry perpetuates itself.
18:34Let's stick to the facts.
18:36Dr. Phillips was a troubled woman who was apparently, circumstantially, having an affair.
18:41She left her apartment on September 10th and never returned.
18:46At 8.45 on September 11th, the woman, fitting her general description, entered her building's lobby.
18:52While waiting for the elevator, the woman suddenly goes to a door at 8.46.
18:57Surely in response to Flight 11 hitting the North Tower two blocks away, the woman goes to the street, disappears.
19:04What's more plausible?
19:08One, faced with unprecedented disaster, Dr. Phillips had the presence of mind to disappear with a lover.
19:16She never touched the American Express card in her pocket, her only financial means, and had no use for the passport in her apartment.
19:24She somehow, and with no warning, acquired a new birth certificate and social security number.
19:30Today, she lives quietly under a new identity, either with forged medical credentials or working in an unrelated occupation.
19:39Two, Dr. Phillips was abducted by a stranger in Manhattan or presumably Brooklyn.
19:45There were no witnesses.
19:46Three, Dr. Phillips was abducted by family or people acting for her family.
19:51They somehow knew her whereabouts when no one else did.
19:56Four, Dr. Phillips is the woman in the CCTV footage.
20:00As a physician, she tried to render aid at the World Trade Center.
20:03She died there.
20:05Likely 40% of victims' remains here have never been identified.
20:10Some answers.
20:11One, so implausible as to be absurd.
20:14In the digital age, it's almost impossible to self-engineer disappearance.
20:19And anyone who gets close needs a lot of preparation.
20:23They need the means to leave the country and or live below the radar in shelters, hostels, etc., working for cash.
20:31Two, preferred by people who think NYC is dangerous.
20:35It wasn't in 2001, and it's not now.
20:39It's also cramped and active.
20:41In public, it's nearly impossible to avoid witnesses.
20:44And anything done in private will get found out soon enough.
20:49There's always a nosy neighbor, landlord, superintendent, or new tenant asking questions.
20:56Three, making people disappear, or paying for it, is almost more difficult than dropping off the grid yourself.
21:04You may think the movies taught you how to dispose of a body, but they didn't.
21:08It's hard to find a discreet person with those skills, too.
21:12I guarantee Dr. Phillip's brother had his phone and bank records searched.
21:18Which leaves us with four.
21:19Troubled as she was, it's easiest to see Dr. Phillip as a good doctor who ran towards the problem.
21:26Anyone who thinks physicians run to hospitals in a crisis hasn't met any physicians.
21:31I know a lot, and haven't watched them drop everything to intervene, even without tools or medicine.
21:37Dr. Phillip didn't have to enter the World Trade Center to die there.
21:42Many were killed in the street.
21:43She didn't even have to be there long.
21:46In five minutes, she would have been on the plaza, which was full of dead and injured.
21:51It's plausible she was killed by raining debris, and her body obliterated, like many others.
21:56I think you're understanding how many people see things, and just never mention it.
22:03Either because it didn't register to them as unusual, they were too preoccupied with something else,
22:09they didn't want to become involved, their memory didn't cache it for whatever reason, etc, etc, etc.
22:15The human memory is faulty, and no two people experience or remember the same event in the same way,
22:21especially after an event as life-changing and chaotic as NYC on 9-11 and its immediate aftermath.
22:30You wouldn't think about something you saw on, for example, September 10th?
22:35That wouldn't even be on your mind.
22:37Eyewitnesses are infamously unreliable.
22:39For example, years ago, I was sexually assaulted in a very public area in one of the most populated cities in the world.
22:48There were so many people who witnessed it.
22:50Not only did, one, no one intervene, but two, eyewitnesses recalled it so many different ways,
22:57despite seeing the same thing.
22:59Luckily, it was caught on CCTV, and it's an excellent example of how vastly different recollections can be,
23:06and also how something obviously wrong could be happening, yet no one intervenes to stop it.
23:13Wouldn't Occam's razor be that she simply disappeared or died on the 10th after her last-known sighting in NYC
23:20and had nothing to do with 9-11?
23:22First of all, nobody was casually walking into the towers after a fucking plane hit them,
23:28except firefighters and police officers.
23:31There were several officers that pushed people back away from the area.
23:36As another person mentioned, if she wanted help, she would have been at one of those medical stations set up,
23:42or the hospital she worked at.
23:44There were hundreds of people needing hospitalization and not enough staff.
23:49A doctor without their tools and medicine is like a bird without their wings.
23:53What exactly would she do on the field that a firefighter doesn't already know?
23:57Doctors aren't usually trained for field work, unless they want to be in the military or something.
24:04Lots of doctors actually went to their hospitals after finding out about the commotion to be ready to assist,
24:10assuming there would be lots of people in there.
24:13I think you missed the entire point of the post.
24:15How is her suddenly dying, disappearing?
24:18A simple answer.
24:19OP laid out all the variables.
24:21That made a total disappearance very unlikely and complicated.
24:26I think if she did get a way to start a new life, she didn't live much longer after.
24:31The chaos of trying to keep up the lie can lead to some risky choices that can put your life in danger.
24:37I still think the most realistic theory is something happened the night before.
24:42And whoever did it got really lucky.
24:46Do we know where the whereabouts of her family or husband were on 9-10?
24:51It's been a while since I listened to Missing on 9-11,
24:54so I can't remember if we had any information that was corroborated.
24:58I don't think I could apply Occam's razor without that information.
25:02I would like some more information on this, too.
25:05I believe the family knows more than they have let on.
25:08I especially find her brother suspicious.
25:11Between the whole thing with Sneha and his fiancée,
25:14but also how he jumped into the 9-11 narrative.
25:18One could look at his lying as a desperate brother trying to get eyes on his sister's story,
25:24or suspiciously pointing away from him or the family.
25:28I think her brother was doing it for media attention.
25:31The family did not initially believe Sneha died in the towers until long after 9-11.
25:38If her brother was involved in Sneha's disappearance or possible death,
25:42he would have continued to lie about Sneha calling from the towers instead of backtracking.
25:47I understand people's criticism and suspicions regarding her family,
25:54since they really do appear to be in denial about her worrying and behavior leading up to her disappearance,
26:00but I honestly think this criticism is a red herring.
26:04They appear to be more or less a grieving family trying to safeguard her reputation.
26:09Her family may know a bit more than they claim,
26:13but I've always been skeptical of their involvement in her disappearance or possible death,
26:18given that Sneha's brother, John, spoke to John Waltzak for four hours in person,
26:23where any of the family were involved.
26:26I don't believe he would have done that.
26:28I honestly think that the family were doing their best to protect Sneha's reputation.
26:32The family also appears to still be very close with Lauren,
26:37which makes me even less likely to believe they have done something sinister.
26:42That's true, and yes, I can totally understand a family wanting to protect her reputation,
26:47as she was being portrayed poorly in the media.
26:50But it also seems like the brother lied to John's face, though.
26:54I forget which point it was on.
26:56It's been a while since I listened to the podcast.
26:59He also admits to lying to the news that she ran into the towers.
27:03He lied about Sneha running into the towers to corner interest in Sneha's case,
27:08given that she originally disappeared on September 10th.
27:11He later admitted he lied, and this was the reason.
27:14Sneha's family originally believed her disappearance was unrelated to 9-11.
27:19If John was involved in her disappearance,
27:21he wouldn't have fought against Sneha likely dying in the towers,
27:25and would have continued on with his lie about him being on the phone with her when the planes hit.
27:30There are several problems with the
27:33she ran to help and was killed by falling debris theory, though.
27:36One, where is her body?
27:38Bodies do not just vanish into thin air.
27:40The overwhelming majority of those killed whose remains have yet to be identified
27:44died above the impact zone.
27:47If Sneha died in the towers,
27:49that's where she in all likelihood was.
27:53However, given the timestamp of the video,
27:56there's no way she could have gotten from the lobby of 225 Rector
28:00to the top of the towers before the first impact.
28:04As part of the emergency response,
28:07triage centers were set up almost immediately after the first impact.
28:11If she went to help, she would have been directed there,
28:15as many other medical professionals who showed up were.
28:18She was not seen by any witnesses or caught on any footage at the towers.
28:25A couple of other points.
28:27One, voluntary disappearance, while extremely unlikely, is not impossible.
28:32Brenda Heist left her family in Pennsylvania on the spur of the moment for Florida
28:38and lived there undetected for 11 years before coming forward.
28:44Had she not revealed herself, she would have probably never been found.
28:49Two, foul play would not necessarily involve a stranger abduction
28:53or require a belief that New York City is dangerous.
28:57It's more about her not being seen after she left Century 21 on the 10th
29:02and no, we cannot assume that if it were foul play,
29:06it would have been discovered.
29:08Nearly half of homicides in the U.S. go unsolved.
29:12Getting away with murder is not uncommon.
29:16She must have stayed with someone on the 10th.
29:18She didn't come home.
29:19She lacked the cash to pay for a hotel room
29:21and there were no other Amex charges.
29:25Agree with all this.
29:27Occam's razor doesn't really work with unique cases like this.
29:31My sticking point is that she had to be somewhere on the night of 9-10
29:35and why hasn't the person she was with come forward?
29:39To me, Occam's razor is that something happened to her on 9-10.
29:44Yeah, same with me.
29:45The fact that we have zero evidence of what happened to Sneha
29:49after she left Century 21 over 13 hours before the attacks
29:54prevents me from concluding that she must have died in the towers.
29:58We don't even know for sure whether Sneha was alive on 9-11,
30:02much less her location if she was.
30:06Sneha's family members,
30:07who have not shown themselves to be consistently honest and forthcoming,
30:11insist that she would have been coming home right at that time.
30:15But how do we know that?
30:17She didn't have to work that day.
30:18She had no reason to rush home in the morning
30:20from wherever she stayed on the night of the 10th.
30:23And if you believe the courthouse argument
30:26detailed in the police report happened,
30:28then she was pissed at Ron.
30:30Maybe that's why she chose to spend the night of the 10th
30:33with someone other than him.
30:35So what basis is there for the conclusion
30:38that she would have been returning from wherever she was on the 10th
30:42right as the attacks happened?
30:44To me, it's pure speculation.
30:46In general, I don't think Occam's razor
30:48is at all applicable to a case like this.
30:52But there are so many theories around what happened to her,
30:55and they all have things about them that make them unlikely.
30:58Yet one of them has to be true.
31:01Yes, well said.
31:03Also wanted to add
31:04that everyone forgets about homophobia,
31:06even in a place like New York in 2001.
31:09If she spent the night with a woman
31:11she met at a lesbian bar,
31:13that person might not have wanted to come forward
31:16and risk outing herself,
31:18let alone making herself the center of a salacious story.
31:22The person she spent the night with
31:24could have died in the attack
31:26or not known Sneha was missing.
31:29Or something happened that night
31:31that caused Sneha's death,
31:33and that person knows they can't come forward,
31:36even all these years later.
31:37I do think she went home with someone,
31:40and I don't think she was the woman
31:42in the surveillance footage.
31:44The no-bags really gets me.
31:46You don't leave all those things
31:47with someone you just met,
31:49and we don't have any reports
31:50of a consistent affair.
31:52I agree.
31:53I think she went outside of Manhattan
31:55that night with someone.
31:57Very few people go missing for 20 years.
32:00Very few.
32:011,000 people dead on 9-11.
32:04I'm out!
32:06I'm out!
32:08Police!
32:10I'm out!
32:12We gotta do that.
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