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Primera entrevista exclusiva al futbolista del Mallorca Pablo Torre para MARCA en la que repasa cómo ha sido su llegada a la isla, su salida del Barça o cómo era su relación con Hansi Flick.
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00:00Bueno, Pablo Torre en Radio Marca, thank you very much for being with us.
00:03We promise to treat you well and make you feel comfortable.
00:06I'm sure there's something you'll like.
00:07Thank you very much.
00:08Well, the first thing I want to ask you is, since we're doing it here,
00:11this is one of the first interviews you've given to the media in Mallorca.
00:15I want to get straight to the point.
00:16Why Mallorca?
00:19Well, from the beginning, since the European Championship,
00:22I saw how Pablo was interested in me, right?
00:26Then there was a call with the coach too.
00:30After all, I had three years in which I've played very little and I needed
00:34and wanted to feel the trust of the coach and, well, in this case of Pablo,
00:38and I think I had it from the very beginning.
00:45Both my family and I thought it was a good place to be and, well, I'm very happy to be here.
00:50What do they convey to you when they talk to you?
00:52Do they talk to you about the role you're going to have?
00:54What do they convey to you?
00:56Well, how they see me as a player, how they see me in their plan,
01:00the things they wanted.
01:04Well, a little bit of all that, also the project they wanted to do,
01:07that we are building, and, well, that's a little bit of everything.
01:10You saw talk of teams like Ajax or Marseille, even teams that are going to play in the Champions League.
01:18I don't know to what extent, but I don't know if you had other important offers that you rejected
01:21because you were convinced by this project in particular.
01:24Yes, well, there was talk of teams, it's true that things like that came up, but it's what I'm telling you,
01:32in the end I needed confidence, and, well, Majorca gave it to me, and what I'm telling you is that I'm very happy to be here.
01:39Did you also speak to Yagoba before coming?
01:43What did the coach convey to you?
01:46Well, that's what I told you, a bit of the idea of the game they had,
01:49uh, what they wanted for this year, uh, how they were coming,
01:53what positions, what things they had to improve in the game, and yes, that's it.
01:57Well, you arrive in Majorca, and how has your adaptation been?
02:02How have you found the island?
02:03How have you adapted the first few months?
02:05Because it's a change, you live on an island, how have you adapted?
02:08Good, very good.
02:09In the end, I also came from living away from home for three years.
02:14The island is very nice, I don't like the heat very much, but, well,
02:18let's see if it gradually goes down a bit now, but no, but very good, honestly.
02:23In the end, I've also felt the affection of the people, right?
02:27And I'm very, very happy to be here.
02:29We're two guys from the North, Pablo.
02:31I can't stand the heat, you know?
02:34Yes, it's not what I'm telling you.
02:36We've been training all year at 34 grams, 33 grams and, well,
02:40that's been a bit difficult for me, but anyway,
02:43in the end it's part of it and that's what you have to do, adapt and keep going.
02:48Who has helped you integrate on the island?
02:50Who have you connected the most with?
02:52Well, from the first day, as I said the other day in an interview,
02:55I started playing golf and Abdon, Sergi, mate, and some others also play golf and they took
03:01me on the first day and said, come on, let's play.
03:06And yes, that's a bit of a problem, but I have a relationship with everyone,
03:10with Tony very well, now with Mateo, with Jan who I'm integrating,
03:14we're integrating, uh, everyone, Omar, Murray, everyone.
03:19The truth is that, Ray, there are some really good people there.
03:24A few months, Pablo, a bit compulsive, right?
03:27The first few.
03:28I promise you this is the only question I'm going to ask you about this topic,
03:30which is already tiring, but a difficult schedule,
03:32Madrid and Barca with issues that have come up, right?
03:34Which seem to be getting a bit entrenched, especially with the Donny issue, right?
03:37How has this gone down in the dressing room?
03:39How have you experienced it from the inside?
03:42Well, it's a situation that I think is, well, complicated, where we all make mistakes,
03:47but in the end the coach has made a decision and we have to respect it, the club too, and that's it.
03:54We all have to come together because we have to do things right and we still have a lot to do and that's it.
04:02However, we have to start from scratch, as you say, we have to keep moving forward.
04:07This is going to be a long one and I want to ask you where Pablo Torre is headed.
04:11What are your goals both here and for the team?
04:16Well, I think that in the end I also came here to feel comfortable.
04:22I'm feeling it, honestly, on the pitch.
04:26I think we've seen in parts what we want this season.
04:32I'm sure we're going to have a great year because there's a great team, right?
04:35And even more so now that we've added Samu and Pablo, let's say, and we're filling out, I think, a fantastic group, and that's what I'm telling you, in the end we've started against very powerful teams, but we're going to go up.
04:51I agree with you that there's a great team, I especially like the midfield, where you play, and considering that great team there, where can my work aim?
05:01Well, in the end, to beat Espanol, none of us like seeing where we are, and me even less.
05:09And well, that's what I'm telling you, winning Spain and gradually winning each match and well, uh, in the end we're all saying, no, Europe, such and such, but hey, in the end it's very difficult.
05:23I'm sure we can fight for it, but we have to beat Spain first.
05:29Quote, you see yourself here for many years.
05:32Well, uh, yes, in the end they've given me, you've given me special affection and well, uh, I'm very happy.
05:43I hope little by little to play better, score goals, make the fans enjoy themselves and then in the end we'll see what happens in the future.
05:53I think we have to take it year by year, do the best we can and that's what I'm telling you, we'll see the future in the end.
06:00Where you weren't for so many years, Pablo, was at Barca, how was your departure from there?
06:06Uh, very good.
06:09I mean, I have an incredible affection for everyone, uh, from the board who have always treated me great.
06:14Uh, all the players, the people inside the club, uh, the truth is that they are guys, I mean, they are aliens on the field, but they are incredible people in the locker room and off the field.
06:30And the truth is that I have missed the people, but, well, I keep talking to them and it has been a pleasure for me to be there, to learn from all of them because they have made me improve a lot in everything, you know?
06:46And, well, it has been incredible for me to play for Barca.
06:54Who do you have the closest relationship with there, Pablo?
06:59Well, with Valle, with Inaki Peña, with Cuba, with Cuba.
07:05The truth is that this year, I didn't know him and we got along incredibly well.
07:09Then, well, with GTA and the B team, I also get along very well with Sergi Dominguez, with Gabi, incredible.
07:15Uh, I don't want to leave anyone out.
07:16Then I got along with Eric.
07:18I've been with Eric for three years and it's incredible.
07:20I still talk to him.
07:22When did you decide that you had, Canos?
07:24When did you decide that you had to leave there, Pablo?
07:29Well, in the end you start to see it, right?
07:32And in the end you want to play.
07:34It's true that in the end you're at Barca and it's hard to leave, right?
07:38But hey, as time goes by and you don't play, you start to think about it, you start to talk about it.
07:43In the end, the happiest place is on the pitch and, as I'm telling you, as the season goes on, well, you start to think about it.
07:54It's also true that when you're at Barca, no one wants to leave Barca, right?
08:02And it's hard to leave Barca.
08:03So I've also learned a lot there and I think it's an experience, I mean, I don't regret going there at all, even though I didn't play.
08:10Hey, I want to ask you, Pablo, I know you've said this in an interview and I don't want to bore you with this.
08:16You said that you thought Flick hadn't been fair to you, that you had even had a meeting with him and how this was handled,
08:22because it felt like every time you came on you contributed.
08:24In almost 14 games you contributed to 7 goals, which is a figure that you contribute to almost 1 goal every 2 games and, on top of that, you didn't play the entire game.
08:33Also, Chesney gave an interview in which he said that you were one of the players in the squad who demanded the most from him.
08:40So it seems like at first glance it seems like you deserved more playing time.
08:45How did you handle this inside?
08:47Maybe, I don't know if it was frustration or how you dealt with it, right?
08:50Well, I mean, I dealt with it well.
08:53It's true that there were certain games where I thought I could obviously go on and play minutes and I think I had earned them.
08:58Well, it's also true that there are a lot of, I mean, a lot of great players, right?
09:08And more in the midfield, but it's true that, well, in some games, it's true that in the end you always think about yourself, right?
09:16It's selfish, and even more so when, well, you don't play that much and there was a game that we were winning that I could have given him minutes to keep everyone a little happy,
09:25and well, he didn't do it for whatever reasons.
09:28A, I respect him, obviously, but, well, in the end you also think about yourself and everything I said in the interview at the end, I mean, I said it to him, you know?
09:40So, well, I think things came out there, but in the end it's what I'm saying, that I talked about everything with him and, and no, not in a bad way, obviously, you don't.
09:50Say things and what you think and that's it.
09:53Have you been left with any thorns in your side from something you said, I still have to do this?
10:00No, no.
10:01And would you like to come back someday?
10:04Well, uh, it's just what I'm telling you, I'm happy here playing.
10:07Obviously, it's Barka, obviously, if I come back with another one with another type of responsibility, right?
10:18In the end it's Barka and it's been my dream and it's my dream to play there, the dream of many kids.
10:23So, well, of course I'd like to come back with another responsibility one day.
10:27Of course, what's it like to play with the men talking about Barka?
10:30Uh, easy, it's not that crazy, really.
10:34I mean, it's crazy.
10:38It's crazy at, well, 18 years old now, but everything he's done at 17, even at 16, uh, in the end he's an incredible talent, right?
10:49I don't need to say anything, right?
10:51Besides, I mean, technically he's incredible, but now even physically he's an animal, he can make efforts all the time, repeat actions, he goes for you, he's going to kill you, he has fun, I mean, it's incredible.
11:11Would you give him the Ballon d'Or this year?
11:13Yes, I've said it many times, yes.
11:15Yes, okay, Pablo, this was a more current affairs, more football-related blog, but I've heard about you, I've done a lot of research and I know you're really into your own person.
11:25I know people who know you, I have a lot of friends, well, not friends, but we have people in common, I'm from Burgos.
11:31So before I ask you any more questions, I want to show you something I've prepared for you.
11:35Okay, Pablo, here we are, the guys who got together to wish you the best of luck this season.
11:40Let's see if you can show what you're worth this year and, thanks to everyone, we're happier than we are.
11:48Let's see if we can also have some good ones in Mallorca, damn it.
11:53We'll eat some good meat there.
11:56And, well, we'll all enjoy the year a bit.
11:59Let's see if he teaches you how to take penalties, bro.
12:02Well, that's it, bro, good luck, damn, man.
12:08Go practice golf because you'll like the review when you're done and you won't be able to practice golf.
12:12Everyone's playing golf now too.
12:14Of course, of course.
12:15That's why, that's why when you mentioned the goal, I understood it.
12:18Well, it's worth mentioning that your friend Marco Caresco just broke his fibula and is playing for Cartagena.
12:22This video is from a few days ago, but watching the video of your friends and the smile that comes out of you, how is Pablo more personal?
12:27How are you with the people of Chantabria?
12:29Well, I'm very normal, honestly.
12:31I really like being at home, relaxed.
12:35There's no need to go on trips when, in fact, when we have the day off, I always like to go home because, in the end, you miss it.
12:43And, well, uh, yes, yes, it's true that they also come to see me a lot, and that's it.
12:49Marco, the truth is that I was talking to him yesterday, wishing him a speedy recovery.
12:54He's an animal, and I'm sure he'll be back soon because, because he's an animal.
12:58You can see the smile on his face that makes you excited.
13:01How much do you miss him?
13:02What do you miss the most about there?
13:04Because how has your life changed the most?
13:07I mean, since you became a very established footballer.
13:10Also, I know that things are easy to say, right?
13:13It's almost hard to take a walk around Palma, but what do you miss the most about that simple life?
13:18Well, being at the campsite that my family has there with my friends, having a drink, watching the sunset on a quiet beach, and the truth is that that's what I usually do, what I like and I miss it, honestly.
13:32That's where you fell in love with football, right, Chantabria?
13:40Well, since I was little, I always went to school with my father to play there and after class, we stayed there with friends to play in the playground and, well, yes, in the end I've done it since I was little, it's what I like and, well, for me it's a dream come true.
13:54I think you'll agree with me that a large part of the reason you fell in love with football is someone you met when you were very young at your training club in Marina.
14:08So, I have another video to show you.
14:12Hi, Poblin.
14:13Hi, Poblin.
14:43What do you remember about your childhood there?
15:12Poblin is a great player, by the way.
15:14I contacted him, sent him an audio and he sent it to me within a minute without even saying yes or no.
15:18He's a great player.
15:19How do you remember?
15:20Well, look, he's also been like a father to us.
15:23I also have many friends from my team, right?
15:25We've played there for Marina, which is the town's team, and he's been our coach for many years and we have a great affection for him.
15:33Well, in the end, since I was little, even when I wasn't training, I'd always go to the field to play there with, even with other teams, to be there with other friends who also played, maybe in a lower category.
15:47And I like being there watching, spending time, right?
15:51Playing football and, well, I remember it as a very good childhood.
15:54How many days did you train until and how old were you there before going?
16:02No, when I was little I used to train two or three times.
16:05I mean, when I was little I didn't train much either, but it's true that I would spend seven days there.
16:11I would easily spend five or six in the afternoons.
16:14And then you went to racing, how old were you, Pablo?
16:18How old were you when I went to racing?
16:21Twelve years.
16:23I was there for seven whole seasons.
16:26Eight or seven whole seasons.
16:28Seven in which you also have another person who has left his mark on you, right?
16:31And they told us, this guy has to be in the video because I think he's trained you for quite a few years.
16:36I have another video.
16:37Hello, Pablo, how long have you been?
16:39We haven't been able to see each other this summer.
16:41Well, it's a shame, we'll see you around here in Soto, okay?
16:45Well, you know that we follow you a lot from here.
16:47The Matabuena family is always with you.
16:50For the listeners of Radio Marka, I trained him for many years and I was lucky.
16:54And well, so was my wife who is a physical education teacher.
16:57I can tell you that.
16:58His wife taught him for many years, right?
17:00Yes, for many years.
17:01We know him well, we are very fond of him and, well, let's give him the good news because I think he's made a great choice.
17:07I think Mallorca is the right step for him to take on a sporting level and, on top of that, he's going to a great city and we'll soon see the best Pablo Torre for sure.
17:18I have no doubts.
17:21His potential is enormous and the people of Mallorca are going to enjoy him during all these seasons and I have no doubt that he'll do well.
17:28So, a big hello, a hug and good luck and go for it because he's sure to do well.
17:37Well, we've seen a video of Matabuena, a racing de Santander legend who trained you.
17:41What do you think of the message?
17:42Everyone agrees, right?
17:44Yes, Matta has trained me a lot.
17:47The truth is that I'm also very fond of him and he's also a football fanatic and I think he's going to go very far because he loves it and knows a lot.
17:55And if it's also true that Matta has trained me, he's trained me, how much?
18:03Yes, four years or so at racing, I think.
18:06Four years, maybe five years.
18:08And I've also learned a lot from him, honestly.
18:11And if what you say is true, that my wife has given me, she also gave me lessons at school for many years and I...
18:17Mean, he trained you at the same time that she taught you?
18:21Well, no, because when I went to racing I was already in high school, so she taught me at school, you know?
18:28But hey, my father also has a very good relationship with Matta and it's true that sometimes he stops by the house to talk about football, both of them sick with football.
18:36Everyone agrees, uh, it's the right move.
18:38You came here for what you said, to get some experience, minutes, uh, trust, everyone agrees.
18:43I think Enchantabria and Mallorca is the second team, almost.
18:46Right?
18:47That's what I'm telling you.
18:48Yes, yes, yes.
18:49No, I'm telling you this because in the end the people of Cantabria Santander also love me a lot and they're very interested in Mallorca, which I know affects me.
18:58And well, we're also interested in racing.
19:00If there were a Copa del Rey final, racing de Santander, Mallorca, who would they support in Soto?
19:09Let's, see, eh, damn, maybe a friend would support racing, I think, eh?
19:14I mean, a friend, I'm telling you, a really close friend.
19:17Yes, I only have 10 friends, but they're very good friends, I mean, they've always been there.
19:22And I think many would support racing.
19:27Maybe two or three with Mallorca, but the rest with racing.
19:31Maybe one of them scores 3-2 with a double from you.
19:3332 for racing with a double from you.
19:36Maybe.
19:36Yes.
19:37How did it start?
19:38How did your progress go, Pablo?
19:39Because of course, then you started to stand out.
19:41Also, I've already told you that I have friends in Cantabria who have been telling me a bit about your progress.
19:45How is your progression?
19:46How do you see yourself as a player growing?
19:49Are you noticing that you have something that stands out?
19:51How do you perceive it?
19:53The truth is that I keep playing and it's true that many times I was moved up a category.
19:57I mean, many times, some years I was moved up a category, but I didn't think beyond that.
20:04I thought about playing and that was it, until I even got to the first team and I thought about playing and I didn't think beyond that.
20:13Yes, it's true that when you finally get called up to Barka you think differently, don't you?
20:17You think, oh, come on.
20:19Maybe this is something else, huh?
20:23But I've always played to have fun, because it helps me have fun and that's it.
20:27You can tell when you're on the pitch, Pablo, you move up categories until you get promoted.
20:35You can't imagine, my friends, that you're like Pablo Torre.
20:3910 goals, 8 assists.
20:40How did you experience it here?
20:4310 goals, 10 assists.
20:4510 goals, 10 assists.
20:46And why do I have 8 listed?
20:47I don't.
20:48No, I have 10 assists.
20:4910 assists.
20:50Don't take away 2, right?
20:51Perfect.
20:51Well, I'll change the number.
20:52Double digits.
20:5310 double digits.
20:54How did you experience that?
20:56Because yesterday you were a hero.
20:57Well, I don't know if a hero, but in the end I was very happy with the fact that Rayson was a bit lost, so to speak, you know?
21:08And to bring back a bit of the excitement and all that, well a local boy also likes it, right?
21:13So, well, going to the stadium and seeing how, end after end, people were believing it, there were more and more people, and seeing the atmosphere that was created and that has formed, that there is today, well, it's spectacular and special.
21:30I'm telling you, I'm telling you about the hero Pablo, that you corrected me, because when I said I was coming to live in Mallorca and I started here in this house, uh, I told my friends at racing that I was going to be here.
21:39I said, the biggest guy didn't tell me anything, uh, I mean, you're going with Pablo.
21:43Ah, I mean, you came this year.
21:44Of course, yes, I've been here.
21:46No, I've been here almost as long as you.
21:48You arrived in June, you must have arrived around here.
21:50Well, I arrived in June too.
21:52And then to Barca, because it's true that the difference between that racing that played in the first division and the first division, there's a huge leap, you could say, abysmal, right?
22:01It gives the feeling that you were way ahead.
22:06Yes, let's see.
22:07It's a huge leap, obviously, and you go from playing with very good players, uh, like at racing to playing with crazy people, you know?
22:16With sick people.
22:20Well, in the end, it was also true that at the beginning it was a bit difficult for me in every way, and because suddenly I had buskets sitting next to me, you know?
22:28So, well, it was a bit difficult for me, but until you get the hang of it, you see that they are normal people and after two months I was already one of them and the truth is that I felt good from that first year.
22:40I felt very good training, I saw myself as very capable, in the end you see that you learn from them, right?
22:50So it's what I'm telling you, what I told you before, that I don't regret having gone there at all, even though I didn't play as much as I wanted to, because I think I'm 500 times better than the player who was at racing.
23:00Why Barca?
23:04Because it was my dream to play for Barca.
23:10Now that we've reviewed your entire career, and you've said that Barca was your dream, I don't know if you regret anything with all this, or if you've gained anything from it.
23:18Now, thinking about it calmly, Pablo Torres, sitting down in Mallorca, I don't know if you regret anything, if you missed anything.
23:28No, no, no, no, nothing.
23:31There's no decision that you would change.
23:32I'm telling you this because when you went to Barca, many clubs were knocking on your door, many clubs, but you always knew what to do, right?
23:39Yes, yes, yes.
23:40And now it's the same.
23:43And what have you learned from your entire career?
23:45Rayson, Barca, a lone move to.
23:47Girona, Barca again, now Mallorca.
23:50Well, you have to be very patient and work hard because everything comes, it comes.
23:57Well, it's true that you have bad days when you're not playing and sometimes even more so when you're alone, but hey, in the end I think that also makes you mature, right?
24:08In every way, both off and on the pitch.
24:11And well, in the end I think that's a bit of patience and work.
24:17In line with this question, I want to ask you, Pablo, yesterday Mbappe gave an interview to the team a while ago, but it was published yesterday, and he said something like,
24:28Hey, football is a world that I don't know if he even says the word disgusting.
24:31If I had a son I would like him to hate football, hey, I don't know, I don't know what perception you have of the world of football that goes along with this question of, I don't, no, as a person who is not a footballer, what do you think about the packaging of a, well, everything has its good and bad things, right?
24:48In the end, I think it's our passion and, and those bad things, uh, we kind of ignore them because we love what we do, or at least I do and I'm sure you do too.
24:59But anyway, in that sense I understand what you're saying, but anyway, in the end I love playing soccer, I love being surrounded by my teammates on the field with so many people in the stadiums and, and for me it's a dream to be able to be a professional soccer player.
25:16I'm going to ask you a few quick questions and we can finish if you want.
25:21Pablo, Sobados or Ensematas?
25:24The people in Chantabria are going to kill me, but I don't really love Sobos, no, I don't really love them, I mean, they're, overrated, no, they're overrated, no, but people love them, but I don't know, me either.
25:36Look, that guy over there tells me to bring him some.
25:40And Ensematas, come on, Ensematas, better than that, let's go, no, I wasn't expecting it, huh?
25:46Beach or mountains, and don't tell me both, which I know you love.
25:48Beach, not mountains, no, beach, favorite food.
25:56Uh, hamburger.
25:58Your best friend in the locker room, no, okay, Matios Joseph, okay.
26:05Uh, it's just that I get along really well with everyone.
26:11I don't know, uh, Sergi, come on, Abdon, Abdon.
26:16Mate, yes, it's just that one of the three, I don't know.
26:19For those who don't know, I mean Mateo Joseph, we haven't mentioned him because you played with him in the higher categories at racing.
26:24A place to get lost.
26:26Ah, Soto de la Marina.
26:28The player you hate facing the most.
26:33Huh?
26:38Padre.
26:38How many times have you faced him?
26:41No, the other day facing him, well, in training a lot, I mean, Padre.
26:45Why?
26:46Because he's very annoying.
26:49Frankie or Padre, because they're not going to give you a single ball, so you have to run a lot.
26:54Favorite song?
26:55What was it?
26:59Donnie Martin.
27:00I really like Donnie Martin.
27:02Will you return to racing?
27:04Yes.
27:05Will you give another interview to Radio Marca?
27:07Were you enjoying it, huh?
27:08Come on.
27:09Yes, yes, yes.
27:10He is enjoying it.
27:11That's it.
27:11Pablo Toron.
27:12Radio Marca.
27:13Thank you very much, Pablo, for joining us.
27:14To you.
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