00:00For the first time in our careers ever, first time in life, we had to consider things going down.
00:07It could have been the end of simple lines.
00:09Is the hunger gone? Is the fire and passion left you?
00:19We both lived in the same street.
00:21There was this huge sandcastle and sitting on top was this little kid called Charlie, Charlie Bubble.
00:30I remember sitting in the room with the record company and their jaws just dropped.
00:35What the fuck have they given us?
00:37It wasn't like a straight rock and roll band. There was no blues, guitar licks or anything like that.
00:42We were like £300,000 in debt at that point.
00:46Did you ever take guitar lessons? No, never get me that.
00:49Here are the best band in the entire history of the universe, Simple Minds!
00:56They were completely original and that's why we went out to sign them.
00:59It felt gritty, almost like an obscene phone call, like in a good way.
01:04This is the sound of a potential million dollars.
01:10I'll say it's not good enough until we're both dead.
01:12As Dr. Dre would say, better can always be better.
01:19We're fucking pop stars, man.
01:20Then we suddenly became a stadium band.
01:23We had huge audiences.
01:24They were probably one of the biggest fans of the world at that point.
01:27Shut up! Do your song! Fuck off!
01:30There are people wanting reform in South Africa, but they want peaceful reform.
01:35What Simple Minds are looking for is violent reform.
01:38It's quite a bold step to potentially maybe sabotage your career.
01:41Things started to fragment a little bit.
01:47Stone Roses, Mad Jester, the new heroes were coming over the hills.
01:53And after 15, 16, 17 years of everything you're trying, kind of working, it was a bit of taste.
02:05I mean, it's a great story, isn't it?
02:07You get yourself back up off the canvas.
02:10And people love that story.
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