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In an exclusive interview with senior most journalist Bharathi S Pradhan for Lehren, legendary music composer Anandji Bhai reveals how he and star lyricist Indeevar created Manoj Kumar's Kasme Waade Pyar Wafa song outside a crematorium in Mumbai! The 92 Year Old Musician also shares several unheard musical backstories of Manoj Kumar's blockbuster movies like Himalay Ki God Mein (1965), Upkar (1967), Purab Aur Pachhim & Yaadgaar (1970) in turn talking about singer like Mukesh & Mahendra Kapoor too. Watch this golden footage only at Lehren Podcast! #kalyanjianandji #indeevar #manojkumar #kasmewaadepyarwafa #upkar #himalaykigomein #purabaurpachhim #yaadgaar #mukesh #mahendrakapoor #interview #podcast #lehren

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00:00What is the story of Kasmiawadhyay?
00:05I want to tell you that story about Kasmiawadhyay.
00:09Yes.
00:11How did that song come about, Kasmiawadhyay?
00:16Indivarji and our group, we used to sing a song.
00:19Okay.
00:20We used to sing a song,
00:22we used to sing a song,
00:24we used to sing a song,
00:27Kasmiawadhyay,
00:28we used to sing a song,
00:32Pardis,
00:33so my friend was in Bombay,
00:37so he said,
00:38I'm coming soon to Bombay,
00:41and he will do.
00:42And my accident happened in Africa.
00:44So I took my tongue,
00:46I had a little emotional, philosophical mind.
00:49So I said to Indivarji,
00:51Indivarji is a common friend to me.
00:53So I said,
00:55I went to the wedding,
00:56I said,
00:57Indivarji,
00:58that girl who is happy,
01:00will give him a present,
01:01and he will give him something new present.
01:04That's why he gave him.
01:05So I said,
01:06I'm doing it,
01:07I'm doing it,
01:08I'm doing it,
01:09I'm doing it,
01:10and I'm doing it.
01:11It's not something here.
01:12It's not something here.
01:13So you were gone to her wedding?
01:16Yes.
01:17Yes, the girl's wedding.
01:19We both went to her wedding.
01:21We were in the village.
01:22I was in the village.
01:23So,
01:24so
01:25I said,
01:26the girl's wedding,
01:27Mr. Piyar Vapa said,
01:28I will go to her.
01:30Then I told her,
01:31I will go.
01:32You will go.
01:33That's a real cinema.
01:34No.
01:35So,
01:36in the car,
01:37he said to her,
01:38he said to her,
01:39he said to her,
01:40I will give her wedding.
01:41He will give her wedding,
01:42and she will give her wedding.
01:43Then I will give her wedding.
01:44So,
01:45I will give her wedding.
01:46I'm a crazy person.
01:48What are you doing?
01:56I'm a crazy person.
01:58I'm a crazy person.
02:00I'm a crazy person.
02:02I'm a crazy person.
02:04I'm a crazy person.
02:06I'm a crazy person.
02:08No one is no one.
02:10They're just a joke.
02:12You're a good person.
02:14You're just a joke.
02:16I'm a crazy person.
02:18I know God.
02:20I'm a crazy person.
02:22I'm a crazy person.
02:24We are doing the same.
02:26We are doing the same.
02:28We were talking about the other people.
02:30Three, coming the day.
02:32I'm saying, stop, and stop.
02:34That's how my life comes.
02:36He would say,
02:38I need to go here.
02:40I need to go there.
02:42I said, you will kill your son, you will kill your son, but I won't kill him.
02:49I said, you are dead, why are you going to do it?
02:52I said, I don't want to do it.
02:56I said, India, this is the way that no one doesn't do it.
03:00I said, there is something else.
03:02I said, sit in bed and sing a song.
03:06I said, I'm going to do it at night.
03:11I said, what happened?
03:13I said, I'm scared.
03:15I said, you will kill my son.
03:19I said, this is a song.
03:21There are no such things.
03:23The song has become a song.
03:25I had to improve the song.
03:27I wanted to sing a song.
03:29I loved it.
03:31You see, that line came from that.
03:35The line came from that.
03:39I said, I have to sing another song.
03:43I said, will you?
03:45I said, will you?
03:47I said, will you?
03:48I will understand all these songs.
03:49I will understand all of these songs.
03:51I said, will you?
03:53I say to you, you will empty yourself, or you will be empty...
03:56to give yourself the health!
03:59No, no, no, no, no, that's not so much!
04:02We're getting some passages of shocking.
04:06How did it go? You don't understand.
04:08The people are so scared, I want to be scared.
04:10Life is only way out!
04:13So this song, you created this song,
04:16as you made the pictures?
04:18No, no.
04:19Sometimes there is a good job.
04:21It doesn't mean that there will be something that will remain.
04:24That's right.
04:25If you sit at home, you can't even sit at home.
04:28If you don't go outside, you can feel that it will be beautiful.
04:31So, this is the song.
04:33And then, when Manu Ji came to this situation,
04:38then you gave them this song?
04:40Yes.
04:41When you listen to this song, you say,
04:43this is a good song.
04:45Okay, okay.
04:46Okay.
04:47I thought, I was just a good song.
04:50I was just a good song.
04:52It's a good song.
04:53It's a good song.
04:55It's a good song.
04:57I'm sure that I was a good song.
04:59I was just happy.
05:01So, Anand Ji, tell us about this.
05:03Is it the Himalayas' song?
05:05Yes.
05:06I'm a good song.
05:08We have a lucky song for a musical exercise.
05:12We have awarded it for a musical exercise.
05:14The first time I decided that we would have to get more reverb, so we would have to do our music.
05:21The idea was very good, but it didn't continue.
05:25For all the time, one person doesn't live.
05:28No one comes, no one comes, no one comes.
05:30So, when we were doing this, we were doing a song.
05:34Mukhi Ji's song is good.
05:36Our orchestration was too good.
05:39So, our beloved brother did that orchestration?
05:42Okay.
05:43Conducting the arrangement.
05:45So, we used a French horn to make an instrument for opening.
05:50We thought we were doing something new.
05:53So, we used to put an instrument to make an instrument,
05:58but it wasn't available.
06:00So, we could have a little delay.
06:02We said, what is this?
06:03We said, there's a different sound.
06:05He's a doctor.
06:07So, his vision is different.
06:09He's a man, he's a man.
06:11He's a man, he's a man.
06:12Right.
06:13So, we took that instrument.
06:15So, we took that instrument.
06:16So, we took that instrument.
06:17Then, he was French horn.
06:18He was a man.
06:19He was a man.
06:20He was a man.
06:21Okay.
06:22Okay.
06:23So, Vijay Bhatt, the director.
06:24He was the director.
06:25He was the director.
06:26He was the director.
06:27He was the director.
06:28So, he was his wait for it?
06:29Yes.
06:30Okay.
06:31So, he was the director.
06:32So, his cooperation was also prepared.
06:33If you have to do something new, then you have to do something new.
06:38We don't have to say this, we don't have to say this.
06:42We request that this was something new.
06:44Then we agree.
06:48I've heard that your song,
06:51When you broke your head,
06:54there is also a story behind it,
06:57which you haven't told me.
06:59We have to do something new,
07:03we have to do something new.
07:04We have told you that we don't have to do something new.
07:10We have to do something new.
07:14In this song,
07:16we don't have Indian culture,
07:19it's Western culture.
07:21We love Western culture.
07:25So, we have musical pictures.
07:30So, we think we will do something new.
07:32We will do something new.
07:34We will do something new.
07:35I think we will do something new.
07:37We are going to do something new.
07:39When someone is breaking your head,
07:41then you will have to go to my side.
07:42My heart is going to do something new.
07:46I think we will do something new.
07:52We will do something new.
07:53My heart is Indian.
07:56So, the Indian instrument,
07:57the pain of the Indian instrument is in it.
08:00So, it would be good.
08:02In the Western country,
08:03we have to do something new.
08:05We have to do something new.
08:08We have to do something new.
08:11Last time,
08:11a tablet,
08:12aulum,
08:14a flute is filmed with a switch.
08:16The blues...
08:18When you start working,
08:20having one, two ever saw...
08:21The drums applied...
08:22Oh.
08:22the orchestra's...
08:25The singers外聲 added...
08:28Yes.
08:29When they came to school,
08:30theiments made up of three or four instruments.
08:32Four instruments.
08:33Yes, okay.
08:34A Provost,
08:36a flute up a tablet...
08:37and a tiny...
08:39I was like, I don't know what to do.
08:41So Kauci Baba, who was watching me,
08:44he said, he was so proud of me,
08:46he said, I have to do something.
08:48Now, I'll show you.
08:49I said, Baba feels like he's adding something.
08:51He's adding something.
08:53It's like this.
08:55He said, where was the instrument in our life?
08:58He used to play songs.
09:00Baba used to play the same thing.
09:02And he gave confidence.
09:04Sound recorders.
09:06Kauci Baba was the song.
09:08After that, the song recorders,
09:11they were doing themselves.
09:15I didn't think it was good.
09:18Mukesh Ji also said,
09:20I'm playing, I'll be playing.
09:22At night, at 4 o'clock,
09:24it was taken 40 takes.
09:27Wow.
09:29Mukesh Ji wanted to do this.
09:33He said, I'm not going to die.
09:35I'm not going to die.
09:37I'm not going to die.
09:38Of course, that's going to die.
09:39It's all challenging.
09:41It's not that,
09:42it's not coming at the 4 missions.
09:43But it's not coming on me.
09:45It's not coming very good.
09:46It's not coming to me.
09:47At night, I'll be doing great.
09:48Kauci Baba, it's done one thing.
09:49He said, look,
09:50I'm working.
09:51I've done everything with my hands.
09:53You don't have to worry about it in your heart.
09:56Two days later, they will listen to it.
09:58Manojji has said that?
10:00Manojji has said that?
10:01Koushik Baba.
10:02Koushik Baba.
10:03Koushik Baba.
10:04He said that I didn't listen to it.
10:06He said, what do you listen to it?
10:07Because it was 40 times that time.
10:09Manojji has said that.
10:10Manojji has said that.
10:11Two days later, Baba has said that.
10:15We listened to it and thought it was great.
10:18We didn't do it.
10:20Okay.
10:21And Manojji, how did it feel?
10:24It was his song.
10:26It was his song.
10:27You have to accept it.
10:29You have to coordinate one another.
10:32Sometimes we will say that it will be good.
10:34Sometimes we will say that it will be good.
10:38You have to say that it will be good.
10:40So Manojji also liked the song very much.
10:43Okay.
10:44Minimal recording.
10:46He always wanted something different.
10:49He also wanted something different.
10:50Always different.
10:51And you also wanted something different.
10:52And then musical also.
10:53Right.
10:54These two things are different.
10:55Like one song and one song.
10:59You say something.
11:00You say something.
11:01You say something.
11:02This is different.
11:03They are different.
11:04They are all different.
11:05They are all different.
11:06They are all different.
11:07They are all different than my country.
11:09And they all laugh from them.
11:11But I did not understand them.
11:15Now they are singing on the radio and on TV.
11:18They are all my country!
11:19that is all about my country.
11:20Yes, immediately they know which gun is.
11:22Yes.
11:23It seems like a time comes and a lot of things will happen,
11:29and then they will forget.
11:31So, these songs are long and long.
11:33And it's a credit for Manoj Ji, writers,
11:36to inspire them to do their work.
11:39We have to understand the understanding.
11:41Correct. Exactly.
11:43That's what we need.
11:45That's what we need.
11:47I think that you need to know better,
11:49and we don't need to know more about it.
11:52So, I have to write a little shock.
11:54I'm writing something,
11:55I'm writing something,
11:56I'm writing something,
11:57I'm writing something,
11:58I'm thinking about it,
11:59and then she's the child who says,
12:00he's the critic to me.
12:02It's like,
12:04I'm going to beat you.
12:05It's like your daughter.
12:07It's like everybody.
12:09I don't know if you want to beat me for this,
12:11but I'm going to beat you.
12:13You're going to beat yourself,
12:15surah kutva diyeh mire kud ke bhi kutva diyeh hea
12:17woh pyaar ka dant hai
12:19woh pyaar ka dant hai
12:21woh i!e lighta acchha hai
12:23is lihe kabhi bhi kuch likhvai na
12:25taw isse likhvai ta hou
12:27all time ki sab media
12:29joh karni hai na
12:31insa haamko baut miltah hai
12:33ninda na karso koji nipaar ke
12:35kisi ki ninda mat karo
12:37isse rake philosophical gaan jago hothay na
12:39ye gahate wahi kuch na bhi
12:41uus mein sa kam masala miltah
12:43some kujh na kujh.
12:44Okay, okay.
12:47Sab ka sahath hauta bhi kaam hota,
12:49akale ka nahi kaam hii.
12:51You get them from somebody, something, somebody, something.
12:54You get from different people.
12:55That's true. That's true.
12:57Sab mene kea ye bolu tu kaal hu.
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