In an exclusive interview with Bharathi S Pradhan for Lehren Retro, Anandji Virji Shah of Kalyanji-Anandji fame gets candid their early life, entry into the music industry & cineworld, classic co-star tales and introduction of super hit Live Orchestra shows with A-list Megastars of the industry. The 92 year old music director shares some unheard secrets of collaborating with legendary actors & singers like Amitabh Bachchan, Dev Anand, Shashi Kapoor, Manoj Kumar, Feroz Khan, Raaj Kumar, Jaya Bachchan, Mukesh, Kishore Kumar, Nazia Hassan, Geeta Dutt & many more... Anandji Bhai also reveals some exciting & fun backstories of creating blockbuster songs & tunes including Man Dole Mera Tan Dole (Nagin 1954), Ek Tha Gul Aur Ek Thi Bulbul (Jab Jab Phool Khile 1965), Laila O Laila (Qurbani 1980) & Mere Angne Mein (Laawaris 1981). The senior composer praises the unique musical sense & talent of his youngest brother Laxmichand 'Babla' Virji Shah & also narrates a song sequence shoot incidence of Govinda Aala Re Aala in Girgaon area of Mumbai with Shammi Kapoor & senior leader of Maharashtra Bal Thackeray. Watch this timeless podcast featuring the evergreen & energetic Anandji Bhai only on your favourite digital destination, Lehren! #kalyanjianandji #anandjivirjishah #kalyanjianandjisongs #kalyanji #anandji #amitabhbachchan #ferozkhan #lailaolaila #mereangnemein #devanand #kishorekumar #mukesh #balthackeray #babla #shashikapoor #manojkumar #mohammedrafi #lehrenretro #lehren #podcast #interview
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00:00:00So, it was a very controversial time, because when Jaya came up, she didn't like the song. She didn't like him dancing.
00:00:12Don't predict anything in advance. In our understanding, it's limited. It's the same.
00:00:19So, Shami Ji, did you go?
00:00:21Yes, it was a very long time. And that day, she celebrated her dance. She took her dance.
00:00:32The most important thing is that I didn't have money. But it was a lot of fun.
00:00:38And we had fun. We had fun. We had fun. It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun.
00:00:45It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. It wasn't fun.
00:00:59This is what I want. Why are you missing my hand?
00:01:02Ready! Come here Aw sagen!
00:01:05The things that happen, they happen.
00:01:08We are the people who are people of destiny.
00:01:11We have become a character, become a musician.
00:01:14To begin at this level.
00:01:17And to make a new action.
00:01:20That everyone who has to do, does everything, does everything.
00:01:22Where is that something?
00:01:32Anand ji bhai, namaskar.
00:01:38Namaskar, namaskar.
00:01:39I can't believe that you are in Banbe Varash.
00:01:44You don't want to say anything.
00:01:46You are 92 years old, I can't believe it.
00:01:48What happened? I didn't know.
00:01:51I didn't know.
00:01:52I didn't know.
00:01:53I didn't know.
00:01:54I didn't know.
00:01:55I didn't know.
00:01:57I think the music has helped a lot.
00:02:00Because the thing which you wanted,
00:02:03that made your own roti.
00:02:05The music was exhausted.
00:02:07The music was not struggling.
00:02:10We were enjoying the work.
00:02:12We were working, working, working, working, working.
00:02:15New generation came.
00:02:17Progressive work.
00:02:19And after success, we had a lot of fun.
00:02:21We had to keep our mind right now.
00:02:23I am very proud that you are talking to me.
00:02:26I am proud of you.
00:02:28I am proud of you.
00:02:29I am proud of you.
00:02:30I am proud of you.
00:02:31I am proud of you.
00:02:32I am proud of you.
00:02:34I am proud of you.
00:02:36I am proud of you.
00:02:37I am proud of you.
00:02:38I am proud of you.
00:02:39I am proud of you.
00:02:40I am proud of you.
00:02:41I am proud of you.
00:02:42I am proud of you.
00:02:43I am proud of you.
00:02:44another of your chart-busters.
00:02:47Oh yes.
00:02:48That means that I am Houdon and that I am Houdon and that I am Houdon and that I am Houdon.
00:02:53These two songs, I mean, again,
00:02:56the children know that they are young.
00:02:58What happened is that Bhavla is good at the rhythm.
00:03:02Rhythm.
00:03:02He can compose himself, he is very known as West Indies.
00:03:07He was a brother.
00:03:07My brother.
00:03:09We go to West Indies, we go to West Indies.
00:03:13West Indies.
00:03:14They call us, here comes Bhavla's brother.
00:03:16Brother.
00:03:17Brother.
00:03:18Brother.
00:03:19Okay.
00:03:20You understand?
00:03:21It's called a brand T-shirt.
00:03:23It's called everything.
00:03:24Okay.
00:03:25Because there is a music of Chattani.
00:03:27So, it's very popular.
00:03:28It's called everything else.
00:03:30It's called everything else.
00:03:32It's called everything else.
00:03:34It's called everything else.
00:03:37It's called everything else.
00:03:38I have to say,
00:03:39it's called everything else.
00:03:41I have to say,
00:03:42I have to say,
00:03:43I have to say,
00:03:45I have to say,
00:03:46this is what I am going to say.
00:03:48I have to say,
00:03:49I have to say,
00:03:50I have to say,
00:03:51So that beat and that rhythm came out.
00:03:54Yeah, again, it was real.
00:03:56What was that? That was the middle.
00:03:59That was the big advantage of us.
00:04:01Then, friends, in Western countries,
00:04:05what was the music style of music,
00:04:07what was that? That was that.
00:04:09In the village, there was this place.
00:04:12Here is Maharashtra.
00:04:14Then, friends, they were Maharashtra.
00:04:16They were doing everything.
00:04:19Why?
00:04:20This was a lot of things.
00:04:23Like the Koli dancer,
00:04:24what was the moment?
00:04:27What did you kill?
00:04:29No, no, the leg is up and down.
00:04:31It doesn't go like this.
00:04:33Because the leg goes on the leg,
00:04:35the leg goes on the leg.
00:04:37That's right.
00:04:41It doesn't work like that.
00:04:44So these are all small things.
00:04:46Do you observe yourself?
00:04:48Yes.
00:04:49No.
00:04:49No.
00:04:50No.
00:04:50No.
00:04:51No.
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00:04:56No.
00:04:57No.
00:04:57No.
00:04:58No.
00:04:58No.
00:04:59No.
00:04:59How many songs are there?
00:05:01The song goes on to the Sawyer Walk.
00:05:06It's going to be...
00:05:08Don't go, don't go,
00:05:10don't go, don't go,
00:05:14it's going to be a mess.
00:05:16It's going to be a mess.
00:05:17It's going to be a mess.
00:05:20The person is going to be a mess.
00:05:21Go, go, go, go, go, go.
00:05:25Go, go, go.
00:05:29It's going to be a mess.
00:05:30It's going to be a mess.
00:05:32But is this true that it was Manojji
00:05:35who suggested Khai Kipan Banaras for Don?
00:05:37No, no, not the song.
00:05:40Not the song, but that there is a song.
00:05:43Because he was an assistant to Manojji
00:05:46and cameraman was the producer.
00:05:49Nariman Arani.
00:05:50So, the two of them are there.
00:05:52Naturally, Guruji will show the picture.
00:05:54The picture will show the last climax
00:05:56about it.
00:05:59So, I said, cut it.
00:06:01I told him not to cut it.
00:06:03He said, he reveals it.
00:06:06Then I said, I'll do this work.
00:06:07He's going to drink and put it in a song.
00:06:10So, I said, what will we do?
00:06:11So, at the beginning, it was shown
00:06:13that he ate the water in the first place.
00:06:15So, he said, what will we do?
00:06:17So, in his mind, he needs to be a song.
00:06:20Now, many people think that
00:06:22in a picture, there is no situation.
00:06:27They also drink water, and they doubt that they drink water when they become very educated.
00:06:34So, I think that this man can be something.
00:06:37So, I didn't say that.
00:06:39We thought that the song was all over.
00:06:42The song was all over.
00:06:44The song was all over.
00:06:45The song was all over.
00:06:48But the song was all over.
00:06:50The song was on record market.
00:06:53The song was on record market.
00:06:56But the song was not.
00:06:58The song was on record market.
00:07:00After that, it was on record market.
00:07:04It was on record market.
00:07:07The distributor said,
00:07:09people say,
00:07:11people come to this song.
00:07:13The record is on record market.
00:07:15Correct.
00:07:17We are seeing a business.
00:07:19Would you remember which film you were putting in Devanand?
00:07:24Banar Siva.
00:07:26Banar Siva.
00:07:27Banar Siva.
00:07:28To that, you thought you were eating Banar Siva?
00:07:33Banar Siva?
00:07:34Banar Siva.
00:07:35The situation was that,
00:07:36they were catching a person from the blood.
00:07:39Before, I was eating the blood.
00:07:41I was not eating the blood.
00:07:43But I was eating the blood.
00:07:45and if he can get water, he can be the same person.
00:07:51Correct.
00:07:52So, the situation is not possible.
00:07:54Correct.
00:07:55So, you thought that we will put a song on the song?
00:07:59Yes, I thought that he could sing the song on the song.
00:08:02But that song is not possible.
00:08:04He could not take it all.
00:08:06So, you have the idea here?
00:08:09Yes, so many things have been involved.
00:08:11There were two songs.
00:08:16One was a romantic song.
00:08:18It was a sad song.
00:08:20It was a sad song.
00:08:22That's true.
00:08:23Yes.
00:08:24One day, I took it in the picture.
00:08:28I saw the picture.
00:08:30It was a sad song.
00:08:32It was a sad song.
00:08:33It was a sad song.
00:08:35Yes, it was a sad song.
00:08:36I thought it was a sad song.
00:08:38It was a sad song.
00:08:40It was a sad song.
00:08:42So, someone used to find their experiences.
00:08:44They said, there's a fighting.
00:08:45They said, you know what to tell me about it?
00:08:48They said, you know what to choose with a jacket.
00:08:49Then they will do a fight.
00:08:51And it was a straight formula.
00:08:53That was the formula.
00:08:54The formula.
00:08:55Correct, correct.
00:08:57How did Firoz khan feel?
00:09:00It was very good too.
00:09:02Because after the dharmatma, qurbani, qurbani, and such, time again.
00:09:07See, Arabic influence is very unique in pictures, Arabic.
00:09:12Arabic.
00:09:13Arabic music that.
00:09:15We are kachs.
00:09:17In kachs, there are a lot of people.
00:09:19Right.
00:09:20Pustu.
00:09:21Right.
00:09:21In that rhythm, we are like...
00:09:26This rhythm is their style.
00:09:30So, it becomes suitable for them.
00:09:34And he was very keen about musical notes.
00:09:36He was kind.
00:09:37He was kind.
00:09:38He did exactly this.
00:09:40And sometimes he said,
00:09:42Yes, he said, I need a new singer.
00:09:45Okay.
00:09:46I don't know the old singers.
00:09:48They are a lot.
00:09:49They are fine.
00:09:50We don't bring something new.
00:09:52Every time, they have a chakar.
00:09:54But then, I needed a little bit.
00:09:57Okay.
00:09:58In the Muslim people, they are in the Muslim,
00:10:01they are getting your songs,
00:10:02They are the best of the Muslim.
00:10:03Yeah.
00:10:04And the people are telling me,
00:10:05Oh, my God.
00:10:06They are always like me.
00:10:07Yeah.
00:10:08Okay.
00:10:09It's a nice sound.
00:10:10It's a nice sound.
00:10:11So, what happens in Neser Sound?
00:10:12It's a nice sound.
00:10:13It's a nice sound.
00:10:14It's a nice sound.
00:10:15It's a good sound.
00:10:16It's a good sound.
00:10:17It's just a nice sound.
00:10:18And it's a nice sound.
00:10:19So, this is a brand of people like Mukherjee. Rajis Ji, hypnotic sound.
00:10:28It was Hitler's hypnotic sound.
00:10:32This is a lot of sound.
00:10:37That has nothing to do with it.
00:10:40But he has a lot of fun.
00:10:42Right.
00:10:43So, with Theroz Khan, was it your idea to get Nazia Hassan and Biddu into the film?
00:10:50No, no, no.
00:10:51Whatever, they went for the shooting over there.
00:10:54So, a piece said that Biddu will do it and I will introduce her girlfriend.
00:11:01And we will continue.
00:11:03So, one discussion, Jeenet said that if I am,
00:11:08then why not have a song over here?
00:11:11I said, good idea but where to all sing?
00:11:14Writing is a big part of the song.
00:11:16It was a song called Dharmazana.
00:11:18Why not like that?
00:11:19Because you are like someone in my life.
00:11:21So, if I have written it, then it was totally different.
00:11:25One rejected the line, then he kept it.
00:11:29He kept it.
00:11:30They decided to all sing the song.
00:11:33Jeenet said that I am listening to it.
00:11:35I am saying that girl is good.
00:11:38She can sing.
00:11:39I am talking.
00:11:41So, I called her.
00:11:42I see him.
00:11:43I am talking about that.
00:11:44Correct.
00:11:45So, he had a man in the ring.
00:11:46He had a man in the ring.
00:11:48So, it was the recording time.
00:11:50He had seen that his voice is not that strong.
00:11:53Okay.
00:11:54So, it was double voice.
00:11:55Right.
00:11:56It was double voice.
00:11:57It was double voice two times.
00:11:59Two times, yes.
00:12:00Yes.
00:12:01I used to sing.
00:12:02I used to sing.
00:12:03What is singing?
00:12:04So you didn't feel bad?
00:12:07How did you feel bad?
00:12:09Because in those days, one music director always did a whole album.
00:12:15No, correct.
00:12:17And Biddu also came.
00:12:19So you didn't feel bad?
00:12:21I had two heroes and three heroes.
00:12:24You had to get the whole music director.
00:12:27So you were okay with it?
00:12:29Biddu also said,
00:12:30What is our music?
00:12:32What is our music?
00:12:33What is our music?
00:12:34Music is music.
00:12:35Music is music.
00:12:36Okay.
00:12:37So you were able to take it when Biddu came in?
00:12:39Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:40Abhijya Sai Ji, he had announced it before,
00:12:42Roti Kapra or Makaan.
00:12:43He had to do it.
00:12:44He had to do it.
00:12:45He had to do it.
00:12:46He had to do it.
00:12:47He had to do it.
00:12:48He had to do it.
00:12:50Very good.
00:12:51Right.
00:12:52So Roti Kapra or Makaan was announced with your name?
00:12:55Yeah.
00:12:56I see.
00:12:57There was the idea.
00:13:01If someone wanted to do it,
00:13:02we are proud of them.
00:13:03So what's the thing that happens to happen,
00:13:04we are the people who are the destiny of our destiny.
00:13:07We are the young man,
00:13:08and cities as a musician,
00:13:10make you back into a music character
00:13:12and make you back to this level.
00:13:13Make you back to a new show line.
00:13:15Right.
00:13:16The actors got to sing, dance, everything got to sing.
00:13:19Where was that?
00:13:21So it was all new and new.
00:13:25But Gurbani, you also had Laila and Laila,
00:13:27which was very picturized in Amjad Khan, right?
00:13:31That was one of those days.
00:13:33In every song, there was something of a story.
00:13:36Correct.
00:13:37You understand?
00:13:38Indivarji and Indivarji,
00:13:40Indivarji, he was not that capable.
00:13:45What should I do?
00:13:47It was difficult for a Hindi.
00:13:50They would also get tired of living in the world.
00:13:52What should I do?
00:13:55We should talk about beer, beer, beer.
00:13:58We were thinking about it.
00:14:00So that day, there was an interest.
00:14:02There was a band band, everything was closed.
00:14:05So we were sitting there.
00:14:07In 15-20 days, Indivarji,
00:14:08we were going to sit there and sing.
00:14:12Nothing happened.
00:14:14I said, Maharaj, I want something unique.
00:14:18So Indivarji, I said,
00:14:20I have to tell you, but I won't tell you.
00:14:21You can write first.
00:14:23You can write and do what you can do.
00:14:25I'll take it, I'll take it, I'll take it.
00:14:27I'll take it, I'll take it.
00:14:29I said,
00:14:30let's now come to the point.
00:14:34We'll come to the musical and we'll decide the song.
00:14:39I'll say, okay.
00:14:41So Indivarji, I'll listen to one person,
00:14:43and I'll pass it.
00:14:44I'll say, I'm so sorry.
00:14:46I'll do anything.
00:14:47I'll say,
00:14:48I'll say, Maharaj, ready?
00:14:50I'll say, Indivarji, why don't you listen to me?
00:14:52I'll give you a name for me.
00:14:54I'll say, who?
00:14:55I'll say, what did you say?
00:14:57I'll say, what did you say?
00:14:57I'll play the rhythm.
00:14:59What did you do?
00:15:00This is what I want.
00:15:09Why are you missing my time, daddy?
00:15:12Come here, I'll.
00:15:14Okay, so this was actually your name?
00:15:16Yes.
00:15:17But it wasn't anything.
00:15:20It was a little bit of a grain.
00:15:23And it had that Arabic touch also.
00:15:25Arabic touch?
00:15:26Yes, it was.
00:15:27Who did you say, Leila?
00:15:29Yes, correct.
00:15:31Who is Leila?
00:15:31Is it Zinataman?
00:15:33Or is it?
00:15:34He's a doctor.
00:15:35His own daughter?
00:15:36Ah, correct, correct.
00:15:38Virush Khan's own daughter is called Leila.
00:15:41Leila.
00:15:41Now naturally, I'll say my daughter's name,
00:15:43I'll say no more.
00:15:45We'll have no confidence.
00:15:46Don't strike me.
00:15:47Okay.
00:15:49Okay.
00:15:49So, Kaviraj would say,
00:15:50what do you say,
00:15:52if you take this,
00:15:53this, that, that, that, that, that,
00:15:55and that, that, that, that, that,
00:15:56and that, that,
00:15:57we were writing for six months.
00:15:59We didn't have anything.
00:16:00We were so much friends.
00:16:01All friends.
00:16:02We, Prakash Meera,
00:16:05Arjanjan Ji,
00:16:07and we,
00:16:08in the three people's lives,
00:16:10we were cutting each other.
00:16:12Okay.
00:16:12We would say music,
00:16:13we would say writing.
00:16:15This was going.
00:16:17So, when it happened,
00:16:18I said,
00:16:18his daughter's name is Leila.
00:16:21Okay.
00:16:22And if I make Hindi or Hindi or a song,
00:16:24then you would like to make a song.
00:16:25I said,
00:16:26I said,
00:16:26I'll tell you,
00:16:27I'll tell you,
00:16:28I'll tell you.
00:16:29Okay.
00:16:31So, your association with Firoz Khan was also very nice.
00:16:35With everybody.
00:16:36We were,
00:16:37we were,
00:16:38we were,
00:16:38we were,
00:16:39we were,
00:16:40we were,
00:16:41we were,
00:16:42we were,
00:16:42we were,
00:16:43we were,
00:16:44we were,
00:16:45Shashi Kapoor ke saath,
00:16:47Jab Jab Phulkul ke le.
00:16:48Jab Jab Phulkul ke le.
00:16:49All they sing,
00:16:50Aamne Saamne.
00:16:51Aamne Saamne.
00:16:52And Jab Jab Phulkul ke le.
00:16:53What songs?
00:16:55What songs?
00:16:56Too good, too good.
00:16:57Aap ko sab se jyaadda,
00:16:58what is the one quality about,
00:17:01Firoz Khan that you remember as a filmmaker?
00:17:05Pehle to ye kaun ka ka,
00:17:06ka we are lucky to have a different kind of a director.
00:17:08Of different,
00:17:09different thoughts.
00:17:10He was a different type of a person.
00:17:12Yeah.
00:17:13In me western influence bhi thi,
00:17:15Hmm.
00:17:16Hmm.
00:17:16Dil wale aadmi thi,
00:17:18Hmm.
00:17:18Or he pahele producer thi,
00:17:19ke joo,
00:17:20producer bhi thi,
00:17:21director bhi thi,
00:17:21actor bhi thi.
00:17:22Hmm.
00:17:23Lekin harba,
00:17:23director, producer rhaayam.
00:17:25Kabhi paise ki parwa nahi ki.
00:17:27Ye chahiye hai chahiye.
00:17:29Es kail ye nahi.
00:17:30Hmm.
00:17:31Que producer daabu jata ta nahi nahi nahi nahi nahi nahi.
00:17:33Hmm.
00:17:34See, to hudha a,
00:17:35when producer kabhi aake bota hai,
00:17:36ye to bolega,
00:17:37tum thodha mission kam rakhna.
00:17:39Correct.
00:17:40Ye to bolega,
00:17:41Thorea jaldi kar de na.
00:17:42Hmm.
00:17:43Ousko kya maalum,
00:17:43paise khaan se aata hai?
00:17:44Yeah.
00:17:45Aase bhaut saari ho ki.
00:17:46Hmm.
00:17:47Ye is me nahi tha,
00:17:48himbe.
00:17:49He was always the director.
00:17:50Director.
00:17:51Grand chahiye sab.
00:17:52Grand everything.
00:17:52Sab grand chahiye.
00:17:53To hudha woh producer wali baat nahi nahi nahi nahi.
00:17:55Ghanji record karne ke liye,
00:17:57we went to London.
00:17:59Oh, okay.
00:18:00Best part the course psychological.
00:18:02Yehaan ke bade singer,
00:18:03he says, I don't want old timer,
00:18:06I want new.
00:18:07New.
00:18:08Yeah.
00:18:09So, Sabna Mukarji ainti.
00:18:11Hmm.
00:18:12Hmm.
00:18:13Leke gaya maha pe recording kiya,
00:18:14sab kuch kiya.
00:18:15Okay.
00:18:16Yehaan pe 2-3 ganhe maha pe kiya.
00:18:18Yeha kiya, sab kuch hoota rata.
00:18:20And when we were with them,
00:18:22all the pictures were played.
00:18:24Correct.
00:18:25Correct.
00:18:26All the pictures.
00:18:27Five pictures, kuch kiya thing.
00:18:28Hmm.
00:18:29But his music was always good.
00:18:31And he was a producer who used to play cricket.
00:18:36Yes.
00:18:37So, we were doing the background,
00:18:38and he told me how many scores were,
00:18:40how many scores were.
00:18:41Hmm.
00:18:42So, he told me, what's wrong with him?
00:18:43Why are there noising?
00:18:44I mean, and, and, and, and.
00:18:45So, he told me,
00:18:46he told me,
00:18:47he told me,
00:18:48oh my god, yeah.
00:18:49So, pack up.
00:18:50Okay.
00:18:51Pay them full amount.
00:18:53Let them watch the match.
00:18:55Watch the match.
00:18:56If you want to have fun here,
00:18:58watch TV Mongolia.
00:18:59Oh.
00:19:00Oh.
00:19:01So, it's kind of a...
00:19:02Binda Radmi.
00:19:03Hmm.
00:19:04Okay.
00:19:05I have seen all kinds of people.
00:19:09Okay.
00:19:10Great.
00:19:11Great.
00:19:12In our exposition,
00:19:13he told me,
00:19:14he said,
00:19:15he said,
00:19:16he said,
00:19:17yeah.
00:19:18I didn't know.
00:19:19You would have to do.
00:19:20Okay.
00:19:21I said,
00:19:22I'm going to try it.
00:19:23Okay.
00:19:24So,
00:19:25the black guy was asked.
00:19:26I said,
00:19:27he said,
00:19:28he said,
00:19:29the black guy's,
00:19:30the black guy's,
00:19:31he said,
00:19:32he said,
00:19:33he said,
00:19:34you have to tell me about the fabric,
00:19:35We will not tell you.
00:19:41Tell me Anand Ji, Shashi Kapoor is a very special relationship.
00:19:47I know.
00:19:49You both lived in South Bombay?
00:19:52Yes. We were very happy to have fun.
00:19:56We were a great guy.
00:19:58We were very happy to have Nanda.
00:20:01Nanda used to go out and go outdoors.
00:20:04For the premiere.
00:20:06So, what do we have to do in the airport?
00:20:08What do we have to do here?
00:20:09What do we have to do here?
00:20:10What do we have to do in the plane?
00:20:12I said, no, man.
00:20:14What are you doing today?
00:20:16What are you doing today?
00:20:18What are you doing today?
00:20:19So, they did it.
00:20:21So, when we went to the airport,
00:20:23we decided to go to the plane first.
00:20:25Hey, what are you doing today?
00:20:27So, we are going to go to the airport.
00:20:29We are all very good at work.
00:20:31I was a very good actor,
00:20:32and, then, the guy told me.
00:20:33He asked him,
00:20:34Mr. Shashi,
00:20:37I said,
00:20:38Mr. Shashi.
00:20:39Mr. Shashi.
00:20:40He said,
00:20:41What are you doing now?
00:20:43Mr. Shashi.
00:20:44Well, well, it'll be my name.
00:20:46What's your benefit?
00:20:47Mr. Shashi, what do you do?
00:20:49Mr. Shashi, what do you do?
00:20:51Mr. Shashi.
00:20:53Mr. Shashi do it.
00:20:55Mr. Shashi, what do you do?
00:20:56Mr. Shashi.
00:20:57I am doing it.
00:20:59I said to you, I will give you a song.
00:21:01I didn't have to do the whole song.
00:21:03I didn't have to do it.
00:21:05I didn't have to do it.
00:21:07I didn't have to do it.
00:21:09Done.
00:21:11We had to get to know that you had to do it.
00:21:13That was the song of the song.
00:21:17That was the song of the song.
00:21:21That was the song of the song.
00:21:23That was the song of the song.
00:21:25I said to you, I will show you.
00:21:29He said to me, I am a woman.
00:21:31I will show you.
00:21:33It was fun.
00:21:35I said to you, Suraj Ji,
00:21:37I will give you my hand.
00:21:39I will give you my hand.
00:21:41I will give you my hand.
00:21:43I will give you my hand.
00:21:45I will give you my hand.
00:21:47I will tell you what you will do.
00:21:49You are not working on Sunday.
00:21:51I will tell you, I will film.
00:21:53I will tell you all at night.
00:21:54When I have to do it in 9 minutes,
00:21:56I will tell you to tell why you are the two goings?
00:21:58I liked you.
00:21:59In-correct.
00:22:00I showed you everything.
00:22:01I said this.
00:22:02I liked it.
00:22:03I saw the picture was that.
00:22:04It was the king of kings.
00:22:06I was like!
00:22:07You are running this way.
00:22:09I knew it.
00:22:10I did it.
00:22:12I was editing I was written,
00:22:14I said I told you,
00:22:16I told you to show you on the train.
00:22:17I was like I will show you.
00:22:18I saw it.
00:22:19I mean, I had a pass.
00:22:20Yeah.
00:22:21It means that it was here.
00:22:23In the Mazzarck, in the Mazzarck, you did some serious.
00:22:27But it was always that we were going to the other side.
00:22:31So, they would say that I am an actor,
00:22:36who I am talking to the dialogue,
00:22:38but our Mrs. Director is talking to them.
00:22:41They are saying,
00:22:42come on, come on.
00:22:45So, he had a program in the college.
00:22:51So, he said, friends, today I have brought this composer,
00:22:56he is a Geet Sangeet, he is the main writer person.
00:22:59And he will talk about the music and everything.
00:23:02And call Mr. Anandji, he said, clap, we sing.
00:23:05He said, I should read a song in English.
00:23:10He said, what is the song in English?
00:23:12I will do it.
00:23:15So, I went and looked at him.
00:23:16What is Hindi?
00:23:19Geet Sangeet, Sangeet Mandel,
00:23:22something that is written as a student.
00:23:27I said, this is a work for Hindi songs.
00:23:33Our heroes were married in Hungary.
00:23:38I said, they are not Indian.
00:23:40They eat Indian food.
00:23:42So, how did they do it?
00:23:43Call him back.
00:23:45I said, I said, what is happening?
00:23:47What is happening?
00:23:49I said, I said, I said, I said, I will dance.
00:23:51I said, I will dance.
00:23:54I will sing Hindi songs.
00:23:56How do I know?
00:23:56I said, I will dance.
00:23:57I'll sing.
00:23:58I said, I will sing.
00:23:59I'm rich.
00:24:00I said, I listen to you, I'm taking a song.
00:24:03That's really good fun.
00:24:05No, it was just fun. Did you have, I mean, when you came in front of Raja Sahib,
00:24:21was there any particular song about which you would like to say something?
00:24:28No, not the same song.
00:24:29No.
00:24:30It was all the good songs.
00:24:31Yeah, I was a very good song.
00:24:32Yeah, Aajnevi was too good, and then the Indian Trail was also the Indian Trail.
00:24:36Which I was looking at the Hindustani culture.
00:24:39Yeah.
00:24:40That had timeless songs.
00:24:42He was a very sincere person.
00:24:44He would come to the house when he came from school,
00:24:47he would not feel like he would be actor.
00:24:48He would listen to the house when he would come to school,
00:24:52he would be actor, he would have done his work,
00:24:54and he would do his work.
00:24:55Correct.
00:24:56Yeah, she was like that, yeah.
00:24:59Which, which...
00:25:00It was very fun.
00:25:01We have all the time.
00:25:03One was saying that there was no competition.
00:25:06There was no competition.
00:25:08There was no problem.
00:25:10There was no problem.
00:25:11There was no problem.
00:25:13I said, take it, take it, take it, take it.
00:25:15Okay, okay.
00:25:16So I said,
00:25:18that when I started the first time,
00:25:21I asked Lakshmi,
00:25:23I asked the distributor,
00:25:25I asked the distributor,
00:25:27when I came to the jubilee,
00:25:29I asked the distributor,
00:25:31I gave the distributor.
00:25:33So I asked the distributor.
00:25:35Okay.
00:25:36Whistling Woods.
00:25:37I said, my first guru is Anandji.
00:25:40The first picture was the first picture.
00:25:42So I was confused.
00:25:44I wanted to say something.
00:25:47It was a lot of pictures.
00:25:49And I was like,
00:25:51I got a picture.
00:25:53What was the song you liked?
00:25:55Which was the song you liked?
00:25:57Because it was two or three songs
00:25:58that were very good.
00:26:01I kept the color.
00:26:03I kept the instrumentation.
00:26:06Luckily,
00:26:08we came here.
00:26:09We came here.
00:26:10We got the Santurwal.
00:26:11So you got a little Kashmir touch.
00:26:13Kashmir touch.
00:26:14I got a touch.
00:26:15So that was a color.
00:26:18And this was the first color picture.
00:26:19It was the first color picture.
00:26:21And this was the first color picture.
00:26:22In the Big CEO.
00:26:24It was the first color picture.
00:26:25After the first,
00:26:26the first color picture was starting to work.
00:26:30So after that,
00:26:31a new trend came.
00:26:33We said back in the beginning,
00:26:34there was a little music.
00:26:35Now we got to find a long music.
00:26:37When the music came out, it was so long, it felt like it was going to come.
00:26:43So, they showed the visuals and then they showed the entropy.
00:26:47So, it changed a little bit.
00:26:50So, it was all the work.
00:26:52It was a goal and it was a goal.
00:26:54Yes.
00:26:55This was the song.
00:26:57So, there was also a song in the beach, right?
00:27:01No.
00:27:02What was it?
00:27:03I had to do something.
00:27:05We were all with the geniuses.
00:27:07I had to take an idea.
00:27:09One shot.
00:27:10Four songs.
00:27:11Very good.
00:27:12I said, I'm going to take a look at it.
00:27:14What?
00:27:16What?
00:27:17What did you do?
00:27:18Why did you do this in English?
00:27:20I said, I was going to take one shot.
00:27:22I was going to take one shot.
00:27:24So, I said, you can do everything.
00:27:27You can do everything.
00:27:29Why can't you do it?
00:27:30Why do you understand it?
00:27:32I said, you can do it.
00:27:33Okay.
00:27:34By the way.
00:27:35That is a good deal.
00:27:36I said, I said, if I took one shot, I was not going to take one shot.
00:27:40You know?
00:27:41I was going to take a look at it.
00:27:42Take a look.
00:27:43I thought, I don't take one shot.
00:27:44Generally.
00:27:45I said, I didn't do that.
00:27:47I said, I didn't do that.
00:27:48I said, no, no.
00:27:49I said, I didn't call a cameraman.
00:27:51I said, you know, how is it?
00:27:53I said, you know, sir, we have thought of it.
00:27:55We have thought of it.
00:27:56We have thought of it.
00:27:57We have thought of it.
00:27:58How do we do that?
00:27:59What will we do in the car?
00:28:00We will take a little tire from the car.
00:28:03I said, it will go.
00:28:05It will not go.
00:28:07It will not go.
00:28:09You know it will go.
00:28:11I know it will go.
00:28:12Then you say, it will not happen.
00:28:15So, Suraj Ji said,
00:28:17let me leave.
00:28:18Why do we do it?
00:28:20We will do it.
00:28:21When we say it will go.
00:28:23I said,
00:28:24I should have taken a shot
00:28:26because I have no truck.
00:28:29We are taking a lot of work with others.
00:28:32I have to do a good job.
00:28:34When I say the song,
00:28:36I tell you the song.
00:28:38I tell you it will.
00:28:39I tell you, when it will give you?
00:28:40I will not try the other song.
00:28:42I tell you it will not.
00:28:44I said that it will not happen.
00:28:46I said, I will never study anything.
00:28:48What was it the same thing?
00:28:50I can only take ideas and start.
00:28:52I said, it will not be equipment.
00:28:55There will not be stabilizer.
00:28:56It will not happen.
00:28:57No, it was a film in your own personal life.
00:29:00400 people got a role in our own people.
00:29:03So, everything goes on.
00:29:04So, do you want to do it again?
00:29:07No, no, no, no.
00:29:07Okay.
00:29:08So, it doesn't happen that we will do it.
00:29:11But they were not able to do it.
00:29:12Just like when you get under walked shots.
00:29:16You understand?
00:29:17So, if someone comes to a job,
00:29:20the hero will go in and then the villain will do this.
00:29:24Okay.
00:29:25How do you do it?
00:29:27Oh, man, we will do it directly.
00:29:30We will do it, right?
00:29:32I said, how do I do it?
00:29:34For my knowledge, I understand.
00:29:36Nostick?
00:29:38Nostick.
00:29:39So, I said, I put a tank on it.
00:29:42And I said, what is the thickness of the glass?
00:29:46I said, well-sitting.
00:29:48I said, don't do music.
00:29:51You don't do music.
00:29:52You don't do music.
00:29:53I said, look.
00:29:55I see.
00:29:56I see.
00:29:57I said, what do you do?
00:29:59I said, what do you do?
00:30:01I'm talking to my phone.
00:30:02I said, whatever.
00:30:03I said, it's your entire family.
00:30:05Glass is broken.
00:30:06I said, there's no thickness.
00:30:07The water is not in the water.
00:30:08The water is here.
00:30:09If you put the water in the first place,
00:30:10you will be in the water.
00:30:11But not?
00:30:12It's not going to happen.
00:30:14They say that it's gone or that it's gone or that it's gone.
00:30:16So I said, you don't study.
00:30:18If you research a job,
00:30:20you can call an expert.
00:30:22You can do it with your work.
00:30:24You can do it with your work.
00:30:26So it's not going to happen.
00:30:28Sometimes you say,
00:30:30what do you say?
00:30:32What do you say?
00:30:36How about Shami Kapoor?
00:30:38Shami ji, yes.
00:30:40Love master.
00:30:42Govinda.
00:30:44One day we were going,
00:30:46we had Shami ji.
00:30:48Govinda is going,
00:30:50I said, this item is just like
00:30:52Divaag.
00:30:54Shami ji.
00:30:56Manu, I'm going to sing this song.
00:30:58Okay.
00:31:00I said, where did you go?
00:31:02Where did you go?
00:31:04Where did you go?
00:31:06Correct.
00:31:08I said, I'll do it.
00:31:10I was living in Mangalwadi.
00:31:12There was our music.
00:31:14So there was no safety man.
00:31:16Right.
00:31:18So when something happened,
00:31:20we had to go there.
00:31:22We had to sit there.
00:31:24We had to sit there.
00:31:26All the things we did.
00:31:28We had to sit there.
00:31:30We had to sit there.
00:31:32And we had to sit there.
00:31:34So we had to sit there.
00:31:36We had to sit there.
00:31:38And to look at the music.
00:31:40Yes.
00:31:42Yes.
00:31:44Yes.
00:31:45Yes.
00:31:46Yes.
00:31:47It was fun to see that you had a trophy party.
00:31:51How many years ago?
00:31:5350 years.
00:31:54How many years ago?
00:31:56It was completely closed.
00:31:58It was a very long time ago.
00:32:01And it was celebrated that day.
00:32:04He got married.
00:32:07He got married.
00:32:09Okay.
00:32:10How nice.
00:32:11We got married.
00:32:14Right.
00:32:15Correct.
00:32:16Correct.
00:32:17We were just a 6 hours a day,
00:32:20and we were all dancing.
00:32:23And we were all dancing.
00:32:24That's right.
00:32:25How do you think about your songs out?
00:32:29Public.
00:32:30Where you go and play,
00:32:33people are dancing.
00:32:35The first song is Chay Paso Chay Dhuru.
00:32:40Samrat Chandragupta, the first picture.
00:32:43So, I went to the theatre and looked at the first film.
00:32:47And I was like, what is this?
00:32:50So, I said, how did I come to mind?
00:32:53How did I come to mind? How did I come to mind?
00:32:56I went to the mother and said, I didn't understand my mother.
00:32:59I was like, how did I come to mind?
00:33:04So, I said, what is the best thing for everyone?
00:33:08Yes, thanks.
00:33:10You were the first person, Kalyan Ghibhaya and you.
00:33:17Amitabh Bachchan, the stage show.
00:33:21Yes, yes.
00:33:23The show business, we all started.
00:33:27First of all, the actors in college days,
00:33:31we used to call him a great day.
00:33:34We used to call him a great day.
00:33:38We used to call him a great day.
00:33:40So, we used to call him a great day.
00:33:41What was the price of the day?
00:33:43What would happen?
00:33:45I don't know.
00:33:46I had to call him a great day.
00:33:47The college budget is around 500 rupees or 1,000 rupees.
00:33:50Yes, yes.
00:33:51I told him, we don't have the funds.
00:33:52We have enough funds in this, we have enough to work.
00:33:54You have to get an entertaining program.
00:33:57So, I just asked him,
00:33:59Mr. Mer singer, 100 rupees.
00:34:01Ache.
00:34:02So we took our personal family, we had to bring our car and we had to take a hundred rupees and the aerobic channel,
00:34:09that's what happened.
00:34:11So we went and we had a bunch of girls, and we called them to give them to 1.500 rupees.
00:34:17We all were happy and we were happy.
00:34:19We were getting so much money.
00:34:21This was all the money for us.
00:34:24So how did you see stage shows?
00:34:27After that, we thought we had to do something.
00:34:31I thought that my father didn't ask me if I wanted to launch this or what I wanted to do.
00:34:37We wanted to become a music creator and a singer.
00:34:40So I thought about what to do.
00:34:42So I thought that my brother was born in the boarding, good looking, smart, handsome.
00:34:48So I thought that I would become a hero.
00:34:50Oh, okay.
00:34:52I was thinking about everything.
00:34:53So I thought that my brother would become a hero and give me a hero.
00:34:58So I thought that my hero would not be a hero.
00:35:02So I was like a one day.
00:35:04I was sitting there and I said, what will happen?
00:35:07Why are you talking to me?
00:35:09I said, I thought that my brother would become a hero.
00:35:14So I didn't become a hero.
00:35:16I didn't have any hero.
00:35:18I didn't have any height.
00:35:19I didn't have any idea.
00:35:21So I thought that my brother was a miracle.
00:35:24So I thought that my brother was a miracle.
00:35:26I said, what will I do?
00:35:28I said, look, a man is doing everything for the surgery.
00:35:32I said, right?
00:35:33I said, yes, right.
00:35:34I said, how are you going to work with me?
00:35:36I said, okay.
00:35:38You will take your surgery if you don't.
00:35:41So they were able to get up with me.
00:35:43Okay, okay.
00:35:44So how are stage shows coming?
00:35:46From that stage, we started a little bit of stress.
00:35:49We started with Gujarati group in the 19th century,
00:35:54we started with Gujarati group and Marathi group.
00:36:02At the beginning, we were in the country style.
00:36:07We were sitting at the stage, we were not sitting at the seat,
00:36:09we were sitting at the table, we were sitting at the table,
00:36:11we were all looking at the table.
00:36:13He was out of the house, he was out of the house, he was done with him.
00:36:16So in childhood, a lot of people work in school.
00:36:20They were young, they were sitting in the house,
00:36:23so they were different things to learn from him.
00:36:26They were working on how to do things, but they had to go to music.
00:36:31Now, what do we need to do to music?
00:36:34So we thought that if we could do any program,
00:36:38if we give our money, we don't need to do our finances.
00:36:41So, what happened to us?
00:36:44We had to do it.
00:36:46We had to organize a party,
00:36:49and we had to organize a party group,
00:36:53and we had to do it.
00:36:56We had to do it.
00:36:59We had to do it.
00:37:01We had to do it.
00:37:04We started training and we had to do it.
00:37:08Now, what happened to this time?
00:37:11First, Mukesh Ji and Hemant Kungar came to this place where they were singing, and the other kids were singing.
00:37:18That was the past.
00:37:20Today, the orchestra is going to be in the world.
00:37:23What is Mukesh or what is going to be done?
00:37:26When people get to know what we have given to them,
00:37:30then we have all our roots and roots.
00:37:34So, everything happened.
00:37:36Right.
00:37:37I was doing this, I was doing this, I was doing this.
00:37:40I was doing so much with Nagin Kibin Joba Ji.
00:37:42Yes.
00:37:43It was a Cleveland instrument.
00:37:44I was telling myself, what is happening in the world?
00:37:48I had a lot of shock.
00:37:51What is happening?
00:37:52What is happening?
00:37:53What is happening?
00:37:54What is happening?
00:37:55What is happening in the sound?
00:37:57When the TV came, it got a lot of confusion.
00:38:01Light light is faster than sound.
00:38:03Yes.
00:38:04I said, how do you match?
00:38:05Light light.
00:38:06Light.
00:38:07Picture is coming.
00:38:08Right.
00:38:08So, I was looking at the electronic waves.
00:38:11They convert the voice into this thing.
00:38:14This way, it doesn't mean anything.
00:38:17It was shock.
00:38:18So, everyone thought about it.
00:38:19So, one instrument came.
00:38:21One day, the popular magazine came.
00:38:24One instrument came.
00:38:25One instrument came.
00:38:26One instrument came.
00:38:27One instrument came.
00:38:28One instrument came.
00:38:29One instrument came.
00:38:30One instrument came.
00:38:31One instrument came.
00:38:32One keyboard came.
00:38:33One instrument came.
00:38:34One instrument came.
00:38:39But, that noise made.
00:38:43There was no intention today.
00:38:44It was a coincidence, Chitra Gupji.
00:38:48Chitra Gupji.
00:38:49Chitra Gupji's picture was kept in his head,
00:38:52he was sitting in his head and he was sitting in his head and he was sitting in his head.
00:38:55Now, there was a beat in his head.
00:38:56Now, there was a beat in his head.
00:38:59There was a beat in four notes,
00:39:00and Chitra Gupji's song goes up and goes up and goes up.
00:39:03He was still singing.
00:39:05So Dilipji was his assistant, our Gujarati.
00:39:08He saw this instrument.
00:39:10So he said, it will be fun.
00:39:11His song went up.
00:39:13He made a picture of Nagal Chokhti.
00:39:17He made a picture of Nagal Chokhti.
00:39:18He made a picture of these people in the film.
00:39:22He said, why is this song going up?
00:39:24He said, one song goes up.
00:39:27He said, it's like a song.
00:39:30He said, it's like a song.
00:39:31So he said, he made a picture of a song.
00:39:34So Nagin?
00:39:35Yes, it was Nagin.
00:39:36Folkwala.
00:39:39But at the beginning of 4 weeks, there was a picture of a picture.
00:39:43Someone told us that now the picture is going to be going.
00:39:46Our heart is going to be going.
00:39:48And you say, it's like a name.
00:39:49We're going to be laughing.
00:39:51I said, it's not going.
00:39:52The name is going to be our name.
00:39:54So, slowly and slowly, we knew that Nagin was not popular.
00:39:57So, people were surprised.
00:39:59Who did it, what did it, what did it, what did it.
00:40:01Wow.
00:40:02Different people came to me and had a lot of fun.
00:40:05I asked, how many people came to me?
00:40:07I said, it's like 3,000.
00:40:09Yes, it will be good.
00:40:10Parsi will talk about technical.
00:40:12And if there is a musical, it's like music.
00:40:16Scale changes or not.
00:40:17It was all the same.
00:40:19So, we did it, it was a little bit of a show business.
00:40:24Showing is good.
00:40:26So, it was a charity show or something like Dilip Ji or Ayn.
00:40:32So, we kept our program every time.
00:40:36So, Dilip Ji said it was very good.
00:40:39That's true.
00:40:40So, film industry, you were able to take Amitabh Bachchan and Stars.
00:40:46You were able to do stage shows.
00:40:49I think you did not do the first time.
00:40:52We were able to do that.
00:40:54Amitabh Bachchan, how did you do that?
00:40:56I mean, how did you put that together?
00:40:57Because Amitabh Bachchan did all the shows with you at the beginning.
00:41:00Yeah, yeah.
00:41:02You see, they also wanted to sing.
00:41:03There was a struggling period.
00:41:05They came here and sat there and their mother also came here.
00:41:08So, it was like that.
00:41:09We were here with Yotish.
00:41:12We were here with Yotish.
00:41:13Okay.
00:41:15So, this one day came,
00:41:16so, I was able to see what it was like.
00:41:19I said, where did you get it?
00:41:20Where did you get it?
00:41:22I said, what?
00:41:23I said, this is a person's name.
00:41:26So, we were able to see what it was like.
00:41:29So, at that time, Amitabh Bachchan didn't know anything about it?
00:41:32No, it was a struggling period.
00:41:33Okay.
00:41:34But then, it was like that.
00:41:35So, after that, it came, the first picture.
00:41:38After that.
00:41:38Zanjeeer.
00:41:39Zanjeeer.
00:41:40So, after that, it was all done.
00:41:43So, I said, what are you going to say?
00:41:45We were going to say,
00:41:46Zanjeeer, listen to me, what are you going to say?
00:41:48So, I said, yes, you have a lot of names.
00:41:50So, I said, if you have a lot of names,
00:41:52I said, if you have a lot of names,
00:41:53you have a lot of names,
00:41:54you have a lot of names.
00:41:55So, I said, how many names will be?
00:41:57Dilip Kumar, how much?
00:41:58I said, how many names are.
00:42:00So, I said, Dilip Kumar's name is not a name.
00:42:02He is famous.
00:42:04I said, famous name is not a name.
00:42:07He said, you will go to the world.
00:42:08Okay.
00:42:09I said, you will go to the world.
00:42:12He will go to the world.
00:42:13He will go to the Hindu side.
00:42:14He will not know.
00:42:15So, I said, the story is gone.
00:42:16Now, we made a picture of Prakash Ji.
00:42:19So, Prakash Ji, we are a little bit concerned about them.
00:42:22So, we see that they are good and they are good and they are good and they are good.
00:42:26So, they say, Prakash Ji, your name is your name and your name is your name.
00:42:31So, I said, you have a lot of names.
00:42:33I said, you are saying, what are you saying?
00:42:35I said, you are going to the world.
00:42:37I said, you will not be saying that.
00:42:39He will not be saying that.
00:42:41He will make a picture of his own.
00:42:43So, the picture was in western style.
00:42:45Vendetta.
00:42:47Vendetta.
00:42:48Vendetta.
00:42:49Yes.
00:42:50So, I said, do this work and take it.
00:42:54Then it will go.
00:42:56I said, I said, you are not a market.
00:42:59I said, you are not a market.
00:43:00I said, you are not a different picture.
00:43:02I did.
00:43:03I said, what is that?
00:43:04That is the work.
00:43:05So, how do you believe it?
00:43:07The police are closed.
00:43:11What is closed?
00:43:14Sean Connery is the hero of James Bond's picture.
00:43:18Everyone is closed.
00:43:20These people are very true.
00:43:23They are very difficult to understand.
00:43:25That is the image of the physiognomicalism.
00:43:28Okay.
00:43:29This is the whole thing.
00:43:30Okay.
00:43:31So, this is the whole thing.
00:43:33So, we took it.
00:43:35If we could have a story, we could have a story.
00:43:38So, they said, this is my type of musical musical.
00:43:41No music, no music, no music, no music, no music.
00:43:43Why do we do the picture?
00:43:45I think Rajkumar has not said that.
00:43:48Yes, all of them.
00:43:50Dharamandre Ji was doing another film.
00:43:53Yes.
00:43:53This type of film.
00:43:54Now, this picture is also a new producer.
00:43:56Which one is doing.
00:43:58The picture was gone in Lombi.
00:44:00I don't know how many of them were.
00:44:03Yes.
00:44:04So, I didn't know.
00:44:06I said, this is the first picture.
00:44:08You know, this is the 12,000 feet.
00:44:11What do you think you are sitting in 18 years?
00:44:13This is not a picture.
00:44:15You have to see your face.
00:44:16You have to see your face.
00:44:17This is a different type of picture.
00:44:19So, I didn't know before.
00:44:21I didn't know before.
00:44:22I told everyone about it.
00:44:23I was going to kill it.
00:44:24I was going to kill it.
00:44:25And I was going to kill it.
00:44:28And I was going to kill it.
00:44:30So, I was going to kill it.
00:44:31I said, no, no.
00:44:32I didn't do that.
00:44:33I said, let me see.
00:44:34I said, I said,
00:44:35if you have to kill it,
00:44:36then you can kill it.
00:44:37If you have to kill it,
00:44:39and you like it,
00:44:40then you will come to kill it.
00:44:42And I showed it.
00:44:45And people felt good.
00:44:46What did we say?
00:44:47The family was very long.
00:44:49And everyone was able to kill it.
00:44:51And I was able to kill it.
00:44:53And I was able to kill it.
00:44:55And then the inspector was turned back.
00:44:57Okay.
00:44:58In Bombay, we were also doing shows.
00:45:00It was a big show,
00:45:02where we were going to be.
00:45:03Because we were just arranged,
00:45:05orchestra, singers, singers.
00:45:07And we were in a comfortable zone.
00:45:10So, we were always talking to him.
00:45:14When I recorded it,
00:45:16we said,
00:45:17now we will have money.
00:45:19We will do something.
00:45:20So, Pranth Ji didn't care about it.
00:45:22Prakash Ji told us
00:45:24in 1978,
00:45:25that you are a man who is a man who is.
00:45:27I will not give up.
00:45:29So, let's do this work.
00:45:31I will give you a direct job.
00:45:32Okay.
00:45:34So, Prakash Ji,
00:45:35I and Amit Ji,
00:45:39my brother,
00:45:40and my brother,
00:45:41we went for it.
00:45:42When I went there,
00:45:43there was a lot of work.
00:45:44I was doing something.
00:45:46I was doing something in seminaries,
00:45:47I was doing something.
00:45:48Yes.
00:45:49I saw a Yale banner in London.
00:45:51We were sitting in a scene,
00:45:52and we were sitting in a scene.
00:45:53We were talking about these people.
00:45:55We give value to the stage,
00:45:56but we don't give value to the stage.
00:45:58So, Pranth Ji said,
00:46:00we don't do anything.
00:46:01They were shocked.
00:46:02And our Guru Ji said,
00:46:04we have time for 14 years.
00:46:05We are going to go to the stage.
00:46:07I said,
00:46:0714 years,
00:46:07someone is going to go to the stage.
00:46:08I said,
00:46:08look,
00:46:10we started our program from there.
00:46:12Okay.
00:46:13go to the stage and show us.
00:46:15Amit Ji told us,
00:46:17we were going to go and say,
00:46:18we are very happy with the routine.
00:46:20We will give you a song.
00:46:22I said,
00:46:22my father,
00:46:23I don't have anything to do with my work.
00:46:25I don't do it.
00:46:26I said,
00:46:27do it.
00:46:28How will it do?
00:46:31I said,
00:46:31what is your actor?
00:46:32You have to remember the song.
00:46:34You have to remember the song.
00:46:35You have to remember the song.
00:46:36You have to remember the song.
00:46:37You have to remember the song.
00:46:39You have to remember the song.
00:46:41It was great.
00:46:42I think it was 10-10am,
00:46:442-3am,
00:46:46nearly rehearsal.
00:46:47You have to remember the song.
00:46:49Okay.
00:46:50You have to remember the song.
00:46:51Without it.
00:46:52Let's go.
00:46:53How much of the song is going to go.
00:46:56We have to do it and do it.
00:46:58We have to start the program.
00:47:00Okay.
00:47:00We have to continue our program.
00:47:02One after day, one after day.
00:47:03Amit Ji, there was the energy and energy.
00:47:07No, I mean those are great.
00:47:09These are great.
00:47:11We all know what's good.
00:47:13What is happening at the stage?
00:47:14What's happening at the airport?
00:47:16We have to start to get everything.
00:47:17Every detail.
00:47:18Huh?
00:47:18Every detail is their life.
00:47:20Every detail is it?
00:47:20Yes, he knows all of the details.
00:47:21It's not the case.
00:47:24We are the principal of that,
00:47:25that we will do this,
00:47:26it will stay the program.
00:47:28So, we will continue the program.
00:47:29Now we will practice it.
00:47:30They will family members who are exposed,
00:47:33and they will be left with his hand in hand.
00:47:35This has been continuance.
00:47:37No, but nothing to do with your programmes.
00:47:43Nobody is there. Not even Rishi Kapoor, nobody.
00:47:46So, if you are doing a show for 10 days, then no one will be there?
00:47:51No stage in the stage.
00:47:55Nobody will come on stage, oh, hi everybody!
00:48:01Okay, okay.
00:48:03Then the brand was over, everyone knows. Hope 86, did you see?
00:48:07Yes, Hope 86.
00:48:08That was an exam for everyone.
00:48:10No one had to say anything.
00:48:12Right.
00:48:13They told us what they were doing.
00:48:15Because everyone knows that there are a lot of shows, a lot of shows, a lot of shows, a lot of shows.
00:48:19Correct.
00:48:20There were 20,000 crowds, 30,000 crowds.
00:48:22Correct.
00:48:23And then there were TV also.
00:48:25Now what would they tell us about how they would go?
00:48:27But in that time, Amita was a must for everyone.
00:48:31Yes.
00:48:33Yes.
00:48:34And he was so sincere.
00:48:35Yeah.
00:48:36He is very calm, time to time, he will do everything.
00:48:39So, my uncle was very controversial at that time.
00:48:44Because when she was up and left, she didn't like him dancing to my uncle.
00:48:53That was controversial at that time.
00:48:55No, no.
00:48:56No, no.
00:48:57Picture job bunny.
00:48:58Yes, picture job bunny.
00:48:59Yes, picture job bunny.
00:49:00So, she was very angry with that song.
00:49:01Yes.
00:49:02So, she was very angry with that song.
00:49:03Yes.
00:49:04Look at that Korakaka, there was a picture of someone.
00:49:06There was a picture of someone in Bangla.
00:49:08Yes.
00:49:09It was a song.
00:49:10Now, we had to go to Meerajiman Korakaka.
00:49:12I said, I said, my uncle, what is it?
00:49:14I said, this is going to happen.
00:49:16I said, this is going to happen.
00:49:17And you will go to the picture.
00:49:19Yes.
00:49:20So, I said, if I'm going to go, I will get my teeth.
00:49:22Yes.
00:49:23So, I got a two-year-old award for two years.
00:49:26Yeah.
00:49:27Korakaka.
00:49:28Korakaka.
00:49:29It's the first.
00:49:30It's the first.
00:49:31She got the award.
00:49:32Okay.
00:49:33So, I came to go and say, sorry.
00:49:34Can't forget.
00:49:35But I don't predict anything in advance.
00:49:39We can get a limited limit.
00:49:41Poor people.
00:49:42I can't see my options.
00:49:43But the same is the only question.
00:49:44Yeah.
00:49:45It was also the only song I saw.
00:49:46She was very against that song.
00:49:47Not that.
00:49:48It was my opinion of my song.
00:49:49It's not that.
00:49:50I won't do it.
00:49:51It's not my opinion.
00:49:52It's not like that.
00:49:54Now, I work there.
00:49:55I will tell them about myself.
00:49:57My husband kind of knew my feelings.
00:49:58I didn't like that.
00:49:59But I did not even write.
00:50:00It's wrong.
00:50:01So, this is the same.
00:50:03But, I think it had to be done.
00:50:04What was that?
00:50:05In Meerajiman Korakaka.
00:50:06They gave him its own item.
00:50:07And they gave him so much.
00:50:08They gave him an item.
00:50:09He had to come out.
00:50:10He was taking the stage and taking him to the stage.
00:50:15One of the characters, who was small.
00:50:18All of the audience was in all.
00:50:22The whole show was very entertaining because you can meet Amita Bachchan on the stage.
00:50:27Correct.
00:50:28You understand?
00:50:29Yes.
00:50:30So, who was small and who was big.
00:50:32Then he came to the stage, and he told them, who was about to call him, who was about to call him, who was about to call him, who was about to call him.
00:50:37So, this song becomes a 20-minute item.
00:50:40Item, correct.
00:50:41So, he was playing all the time.
00:50:44When he was playing, he was playing all the time.
00:50:46The whole question was, he was very sincere, he said, he is late.
00:50:53Nothing like that.
00:50:54When he was dead, he came here for three days, and he was going to the show in America.
00:51:00Oh.
00:51:00Okay.
00:51:01You understand?
00:51:02So, then he came to the show, to work there, to work there, to work there.
00:51:06So, one day, find the day, I said, daddy F.T.K.
00:51:09I said, daddy F.T.K.
00:51:10I said, daddy F.T.K.
00:51:11I said, daddy F.T.K.
00:51:12I said, now we have a lot of fun on stage.
00:51:13Yeah.
00:51:14So, I said, I said, Anil Kapoor, Anil and other days, we have a new item.
00:51:21Amita Bachchan singing Anil Kapoor songs.
00:51:24Okay.
00:51:24On the stage.
00:51:25Yeah.
00:51:25And Anil Kapoor singing Amita J.R.
00:51:27Okay.
00:51:28It was a novelty.
00:51:30I got a lot of fun.
00:51:31Okay.
00:51:32Okay.
00:51:33So, you had a very good time with everybody in the country.
00:51:36Everybody.
00:51:37There is no...
00:51:38What is it for yourself?
00:51:40Okay.
00:51:41We are our friends, but we are taking another music.
00:51:44Okay.
00:51:45We are doing this.
00:51:46Okay.
00:51:47We are doing this.
00:51:48Okay.
00:51:49You are doing this.
00:51:50You are enjoying your life.
00:51:51Where is it for you?
00:51:52Where is it for you?
00:51:53In the world, you sing a song and you sing in your mind.
00:51:56Um...
00:51:57That is not a small thing.
00:51:58It is so powerful.
00:51:59It is not a sign of that.
00:52:00But it is not a sign.
00:52:01Why does it happen?
00:52:02Anil Kapoor.
00:52:03Aninji, bhaat, a great hit song you also gave about Rajesh Khanna did.
00:52:08But you were not friends in Rajesh Khanna.
00:52:11Rajesh Khanna was formed from our...
00:52:12From here.
00:52:13Who made her first picture?
00:52:15What made her first?
00:52:16Oh!
00:52:17Raj?
00:52:18Raj.
00:52:19That was from here.
00:52:20Salve, go and come and come.
00:52:22Lovely song.
00:52:23And then, in the beginning, there was a success.
00:52:27It was a big success, it was a big success.
00:52:30You can't get into it.
00:52:32When it was a big success, it was a big success.
00:52:33There were a lot of people who were like this.
00:52:35They came like this.
00:52:36They came like this.
00:52:37They came like this.
00:52:40So, it became slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly.
00:52:48Rajesh Khanna made a beautiful picture of Rajesh Khanna.
00:52:52Saffar?
00:52:53Saffar? Rajesh Khanna had an era.
00:52:55Asit Sando, the director was your friend.
00:52:59Yes, Asit.
00:53:00Yes, yes.
00:53:01They were very good with you.
00:53:04Yes, they were technically involved a little while.
00:53:07How did they take shots?
00:53:09How did they take shots?
00:53:14They told me, I take the first shot.
00:53:16I make a lot of rehearsal and then first take, for me it is okay.
00:53:21Then the director, for their satisfaction, I take, but I will use the first one.
00:53:27Asit Sando.
00:53:28So, then all of those things are going to be like, what are they going to do?
00:53:31What are they going to do?
00:53:33So, I think technically you are involved into the other side.
00:53:38Yes.
00:53:39So, I want to know one thing.
00:53:40If you have a glass of water, you can see the glass of water.
00:53:42Yes.
00:53:42A glass of water.
00:53:43Yes.
00:53:43It doesn't get to me.
00:53:45It doesn't get to me.
00:53:46I want to take shots.
00:53:47Yes.
00:53:48And it is a challenge for you.
00:53:50You can give me.
00:53:51Yes.
00:53:51Well, yes, I will do it.
00:53:53So, I am going to understand what I am going to do in the police paper.
00:53:56I am going to say, this is going to happen, this is going to happen, this is going to happen.
00:54:00The sound is not going to happen, it is going to happen.
00:54:03So, my dad had a phone call, my dad had a little bit of time, but I will do it.
00:54:08I am going to say, I know you will do it.
00:54:10So, one day I was working on the phone, I was working on the phone.
00:54:15I am going to the recording.
00:54:16So, I am going to say, this is going to happen.
00:54:19You got your sound.
00:54:21I got your sound.
00:54:22So, I am going to leave everything.
00:54:23I am going to say, what do I do?
00:54:24I am going to say, I am going to do something.
00:54:27Okay.
00:54:27I am going to finish the recording, I am going to sit down and I am going to do it.
00:54:30What happened was that, when I was going to put water on the floor,
00:54:33it was not in the rhythm.
00:54:35It was not in the rhythm.
00:54:36That you were not getting it, but you were getting it from the chani.
00:54:39Yes.
00:54:40From the...
00:54:41Yeah.
00:54:43So, I am going to get a big award.
00:54:45Yeah.
00:54:47How nice, how nice.
00:54:49Because that you used in the picture?
00:54:52Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:52Okay.
00:54:53No, no.
00:54:53The whole thing was about, you know, we were enjoying it.
00:54:56Yes.
00:54:56I am not working in the commercially, I am not doing it.
00:54:59We were enjoying it with Amita Bachchan,
00:55:01we were enjoying Shashi Kapu.
00:55:03Everybody and everyone, we were enjoying it.
00:55:06Yeah, yeah.
00:55:07Safar had some fabulous songs of yours.
00:55:10Yes, Safar.
00:55:11I am the same.
00:55:12We are enjoying it.
00:55:13We are enjoying it.
00:55:14We are enjoying it, our life.
00:55:15Yeah.
00:55:16Lovely songs.
00:55:17Okay, I was like,
00:55:19I was like,
00:55:20a rapper just saying,
00:55:21you sit down and sit down and you don't feel scared of asking.
00:55:25Okay.
00:55:26I am not asking.
00:55:27So, I am not asking.
00:55:29I am asking.
00:55:30So, after the rapper just go,
00:55:32Absolutely.
00:55:33You can get something good.
00:55:34Correct.
00:55:35Anand ji bhai,
00:55:36I have to ask you about your brother.
00:55:38Kalyan ji, Anand ji,
00:55:40anand ji,
00:55:41anand ji,
00:55:42anand ji,
00:55:43anand ji,
00:55:44anand ji,
00:55:45anand ji,
00:55:46anand ji,
00:55:47anand ji,
00:55:48anand ji,
00:55:49anand ji,
00:55:50anand ji.
00:55:51Yeah.
00:55:52He was only 72 years old when he died.
00:56:02So, he went very quickly.
00:56:05What does he do, what does he do, what does he do, what does he do, what does he do, what does he do.
00:56:11So, what do you tell us, it is Kalyan Ji and Anand Ji together.
00:56:19We don't have a lot of family, we have to give a lot of respect.
00:56:25I don't like it, I don't like it.
00:56:27Kalyan Ji and Anand Ji, how did you do your music, who was the music director?
00:56:44I don't like it.
00:56:45After the hour, Kalyan Ji was a little kid who was a big brother, who was a young man.
00:56:52He was playing music.
00:56:55So, he thought that something is something he was giving.
00:56:58He gave a picture.
00:56:59He said, you have music.
00:57:01He said, you have music.
00:57:02He said, I can understand.
00:57:04You can give it.
00:57:05So, at the beginning, there were four or five pictures of Kalyan Ji by the way.
00:57:08But they had both of them together.
00:57:09Correct.
00:57:10When the music shows and the music shows,
00:57:12while the music shows,
00:57:13with two or three songs,
00:57:15they were told me that the song of Chay Paso was a bit light.
00:57:19At those times, They were few strings.
00:57:21and we are making four films. One with Raj Kapoor, one with Dilip Kumar, one with Chamu Kappoor.
00:57:33And we are making four films, one with Raj Kapoor, one with Dilip Kumar, one with Chamu Kapoor,
00:57:47one with Chamu Kappoor, one with Raj Kapoor. So Raj Kapoor has Shankar education.
00:57:55We will be together, we will be together, we will be together.
00:57:59We will be together, we will be together, we will be together,
00:58:01we will be together with Galaan Ji, two brothers, we will be together with them.
00:58:06So we have already established, what we will do, well that is my look out.
00:58:10That is my work.
00:58:11So the work of both together, we will be together automatically.
00:58:15So how did you do the work?
00:58:18How did you do the work?
00:58:20Which one was made, which one was made, which one was made?
00:58:23No, no, at the beginning of the day, we were making two tunes.
00:58:27The writers made something, they made something, they made something, they made something.
00:58:32The director, what did you like?
00:58:34Sometimes the two of us didn't like it.
00:58:36Then they made something.
00:58:38So what did you like?
00:58:40He is the main person, the second person is helping.
00:58:43And in the house, there was an ego in the house,
00:58:47that you can play radio, that you can play radio.
00:58:49You can play radio, that you can play radio.
00:58:51So it was not that some of the songs you made or some of the songs you made or some of the songs you made?
00:58:56No, no.
00:58:56The songs were different from both of us.
00:58:58Then the song was passed, that was the song.
00:59:00Okay, okay.
00:59:02Like Chai Pass, Flukli, Viker's name was the song.
00:59:06It was the song.
00:59:08So this is the song.
00:59:10Okay.
00:59:11But there was no ego there.
00:59:13Okay.
00:59:14It was the song that, you know, what is it, what is it, what is it, what is it, what is it.
00:59:17Now we were big brothers and brothers,
00:59:21the finance section was the department of the department.
00:59:24So you, Kalyan Ji, Anand Ji is an entity,
00:59:33one of the two of us,
00:59:35it was a person in the business.
00:59:37So you,
00:59:39So you,
00:59:40Kalyan Ji, Anand Ji are an entity,
00:59:42one of the same people,
00:59:44actually.
00:59:45Actually,
00:59:46It's all capacity, not.
00:59:52One or two.
00:59:56It's a way I think.
01:00:01There're conflict between him, right?
01:00:04Correct.
01:00:05Quite.
01:00:06Correct.
01:00:07Now, when much of you can find Jaisesh Sh Dustin Kapoor, awards Manoj ji, Shamhi Kapoor,
01:00:15and your brother, Kalyanji Bhai.
01:00:17Kalyanji Bhai.
01:00:18So, what do you think of life now?
01:00:20Dekhye, this life's power has given us so much.
01:00:24We are coming from a common family, simple family,
01:00:27and not related with music or anything.
01:00:31Right.
01:00:32The childhood was very soon unknowingly,
01:00:34but it was not a profession.
01:00:36So, when we got this, we got this success.
01:00:38And in one house, there were 3-3 numbers.
01:00:40I, Kalyanji Bhai, was very good.
01:00:44It was very classical song.
01:00:46We had a lot of good songs,
01:00:48and we had a lot of great songs.
01:00:50And we had to be a good song.
01:00:52We had to be a good song for the entire world.
01:00:54So, the songs were so good.
01:00:56But we had to be like,
01:00:58we had to be a good song,
01:01:00but we had to be a good song.
01:01:02We had to sing songs.
01:01:04We had to sing songs,
01:01:06and we had to sing songs.
01:01:08And the biggest thing is,
01:01:10we had no money.
01:01:12But we had a lot of fun.
01:01:14And we had a lot of fun.
01:01:16We had a lot of fun.
01:01:17We had a lot of fun.
01:01:19We had a lot of fun.
01:01:21We had a lot of fun.
01:01:23We had a lot of fun.
01:01:25We had a lot of fun.
01:01:26You had to see how many people were sitting there.
01:01:29How many times did you come here?
01:01:32Yes.
01:01:33It was a life that was going on.
01:01:37I don't think we were making machines.
01:01:41We were running, running, running.
01:01:44Yes, that's true.
01:01:45So luckily, the issue had a lot of time.
01:01:48My wife had a lot of fun.
01:01:50It's good.
01:01:53I got it.
01:01:55Now, what happens is that we have to have a lot of inspiration.
01:01:58Now, we are slow in the last 20-20 or 20-20,
01:02:02the mic also has gone, the trend has changed.
01:02:05So, what happens slowly and slowly,
01:02:07we have to talk about this.
01:02:08But I am enjoying it.
01:02:10I am enjoying it too, yes.
01:02:13Because that day was happy, everything was done.
01:02:16The money is coming, but the money is coming.
01:02:18The money is not coming.
01:02:19The money is coming.
01:02:21So, today I got to see you.
01:02:23Arthi Ji, you have come here.
01:02:24I have seen you in the last few days.
01:02:27I have seen you in the last few days.
01:02:29The influence came.
01:02:31So, it was great to see you.
01:02:33Ishwa has given us everything.
01:02:35Health is good.
01:02:36Yes.
01:02:37The tragedy, unfortunately, is going to work.
01:02:40Yes.
01:02:41So, it was so miserable.
01:02:43It was cool.
01:02:44So, Ishwa has given us everything.
01:02:48So, today technology has changed.
01:02:51We will be sitting here.
01:02:53We will be able to see the children of the future.
01:02:56Otherwise, we will be able to see the children of the future.
01:02:58So, we will be able to see the children of the future.
01:03:00Ishwa has given us everything.
01:03:01Ishwa has given us everything.
01:03:02And the people of the future are the most important thing.
01:03:07It is a great thing.
01:03:08Thank you so much, Anand Ji.
01:03:11And I hope that you will be back on the 100th birthday.
01:03:16God bless you.
01:03:16You can come first.
01:03:18Thank you, sir.
01:03:22Namaste.
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