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00:00And if it is adopted by consensus, then such observers will be able to speak only on issues

00:13pertaining to their competence and in a non-politicized manner, not making accusations of state parties.

00:24This refers both to the content of their working document.

00:30This also refers to the content of their working documents.

00:34Should this approach not be observed by intergovernmental and non-governmental organizations, they shall

00:45not be allowed to take this decision and participate as observers.

00:50And as a result, the rules of procedure and this decision shall require repeated consideration.

01:02This basis is not a precedent for further activities by the working group and overall for the convention.

01:11It arises only because of the specific circumstances of this session and shall not be a precedent

01:18for the future events within the convention.

01:22We take the view that seeking an optimal solution for the issue of implementation of Article 11

01:29of the rules of procedure shall be continued by the state's parties both within this session

01:37and in the intersessional period.

01:40Once more, we reiterate as a summary that we are prepared to adopt this decision on participation

01:48by the proposed intergovernmental organizations as observers and subsequent proposals on NGOs only

02:00on that basis and in no other way.

02:04I think that we are just deciding – and I don't want to lose time – we're just deciding

02:15to – I don't want to make this an issue, okay?

02:19This is deciding their participation.

02:22If there's no request for talking, there's no request for distributive paper, when it comes,

02:29we decide.

02:30Austria.

02:31Austria.

02:32And let's move.

02:33Okay?

02:34Austria, have the floor.

02:36At the outset, I also want to express our support to you as our chair and at the beginning

02:44of our working group, and you can count on Austria's full support.

02:48I think also your last call was the right approach to come to such a – how to deal with such

02:54a situation.

02:55When it comes to that, I think that would be completely in line with our position.

02:58Just to make a few remarks on the topic at hand, I think what we also want to state is

03:05that there is no need to adopt the rules of procedures because we have already adopted them.

03:10So there is no case where we have to wait or set up any conditions before adopting them.

03:19For those people who are in the room who are new to this discussion and this kind of issue

03:25that we are dealing with, there has been a longstanding practice that observers were actually speaking

03:30among delegation, I mean more specifically the European Union.

03:33And also from a logical point of view, specialized agencies such as the WHO and many others have

03:39a seat at this table since they are bringing very valuable expertise and technical competence

03:44to our discussions.

03:45So we would not like to see their participation rights limited at any kind.

03:52Another point when it comes to the rules of procedures that we want to make that is also

03:55not in line to make such decision – not in line with the rules of procedures to make such

04:00decisions by consensus because rule 28 of our rules procedures is very clear that organizational

04:05matters can also be taken by a vote.

04:08So if we set up a consensus rule on something where there is no consensus rule, we are not

04:12in line with our rules of procedures.

04:15Knowing fully well that we have a practice of consensus, but we cannot make a rule about

04:19something where there is no rule.

04:23Also one last point and I leave it at that then and I think we can move forward with our

04:27work.

04:28In our point of view, we expect all organizations who participate to stay within their competence.

04:33I think we are seeing no risk in that direction.

04:35And since this is a technical body, we also expect them not to politicize.

04:39I mean, not that this is something as a precondition, but this is just something that is the most

04:44likely scenario in general.

04:47I thank you.

04:52May I take that this working group approves my proposal to grant these organizations

05:02of service status.

05:09The Russian Federation.

05:10Listen, if you want, I can pass a video of our last session when we discuss this.

05:16So there's no team to discuss Russian.

05:20Please be brief.

05:22Thank you, Chairperson.

05:29Do we correctly understand that we're taking this decision on the basis that my delegation

05:35just stated, since we are prepared to take this decision only on that basis?

05:41Does the group accept this decision?

05:54Again, Russian, please.

05:59I intend to finish this work.

06:06Distinguished Chairperson, we also want to move on to the further steps as soon as possible,

06:15but we have to be clear that this decision is being taken on the basis that we have read

06:20out.

06:21We would like to hear confirmation that this decision is being taken on the basis set up

06:29by the Russian Federation.

06:31I would like to read something for you to be very clear.

06:39I would like to remind all delegations, including the Russian, that the Ninth Review Conference

06:46agreed that the rules of procedure of the conference will be applied, and I repeat, will be applied

06:54to the working group to the working group Mutatis Mutantis.

06:59Okay?

07:00Furthermore, I would like, I would also like to remind delegates, all delegations, that at

07:08its organizational meeting in March 23, the working group confirmed, repeat, confirmed,

07:18as its rules of procedure, Mutatis Mutantis, the rules of procedures of the Ninth Review Conference

07:24C, paragraph 5 of document BWC slash WD slash 1 slash 2, dated 17th of March 2023.

07:41Please, I want to move this meeting.

07:44Russian Federation.

07:45If you want, I can also suspend the meeting.

07:50Russian.

07:52Thank you, Chairperson.

07:53We just want to be, we want to have clarity on this.

07:54How, in that case, is 4 and 5 of Section 11 of the Rules of Procedure Rule 44 going to

07:56be applied?

07:57Since, for example, Austria referred to established practice.

07:58Do we understand correctly that 4 and 5, paragraphs 4 and 5 as adopted?

08:00in the rules of procedure.

08:01And the rules of procedure.

08:02In the rules of procedure.

08:03in the rules of procedure, case we just want to be, we just want to be, we want to be,

08:04we want to have clarity on this.

08:05How, in that case, is 4 and 5 of Section 11 of the Rules of Procedure Rule 44 going to

08:07be applied?

08:08Since, for example, Austria referred to established practice.

08:11rule 44 going to be applied since, for example, Austria referred to established

08:19practice. Do we understand correctly that four and five, paragraphs four and five

08:26as adopted in the rules of procedure, will be strictly complied with as

08:35written, namely that the specialized establishments and regional and intergovernmental

08:45organizations and NGOs will not have the possibility to take the floor during

08:52plenaries and will not have the possibility to distribute in written form their

09:01working documents without an invitation towards the specialized

09:09establishments and regional and intergovernmental organizations by the

09:13working group. In other words, all states participants. Thank you for the

09:20clarifications on that. I repeat once more and I want to close this thing, okay? None

09:27of all those organizations have requested to address the meeting or submit their

09:34views in writing. So rule 44 will be applied as written, okay? Now I want from

09:41the floor just yes or no. May I take the working group approves my proposal to grant

09:50this organization observer status, yes or no?

09:56While on the subject of participation, I would also like to welcome the national

10:08experts from developing countries who are participating in this meeting under the

10:13BWC sponsorship program. The ISU has informed me that 22 experts from developing state

10:22parties are being supported under the sponsorship program for this session. Your attendance is an

10:30important element of our widely shared desire to widen the participation and diversity at our

10:38meetings. Therefore, I encourage you to participate actively in our deliberations. In

10:45this regard, I would also like to express my appreciation to Canada, France, Philippines,

10:53Portugal, and the United Kingdom, as well as the member states of the European Union who

10:59have contributed to the sponsorship program. Now that we have concluded the opening

11:05formalities and necessary procedure matters, we will now move on the substantive issues

11:12before us at this session. While overarching comments on the rolling text, especially from

11:21groups of countries, are welcome at the outset, I would encourage delegation to focus their interventions

11:30on the specific language of the rolling text as early as possible.

11:37Russian Federation.

11:43Thank you, Chairperson.

11:49I put up the flag before you gaveled as regards the participation by observers and the regional

12:04and other organizations. So once again, I reiterate that we want to move on to substantive issues

12:12as quickly as possible. We need to have clarity on how the participation by these non-state participants,

12:18will take place in the work of the working group. We understand that as of today, there have not been any requests

12:25by these organizations as regards working documents or to take the floor. But we would like to have clarification

12:35on what will happen should such requests be made. How will these requests be considered by whom? And will a separate

12:50decision be taken by the states parties on this matter? Since reading the rules of procedure, we see that they are very specific as regards working documents,

13:04it is not envisaged. It is envisaged, rather, that such documents may only be distributed at the invitation of the working group, on the decision, therefore, of the state parties, on the basis of consensus, since this working group is working on the basis of consensus.

13:31And...

13:33I'll interrupt you, but I really don't want to move again in this discussion. As I said before, when we come to the decision that was taken, and when, if some delegation asks for, to submit paper, or to talk, and I have repeated it, and I'd say it once again, the group, who is the group, the group decides.

13:55Everything here is decided. Everything here is decided by the group. You don't have to repeat what you said, and I don't have to repeat what I said. Let's move on.

14:02Let's move on.

14:09Agenda Item 6. Excellencies Distinguished Delegates.

14:18Having concluded the opening formalities, I would now like to move straight to our substantive topic, namely, measures on international cooperation and assistance under Article 10, which are scheduled to discuss today and tomorrow.

14:38The informal indicative timetable, which the implementation support unit circulated last week, explains how I would like to conduct our work at this session.

14:53On our two first topics, international cooperation and assistance in scientific and technological developments, we have set aside time to discuss the measures contained in rolling text in BWC-WG-6-CRP.1,

15:20as well as the mechanisms on both topics. On the latter, we have spent much time over the past five sessions, and particularly in December, discussing the mechanisms.

15:35I think there is a widely held view that we have made a lot of progress on mechanisms, and that while certain issues still require work, there is a great deal of overall convergence.

15:50I, therefore, I want to capitalize on the progress that we have made and move forward, not backwards.

16:00This means that I do not want to reopen discussions on the mechanisms in their entirety.

16:09But I would like to focus on key issues, which I listed in the informal timetable.

16:16These are issues which state parties have raised with me in bilateral meetings, and I would, therefore, like to spend time trying to narrow the difference on these particular issues.

16:32Therefore, as you can see from the informal timetable, I have set aside time to discuss the ICA mechanism this afternoon and tomorrow afternoon.

16:45In this way, I hope to provide sufficient and specific time to discuss both aspects, measures and mechanisms.

16:58As I have already stated, those remain two different autonomous processes.

17:04I would like, therefore, to request state parties wishing to make interventions specifically on the ICA mechanisms to do so this afternoon.

17:17As you...

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