00:00And we're now getting some more inputs after a IAF chief's Pakistan aircraft downed revelation.
00:06Now, Chief of Army Staff has detailed Operation Sindhur and described Operation Sindhur as a game of chess.
00:13General Dwevedi has mocked Pakistan's victory claim, saying that NME was making chess moves.
00:20So, after IAF chief's Pakistan aircraft downed revelation yesterday,
00:24in which he stated that five fighter jets were downed off Pakistan.
00:29In fact, another aircraft was also downed by India during Operation Sindhur.
00:34Now, Chief of Army Staff General Upendra Dwevedi has also detailed Operation Sindhur,
00:40describing the operation as a game of chess.
00:43And he also mocked Pakistan's victory claim and he said that the NME was making chess moves.
00:54Now, what does it mean?
00:56It means we did not know what is the next move the NME is going to take and what are we going to do.
01:03This is something we called about the gray zone.
01:05Gray zone is that we are not going for the conventional operations,
01:08but we are doing something which is just short of the conventional operations.
01:11Conventional operations means go with everything, Cross-Vitzyan approach.
01:15Take whatever you have.
01:17And if you're able to come back, it's okay, otherwise stay there.
01:20But that is the thing which we talk about, the conventional approach.
01:23Here, the gray zone is any activity which is taking place in all domains.
01:28That is something which we are talking about.
01:29And Ops Hindu taught us that.
01:32That this is the gray zone.
01:33So, we were making the chess moves.
01:34He was also making the chess moves.
01:36Somewhere, we were giving him checkmate.
01:38And somewhere, we were kind of going in for the kill.
01:41At the risk of even losing our own.
01:42But that's the way life is all about.
01:44So, that was Chief of Army Staff, General Upendra Dvivedi,
01:52speaking on Operation Sindhu, describing it as a game of chess.
01:57And in fact, he also mocked Pakistan's victory claim,
02:00saying that the enemy was making chess moves.
02:03My colleague Shivani is now joining us with more context on this.
02:07Shivani, after IAF Chief, now General Dvivedi,
02:10who is the Chief of Army Staff,
02:11has also spoken on Operation Sindhu, calling it a game of chess.
02:15Anjali, see, the Army Chief, General Upendra Dvivedi,
02:20has spoken into details about how it was being prepared
02:23after 22nd when the Pahelgaam attack happened.
02:25And he said that on 23rd, there was an important meeting
02:29where the Defence Minister Rajnath Singh and all the other chiefs,
02:32they were deciding on to what's to be done.
02:35And they were given a free hand.
02:36That's very important out here,
02:38the statement of the Chief of Army Staff.
02:42He's saying that the free hand was given.
02:44And they were told that you'll decide what is to be done.
02:47And there were a lot of allegations and a lot of questions
02:50that were being asked,
02:51especially from the opposition party,
02:53about the forces not being given the free hand.
02:56Anjali, you remember, in the parliament also,
02:58these questions were there.
02:59So now there's so much clarity
03:01after the Indian Air Force Chief's address yesterday.
03:04Now the Army Chief is saying that they had all the freedom to operate.
03:11And they were also told by the Defence Minister
03:13that enough is enough.
03:15So they have to decide for some action.
03:18And what he was speaking about the chest was the grey zone
03:21because they did not know what the enemy is going to do.
03:24But they had to take that risk.
03:26And in this whole operation,
03:27Indian weapon systems along with the S-400
03:30and the other air defence systems,
03:33they proved their mettle, Anjali.
03:35And we know the result,
03:36how Pakistan came onto its knees in just four days.
03:39Absolutely, Shivani.
03:40Thank you so much for getting us that context.
03:43Let's also listen in to what General Upendra Divedi said
03:46while mocking Pakistan.
03:47And since of Sindhuur,
03:51you may be actually saturated
03:52by seeing the TV and the parliamentary debates.
03:55So I will not spend much time on that.
03:57I will say how the technology came into play.
03:59But certain things are important.
04:0022nd April, you are aware what happened in Pahalgam
04:03and it actually shocked the nation.
04:0523rd is the time when we,
04:07next day itself, we all sat down.
04:09And this is the first time which RM has also said,
04:11I think enough is enough.
04:13And all the three chiefs were very clear,
04:14something has to be done.
04:15And the free hand was given, of course,
04:18that you decide what is to be done.
04:19And that is the kind of a confidence
04:21with the political directions
04:23and political clarity for the first time we saw.
04:26And that's what made a difference
04:27because we want to do a lot.
04:30But that kind of a hand-holding
04:31and kind of a free,
04:34no terms of restrictions, if I can say that.
04:37And that is what kind of raises up your morale.
04:39And that is how it helped our army commanders
04:41or commander-in-chiefs on ground
04:43to kind of act as per their wisdom.
04:45Of course, then 25th,
04:47we visited the Northern Command,
04:48as you are aware that
04:49that is the place where we thought,
04:52planned, conceptualized, and executed
04:54the seven targets out of the nine
04:56which were destroyed
04:58and where a lot of terrorists were killed.
05:0329th April, of course,
05:04was the time when we met the Prime Minister
05:05for the first time.
05:06And thereafter, next day, of course,
05:09why I'm telling you this?
05:09Because it's important that
05:11how a small name of Sindhu
05:13connects the whole nation.
05:15And I was telling the director also
05:18that when he briefed me on this,
05:20he said,
05:20okay, we'll have this name of Sindhu.
05:22And I thought it is of Sindhu.
05:24Sindhu is basically Indus River.
05:25So I said,
05:26excellent, sir,
05:27Indus Water Treaty
05:27has just been frozen by you.
05:29He said,
05:30no, it is of Sindhu.
05:31And just see,
05:33this one name
05:33has connected the whole nation together.
05:36And today,
05:36people are saying Sindhu to Sindhu,
05:38everything we have taken care of.
05:40But that is something
05:41which galvanized the whole nation as such.
05:43And the soldiers, per se,
05:44because when I went on ground
05:46and I told them
05:46that, look,
05:48any sister,
05:49mother,
05:49daughter,
05:50whenever she applies
05:51the vermilion or the Sindhu,
05:52she will always remember the soldier.
05:54And I think
05:55that was the connect.
05:56And I think
06:03that was the connect
06:04which
06:04brought the whole nation together
06:07for one cause.
06:08And that is the reason
06:09I think the whole nation
06:10was saying,
06:10why have you stopped?
06:11I think
06:12that's the question
06:13which was being asked.
06:14But of course,
06:14that has been
06:15amply answered by.
06:17So the strategic clarity
06:18was in time.
06:19That is diplomatic,
06:19information,
06:20military and economic.
06:21And that's why you see
06:22that the IWT was frozen.
06:24Then high commission
06:25strength was reduced.
06:26The defense personnel
06:27were moved out.
06:27Person or non-grata
06:28they were declared.
06:30And visas were revoked.
06:34And my colleague
06:35Shivani continues
06:36to stay with us.
06:37Shivani,
06:37General Upendra Divedi
06:39also recalled
06:39how the operation
06:40was named
06:41Operation Sindhu
06:42and how he connected
06:43Sindhu to Sindhu.
06:46See, Anjali,
06:47this whole operation
06:48has been
06:49a perfect example
06:50of integration
06:51between the government,
06:54between the forces
06:55and the forces
06:56themselves.
06:57You remember,
06:58this is the operation
06:59where the Army,
06:59Navy, Air Force
07:00and all the other
07:01intelligence agencies,
07:03the ISRO
07:04in terms of
07:05the satellite inputs,
07:06they all coordinated together.
07:07And the Operation Sindhu,
07:09the name,
07:10what the chief is saying,
07:11has connected
07:11the whole nation
07:12because, you know,
07:13it all started
07:14after Pahlgaam attack
07:15and the nation
07:16was on a high emotion
07:19and that's why
07:20the Operation Sindhu
07:21name that
07:22avenged the Pahlgaam
07:24deaths was named.
07:26And he says
07:27that this was the
07:28reason why
07:29Operation Sindhu
07:30was chosen as a name
07:31because this was not
07:32an operation of the forces.
07:33This was the operation
07:34of how India
07:35retaliated and
07:36responded to terror.
07:37So this is how
07:38the details are now
07:39being divulged
07:41by the chief,
07:41Anjali.
07:42And he says
07:43that operational freedom
07:44was given,
07:45there was no pressure
07:45and it was decided
07:47by the defense minister
07:49that you go all out.
07:50They met the prime minister
07:51on 29th
07:52and once again
07:53it was reiterated
07:54that we want
07:56a very strong action
07:57against the terrorists
07:58and that's how
07:59these terror targets
08:00inside Pakistan
08:01were destroyed
08:02where more than
08:02100 terrorists
08:03were killed.
08:04Right, Shivani
08:05thank you so much
08:06for those details
08:07and for that context.
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