00:00most of the things that I didn't know were things that didn't have to do with the show,
00:04like the things before the show. Okay, I'll give you two examples. One thing that really
00:09surprised me, and it's a part of the book that I loved writing, is that after pitching this show
00:15in Hollywood for years, he finally was offered, NBC said, come to New York and you can do this
00:20show. And he almost said no. He came really close to saying no because he didn't want to
00:25leave Los Angeles. He was really comfortable in California by then. He loved the beach and he
00:30loved the desert. And he thought that New York was pretentious. It was also in 1975, really unsafe.
00:39It was a mess. It was declaring bankruptcy, murders and burglaries were up. That was the era of
00:48taxi driver and escape from New York. So he was thinking like, gee, I kind of like California.
00:53California. And another thing about that whole discussion that I think is interesting is
00:58he started, and I think coming from Canada, right, where it's cold and boring,
01:03he liked the fact that, you know, he always says that California invented the idea of fun as a value
01:10not to be ashamed of. You know, that in California, you could read Chekhov and go see an Elvis movie.
01:17And that didn't mean that you weren't a serious person. And he said, you know, people in New York
01:22basically just wanted to go into the basement and read the Tibetan Book of the Dead, you know?
01:27So he thought it was a sort of pretentious, superior culture, and he didn't really want
01:33anything to do with it. So he almost said no. And if he had said no, the show wouldn't have happened.
01:39And then I guess another thing that I didn't know at all. I mean, I did know that in the 90s,
01:47he tussled with the network and with Don Ohlmeyer, and they made him fire Farley and Sandler. But I
01:56didn't know that the network had gone so far as to interview people to maybe replace him. You know,
02:02I didn't know that they had reached out to Judd Apatow, who was just in his 20s, and had these
02:08kind of, you know, very vague conversations with him about, you know, maybe coming in in a producer
02:16role, and who knows what would happen next. And because they were really thinking of firing Lauren.
02:23And, you know, Judd loved the show. It was always his dream to work at the show. And
02:29Sandler was his roommate. So, you know, I knew the show well. And so he was intrigued,
02:36but he was so put off by the sneaky back channel behavior of these guys, that I think he felt that
02:43karmically, it would just be so wrong, and so disrespectful of Lauren and what Lauren had created
02:49that he told them, forget it. But I don't think anyone, I mean, I don't think it's widely known
02:55that he was really on the ropes there.
02:59And so here we go, so you can see it.
03:04Yeah, that's not one guy who went on a all-time.
03:09That's a wonderful time.
03:09So he jumps back, but now he goes,
03:12you know, you might have taken a while saying goodbye?
03:14Ah.
03:16I think that's fine.
03:18I am taking so many.
03:23That's okay.
03:26I have got to be here.
03:26See?
03:27Well…
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