Rob and Bri's "Neat Records" or Bust
In the early 1980s, two young lads from Newcastle upon Tyne—one learning guitar, the other drums—set out on a mission to sign with the prominent local music label, Neat Records. This was their first step toward rock superstardom, a chance to escape the drudgery of a bleak future in northern England.
#neatrecords #venom #heavymetal #atomkraft #rock #thrashmetal #musicindustry #tysondog #raven #avenger #tank #warfare #tygersofpantang #recordlabel #abaddon #ericcook #nwobhm #audition
In the early 1980s, two young lads from Newcastle upon Tyne—one learning guitar, the other drums—set out on a mission to sign with the prominent local music label, Neat Records. This was their first step toward rock superstardom, a chance to escape the drudgery of a bleak future in northern England.
#neatrecords #venom #heavymetal #atomkraft #rock #thrashmetal #musicindustry #tysondog #raven #avenger #tank #warfare #tygersofpantang #recordlabel #abaddon #ericcook #nwobhm #audition
Category
🎵
MusicTranscript
00:00It all starts in 1983 with two young boys, Rob and Brie. Rob Redhead and Brian Worf.
00:14Two young lads in a comprehensive school in Newcastle-pond-town, England, in the north of England.
00:21Two young lads with shoulder-length hair, growing hair, getting picked on by bullies at the school.
00:39But not really as bad as it seemed at the time. A lot of it was kind of in their heads, in our heads really.
00:47Especially sort of me lately. You know, three fights, won one, lost one, drew one, you know.
00:56And Brian was a little, like, small. Brian was, like, small.
01:01He was, like, not even up to my shoulders. I sort of sprouted up when we were sort of 12, 13.
01:07Brian was very small, but, like, when we got to, when Brian was, like, sort of, got to sort of 17,
01:15he just fucking shot up, you know. Like, 16, 17, he just, like, he was, he ended up slightly bigger than me, Brian.
01:22Which was remarkable, really, because he was a little, little lad.
01:26But what we did was sort of bond it together.
01:30Brian was sort of scum of the earth, council estate, you know, from a large family that had nothing.
01:39And I was a sort of, in a way, sort of, posh kid from the suburbs.
01:46And, you know, got all the presents at Christmas, including the electric guitar.
01:52So, we were a mismatch, but we didn't care because we both had a love of music and we bonded over the music.
02:00And because of that, the feeling of getting bullied at school and aggro, the music was what, was our escape.
02:11But it was always, it was what, we're our friends anyway, but it gave us that sort of, we're our best friends, but we had the music as well.
02:22And it was actually, it was a great way of getting really good on the instrument.
02:28Like, two things, really.
02:29If you're going to a school that you fucking hate, and then you just start playing truant there all the time, because it's shit.
02:38Everything about it is shit.
02:41Then, you know, you're going to get good on your instrument quickly.
02:46It's the 1980s.
02:47It's 1983, 1984.
02:49It's, you know, it seemed that there was no internet.
02:55There was, you know, it seemed like the music industry was going to go on for decades and decades, hundreds of years, you know.
03:02So, you know, there'd be music shops, there'd be record shops, there'd be vinyl records, there'd be, you know, rock stars forever, you know, in 1983, 82, 83, 84.
03:16So, what me and Brian decided was, look, we just one day, we just said, fuck this.
03:21So, we started going out to Brian's house, and Brian's mother would, she was out of work a lot, and his older brothers were out the house, they were away.
03:33And, you know, you basically had the place, this council house, Brian's house, the place to ourselves.
03:43There was an outhouse, you know, just a room downstairs.
03:48There was, you know, eventually Brian got bought a drum kit.
03:53I got the guitar first, I got the electric guitar first, at Christmas, at a Christmas.
03:59Well, actually, it came a year late, you know, because I thought I was going to get the Christmas before, but unfortunately, legend has it, my father, who was a taxi driver at the time, blew all his money, blew all the money on beer, and didn't have enough for a guitar.
04:17That was going to get that Christmas, so that was spent on, what I got that Christmas was a John Lennon album and a pair of headphones, and I was fucking gutted.
04:26I mean, I loved the album, like, you know, but, oh, fuck, I was wanting an electric guitar.
04:32I only found that out years later, whether it's true or not, it probably is true, right, because, you know, 1980s, you know, every fuck I was drinking, you look at, I've waited as a pet, you know, it was all about booze and, like, you know, that's what the culture was, you know, and, you know, he probably regretted, well, he would have regretted that, you know, but anyway, things turned out all right in the end, anyway.
04:56So I got the guitar, so I got the electric guitar, sort of, so I would have been, like, sort of 12 and a half, 13 or something, and we'd go to Brian's house, and Brian, they were poor.
05:13So, he would, his mother was a single mother, he had four brothers and a sister, hold on a minute, one, two, three, four, four brothers and a sister, and, you know, there was, like I say, they were, like, from the, you know, pillow, you know, rough pillow,
05:38as I was, like, from up the road at Bill Key, originally. So, you know, Brian would, he had a set of drumsticks, at least he had the drumsticks, so he would hit on, he would play,
05:52he would play the settee, and I would strum on a guitar, and this went on for a few months.
05:58One day, we sort of decided, me and Brian, let's just steal the drum kit from the school classrooms, you know, because, you know, we need it more than anybody else.
06:15So, that's what we did one day, literally just went into school, you know, and walked right the way through the school yard, you know, all the millions of classes,
06:29you know, looking down the school yard, and he has me, I'm carrying a bass drum, Brian's carrying a snare and cymbals and that.
06:35We must have, we must have carried it, carried it all the way down to Brian's, that's a hell of a trek, like.
06:41And, you know, we must have done a couple of trips.
06:48Obviously, we got caught, because, you know, everybody in the whole school saw these two lads walking out the school with their,
06:57with these drum, these drum kits, you know.
07:00We got pulled over by the teachers, who said, pulled in one at a time, into a classroom,
07:08to see if we stole the drums.
07:09And I says to Brian, I says, Brian, whatever you do, they've didn't deny it to us.
07:16Just deny, deny, deny, right?
07:19Just deny it.
07:21We know nothing about drum kits.
07:23We know, we know nothing.
07:25And we, you know, Brian's gone, right, and I will do that right.
07:28So, I got pulled in first, and, er, Brian got pulled into another classroom, to speak to teachers, for interrogation.
07:40Of course, they said, they said to me, Robert, we know you and Brian took the drum kit.
07:47Did you take that drum kit?
07:50And, of course, I just went, yeah, we did, yeah.
07:54Yeah, actually, we did, yeah.
07:56You know, that's what, you know, I'm not going to, I was just like, well, yeah, it's fake up, you know.
08:02And, er, partly Brian was, afterwards, I says, you know, Brian Gans afterwards, he says,
08:09Redhead, you twat.
08:11I says, what?
08:13He says, I was on ages denying it.
08:16He was there for fucking ages denying it.
08:20So, anyway, we got done for that.
08:22I think the sort of lefty teachers that were coming into comprehensive schools at the time
08:26thought it was quite cool that we're doing that, like,
08:29they are fucking useless cunts.
08:31And, er, you know, the sort of, you know, letting, I mean, there's, there'd be, like,
08:37sort of troublemaker, er, you know, really damaged kids, like, just wandering in after months.
08:45Of course, they'd come into the school, they'd bully fucking kids who were wanting to work.
08:49And then they'd fuck off.
08:50No, just allowed to come and go, you know.
08:52The place was a fucking nightmare, like, terrible, terrible.
08:56It was the new experiment from, they went from the grammar schools in the 50s and 60s to this new thing
09:02in the 70s, which was a comprehensive school, which would pull all the kids into just one big school.
09:07It was just a disaster.
09:09And probably, well, it will still be a disaster because that's basically, for decades, you know,
09:16that's the standard of education and sort of behaviour of kids as being terrible in Great Britain.
09:24And, like, you know, it's, it's the home of youth, you know, your culture.
09:28So, back to the drums, that's it then.
09:31So, we got caught with that.
09:32So, obviously, Brian's mother thought, he really wants a drum kit, doesn't he?
09:37So, I think she had a win on the bingo, Brian's mother.
09:43And he got, he got a lovely white pearl drum kit, which was his praying joy.
09:49It was a lovely kit, like, Premier.
09:50No, it wasn't Pearl, it was Pearl White, but it was Premier.
09:55And that was it.
09:58We're off at the races.
10:00I had my guitar.
10:01Brian had his drums.
10:02So, we're just sort of touring from school and just rehearsed at Brian's house, like,
10:10every fucking day, you know, learning Hendrix, learning ACDC, all the sort of rock stuff
10:16that we're sort of getting into, Rush, learning Rush.
10:19And that's actually, that was actually good to, that we're into Rush, me and Brian.
10:24Brian got me into Rush, because that sets the ball high.
10:28So, you know, you've got to get, you know, if you want to be able to play some Rush songs,
10:32you've got to get good.
10:33So, and we, so we made it both, the wag man, we used to call him the wag man, the truant officer,
10:42you know, in between sort of learning with instruments, banging away, drums and guitar.
10:48We'd sit and have a cup of coffee at Brian's, you know, in the next room, in the living room.
10:52And then a head would pop up at the window with a, with a, with a truant officer,
10:58with a cigarette hand out of his mouth, saying, I can see, get back to school.
11:03Now, sometimes we'd see him, we'd just die behind the sofa, you know, the settee,
11:08or the original drunkard, settee drunkard.
11:11And, you know, he'd be saying, is he still there? Is he still there?
11:14Aye, I think he's gone now.
11:17And that, that was his job, literally, just to come down,
11:19peek his head up above people's windows, you know, and shout and get back to school.
11:24So, we just ignored, ignored him, like, chain smoking, a whole bloat, you know.
11:31And that eventually stopped.
11:32So, I think what the, your sort of teachers, these liberal lefty teachers,
11:37probably thought, I mean, we had another, sort of, nearly another year to go,
11:42I think, in school, which, I think they just left with, can you, you know,
11:47they just left with played through it.
11:50Obviously, they thought, well, you know, they're probably going to do,
11:54they're probably going to learn better doing music than being in this shithouse,
12:00because they would have knew it was a shithouse as well.
12:03So, that was it.
12:03And, the exams, need, need further education, all like that, just,
12:09that was our education, me and Brian's.
12:12It was in Brian's house, and we got really good, really quick.
12:20Now, the next part of the story is,
12:24me and Brian now, it's sort of 1984,
12:31it's a beginning of 1984, I would imagine.
12:34And, we're getting pretty good on our instruments.
12:39We formed a band, me and Brian,
12:43with a lad called Jimmy,
12:47who was a few years older than us, you know,
12:51which was disappointing, you know,
12:54because, you know, when you're sort of,
12:56when you're sort of 14, 15, you want every, you know,
13:00three years is very, very old.
13:03Three or four years ahead is, like, pensioner, you know.
13:05So, Jimmy was in the band, he had a bass guitar,
13:09he was a good bass player, he's a good lad,
13:11so, we used to rehearse, the three of us,
13:15doing rush covers in this old library in Bill Quay,
13:22which is no longer there,
13:24which they're not down.
13:25It was, like, the old library was a building that was at the,
13:29it would have been on the end of a row of terraced houses,
13:32down at the bottom of Bill Quay.
13:33And all these terrace houses had all been demolished in the 1960s.
13:40And it was just, there's two buildings left.
13:43One, one of them was the, the library,
13:46and the other one was a pub,
13:49and we're called the Cricketers, which was further down.
13:53And the Cricketers are still there,
13:54but the library got knocked down,
13:57probably, I think, in the 90s.
13:59And we used to rehearse there.
14:01And one, one day, I don't know how it happened, like,
14:05but one, we used to listen to the Hot and Heavy Express,
14:09Alan Robson.
14:11That was on every sort of Friday, Saturday night,
14:14and, you know, obviously we were too young to be going to the pubs,
14:17although we did a little bit, like, me and Brian.
14:20But we did sneak into a couple of pubs a few times,
14:23like a 13.
14:24We started there, not actually.
14:26And, um, so,
14:29Hot and Heavy Express,
14:31you know, Friday, Saturday night,
14:32play all the part,
14:34the disc jockey, Alan Robson,
14:35play all the songs,
14:36all the heavy metal songs,
14:37all the heavy rock songs.
14:40And there was a,
14:41one of the sort of theme tune of the show,
14:45the Hot and Heavy Express,
14:47was a song from a band called Satan,
14:50who were a,
14:51who were a local band.
14:53And it was actually a good song,
14:56I can't remember,
14:56I can't remember now,
14:57but it was a good song,
14:58like,
14:58and we knew of Blitzkrieg,
15:04the name Blitzkrieg and Satan.
15:07And we were,
15:07we were coming to,
15:09we were getting to know the names of the local bands,
15:12also,
15:12because he would play the local bands,
15:14so you get Raven on,
15:15Tyson Dog,
15:17Avenger,
15:18you know.
15:20And,
15:20so,
15:22anyway,
15:23we've got,
15:23there's three of us playing in this own library,
15:26and,
15:26I don't know how it happened,
15:27but we've got a,
15:29we're looking for a singer.
15:31And,
15:33Alan Rob,
15:34um,
15:35ah,
15:35what is it?
15:36Is it Brian Robson?
15:38The singer from Blitzkrieg,
15:40what,
15:41came to audition for us.
15:43And,
15:45er,
15:46okay,
15:47is that his name?
15:48I can't remember his name.
15:51Yeah,
15:51but,
15:52we thought,
15:52oh,
15:52well,
15:53that's okay,
15:53because he's,
15:54he's insane.
15:55I don't know what he sounds like,
15:56because we heard him on the radio.
15:58So,
15:58he'll come along.
16:00So,
16:01he came along for an audition,
16:02and,
16:03er,
16:03he sang,
16:04he must have been looking for a band,
16:06he must have just left Satan or Blitzkrieg or something.
16:09And he was in,
16:10you know,
16:10I mean,
16:11I don't know what he thought,
16:12because we're just,
16:12two kids in this,
16:14sort of,
16:14slightly older kid.
16:16Er,
16:16the three were.
16:17But,
16:18anyway,
16:18we've done this session,
16:19he says,
16:20well,
16:20that's it.
16:20He says,
16:21what do you think?
16:22I says,
16:22I,
16:22I says,
16:23I sound good,
16:24aye?
16:24He says,
16:24so,
16:26am I joining your band?
16:29And I looked at Brian,
16:31and I says,
16:32well,
16:32I says,
16:33I says,
16:34what we'll do is,
16:34I'll give you a ring back,
16:37right?
16:38And,
16:39er,
16:40we'll just,
16:40we've got somebody else to see us,
16:42well,
16:42you know,
16:43it's been great.
16:44So he went,
16:45oh,
16:45all right.
16:46So off,
16:48off he went,
16:50get in touch,
16:52and Jimmy,
16:52the bass player,
16:53who was slightly older than,
16:54older than us,
16:55he's saying,
16:57what you doing man,
16:57you should have just,
16:58you should have said yes man,
17:00it's Brian Robson,
17:00it's,
17:01it's Blitzkrieg singer man,
17:02it's,
17:02you should have said yes.
17:05And I says,
17:06yeah,
17:06but,
17:07did you not hear how old he said he was?
17:09he's 30 years old.
17:1330.
17:16And Jimmy's going,
17:18well,
17:19well,
17:19it doesn't matter,
17:20he's a great son,
17:21it's,
17:22it's Brian,
17:22no,
17:23it's Brian Ross,
17:23that was it,
17:24it's Brian Ross from Blitzkrieg.
17:26I says,
17:27nah,
17:27I says,
17:28it's too old,
17:28you know,
17:29and Brian's nodding away with me,
17:30he says,
17:31Brian's like,
17:31and it is old,
17:32like,
17:32so,
17:34that was,
17:36that was me and Brian,
17:40you know,
17:42we were,
17:44we knew neat records,
17:46we knew the bands,
17:48we knew what was out there,
17:51you know,
17:51and,
17:52I'm sorry,
17:55you know,
17:55we're 30 years old,
17:56it was just too old for us,
17:57like,
17:59but,
18:00he was a good singer,
18:02and he went off and done his Blitzkrieg thing again,
18:05I think,
18:05so,
18:06by that time,
18:11me and Brian,
18:13have started focusing on doing some,
18:16demo work,
18:18right,
18:18intricate stuff,
18:21also,
18:22so,
18:22started sending demo tapes,
18:26sent a demo tape into neat records,
18:28right,
18:29now,
18:30something else,
18:31it's,
18:31it's,
18:32it's,
18:32a lot of it's about,
18:34it's all about luck,
18:35it's all about,
18:36who you're not,
18:37and it's,
18:38the reason why I bring up the Brian Ross thing,
18:40really is,
18:41is,
18:42and what I'm going to say now,
18:43is really,
18:44because it's about,
18:46how,
18:46when I look back,
18:47how small,
18:49Newcastle was,
18:50in a way,
18:51like,
18:51you know,
18:51like,
18:53for these reasons,
18:54right,
18:56Venom's Abaddon,
18:57Tony Bray,
18:58right,
18:58he's walking past my house,
19:02right,
19:03because I'd,
19:04we'd,
19:04we'd moved up to,
19:05so,
19:05up to,
19:06up to Peelope,
19:08my family,
19:09my parents and my brother,
19:10and then we were,
19:13then we moved up to,
19:15the countryside,
19:16but we were there for like a year,
19:18but in that time,
19:19Abaddon's walking past,
19:21my house,
19:23right,
19:24er,
19:25we knew that,
19:28Venom,
19:30Abaddon's,
19:31roadie,
19:32was a guy called Gordon,
19:34a guy called Gordon,
19:35Gordon was,
19:36Gordon,
19:36we knew Gordon,
19:38Gordon was a year above us,
19:40and he was a friend,
19:42of,
19:43one of Brian's brothers,
19:45so,
19:48Abaddon,
19:49Tony would walk,
19:51to see,
19:52his,
19:52his,
19:53his,
19:53his girlfriend,
19:54his wife,
19:55with a kid,
19:56because he had a kid,
19:57and this was in the,
19:58this was a few doors down,
20:00from where Brian lived,
20:01so,
20:01Abaddon,
20:02is hearing us rehearsing,
20:04he's hearing me playing the guitars,
20:06he's walking past,
20:07because I'm looking at the window,
20:08waiting for him coming past,
20:09and I'll fucking turn it up to 11,
20:11when he walks past,
20:12because it's,
20:13this massive,
20:14fucking,
20:16well,
20:17we all know what he looked like,
20:19and that's,
20:19he's walking down the street,
20:21you know,
20:22and I'm looking at him,
20:23thinking,
20:23fucking hell,
20:24he's got some bottle,
20:24hasn't he,
20:25the fucking skinheads,
20:26are not going to run to you,
20:27peel our boat boys,
20:28I'll have him,
20:29like,
20:30you've got to fucking give him the respect,
20:31like,
20:31you know,
20:31so,
20:33it was quite funny,
20:35like,
20:36you know,
20:36you know,
20:37when you're young,
20:37you'd say,
20:37everything's sort of,
20:39blown out of proportion,
20:40a little bit,
20:41you know,
20:41with the,
20:41the threat level of,
20:43skinheads,
20:46or was it,
20:46I don't know,
20:48possibly,
20:49probably not actually,
20:50so,
20:53Abaddon's walking past me house,
20:55you know,
20:56Gordon,
20:56the roadie,
20:57now's me,
20:58and Brian,
21:00we've had Brian Ross come and audition for,
21:03there was an advert in the paper,
21:07Tyson Dog,
21:08we're wanting a guitar player,
21:10right,
21:11so I went and done this,
21:13it's sort of 15 years old,
21:15I went and,
21:16went across the Wall's End,
21:18the Coaching Horses,
21:19I think it was called,
21:20Practically Opposite Neat Records,
21:23and,
21:24and I knew that was Neat Records,
21:25I don't know how I knew,
21:26I was like,
21:28but anyway,
21:29I had that with them,
21:33learnt their song,
21:33Eat the Rich,
21:35thought,
21:35that's it,
21:36this is,
21:36yeah,
21:36I'm going to be in this band,
21:38and this is the first,
21:39this is the first step in the ladder,
21:40that's who I stole them,
21:42so done that,
21:43and,
21:45didn't get the job,
21:47and I was,
21:47that was my first,
21:49big turn down,
21:50and I was gutted by that,
21:51like,
21:53and,
21:54but in a very short time later,
21:57something's happened,
21:59where it is,
21:59something's happened at the,
22:00Neat Records,
22:01Impulse,
22:03Neat Records,
22:03right,
22:03with,
22:05with the Venom,
22:06and,
22:08the manager,
22:08Eric,
22:10and,
22:11Jed,
22:12and whatever's going on,
22:13that this,
22:13the words getting out,
22:14because I've,
22:16they've listened to the demo tape,
22:18Jed liked the demo tape,
22:19apparently,
22:20that I'd sent in,
22:20and,
22:22you know,
22:25maybe there's been,
22:26a few things,
22:27that,
22:27oh that's sad,
22:27oh I nah him,
22:28oh I nah Rob,
22:29I,
22:30you know,
22:30oh that's,
22:31is that that,
22:31is that that lad,
22:33who every time I walk past his house,
22:34he's fucking guitars on 11,
22:37so there's all this sort of,
22:38all this sort of stuff happening,
22:42and like I say,
22:42it's just a funny,
22:43it's funny how back then,
22:45the 80s,
22:45like,
22:45it was just a small,
22:47it's just a small,
22:49small,
22:50I mean it wasn't a small,
22:52it was a,
22:52you know,
22:53it's a small city,
22:55even in the 80s,
22:55you know,
22:56but,
22:56you know,
22:58it's just a funny thing,
22:59everybody sort of,
23:00seemed to know everybody,
23:02and,
23:04so,
23:05I got the,
23:06I don't know how I got,
23:08oh the phone,
23:09I must have put the phone number,
23:11put my phone number in there,
23:13on the demo tape,
23:14so Jed gives us a ring,
23:16and,
23:17so I've heard the demo tape,
23:19like,
23:19like,
23:20like what you're doing man,
23:22do you want to come along,
23:23for an audition,
23:24so I went along,
23:27for an Atomcraft audition,
23:29didn't know,
23:29didn't know,
23:30it was going to be called Atomcraft,
23:31I was just going to,
23:32audition with these two lads,
23:35so,
23:35well I didn't even know,
23:36there were two lads,
23:36I just turned up,
23:38at this sort of,
23:39bombed out,
23:39rehearsal studio,
23:40desert sounds,
23:41in the felon,
23:42which was actually,
23:43a great little studio,
23:46erm,
23:48the lad was a,
23:49really good producer in there,
23:51it was an air track,
23:52tape,
23:52real,
23:53real jobby,
23:54old school,
23:55proper,
23:55you know,
23:56when you walked along the carpet,
23:58your,
23:58your,
23:58your,
23:58your soles of your shoes,
24:00stuck to the carpet,
24:01because of all the beer,
24:02that had been spilled,
24:03holes in the wall,
24:04graffiti on the wall,
24:05dead,
24:05dead punky 1970s,
24:07so,
24:09I go in there,
24:10it's Tony Dolan,
24:11and there's Jed on his,
24:12his kit,
24:13er,
24:14you know,
24:15and I'm just thinking,
24:17first thing I felt,
24:19is like,
24:19fucking,
24:19now they're a bit out on it,
24:21so,
24:23but they were,
24:24basically,
24:25I'm 16 now,
24:27and they're like,
24:2820 or something,
24:30two of them,
24:30and,
24:32rehearse with them,
24:36straight away,
24:37er,
24:37it was good,
24:39spot on,
24:40I felt,
24:41I felt like,
24:42Jed was,
24:43more open to us,
24:44I think Jed had made his mind up,
24:46like,
24:46he,
24:47as long as I sort of,
24:48fitted in,
24:49on this rehearsal,
24:50and of course,
24:52I was,
24:52what,
24:53we started writing,
24:54straight away on the rehearsal,
24:55as well,
24:55like,
24:55er,
24:57and,
24:58er,
24:58sort of,
24:59Jed was like,
25:00well,
25:00we've got to,
25:00he can write as well,
25:01like,
25:01we need that,
25:02like,
25:02so,
25:03er,
25:05I don't think,
25:06Tony Dolan was that impressed,
25:08I think he's probably thinking,
25:09I was,
25:09maybe he's a little bit,
25:11a little bit green,
25:11a little bit young,
25:13like,
25:14probably what Tyson Dogg had thought,
25:15you know,
25:16but anyway,
25:18er,
25:21we actually wrote,
25:24the,
25:24the carousel,
25:26so,
25:27er,
25:28and,
25:32we just,
25:33that was it,
25:34we just,
25:34done that rehearsal,
25:35at the end,
25:36Jed says,
25:37must have done that for about two or three hours,
25:39at the end,
25:39she says,
25:40loved it,
25:41great,
25:42Jed's going to create,
25:44so do you want to join the band then,
25:45do you want to join me,
25:47and I says,
25:49I says,
25:49you know,
25:49I says,
25:51give us 24 hours to think about it,
25:53he,
25:53he,
25:54he,
25:54he,
25:54I'll give you a ring,
25:57right,
25:57and Jed's,
25:58Jed's like,
25:59big take her back,
26:00you know,
26:01er,
26:02right,
26:02okay,
26:03then,
26:03er,
26:03do that,
26:04er,
26:05well,
26:05I'll give you a ring tomorrow,
26:06he said,
26:07you know,
26:07so he,
26:08so he gives us a ring,
26:09so I,
26:10I left the rehearsal,
26:11me dad picked us up,
26:15I jumped in the car,
26:16and he's taking us back home,
26:18he says,
26:18right,
26:18and how'd it go?
26:19I says,
26:19oh,
26:20it went really well,
26:21aye,
26:21it went brilliant,
26:22he says,
26:22so you're joining them,
26:24are you?
26:25I says,
26:26oh,
26:26not a chance,
26:27I says,
26:29I says,
26:30they're a bit old,
26:32and I says,
26:33apart from that,
26:34I says,
26:34the drummer,
26:35he started,
26:36he's saying stuff,
26:37he's saying like,
26:38they're going to be gone on tour,
26:40right,
26:41he says,
26:41we're going to be doing an album,
26:42straight away,
26:43we're going to be gone on tour,
26:45out of you,
26:45with Venom,
26:47I says,
26:47I says,
26:48dad man,
26:48I says,
26:49they're a couple of dreamers,
26:51they're a couple of dreamers,
26:52man,
26:53and then we fell,
26:54I said,
26:54the immortal line,
26:56right,
26:57well,
26:58what you're going to,
26:59well,
27:00if you didn't join them,
27:01what you're going to do?
27:03Sit in the bedroom,
27:04for the rest of your life,
27:06and of course,
27:07that was the thing,
27:08that was the one,
27:10that made us go,
27:11right,
27:12I'll show you,
27:13so,
27:15Jay phones up the next day,
27:16and I go,
27:17he says,
27:17right,
27:18what's happening,
27:18are you joining?
27:18I says,
27:19oh,
27:19I am,
27:19definitely I,
27:20I mean I,
27:22and Jay goes,
27:23good,
27:23get down to my house,
27:25tomorrow,
27:26and,
27:27I've got some videos,
27:29to show you,
27:30Venom and that,
27:31and we talk about,
27:32where we're going,
27:33and what the tour is going to be,
27:34and where,
27:35what the album,
27:35we need to start,
27:36we need to start writing some songs,
27:37and I'm saying,
27:38great,
27:39I,
27:39great,
27:40I,
27:40and that was the beginning,
27:42of that,
27:44now,
27:45Brian,
27:47in,
27:47when all this started happening,
27:49Brian,
27:50Brian was overlooked,
27:54because obviously,
27:55Jed was a drummer,
27:57and it was,
28:00I got sort of swept up,
28:01in the Attencraft thing,
28:04right,
28:04but during that first year,
28:06in 1985,
28:08I'm sort of going off on tour,
28:10and poor Brian's,
28:11sitting,
28:13like,
28:13he's not going on tour,
28:15you know,
28:16he's not doing anything,
28:18but,
28:18I kept on saying,
28:19to people,
28:21me mate Brian,
28:22he's a great drummer,
28:24and one day,
28:26Tony Dolan,
28:30he was talking about,
28:32his mate,
28:34Steve White,
28:35they put up,
28:36his band needs a drummer,
28:38I says,
28:39I says to Dolan,
28:40I says,
28:40look,
28:40you've got to get,
28:42he has to,
28:43he has to try out,
28:44me mate Brian,
28:44he's a brilliant drummer,
28:45you know,
28:46so that's what they did,
28:48and Brian obviously,
28:49got the job straight away,
28:50because he was a great drummer,
28:51you know,
28:52and,
28:53that was,
28:55Brian,
28:57signed,
28:58to a signed band,
29:00you know,
29:01and they released an album,
29:02so,
29:03you know,
29:04going from a couple of,
29:05a couple of kids,
29:08you know,
29:08playing truant,
29:11and having up a school,
29:12and just walking out,
29:14two years earlier,
29:17you know,
29:18we did get to,
29:19I mean,
29:20Brian didn't,
29:21unfortunately for Brian,
29:23he didn't get,
29:23in any way,
29:24have the experiences,
29:25that I had,
29:27in his teens,
29:30that I did,
29:31with Atman Craft,
29:32but he did,
29:34though,
29:34get to,
29:35you know,
29:36to record an album,
29:38on New Records,
29:39and,
29:39you know,
29:43that was,
29:43that was a big thing,
29:45man,
29:45you know,
29:46it wasn't just,
29:48Newcastle label,
29:50you know,
29:50Venom were on it,
29:52you know,
29:52and Venom was sort of,
29:53hitting the big time,
29:55you know,
29:56you know,
29:58it was the whole,
29:59of the north east of England,
30:00and even Scotland,
30:02or the north of England,
30:03you know,
30:03bands were wanting to get on,
30:04the New Records,
30:05records,
30:05you know,
30:06and,
30:08certainly,
30:09me and Brian,
30:10you know,
30:11lads of our age,
30:12you know,
30:13what,
30:13you know,
30:14when you,
30:15when you,
30:16lads of our age,
30:17who were musicians,
30:18and,
30:19who had bands,
30:20and they didn't get to do any of that,
30:22and,
30:22you know,
30:23em,
30:25we did,
30:26we got signed to New Records,
30:27and,
30:30em,
30:31you know,
30:34that's,
30:35em,
30:36that's what I like to think,
30:37that's what I like to think about that,
30:39you know,
30:40Rub and Bri,
30:42we made it,
30:43we made it to New Records.
30:44We made it to New Records.
Comments