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02:29Our time has come. This is the Tang Dynasty again.
02:34We are a great power. We are a world power.
02:38They are playing the old Sun Tzu game.
02:42Winning the fight without firing a bullet.
02:45That isn't what Sun Tzu said, but win the battle without losing men.
02:51That's the best way of winning.
02:53And I think they're very conscious of this, but they're willing to fight.
02:59The world will run by three first-class countries.
03:16One is USA, United States of America.
03:20Another is USE, United States of Europe.
03:24Then, the greater China.
03:25At this point, at the current point, I think the possibility to see a USE is very slim.
03:41But the USE stay as top one country is something, sure.
03:46And as for the possibility of greater China, the possibility is something in between.
03:54So, I tend to think Sino-US relations will be one of the most important bilateral ties in the coming years.
04:03And this bilateral ties will decide the nature of international relations in the 21st century.
04:11If this bilateral ties is confrontation-oriented, then the whole 21st century will be bound by confrontation.
04:20Kinmen Island, the actual frontier between the two giants, and where the ultimate confrontation may take place.
04:39This little island belongs to Taiwan, but it is only two kilometers from the Chinese coast.
04:47From here, one can see the inaccessible banks of Fujian province, where hundreds of ballistic missiles point at Taipei.
04:5424 hours a day, for 60 years, Taiwan has been watching Communist China.
05:07This island, regularly threatened by Beijing, has been bombarded thousands of times.
05:13It has never surrendered.
05:16America has sent a message to Beijing.
05:18The fall of Kinmen would lead to a direct confrontation.
05:24We're in the Strait of Taiwan.
05:27It's here that a military clash might one day break out.
05:36Taiwan is one of those emotional hot-button issues.
05:40The way Jerusalem is to Palestinians and Israelis.
05:44The way Kosovo was to the Albanians and Serbs.
05:48And for most mainland Chinese, Taiwan is rightfully a Chinese province.
05:56This was territory that they believe was stolen from China by Japan in the 1895 war,
06:02and that the United States prevented reunification during the early stages of the Cold War because of our opposition to communism.
06:09In 1996, here in the Straits of Taiwan, China and America engaged in their biggest military standoff.
06:26The ongoing elections in Taiwan annoyed the regime in Beijing.
06:30So the Chinese army decided to launch huge military maneuvers to test the Americans' reaction.
06:36After several days of this Chinese show of force, Washington deployed two aircraft carriers.
06:55It was the first time the two countries came face to face.
07:00For several days, there was extreme tension between the two nuclear powers.
07:04When the Chinese fired short-range ballistic nuclear-capable missiles off the north and south coast of Taiwan
07:16and carried out a major, what we call a live-fire exercise,
07:21and Jiang Zemin was there, the president.
07:24They were using some very belligerent language.
07:28This is when we dispatched two carrier battle groups off the east coast.
07:33And this was a show, this was force.
07:39And the matter quickly dissipated.
07:47The Chinese thought this was excessive.
07:50They thought that they had an understanding with the U.S.,
07:53that they would have a limited display to show their seriousness on the issue.
07:57The U.S. would adopt a very limited response, and then they would both back away.
08:02They regarded the deployment of a second carrier as excessive and in some ways as humiliating to the Chinese,
08:09because the Chinese couldn't do much to deter or complicate the deployment of those carriers.
08:14I know this story well, and I can tell you that the truth is very different from the American propaganda.
08:32I was there in 1996.
08:34The Americans had promised to send an aircraft carrier to Taiwan for Election Day to protect Taiwan.
08:41But actually, the only American ship near Taiwan was the electronic spy ship Bunker Hill,
08:48and it was more than 200 nautical miles away.
08:53And the first American aircraft carrier was 600 nautical miles from Taiwan.
08:58So the truth is that the Americans announced that they were coming, but they kept their distance.
09:03They wanted at all costs to avoid any incident, and they didn't dare approach our army.
09:14Even if the Americans didn't take much of a risk, in the eyes of the world,
09:18they reaffirmed a sacred principle of their foreign policy.
09:22They support Taiwan.
09:24And they will continue to do so, regardless of China's growing power.
09:31I think, believes Taiwan is very important for a number of reasons.
09:36Not to mention the fact that it's our eighth largest trading partner,
09:40our sixth largest market for agricultural goods.
09:44It's one of America's most important sources of high-tech semiconductor products.
09:51Even though they're imported to the United States via China, they're made in Taiwan.
09:58But that, of course, isn't the only thing.
10:00The real reason I think America has a commitment to Taiwan is because Taiwan is a democracy.
10:06It is, in fact, the most vibrant and dynamic democracy in East Asia.
10:11And it's a democracy that came to fruition under the pressure of the U.S. government,
10:19primarily the Congress, after 40 years of very tight authoritarian rule by a regime that came from mainland China.
10:31I think, however, the real reason that the United States, especially the Pentagon, is so concerned about Taiwan,
10:39is that it has been a very strong defense and intelligence partner for the last 50 years, including the last 30 years since the breaking of relations with the Republic of China and Taiwan.
10:56We have still maintained a very strong defense relationship and a very strong intelligence collection relationship with Taiwan.
11:03I would say the United States is committed to Taiwan.
11:07This goes back, historically, a long, long way.
11:10World War II.
11:12We were there.
11:13And we were looking for a strong, unified, democratic China.
11:18Well, we got two-thirds of it.
11:20Strong and unified, not democratic.
11:22Now we're calling China a responsible stakeholder.
11:26We've got half of it.
11:27We've got a stakeholder, but not a responsible one yet.
11:31The U.S. feels that we have an obligation, legal, moral, to Taiwan, that we cannot stand idly by and let this be taken over by what looks like an authoritarian, communist-influenced power.
11:49This cannot be.
11:50This cannot be.
12:19Taiwan, an island of 23 million inhabitants, 250 kilometers from the Chinese coast, is today the most explosive strategic issue between China and the United States.
12:39Taipei, the capital, flaunts its economic success.
12:43It is one of the biggest centers in the world for the electronics industry.
12:47A modern city, free, young, and always noisy.
12:56In 1895, Taiwan was invaded by Japan.
13:00Fifty years later, after the Japanese defeat, peace treaties returned the territory to China.
13:06A China which was then in the midst of a civil war between Mao's communists and Chiang Kai-shek's nationalists.
13:13When the battle turned in Mao's favor, General Chiang Kai-shek, aided by the Americans, took refuge in Taiwan with his soldiers.
13:21Since then, two Chinese governments have co-existed.
13:32In Beijing, the communist regime that controls the entire mainland.
13:37And in Taipei, the nationalist regime, having become, little by little, a democracy, calling itself the Republic of China, which rules only Taiwan.
13:46Officially, these two governments both claim to be the legitimate representatives of all the Chinese.
13:53Taiwan is not recognized as a state by the UN.
13:57Only 20 small countries maintain diplomatic relations with the island.
14:02A fragile independence.
14:04While Beijing still considers Taiwan as the 23rd province of the People's Republic.
14:10A rebel province that the regime intends to reunite with the motherland.
14:16I would say two major motivations.
14:19There are many others, but two major ones.
14:21The first one is national pride.
14:25Unification of China.
14:27They are committed to this.
14:29This is a strong emotional drive in China.
14:33And you don't downplay it.
14:35It's real.
14:36It's powerful.
14:37The second is strategic.
14:38They know, through history, if Taiwan is in unfriendly hands, that China is very badly affected.
14:47If you turn the globe around, and if you were the Navy commander of the Chinese armed forces, then you will see the only way to protect my coastline is to extend our defense and power projection capability far away from our territory.
15:13Why I need to do that because the economic center, financial center, education center, production center of today's China is all on the coastline.
15:23So my, the Navy's mission is to make sure that nobody touches this so I can continue to grow.
15:33To go out, you have a big stone right there.
15:38Right there.
15:39You can go other places, but there is a stopper, a stone blocking your way, and that's Taiwan.
15:47Now, Taiwan depends on the outcome of elections that could change its executive power, and stock market risks that can endanger its economy.
15:56Beijing, nevertheless, has understood that whatever the mood on the island, especially when it is favorable to political reconciliation, the strategy must never change.
16:08Inperturbable, the communist regime continues.
16:12On one hand, to offer Taiwan favorable business privileges on the mainland, on the other hand, it regularly reiterates its military threats.
16:20If the Taiwanese are too insistent about their desire for independence, they're going to have to fight for it.
16:27Whatever Taiwan's political tendencies, Beijing's position doesn't change one iota.
16:33A freeway in the middle of the island of Taiwan.
16:49In a few minutes, it has been transformed into a landing strip.
16:53The population watches this military exercise.
16:56They're used to it.
16:57French Mirage 2000 and American F-16 jets land and take off with an enormous roar.
17:13Faced with the uncertainty of American support, Taiwan organizes its own defense.
17:19Everyone knows that the airports will be the first target.
17:21Strategists on both sides of the strait affirm that the war will first begin with an air battle.
17:35I think that experts the world over know that it's very difficult to succeed with an invasion.
17:42We still remember Normandy.
17:44In a strait like ours, it's what's in the air that will make the difference.
17:46And we've always tried to keep a strategic advantage over China, our air superiority.
17:51But with the Chinese missiles, this equilibrium has been put into question.
17:55They can destroy our airports.
17:57And if they are destroyed, we lose our only advantage over China, our air superiority.
18:00Taiwan's military power is concentrated in its air force, but also in special ground forces.
18:08They are training to face the Chinese People's Liberation Army.
18:12In the event of a conflict, they expect elite Chinese troops to perish.
18:15To parachute onto the island to attack strategic targets.
18:16Every Taiwanese people here knows that when the war comes, Taiwan is going to take the first bullet.
18:18We are going to take the first bullet.
18:19And probably we are going to take the bullets canoe for about two weeks and a half.
18:20Until that the United States coming.
18:21If the war comes when the country comes on the way, Taiwan is going to take the first bullet.
18:23We are going to take the first bullet.
18:24And probably we are going to take the bullets canoeing for about two weeks until a month.
18:33Until that United States is coming.
18:35Many Taiwanese people here know that when the war comes, Taiwan is going to take the
18:39first bullet.
18:40We are going to take the first bullet, and probably we are going to take the bullets
18:43continue for about two weeks until a month, until the United States is coming.
18:49And there is no way that the U.S. will come here to fight a difficult fight.
18:54If they really want to get involved, it's better for them to wait when the Taiwanese
18:59people are wearing down the Chinese elite troops and give them a huge number of sacrifices.
19:08And then the U.S. can come in and clean out the battlefield and win an easy fight.
19:12Everybody in Taiwan knows that.
19:26In Washington, the scenario of the next confrontation is a constant preoccupation.
19:31They know that Chinese military power has increased significantly, but how the Pentagon will react
19:37in case of a new Taiwan crisis remains a mystery.
19:45It's certainly not automatic, the support for Taiwan.
19:48It never has been.
19:50The United States has always maintained a policy of so-called strategic ambiguity in
19:55which neither Beijing nor Taiwan can know clearly what the U.S. response might be under
20:03any given set of circumstances.
20:08I think that 10 years later, from 1996, the missile crisis in the Taiwan Strait to 2007, we would
20:20approach the Taiwan issue with a little bit more caution.
20:23No, we would approach the Taiwan issue with a lot more caution.
20:30What this means, I think, is that we would be probably resupplying Taiwan by air.
20:37We probably would put an active-duty military contingent on Taiwan rather than risk putting
20:45our ships in harm's way.
20:48Coming away from this crisis, the U.S. has concluded that the—I think there's been problems
20:53in what they've concluded.
20:55The U.S. has concluded that the Chinese were somewhat intimidated by the—by the U.S. deployments,
21:02and that, in fact, they now know the U.S. is very determined to use force, if necessary,
21:07to ensure peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait.
21:11In fact, however, I don't think the Chinese were all that intimidated by the deployment of
21:16the carriers.
21:17What they were is they—it strengthened their resolve to acquire capabilities so that they
21:22won't be intimidated in the future.
21:34Since the 1996 confrontation between China and the United States around the Taiwan issue,
21:41I think China's military modernization speed up.
21:45And we saw—people saw some achievements, right?
21:51Now China owns J-10.
21:54That's the typical third-generation firefighter.
22:00And that made China the third country that can independently produce the third-generation
22:06firefighter.
22:07I think that's a strong signal to the U.S. side what achievement on military modernization
22:15on PLA side.
22:18If China's own terminal objective is trying to so-called unify Taiwan by using force to take
22:28it over, I think their military capability is good enough.
22:36But I don't see that.
22:38Because they are increasing their military budget over the last decade, almost every year, two-digit.
22:46And their budget is not transparent.
22:52Some observers calculated, they said, well, in fact, the real number could be triple or double
23:04the current budget that they made public.
23:10So why are they doing it?
23:12They even, for instance now, they even try to show off.
23:16They have the capability to destroy the satellite circling around in space.
23:24Why they did it?
23:26Because they want to show to the rest of the world that we are capable of one day becoming
23:31a superpower, maybe overtaking the United States.
23:46So why are they making a superpower, maybe a superpower, maybe a superpower, maybe a superpower.
24:00So why are they making a superpower?
24:08The United States
24:29Frankly speaking, the status quo, balance of power, is still strongly in favor of the United States.
24:38But the situation of balance of power is unchanged. And I think time is on China's side.
24:45Since the 1996 crisis, the United States and China have often had occasion to test each other's resolve.
25:00Small conflicts, sometimes public, sometimes secret, that can be understood today as a pattern of confrontations between the two powers.
25:07On May 7, 1999, in the midst of the Kosovo War, NATO bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.
25:14Three Chinese people were killed.
25:17NATO claimed it was a military error.
25:20NATO claimed it was a military error.
25:22CIA had apparently furnished the wrong maps.
25:27In answer to this provocation, the Chinese organized mass demonstrations in front of American embassies.
25:34In answer to this provocation, the Chinese organized mass demonstrations in front of American embassies.
25:41Less than two years later, China had its revenge.
25:48The 1st of April, 2001, an EP3 took off from its base in Japan.
25:55It's a spy plane that flies regular electronic surveillance missions along the Chinese coast.
25:58The 1st of April, 2001, an EP3 took off from its base in Japan.
26:04It's a spy plane that flies regular electronic surveillance missions along the Chinese coast.
26:23After six hours of flight, while still in international airspace, the American airplane was intercepted by three Chinese jets.
26:36This had been going on for some months.
26:39The Chinese planes came within a few meters of the American plane.
26:43A little game that the pilots were used to.
26:46One of the Chinese pilots was Wang Wei, and the crew of the EP3 knew him well.
26:53He had already shown through his past interceptions of U.S. aircraft that he was willing to take some very serious risks in coming very, very close to U.S. aircraft.
27:03They knew him well.
27:05Smart aleck. Hot dog, we call him.
27:08He's in the thing, and screw you.
27:11And Sam, he comes up like this.
27:13Well, he comes a little bit too close.
27:16And the Chinese, again, the propaganda apparatus turns on, and they say,
27:21our plane deliberately turned, hit his plane, and it crashed.
27:25Your fault.
27:27And we said to China, that defies the laws of physics.
27:34The U.S. government had already expressed its concern over this to the Chinese government.
27:39I think in this instance, he miscalculated, and he allowed his aircraft to get too close, and it struck the U.S. aircraft, and it damaged his aircraft in a way that forced him to crash.
27:53The Chinese jet plunged into the sea. Its pilot was declared missing. The EP3 was seriously damaged.
28:05It was forced to make an emergency landing, but the closest airstrip was a Chinese military airbase.
28:12The airplane succeeded in landing there, but it was now in Hainan, and the crew was immediately taken prisoner.
28:20Our air crew is immune to PRC jurisdiction.
28:26For the next 10 days, China and the U.S. would perform a diplomatic ballet, each accusing the other of responsibility for the accident.
28:35Beijing refused to liberate the crew.
28:38This bought time for their military experts to inspect and dismantle the American airplane, which was jam-packed with secret defense equipment.
28:48Oh, they got the equipment from the plane, and they studied it and took all these things from it. Yeah, they got something.
28:54But I mean, it's no big deal.
28:57Finally, 10 days later, a letter from the U.S. Ambassador apologized for the death of the Chinese pilot, and the crew was freed.
29:09What was left of the EP3 was loaded onto a huge Antonov transport plane.
29:15Direction, the United States.
29:23The People's Liberation Army did the same thing after each small battle.
29:28They analyzed all American techniques and strategies.
29:32It was almost an obsession with Beijing.
29:34Chinese military development was entirely oriented towards a confrontation with the U.S.
29:40In 1996, China understood that aircraft carriers were the main threat, so they tried to develop arms to counter them.
29:50There are several things that the Chinese have done over the last several years that play to this capability.
29:56One of them is they have developed a larger number of more sophisticated submarines, diesel submarines.
30:04And contrary to what a lot of people think, many diesel submarines are quieter than many nuclear submarines.
30:11They're very hard to detect.
30:13The Chinese have built a significant number of new types of diesel submarines.
30:17They've also developed a significant number of new varieties of surface warships.
30:22Both of these sets of capabilities have application to the Taiwan situation.
30:27And the Chinese have deployed the submarines, in some instances, to areas well beyond Taiwan.
30:34They've deployed them around Guam, which is now becoming an area of increased U.S. military presence in the Pacific.
30:42They've shown by doing this that they have the capability to deploy submarines into far deep water areas.
30:49And obviously this becomes a potential concern to any carrier battle group commander who wants to bring a carrier up close to Taiwan.
30:58We saw last October 26th our carrier battle group, the Kitty Hawk, was in the waters in the vicinity of Okinawa.
31:07And all of a sudden there emerged, right in the middle of the carrier battle group, a very modern Chinese submarine that nobody had seen, nobody had heard.
31:18It came up within a few miles of the Kitty Hawk itself.
31:23And we know that this submarine is equipped with very advanced torpedoes and that if it wanted to, it could have sunk our carrier.
31:32The Chinese know we are dependent on two things militarily in Asia.
31:37Number one, satellites. Number two, aircraft carriers.
31:40They have demonstrated to us, they can take out each one.
31:46Will they ever do that? I doubt it.
31:49This is what you might call psychological warfare.
31:52Satellites are an American strong point. But if you look closely, they can also be a weak point.
32:12The US relies on satellites to control their entire communications network, and that's a weakness.
32:19Today, and we were able to verify this during the last conflicts, the American military depends too much on its electronics and satellites.
32:27This dependence reminds me of the Greek legend, the powerful Achilles, who was invulnerable except for his heel.
32:35And satellites are little like the American Achilles heel.
32:42The 11th of September, 2006, the People's Liberation Army launched a missile that destroyed one of its own satellites.
32:53The explosion in space was obviously immediately detected by the Pentagon.
32:58There was consternation in Washington. Nobody had anticipated this Chinese initiative.
33:05The Chinese have had an anti-satellite program for some time now.
33:10And it's designed primarily to, again, to deter the United States or to complicate U.S. decisions in the event of a crisis.
33:19So, yes, I think the recent shot by the missile, by the missile to fire against their own satellite and shoot down their own satellite,
33:26was designed to convey a signal to the United States about the fact that the Chinese are not simply going to sit back in their view
33:35and allow the U.S. to have predominant influence.
33:38They are going to try to influence the situation, in this case, in sort of an asymmetrical way,
33:42by threatening what is regarded as one of the critical areas of U.S. surveillance.
33:48The Chinese army has also developed another system to blind American satellites.
33:57These are giant lasers that don't destroy them, but blind them enough to make them useless.
34:03This isn't science fiction, but a technology that is already in use.
34:09And then there exists a still more terrible weapon, a weapon that the Americans and the French have already mastered.
34:16Its development was a priority for the Chinese army.
34:20The Chinese have followed very closely the American dependence on the electromagnetic spectrum,
34:29the use of communications and networking among satellites and ships and command systems to fight a war.
34:42They saw what happened in the first Gulf War.
34:44They saw what happened in Kosovo.
34:46They watched Afghanistan.
34:48They watched the second Gulf War.
34:50They realized that we are more and more dependent on the electromagnetic spectrum and moving communications back and forth.
35:00And an electromagnetic pulse, which is produced by detonating a nuclear weapon,
35:07usually fries transistors and stops that kind of communication.
35:12An electromagnetic impulse weapon uses a nuclear explosion to generate an electromagnetic wave.
35:22When this wave hits boats or planes, it instantaneously destroys all electronic equipment.
35:28No one dies, provided they are far enough away from the nuclear explosion.
35:33But the American battleships, totally dependent on electronics, would immediately be disabled.
35:40The Pentagon report described a nuclear detonated or nuclear-generated EMP.
35:48I asked people in the Pentagon, why don't you say they have a conventionally generated EMP?
35:53They say, we don't want them to know whether we know them.
35:56The conventionally generated EMP is less problematic and it is more useful or more usable.
36:06Because when you have this EMP, there will be no nuclear fallouts.
36:11There will be less international protests.
36:14They already have it.
36:19Yes, it is like shooting down the satellite, getting the submarine under the aircraft carrier,
36:25EP-3 instant off-handland.
36:28It is, look, we mean business.
36:31You pay attention to what we are doing.
36:34We are publishing the figures that our military budget is going up
36:37because we are creating a strong defense against you.
36:45China's developing power isn't only military.
36:48The regime has understood that it has to make use of every citizen,
36:52every business, every organization in its confrontation with the United States.
36:57An arms race wouldn't make sense against Washington.
37:01It's a war to control energy, the media, culture and raw materials.
37:06And facing an America that over-consumes, that is deeply in debt,
37:10an America weakened by its own excesses,
37:13China counters with its best weapon, its breathtaking economic growth.
37:18The new threat isn't the classic military threat, direct confrontation between one country and another.
37:25Today it's no longer guns against guns, airplane against airplane or tank against tank.
37:30Confrontation takes many forms, in many different areas.
37:34For example, in finance or the media, there can be attacks in all these areas.
37:38The object of these new kinds of conflicts is the same as in a conventional military confrontation,
37:43forcing the enemy to accept certain conditions.
37:46It's still war, but war today goes beyond this military domain.
37:50It's what we call an unrestricted war.
37:56One has to learn to decode the battles in this new war.
37:59Sometimes they are small events that seem harmless at first.
38:03Thus, on February 27th, 2007, the main American stock indexes plunged.
38:10Paris had just lost 3%.
38:12New York is in an uproar.
38:15The cause of this mini-crash began with a tornado
38:18that originated on the other side of the world, in Shanghai.
38:22Suddenly, and with no apparent reason, the stock market there lost 9%,
38:27and it took the whole planet down with it.
38:30Nobody really understands what happened.
38:33But in New York, they pondered the lesson.
38:36China had just shown that it could use its new economic power
38:39to destabilize its adversaries.
38:42Above all, when they are weakened, like the United States, by the subprime crisis.
38:47Beijing uses economy in several ways.
38:50First, by influence.
38:53Well, in Southeast Asia, worldwide.
38:56They invest money when the leaders visit that capital.
39:00Then they sign some agreements.
39:02The second is what you said.
39:04They would only hint at something they might do.
39:08For instance, the now 1.2 trillion US dollars foreign reserve of China,
39:13as of the end of March 2007,
39:1640% of them are deposited in the United States treasury bills.
39:22So if Beijing decides to transfer that to euros,
39:26it would be very painful to the United States.
39:29But Beijing doesn't need to say.
39:31It only hints here and there.
39:33And Washington feels a big headache.
39:35Thus China and America multiply their battlefields.
39:44There is the piracy of Hollywood DVDs.
39:47The recall of Chinese toys by American builders.
39:50The reception of the Dalai Lama in Washington.
39:53The buying up of oil companies by Beijing.
39:56Hundreds of conflicts.
39:58China and America think that they have to dominate in order to survive.
40:03The US consumed over 35% of the whole, how to say, global consumption.
40:14Eight times as their population percentage.
40:18So they enjoy this position as the only superpower.
40:23Then they can get extra resources.
40:25So there is a bipartisan support stance for US foreign policy.
40:32They will remain as the only world leader in the world.
40:38And then they will keep alert against any country.
40:45No matter the name of this country.
40:48China, French, Russia, Germany, India, Brazil.
40:53Any country that can threaten the US dominance that will be power.
40:59That will be power.
41:00In Washington, China has become the major preoccupation of every administration.
41:02China is a competitor in the realms of economic development.
41:03China has become the major preoccupation of every administration.
41:04China is a competitor in the realms of economic development.
41:05media and technology.
41:06The world has become the major preoccupation of every administration.
41:07China is a competitor in the realms of economics, media and technology.
41:08world hegemony is no longer measured by the number of nuclear weapons.
41:11China is a competitor in the realms of economics, media and technology.
41:15world hegemony is no longer measured by the number of nuclear warheads.
41:22world hegemony is a competitor in the realms of economics, media and technology.
41:29world hegemony is a competitor in the realms of economics, media and technology.
41:34world hegemony is no longer measured by the number of nuclear warheads.
41:37world hegemony is no longer measured by the number of nuclear warheads.
41:50Congress has even created a permanent investigation commission, unique in its kind, whose mission
41:55is to study the economic and security challenges posed by China.
42:00Russia never got that kind of attention during the times of the Cold War.
42:04There is a global plan from China.
42:11They have two.
42:13One was started in March 1986 called the 863 program.
42:20And one in March 1997 called the 973 program.
42:26The first, the 863 program called the torch plan,
42:30was a global plan designed to gather and bring to China dual use technologies that could be used to improve China's technological base and economy and industry while improving its military capacity.
42:49And it's, it's, it's an organized thing, you know, each industry every year from the central government gets goals and targets and objectives and gets told to send people out and go do that.
43:02So it is organized and, and it's not perfect, but it's organized and the 973 plan is a parallel designed to improve their capacity and basic research and innovation.
43:15People in the States pay too much attention to China.
43:20So there are some, uh, oversensitive, uh, on China.
43:25Then this oversensitive leads to a lot of, how to say, over-exaggerate, uh, conclusion.
43:32So that's no good, uh, to find the real fact.
43:37Um, I think, uh, the real fact is that, uh, the economic, uh, power of China is still far ahead of, uh, far lack of, uh, United States, not to mention military power.
43:54If the French foreign intelligence collection service goes to a student and says while you're at Tufts University, we want you to go over to some laboratory and gather this.
44:22The student can say, I'm busy.
44:26It's going to interfere with my dissertation.
44:29If, if the Chinese intelligence service goes to a student and says, we want you to, you want a visa?
44:37You want a passport?
44:39When you go to the United States or to France, you will write a dissertation on this.
44:45You will work on this project and you will report back to us or you'll never get a job in China or your family.
44:51You'll lose its house.
44:52Now, they have the capacity to do that.
44:56The United States cannot maintain itself as a superpower if we allow our industrial, um, production, uh, to be, uh, offshore, to be outsourced.
45:11Um, and that's what's happening now.
45:14We're finding very large amounts of, of our basic core industries.
45:20And I don't mean just like steel.
45:23Steel is one of them.
45:24Copper, you know, basic, you know, uh, resources.
45:28But things like semiconductors.
45:30And when we find that our semiconductor industry has gone from 12, you know, state-of-the-art wafer fabs to three, um, because more and more are being built in Taiwan and Japan and, well, not in Japan, in, in South Korea.
45:47And, and in China, if we're allowing our, you know, uh, state-of-the-art cutting edge electronic science and technology research and development move to China, we, we can't survive as a superpower.
46:08This technological war culminates in cyberspace.
46:17China and the U.S. have armies which are developing cyber soldiers who spy on or attack each other's computer networks.
46:25In March 2006, the U.S. State Department decided to buy 16,000 computers from Lenovo, the Chinese company that had just bought out IBM.
46:44Some of these computers were meant for networks that circulate secret defense data.
46:50Larry Wurzel and his commission intervened to stop the delivery.
46:54Having been an intelligence officer for a lot of years, 25 years in military intelligence, um, and having also for a part of that time worked on counterintelligence and signals intelligence, communications intelligence, that, um, I knew it was technically possible.
47:23To alter or embed either software or even hardware into a computer that would, uh, allow someone access to a whole network.
47:39The entire Bureau of Export Controls of the Department of Commerce was attacked and shut down by, turns out, hackers from China.
48:01The, uh, the, uh, the, uh, National Defense University of the United States had its computer systems shut down and the Naval War College had its computer systems shut down.
48:18Other computer systems, uh, government computer systems, uh, government computer systems have been attacked.
48:23And I think General Cartwright, the, uh, the commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, has recently testified in front of Congress about this.
48:32So, so, so I knew these things were going on, um, um, there's more going on, um, that, uh, we learn about on the commission, uh, because we do have access to classified information.
48:44Uh, I, I can only say that in many cases, uh, the United States knows these attacks are coming from China and knows that they're coming even from specific organizations in China.
48:57But I, I, I can't go into the details on who.
49:02Uh, the war on the Internet is as old as the Internet itself.
49:07And one can't say that this was a Chinese invention.
49:12In America, the CIA and NASA employ 25,000 people to work on the Internet.
49:18They have the largest Internet surveillance and listening centers.
49:22So it's true, war exists on the Internet.
49:26The war has begun without a single missile being fired, without the world noticing.
49:31The war has begun in all of these new technologies.
49:36Many civil technologies also have military applications.
49:41This is especially true of the entire electronics industry and the Internet.
49:46There are new battlefields in an unrestricted war.
49:53The media, finance, business, all these are included.
50:00It's a war because there is real antagonism.
50:03And both parties try to take advantage of their adversary.
50:05It's a new form of war.
50:07The unrestricted war.
50:09It's a new form of war.
50:10The unrestricted war.
50:12This unrestricted war has already begun.
50:14Almost everywhere in the world, there is a fight for oil, for water, and water.
50:19For resources that are dwindling in the eyes of the West, because of China's development.
50:24America uses its military might to assure its power, and guarantee its power.
50:27The power of the world can't use to take advantage of the world.
50:33This unrestricted war has already begun.
50:36Almost everywhere in the world, there is a fight for oil, for water, for resources that are dwindling in the eyes of the West, because of China's development.
50:49America uses its military might to assure its power and guarantee its vital supplies.
50:55China employs an asymmetrical strategy. It looks for its adversaries' weak points.
51:02Nevertheless, this war is apparent everywhere in the world.
51:05In North Korea, Myanmar, Iran or Darfur, in all the hotspots, China and America are opposing each other in the wings.
51:19Remember the words of Ding Jaoping, there cannot be two tigers on the same hill.
51:49In North Korea, Myanmar, Iran or Darfur, in all the hotspots, China and America are opposing each other in the wings.
52:19The End
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