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  • 7/17/2025
The legacy of Billy Tipton, a 20th-century American jazz musician and trans icon, is brought to life by a diverse group | dG1fcTdyR185RWRHenc
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00:01He was a doting, loving, caring, ordinary father.
00:06Father?
00:07Father.
00:08He was their father.
00:11I'm auditioning for the role of Billy.
00:13I'm here for the role of Billy.
00:15Auditioning for Billy.
00:16This is Billy.
00:22How would I summarize the story of Billy Tiptoon?
00:25He was a trans-masculine jazz musician.
00:28When I encountered Billy Tiptoon, that was the first time I encountered trans-masculinity.
00:35Those of us in this generation, we are in a much different place than Billy Tiptoon.
00:39We are public in a way that so many trans people before us haven't been able to be.
00:43Trans people's survival through history was based on invisibility.
00:48It's scary when centuries of your survival have been based on not being seen.
00:55And you have no models.
00:57You have no history.
00:58It's like you never existed, but you know you must have.
01:00And then you see Billy Tiptoon and you think,
01:02people like me existed and they did things.
01:04They were jazz musicians.
01:05They'd be one of the greatest jazz musicians ever.
01:07So that you're looking for someone who exists like you, so you're not alone.
01:11I'm Billy Tiptoon.
01:13There's a whole history of media where you see people and you don't realize that they're trans,
01:22and then something gives it away.
01:24And more often than not, it's the voice.
01:26My voice still squeaks.
01:27It keeps dropping, so I can't get used to it.
01:29I'm still trying to make my voice sound deeper all the time.
01:32It's such a volatile and complicated thing to imagine that we know what people's gender is from looking at them.
01:40It's not a question about passing.
01:43It's a transition story about somebody who's unhappy about something in their life,
01:48and they figure out the way to make themselves happy.
01:52Billy Tiptoon was so ahead of his years to be brave enough to hide in plain sight.
01:59He feels like he's the only person in the world who's like him.
02:02I've had that moment.
02:04So much of my not being seen as a small person has led me to this role of somebody who desperately wants to be seen.
02:13Lots of people in my community look to your dad as a kind of hero.
02:17It kind of blows me away that, you know, after all these years, anybody even remembers him.
02:22I thought I was like totally alone in this.
02:24I was like, I'm like, I'm not trying to be a part of the original.
02:29So I was like, my God.
02:30I came to help you out in my memory.
02:31So that's what I got here.
02:34I was just like, I'm like, I'm like, I was like, I'm a guy.
02:36I was like, I'm like.
02:37I was like, I'm like where I was.
02:39I'm like, I'm like.
02:41I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like.

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