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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

FilmsActu X Nicolas Winding Refn (Interview)
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05:58C'est ce qui se passe dans l'espace théâtre,
06:02l'espace d'un-réalité, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution, vous le savez.
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûre qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté créative
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27Je n'ai pas besoin d'un côté.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:30j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36J'ai besoin d'un côté de quelque chose.
06:57J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
06:59J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
06:59J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:01J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:04J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:06J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:10J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:11J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:14J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:16J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:17J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:22J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:24J'ai besoin d'un côté de 4K.
07:25J'ai besoin d'un côté de me.
07:28Bien jouw directement par me.
07:32I'll sign your box set
07:34and send it off to you
07:36I am
07:37I'm a huge fan of 4K
07:40like I love 4K
07:42I think 4K is like
07:43amazing
07:45because so many films
07:46can be rewatched
07:49with even better quality
07:50and who doesn't want that
07:53so it's kind of like
07:55a new layer of
07:56the new normal for me
07:58so I decided to do all my films in 4K
08:01slowly rolling them out
08:03I think cinema
08:08and television for that matter
08:10has had a very tough time
08:12in the last 10 years or so
08:1410-15 years
08:15gaming, social media, VR
08:18canvases are exploding
08:20and they're constantly evolving
08:22because technology is allowing them to evolve
08:24movies and television
08:26TV is becoming more and more
08:28just content
08:30that you almost look at
08:31while you're doing other things
08:33and movies are still
08:35that window of exclusivity
08:37of the collective experience
08:39but I think that movies
08:41also needs to
08:42re-evaluate themselves
08:44I remember when we were in Cannes
08:46for Only God Forgives
08:47and I
08:48after everyone had been
08:49booing me for so long
08:51that during my stay
08:53I did say
08:55look
08:55you can be angry with me
08:57and about my film
08:58but I am
08:59from the future
09:01and I'm going to make something
09:02that's going to predict
09:03what it's going to be like
09:05if you want to make films
09:06in the future
09:07and
09:08I was right
09:09because
09:09right after
09:10Only God Forgives
09:11the industry changed
09:12because of Netflix
09:13Netflix was the game changer
09:15and it changed
09:17not so much
09:18what we're making
09:18but it's how we
09:19experienced
09:20film
09:22and content
09:22essentially
09:23how we viewed it
09:24and I think that
09:25to justify
09:26or for a movie
09:27to exist
09:28in longevity
09:29you have to
09:30see
09:31what a film can become
09:33rather than
09:33what it used to be
09:34Violence is like sex
09:38it's all about
09:40the build up
09:40Bang! Bang!
09:41And then it's to the
09:42other wall
09:43Now make it dirty
09:44unique
09:44interesting
09:45never seen before
09:46in violence
09:46I'm not that
09:51strategic
09:52but I will say
09:53that
09:54everything is
09:55an evolution
09:56of something
09:57and
09:58there can be
10:00a tendency
10:00when something
10:02is liked
10:03that
10:03everyone
10:05wants the same
10:07same
10:07but I don't
10:08necessarily think
10:09that's true
10:09it's better to give
10:10them something else
10:12or something different
10:13or something that
10:14destroys your past
10:16in order to make
10:17something new
10:19to transition
10:20you know
10:20obviously the two films
10:22are very different
10:23but what ties them
10:24is
10:25myself
10:26and Ryan's
10:27interaction
10:28however I find
10:30that interesting
10:30it's like taking
10:32something and turning
10:33it on its head
10:34it's taking the
10:35ultimate superhero
10:36in one movie
10:37and emasculating
10:38him in the next
10:39it's taking one movie
10:41that's very poppy
10:42and another movie
10:43that's very
10:44esoteric
10:45and that
10:46I think
10:47is
10:48what makes
10:49the world
10:49interesting
10:50is that
10:50things can
10:51become
10:51different
10:52it can evolve
10:53into other
10:54components
10:55rather than
10:56just always
10:57staying in the
10:58same repeat
10:59lane
10:59because you
11:00very quickly
11:01run out of steam
11:02in my opinion
11:03I was
11:03I was very happy
11:05but obviously
11:06you know
11:07a lot of harsh
11:08reactions
11:09and
11:10a lot of
11:11booing
11:11and screaming
11:12but then
11:12I was like
11:13that's kind
11:14of cool
11:15because
11:15then you're
11:16like
11:16sex pistols
11:17of cinema
11:18you know
11:18you're like
11:19the one
11:19everyone throws
11:20bottles at
11:21but
11:21you can't
11:22deny it
11:23existence
11:23you can't
11:24really
11:24criticize it
11:25because
11:26I did it
11:26my way
11:27the world
11:28will see it
11:29as it continues
11:30to evolve
11:31and you just
11:32have to be
11:33you have to
11:33just to be
11:34trust yourself
11:35so you never
11:36lose your vision
11:36when you have
11:37that strong reaction
11:38no on the
11:39contrary
11:39you're like
11:40it's like
11:41energy
11:41it's like
11:42just wait
11:42for the next
11:43one
11:43I love that
11:44I'm like you
11:45I have no regrets
11:47about only God
11:47forgives
11:48I think it's a
11:48masterpiece
11:49and it is
11:49I just didn't
11:51make it very
11:52expensive
11:52is there a doctor
11:53in the house
11:53we need to get
11:56a medic in here
11:57is there
11:58a doctor
11:59around
11:59when you were
12:00mentioning
12:012001
12:02you forgot to add
12:04drive
12:04we'll let that
12:05slip
12:06we won't know
12:07about drive
12:08for another
12:0830 years
12:0930 seconds
12:10whether it lives
12:12or die
12:12I'm talking
12:13about films
12:132001 was made
12:16in 1968
12:18I made this film
12:19about 4 years ago
12:20so it's about
12:204 years is a zip
12:21it's not even a blip
12:23it's not a pimple
12:25on the asshole
12:27of humanity
12:28what was funny
12:29about talking
12:30to Billy Freakin
12:30was that it was
12:31he had a man
12:33who had struggled
12:34a lot in Hollywood
12:35and started
12:38very successfully
12:39at a young age
12:40and then
12:42gone into
12:42Sorceress
12:43and
12:43you know
12:45was still
12:46traumatized
12:47by that experience
12:48after so many years
12:49and I think
12:50that was what
12:51was so sad
12:51in a way
12:52that it had
12:53such an effect
12:54on him
12:54it was a little bit
12:55like Michael
12:55Cimino
12:56doing Heaven's Gate
12:57these amazing films
12:59both Sorceress
13:01and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably
13:03their best films
13:04for some reason
13:05get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose
13:09sight of themselves
13:10or they lose
13:11their confidence
13:12and it affects
13:12all the other movies
13:14they make afterwards
13:15and I was like
13:16I'm never going to
13:17be like that
13:17because I'm right
13:19you're wrong
13:19I mean I've
13:24done two shows
13:26one with Amazon
13:27one with Netflix
13:27and I like
13:29what I was making
13:30obviously
13:30but I
13:31I don't know
13:32how
13:32how
13:34much I want
13:35to continue
13:36I may want
13:37to take a break
13:38and
13:38go and make
13:40movies again
13:41I've decided
13:42to do more
13:42visual arts
13:44you know
13:45and
13:45trying
13:46to find
13:48other areas
13:49of creativity
13:50but I think
13:51it's time
13:52to go make
13:53a film again
13:53You said
13:54you work on
13:54two shows
13:55but you work on
13:55The Famous Five
13:56or something
13:57So The Famous Five
13:58was a television show
14:00that I just
14:01how do you say
14:02executive produced
14:03or created
14:04but I had no
14:05involvement in it
14:06otherwise
14:07I just created
14:08the kind of
14:08concept and the story
14:10based on these
14:11very famous books
14:12The Famous Five
14:13was more because
14:13my kids would read
14:14the books
14:15when they were young
14:16I remember my mother
14:17reading me the books
14:18so it was more like
14:19a past history
14:21thing that came up
14:22to give us an opportunity
14:23Well I mean
14:28if something is interesting
14:29you know
14:30why not look at it
14:31I've had some wonderful
14:32meetings in Hollywood
14:33met wonderful people
14:35but in the end
14:36I like my freedom
14:37that's all I really want
14:39is just to be free
14:40when you work in Hollywood
14:42there is a contract
14:44some people love that
14:45and can work within that
14:47it's maybe not
14:49so much my thing
14:50right now
14:51but who knows
14:51maybe next year
14:52I'll do a big
14:53you know
14:55big superhero movie
14:56that could be fun
14:59maybe
14:59I don't know
14:59I'm pretty open
15:00to anything
15:01but at the same time
15:02at the end
15:03you should just
15:04make what makes you happy
15:05It's one thing
15:06having creative control
15:08which is
15:08easier enough
15:10but it's where
15:11all the money
15:12that's invested
15:13puts a burden on you
15:15because all that money
15:17has to get
15:17you know
15:18recouped
15:19and then you have to
15:19make a certain
15:20type of movie
15:21you don't have the
15:22freedom to do
15:23whatever you want
15:23because you're
15:24you're a slave
15:25to the economics
15:26if your film
15:27costs 200 million dollars
15:29or 100 million dollars
15:30you need to make
15:31300-400 million dollars
15:32to break even
15:33that already puts
15:34a strain on
15:34what kind of movie
15:35can you make
15:36and I don't want
15:37any conditions
15:39on me
15:39at all
15:41you have to be
15:42completely free
15:43I mean
15:48in the beginning
15:49a lot of people
15:49were talking
15:50about another drive
15:51but it was like
15:52that would be
15:53the worst idea
15:54I've ever heard of
15:55So never?
15:56Never
15:57I've been very lucky
16:07to live
16:07a fun life
16:09and
16:10it has nothing
16:12to do with fame
16:13you realize
16:15very quickly
16:16it has
16:17that I've had
16:18opportunities
16:19and I've been able
16:20to work with people
16:21I've met people
16:23I've spoken with people
16:24and
16:25it's all been
16:26a lot of fun
16:27but I think
16:28when I started
16:29the idea
16:31of being seen
16:32was very essential
16:33the idea of fame
16:34and fame
16:35being
16:36it's like an opportunity
16:38it's like a stage
16:39one thing is becoming famous
16:41the next
16:42what are you going to do with it
16:43and obviously
16:44it's like anything
16:45it's an opportunity
16:46I'll never let you see
16:49I don't want to love
16:50He'll be much
16:51I can't work
16:51all the time
16:52I'll also
16:53I still want to work
16:54but I also
16:55I...
16:56I...
16:57we should be here
16:59in Bangkok
16:59for 6 months
17:00and
17:01Yang Han
17:01will make
17:02it's next film
17:02and I've said
17:03yeah to
17:03the process
17:04it's new
17:06that we're
17:07with him
17:08when he filming
17:09last
17:10when he was
17:11in the drive
17:11I was home
17:12in Danmark
17:12avec les enfants.
17:13Mais il y a 10 mois.
17:15Et c'est difficile d'être chez eux.
17:20Mon quotidien est une routine.
17:23Je me réveille.
17:24Je fais deux heures de sport tous les jours.
17:27J'ai généralement j'ai l'air.
17:29J'ai l'air.
17:30J'ai l'air.
17:32J'ai l'air.
17:33J'ai l'air.
17:34J'ai l'air.
17:35J'ai l'air.
17:36J'ai l'air.
17:37J'ai l'air.
17:39Je retrouve bien, mais Ce soir.
17:42J'ai l'air.
17:43J'essaie de réjumping.
17:45Et l'autre jour,chtc fox ?
17:47Vous jouez-tu?
17:48J' pouvais
17:57Et je vis.
18:00Il effects de ton sport au Tokyo.
18:02J'ai fait beaucoup d'erv gatil.
18:04A collaboration avec Ido Kojima.
18:06Oui.
18:07C'est bon.
18:08J'ai créé une expérience qui a créé l'expérience d'après-midi la semaine dernière en Tokyo,
18:16où j'ai créé cette installation entre nous.
18:20J'ai vu ma femme et ma fille dans la procession.
18:24Hé, c'est moi !
18:31Où vas-tu ?
18:33J'ai vu ma femme !
18:39J'ai vu ma femme !
18:41Non !
18:42Non !
18:43Non !
18:44Non !
18:45Non !
18:46Non !
18:47Et vous êtes en Death Stranding 2.
18:50Je suis en Heart Man, et Heart Man est toujours en Death Stranding.
18:54Je pense que vous ne croisez pas tout ce que vous létez sur Internet.
19:03Ok.
19:04Vous pouvez nous dire quelque chose ?
19:05Oui, croise tout ce que vous létez sur Internet.
19:07Ah, ok.
19:08!