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  • 7/14/2025
Watch Cooper Midroni, Sr. Product Manager, Ecosystem at Arbitrum, dive into the critical topic of interoperability at RAD Denver, hosted by Zeeve. He unpacks why bridging different blockchains matters more than ever and how Arbitrum is simplifying that process for users. Discover insights into their Universal Intents Engine, how you can experiment with Arbitrum Orbit testnets for just $50, and why infrastructure partners like Zeeve play a key role in accelerating blockchain development. Explore how Arbitrum is enhancing user experience and pushing the boundaries of what's possible in Web3.

Key Topics:
🔹Interoperability in blockchain
🔹Arbitrum's approach to user experience
🔹Universal Intents Engine
🔹Arbitrum Orbit testnets
🔹The role of Zeeve

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🔹Learn from an Arbitrum expert.
🔹Understand the future of blockchain connections.
🔹See how Zeeve helps developers.

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00:00So, hi, everyone. I have Cooper from Austin Labs with me, and we had a fantastic panel
00:08a while ago. We talked about everything which is happening in this space, how layer 2s, layer
00:123s are scaling, specifically how Arbitrum is looking towards this new future. So, Cooper,
00:18you know, we didn't talk about universal intent engine. I think we heard Ed Felton this morning,
00:23you know, during his keynote. But I think I would request you to elaborate more upon, you know,
00:28how it impacts the projects per se, because technically, you know, it can be a complex
00:32thing. But how can you simply explain it to the users who are building on Arbitrum today?
00:37Yeah, I think that, you know, it's best to start with maybe the background for why interoperability
00:41is such a, you know, essential problem to be solving. You know, when we decided to scale Ethereum,
00:47we naturally landed on the roll-up as this primitive, and that resulted in all these, you know,
00:51islands of applications and liquidity and users that really have a difficult time communicating
00:57with each other. So, when we decided how we wanted to solve this, we really approached it
01:03from a deeply, like, user-driven perspective, where we said, what is the experience we want
01:07users to have when they, you know, use applications on Arbitrum or on any Arbitrum chain using the
01:12Orbit stack? And we came up with this tagline, which was, under three seconds swaps and transfers
01:18to and from any Ethereum chain. And so, the idea there is that within the context of the application
01:24that you're using, you don't have to go to a canonical bridge, you don't have to use a third
01:28party page, it's all just within the seamless experience. And so, that naturally landed on the
01:33Intense framework for how we would approach the problem. And so, Intense are basically this really
01:39great solution where a user can just express, you know, the intention of their, you know, state change,
01:45saying, I want to, you know, put this asset on this chain at this address. And a, you know,
01:50another ecosystem of actors called solvers will basically figure out all the complicated routing,
01:57you know, DEX aggregation that needs to be done to get from A to B. And so, this leaves the user
02:03with a really great experience where they actually walk away with their assets in a matter of seconds.
02:07You know, they pay a small fee to solvers who are going to be, you know, paid for the risk and
02:11also the work of doing this kind of aggregation. But the user gets to immediately use that app,
02:15so it solves this really great, really big cold start and onboarding problem. So, you can just get
02:20right to being a user and applications can have a faster onboarding experience.
02:24Right. This is great. But I want to, I want to ask you a tougher question.
02:28And that is, you know, we have seen that each ecosystem is building their own interrupt solutions.
02:32You know, in Polkart we have XCM, in Avalanche we have ICM, now in Arbitrum we've got a solution.
02:37So, is our intent is for everybody or is only for Arbitrum ecosystem change? And how do you see the
02:43the idea about, you know, overall Web3 ecosystem interoperability going in future?
02:48Yeah, I think that interoperability will continue to be, you know, very heterogeneous. There will be a
02:52lot of solutions out there because there's just a lot of different, you know, bridges, VMs, chain
02:59stacks. And so, I think there's going to be this, you know, very, you know, competitive layer of many
03:05different types of solutions, Intense being one of them. But what I think is going to be important is that
03:10there's going to be a wrapper around all of that so that as an app you can kind of plug into one
03:15place and get the benefits of, you know, whatever is underneath that layer. So, an application doesn't
03:21have to make, you know, multiple decisions of, you know, bridging partners and integration choices.
03:25It should just have one kind of clear option. And for users, all of that complexity should also be
03:31hidden. And so, you know, this looks like not needing to know, you know, which chain your assets
03:35are on. This looks like maybe not even knowing what chain the app is on. You're just kind of using
03:39this experience of like a somewhat financialized application and the blockchain is the back end.
03:44So, I think the way it's going to roll out, you know, we see this Intense engine is connecting
03:48any Arbitrum application, any Arbitrum chain to all of Ethereum. It's not going to be limited to
03:53just within the Arbitrum ecosystem, which I think is pretty unique as far as the interoperability
03:57solutions that other stacks are taking. You know, we really want to grow the pie and we want users to
04:01be able to express their preferences, have very little friction from going to A to B and using any app.
04:06And I think that this kind of is a great step. There'll be more kind of, you know,
04:09deeper protocol solutions that might come later. But Intense engine is something that we thought
04:13we could bundle together, deliver in the next, you know, month or two. I think we expected to come
04:17out in April on the initial set of chains. So that's our approach so far.
04:21I think fantastic. And this is what I love about Web3 ecosystem comparing, you know, what we've seen
04:25in Web2 in the past that everybody's so open about, you know, how they want to approach the future
04:29together. And, you know, I have the similar thoughts and all I've heard from all the other
04:33frameworks, stacks and chains that they want to come together somewhere in the future and
04:36standardize this. And I think I hear the same from you when you talk about how users would
04:40be enriched with these, you know, experiences of Interop without caring about what chain they
04:45are running upon. So this is good to know. Now, you know, you're at Zeev Rollup and AppChain Day.
04:50You've been on a panel as well. And, you know, we've been busy building Arbitrum
04:53Orbit chains, helping customers, you know, build these chains. And now recently we started offering,
04:58you know, Arbitrum Orbit testnet in $50. We're making it as easy as possible for the projects to adopt.
05:03The solutions. So how important do you think these kinds of solutions and enablements
05:08are there for ecosystem? Yeah, I think incredibly important. I think that we're at this really
05:13amazing time where, you know, as a builder, your options of just picking a few right partners
05:19can actually get you to accelerate your go to market by months. You know, when I've been part of,
05:24you know, several kind of chain launches. And years ago, it used to take, you know,
05:29at least a year to get all the infrastructure partners that you would need onboarded. So you
05:33could offer kind of a best in class experience for the builders in your chain. Now, if you partner,
05:37you know, with a role as a service team like Zeev, you accelerate that go to market and it's a matter
05:41of weeks. You know, your team has the partners, you have the infrastructure integrations, and you can
05:46kind of bundle all that in a way that it's, you know, it's simple sometimes just clicking deploy.
05:51So I think that's a huge step up from, you know, where we used to come from, where teams would roll
05:55their own infrastructure. And it just helps you as a builder focus on your special value add and get
06:00closer to the user. And at the end of the day, that's what it's about. You want to make sure that
06:04you're focusing on the unique product value. And sometimes the infrastructure is just there to
06:08support you. And you should be on that kind of last mile of capturing the user, engaging,
06:12retaining them. So I think partnering with the infrastructure team is definitely the way to go.
06:15You're super insider. And I think if you're a project built on Arbitrum Orbit, we're here.
06:20Arbitrum is here. And let's talk about taking you to the test and in the minute. Thank you, Cooper.
06:25Sounds great. Yeah. Thanks for having me.

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