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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:57Et j'aime l'extrême, donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans la fantasy, ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années, mais comme un show de TV.
05:12Et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy, qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:17Il y a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes.
05:20Mais je n'étais plus intéressé dans la manière dont j'étais, parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible et la plupart du tout est réel, ou à l'est qu'il peut être très réel, capturé de moment à moment.
05:39Et ce sont plus efficaces, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler ça dans mon version.
05:47C'est fantasy, et c'est ça que j'ai été plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le monde réel et de être plus excités par se passer dans le space théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent revenir et changer leurs films,
06:16je me suis sûre qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire, je n'ai jamais eu de créateur de l'unreur pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à vraiment changer.
06:27Je me regarde donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:30j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps, il n'est plus en moi.
06:36Je dois continuer à faire quelque chose.
11:01très rapidement, en mon opinion.
11:03Je suis très heureux, mais évidemment,
11:07il y a beaucoup de harsh reactions,
11:10et beaucoup de booing et de screaming.
11:12Mais je me suis dit,
11:14c'est un peu cool,
11:15parce que vous aimez le sex pistols de cinéma.
11:18Vous êtes comme le gars,
11:20tout le monde a throws des bottes à,
11:21mais vous ne pouvez pas dénir la existence.
11:24Vous ne pouvez pas vraiment critiquer,
11:26parce que je l'ai fait ma façon.
11:27Le monde va voir ça
11:29comme ça continue à évoluer.
11:31Et vous devez être,
11:33vous devez être,
11:34vous devez être,
11:35vous n'avez jamais à perdre votre vision
11:37quand vous avez cette réaction ?
11:39Non, au contraire,
11:40c'est comme l'énergie.
11:41C'est comme,
11:42juste pour le prochain.
11:44Je l'aime.
11:45Je suis comme toi,
11:46je n'ai pas de regrets
11:47mais que Dieu forgives.
11:48Je pense que c'est une masterpiece,
11:49et c'est.
11:50Je n'ai pas fait ça.
11:52Est-ce qu'il n'est pas très expensive.
11:53Est-ce qu'il y a un docteur ?
11:54Nous avons besoin d'un medic ici.
11:57Est-ce qu'il y a un docteur ?
11:59Est-ce qu'il y a un docteur ?
12:00Oui,
12:01vous avez mentionné 2001,
12:02il est en train de changer pour que Nine,
12:03vous vous avez encore plus de drive.
12:05Nous allons pas savoir de drive
12:09en plus de 30 ans.
12:1130 secondes.
12:12I'm talking about films, 2001 was made in 1968.
12:18I made this film about four years ago.
12:20Four years is a zip.
12:22It's not even a blip.
12:24It's not a pimple on the asshole of humanity.
12:28What was funny about talking to Billy Friedkin
12:31was that he had a man who had struggled a lot in Hollywood
12:36and started very successfully at a young age
12:41and then had gone into Sorceress
12:44and was still traumatized by that experience after so many years.
12:50And I think that was what was so sad in a way
12:53that it had such an effect on him.
12:55It was a little bit like Michael Cimino doing Heaven's Gate.
12:58These amazing films, both Sorceress and Heaven's Gate
13:02are probably their best films,
13:05for some reason get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose sight of themselves
13:10or they lose their confidence
13:12and it affects all the other movies they make afterwards.
13:15And I was like, I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right, you're wrong.
13:24I mean, I've done two shows, one with Amazon, one with Netflix
13:28and I like what I was making, obviously.
13:31But I don't know how much I want to continue.
13:36I may want to take a break and go and make movies again.
13:41I've decided to do more visual arts, you know,
13:45and trying to find other areas of creativity.
13:51But I think it's time to go make a film again.
13:54You said you work on two shows, but you work on The Famous Five also.
13:57The Famous Five was a television show that I just, how do you say,
14:02executive produced or created, but I had no involvement in it.
14:06Otherwise, I just created the kind of concept and the story based on these very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother reading me the books.
14:18So it was more like a past history thing that came up as an opportunity.
14:23Well, I mean, if anything, if something is interesting, you know, why not look at it?
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood, met wonderful people.
14:35But in the end, I like my freedom.
14:38That's all I really want is just to be free.
14:41When you work in Hollywood, there is a contract.
14:44Some people love that and can work within that.
14:47It's maybe not so much my thing right now, but who knows?
14:52Maybe next year I'll do a big, you know, big superhero movie.
14:57That could be fun, maybe. I don't know.
15:00I'm pretty open to anything, but at the same time, at the end, you should just make what makes you happy.
15:06It's one thing having creative control, which is easier enough.
15:11But it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you.
15:16Because all that money has to get, you know, recouped.
15:19And then you have to make a certain type of movie.
15:21You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want, because you're a slave to the economics.
15:27If your film costs $200 million or $100 million, you need to make $300, $400 million to break even.
15:33That already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make.
15:36And I don't want any conditions on me at all.
15:41You have to be completely free.
15:43I mean, in the beginning, a lot of people were talking about another drive, but it was like, that would be the worst idea I've ever heard of.
15:55So never?
15:56Never.
15:57Never.
15:58I've been very lucky to live a fun life.
16:11It has nothing to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:17It has that I've had opportunities, and I've been able to work with people.
16:22I've met people.
16:23I've spoken with people.
16:25And it's all been a lot of fun.
16:28But I think when I started, the idea of being seen was very essential.
16:34The idea of fame.
16:35And fame being an opportunity.
16:37It's like an opportunity.
16:38It's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous.
16:41The next.
16:42What are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously, it's like anything.
16:45It's an opportunity.
16:47I don't have any love.
16:50You have to work all the time.
16:52I also have to work.
16:54I also have to work.
16:58We're going to be here in Bangkok for six months.
17:01Yang Han will make his next film, and I have said yes to the film process.
17:05It's new that we're together with him, when he's filming.
17:10When he did Drive, I was home in Denmark with the children.
17:14And it took over ten months.
17:16And it was just too hard to be away from each other.
17:21My daily life is, I have a routine.
17:23I wake up.
17:24I do two hours sports every day.
17:27Then I usually have lunch.
17:30Then I get yelled at by my kids.
17:33I work at night.
17:35And then try not to get to bed too late.
17:39And then Friday comes and it's weekend.
17:42And you try to relax a little more.
17:45And the next day is Monday.
17:47You watch movies?
17:49I used to watch a lot of movies when I was a lot younger.
17:52But now it's just harder and harder.
17:54There's other things that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:57Well, I did my first exhibition that just opened in Tokyo.
18:02And that's been a lot of fun to do that.
18:04A collaboration with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Yeah.
18:07Can you talk about that?
18:08Well, I created an exhibition that opened on Friday last week in Tokyo,
18:16where I built this installation between us.
18:20I saw my wife and my daughter in the procession.
18:24Hey!
18:25It's me!
18:31Where are you going?
18:33Wait!
18:34Wait!
18:35Wait!
18:36Wait!
18:37Wait!
18:38Wait!
18:39Don't live without me!
18:42No!
18:43Don't go!
18:44Please!
18:45Don't go!
18:46Please!
18:47Don't go!
18:49And you are in Death Stranding 2.
18:51I am Heart Man, and Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
18:55Je pense qu'on ne croise pas tout ce que tu as lèves sur le internet.
19:04Ok, tu peux nous dire quelque chose?
19:06Non, croise tout ce que tu as lèves sur le internet.