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  • 7/8/2025

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00:00Eli, polls in Israel indicate that two-thirds of Israelis support a ceasefire deal with Hamas
00:06and to bring the hostages home. Netanyahu has not fulfilled his aims eradicating Hamas
00:14and bringing the hostages home. Is President Trump growing frustrated with Netanyahu's
00:20bombardment of Palestine but not actually reaching the goals he set out?
00:25Well, you know, it's interesting, Leanne, what you just pointed to is actually I think
00:32the challenge for the Israelis is that those two goals are sometimes at odds with each other,
00:38meaning that defeating Hamas, and look, the Israelis have already defeated Hamas militarily,
00:45but really I think eliminating them in the Gaza Strip as a presence. That goal is in some ways
00:53in direct conflict with freeing the hostages because whatever is left of Hamas leadership
00:59right now, they are holding the last 20 living Israeli hostages apparently scattered throughout
01:05the Gaza Strip, making it incredibly difficult for Israel to be aggressive and probably achieve
01:13a full-on victory in the way that they clearly can, and they demonstrated with the war in Iran
01:18because Hamas is hanging on to these living hostages, and the Israelis, of course, don't
01:24want to be responsible for killing their own.

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