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00:00:00Previously...
00:00:02We've been intimate.
00:00:04It was a loved-up commitment ceremony.
00:00:08He's someone that I do have love for.
00:00:11That's Marina. It was so beautiful. We've had a good time.
00:00:15But not everyone was embracing the romance.
00:00:18It's really lovely to hear that.
00:00:21But I don't feel it.
00:00:24Oh my God.
00:00:26Stay.
00:00:28Adrian was put on notice.
00:00:31Sorry, leave.
00:00:32Giving him just one week to turn his marriage around.
00:00:36It's on your shoulders to really do some big time lifting.
00:00:40And when Veronica caught up with Lauren...
00:00:43Elliot is a narcissist. He has literally no depth.
00:00:46The ex-wife did not hold back, voicing her opinion on Elliot.
00:00:51I feel so sorry for you. You can do a million times better.
00:00:54Run!
00:00:55And then...
00:00:56Hi guys!
00:00:57Friends and Family Week saw most of our couple's loved ones give positive feedback.
00:01:03Eyes tell everything.
00:01:05All any parent ever wants is for their child to be happy.
00:01:08He hasn't been in a relationship for a while.
00:01:10So you need to give him a little kick up the arse.
00:01:12Say, where's my compliments today?
00:01:13They are not good enough to be in your life.
00:01:15He is definitely not good enough to be in my nephew's life.
00:01:17But Athena and Adrian's lunch with their loved ones...
00:01:21How dare you!
00:01:22He has not even shown up.
00:01:23Not even once.
00:01:25...descended into chaos.
00:01:27I'm just...
00:01:28I don't need to listen to this.
00:01:29Goodbye.
00:01:30I'm done.
00:01:31Make sure you leave the apartment.
00:01:33How can we do it?
00:01:34How can we do it?
00:01:35Tonight...
00:01:37Friends and Family Week continues.
00:01:39We can see the way Karina looks at you.
00:01:42Yes.
00:01:43You look happy.
00:01:44You really do.
00:01:45You can tell the chemistry is definitely there.
00:01:48And I do see a future.
00:01:50The new beginnings of family.
00:01:51Yes.
00:01:52You are being unreasonable and I will not tolerate it.
00:01:55What causes Veronica to lash out at Elliot...
00:01:58Do not raise your voice at me.
00:02:00I've had enough.
00:02:01This is so civil.
00:02:02I've had enough.
00:02:03Emotions reach breaking point as they navigate the first week of married life.
00:02:13And in an unexpected turn of events, which couple will announce their exciting baby news?
00:02:22Dish.
00:02:23Dish.
00:02:24Dish.
00:02:25Dish.
00:02:26Dish.
00:02:27Dish.
00:02:28Dish.
00:02:29Dish.
00:02:30Dish.
00:02:31Dish.
00:02:32Dish.
00:02:33Dish.
00:02:34Dish.
00:02:35Dish.
00:02:36Dish.
00:02:37Dish.
00:02:38Dish.
00:02:39Dish.
00:02:40Dish.
00:02:41No.
00:02:42I'm not...
00:02:43I'm really not okay.
00:02:44I actually have brought up my son a few times just randomly here and there.
00:02:46You don't know how to?
00:02:47And that actually is true.
00:02:48Dish.
00:02:49Dish.
00:02:50Well, actually, of course she did.
00:02:51She's a fantastic mother.
00:02:53So how about we lose that attitude about her being a mother?
00:02:55You're the only one there.
00:02:56No, I did not appreciate that at all.
00:02:58When did I say you weren't?
00:02:59The fact that you just snided, she's the best fricking mum there is.
00:03:02How dare you?
00:03:03How dare you?
00:03:05You deserve more than this.
00:03:06Actually, I don't need to listen to this shit.
00:03:09It's a pointless conversation.
00:03:10It is.
00:03:10It really is.
00:03:12I'll come outside anyway.
00:03:13Good.
00:03:13Make sure you leave the apartment.
00:03:16I'm not even arguing you talking.
00:03:20Adrian didn't have to mean a single thing what he said.
00:03:27He literally just said stay because he wants to re-control the narrative
00:03:32and pretend that he's stepping up.
00:03:34But in reality, if he wants to tell everyone how bad I am,
00:03:38I don't know what I've done so wrong to the man.
00:03:41He came in here.
00:03:50They came in here with an agenda.
00:03:52I texted my twin saying, go easy on Adrian.
00:03:57He's told them, have at her.
00:03:59I know how I feel inside.
00:04:02I feel hurt.
00:04:04And I can see in Adrian's eyes, he's not hurt at all.
00:04:07There's no hurt in him.
00:04:12I get that obviously emotions are high on both sides, but...
00:04:14But no one was attacking me.
00:04:15We were simply asking the questions, which is what we were brought here for.
00:04:19Had Cleo not been there, I think that conversation could have been a little bit different.
00:04:21In my understanding, but obviously it was just for her sister.
00:04:26Cleo was just way too in the wrong.
00:04:28And obviously I'm emotional right now, and I'm upset too.
00:04:32But I've genuinely done nothing wrong.
00:04:36And I don't think a friend is going to see what her and her sister have done wrong.
00:04:39I genuinely don't.
00:04:41That was just f***ing draining.
00:04:43Yeah, I actually feel drained.
00:04:44Oh, f***ing hell.
00:04:45Can I go home now?
00:04:46Yeah.
00:04:46Yes, you do.
00:04:47Oh, it's just too much.
00:04:50Can we get you a stop?
00:04:51Yeah.
00:04:52And leave?
00:04:53Yeah.
00:04:54Yeah.
00:04:55Yeah, absolutely.
00:04:58I'm done.
00:05:07Did you travel back here alone?
00:05:09Yeah, I travelled back alone, because I would gladly never be in Adrian's presence again.
00:05:13Had he just come in and actually started doing the things he said, today would have looked
00:05:25a lot different.
00:05:32Yo, what's happened?
00:05:39Never anything to say?
00:05:40Not really.
00:05:42Nothing?
00:05:42I think today speaks volumes.
00:05:44Why would I want to say anything?
00:05:46I don't think you do either.
00:05:47Speaks volumes about who?
00:05:49You.
00:05:49Me?
00:05:50Yeah.
00:05:50Or your sister?
00:05:52Don't even try bringing my sister into this.
00:05:54You might treat me like shit, talk about her once, and I'll come at you.
00:06:02You're treating me like shit?
00:06:03You have been this whole time.
00:06:05How did I treat you like shit today?
00:06:07How did I treat you like shit today?
00:06:08Mm-hmm.
00:06:09I'm asking.
00:06:11Adrian, your family came in on attack mode for me.
00:06:14It could have gone very differently.
00:06:16We could have all just sat there and had to defend me.
00:06:19That's what she did.
00:06:19She defended me.
00:06:22Today could have looked very different.
00:06:24I'm actually quite embarrassed.
00:06:25No, I'm not.
00:06:26I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:27I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:30My twin sister's beautiful and amazing person, and she's stuck up to me.
00:06:33No, I said she's not.
00:06:33No, honestly, I don't even care.
00:06:35Don't even.
00:06:36You're embarrassed for my twin?
00:06:37Well, I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:38Leave.
00:06:38I have no reason to get embarrassed.
00:06:40Cool.
00:06:40I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:41You should be embarrassed.
00:06:41I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:42I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:44I hope you sister.
00:06:44I'm embarrassed for you.
00:06:45Guess what, mate?
00:06:46I don't have to listen to you anymore.
00:06:47How old are you again?
00:06:48Blah, blah, blah.
00:06:49You know what?
00:06:49I don't care.
00:06:50How old are you?
00:06:50I really don't, Adrian.
00:06:51How old is your sister?
00:06:53How old are you, mate?
00:06:53How old is your sister?
00:06:54I'm just asking how old is your sister.
00:06:55How old are you, mate?
00:06:56How old are you, mate?
00:06:57How old are you, mate?
00:06:58I don't have to listen to you anymore.
00:06:59I've listened to you this whole time, and to be honest, I don't need to anymore.
00:07:05Leave.
00:07:06Bye.
00:07:07Don't ever come back.
00:07:09See ya.
00:07:10Yeah, right now, like, I feel just so off of her and her sister.
00:07:22Clearly, she cannot see where her sister went wrong.
00:07:26Just like I thought.
00:07:29A lot of the time, I've taken accountability for my actions, and I've said sorry and made
00:07:32mistakes, and, you know, I stuck by that.
00:07:34And I'm hand up and said when I was wrong.
00:07:39And this time, I'm absolutely not even wrong, nor is my family.
00:07:45And, um, yeah, now we'll see if she's going to own up to her sister's actions.
00:07:59As this year's Meet the Family Week approaches the halfway point,
00:08:03our couples who have already met with their loved ones are feeling closer than ever.
00:08:09Do you think I passed the test with the family?
00:08:10I definitely think you did.
00:08:11Not that there was a test, but you know what I mean.
00:08:13You did really well.
00:08:14I'm genuinely, like, as happy as I've been in a long time, so...
00:08:18So nice.
00:08:19As it's given their relationships a new sense of confidence.
00:08:25I only want the best for you, and I want the best for me.
00:08:28We had a fantastic day yesterday.
00:08:30It was so good.
00:08:30And we added more things to the shrine as well.
00:08:32Yeah, I just want you to know that supporting each other is...
00:08:35Do you want to dance?
00:08:36...means a lot to me.
00:08:37Do you want to dance?
00:08:38Do I want to dance now?
00:08:39Yeah.
00:08:40I'd rather play chess.
00:08:42No, you're going to dance for me.
00:08:44You ready?
00:08:45Yeah.
00:08:49See?
00:08:50Haven't failed once since the wedding.
00:08:51While Jackie and Ryan continue basking in the afterglow of their meet-the-family's success,
00:08:58our remaining couples get ready for their turn.
00:09:01Your day today, mate, aren't you?
00:09:03Yes.
00:09:05Line's the top one, mate.
00:09:06You can have the whole thing, Tony.
00:09:08Can't eat that, huh?
00:09:09It's all your...
00:09:10I can eat it, but I normally don't like eating it when someone's double-dipped.
00:09:15Meeting each other's family and friends is an important relationship milestone for any
00:09:20new couple.
00:09:21I, like, hardly slept because I was excited.
00:09:24I'm really eager to kind of show off, I guess, how happy we're trotting along.
00:09:29No, no.
00:09:30Yeah.
00:09:30How good we look together and, you know.
00:09:34Not only is this an opportunity to connect, seek advice and support, it's also an opportunity
00:09:39to turn their minds to life outside of the experiment and consider whether they have
00:09:44a viable long-term future together.
00:09:47Family friends, are you excited?
00:09:49Yeah, 100%.
00:09:50Are you going to see if our lives are going to be compatible beyond this experiment?
00:09:55Yeah, that's one of the next big steps.
00:10:01Next to meet their loved ones are Karina and Paul.
00:10:06Hi!
00:10:10Who are meeting Paul's good friend, Johnny, and sister, Anna, who was unable to attend the
00:10:16wedding.
00:10:17I really wanted to have my sister at my wedding, but sadly, she didn't.
00:10:20She couldn't make it.
00:10:21So, having her here today and the fact that she was able to meet Karina for the first
00:10:24time, honestly, it was just so special, you know.
00:10:29As well as Karina's sister, Marie, and Auntie Maria.
00:10:34Is he as good-looking as you two?
00:10:38Even better.
00:10:39As soon as I saw him, oh, I thought he was quite hot, actually.
00:10:48I shouldn't be saying that.
00:10:49I'm the auntie.
00:10:49Can we get some napkins, please?
00:10:51You've just mucked up our make-up.
00:10:54I'm hoping to find out quite a bit today.
00:10:56I want to see if they're happy.
00:10:57If Paul is in it for the long haul, maybe ask him a few little private questions and personal
00:11:06questions.
00:11:08You know, he's French.
00:11:09I want to know how good he is.
00:11:11Yeah, it's just so nice to all be together.
00:11:16Yeah, it is nice.
00:11:17We have so many questions for you guys.
00:11:19Oh, gosh, let's get the list out.
00:11:23So, how are you honestly finding it all?
00:11:26You know, we've had each other's back from the beginning and it's been amazing.
00:11:30We have.
00:11:31We've been a team.
00:11:32Yeah, we have been a team.
00:11:33We've been a very good team.
00:11:34Because it's not easy.
00:11:36It's definitely not easy.
00:11:37Even, like, this morning, I was like, we're a team.
00:11:40Good.
00:11:40I love that.
00:11:42That is great.
00:11:44The foundation of a good relationship and marriage is friendship.
00:11:49And then everything else will follow for you.
00:11:51You've got to have each other's back and open, honest, trust.
00:11:57We can see the way Karina looks at you.
00:11:59Yes.
00:12:00You look happy.
00:12:02You really do.
00:12:03First impression, Karina, she seems lovely and genuine.
00:12:08And so far, I've heard all good things from Paul.
00:12:11And he's been really happy.
00:12:13And from what I can see, it seems like they're still heading in the right direction,
00:12:17which was really nice to see.
00:12:19Is there any other questions that anyone really wanted to know?
00:12:23Oh, yeah.
00:12:24Zim, we're going to have this one.
00:12:27We might need some more drinks before this Zim, Ria.
00:12:30Paul's looking down at the table there.
00:12:32So, um, obviously, you sleep together.
00:12:39Jesus.
00:12:40That's just too much.
00:12:42Yeah?
00:12:42Oh, yeah.
00:12:45Keep it PG.
00:12:46Nieces and nephews and kids are watching.
00:12:49I don't know if I want to hear.
00:12:51No, no, no, my sister's here.
00:12:52I'm like, what are they?
00:12:54Just...
00:12:54Okay, just answer the question.
00:12:57Yes, we've been intimate.
00:12:59The sex life is good.
00:13:00Oh, my God.
00:13:03I was like, Zim, Ria.
00:13:05I don't know.
00:13:06Oh, my God.
00:13:08The French, you know, the French are pretty good.
00:13:11Oh, my God.
00:13:12We can't complain about that.
00:13:14It's been really nice.
00:13:16It's perfect.
00:13:17Oh, that's good.
00:13:18Oh, that's good.
00:13:18Now he's blushing.
00:13:21Look, our relationship did make me blush a little bit.
00:13:23I was like...
00:13:24But, yeah, I reckon I've put her worries to rest.
00:13:27Yeah, I think she knows that Corinna and I are having good sex.
00:13:30So, yeah, I think she's...
00:13:31I think she's...
00:13:32I think she's at peace now.
00:13:34I like how you like to find out all the details.
00:13:36There's no secrets there.
00:13:38Zim, Ria wants the gasp.
00:13:40He wants the juice.
00:13:41You can tell the chemistry is definitely there,
00:13:46which was beautiful to see.
00:13:48And I do see a future, yes.
00:13:51Cheers, guys.
00:13:52Cheers.
00:13:53The new beginnings of family.
00:13:54Yes.
00:13:55Chin, chin.
00:13:56The sex life.
00:14:00Oh, jeepers.
00:14:01Now it's just too much.
00:14:06Coming up,
00:14:07I didn't feel like I learnt anything about you.
00:14:10Crash Course Week unexpectedly implodes one couple.
00:14:14Well, maybe that's to do with your ability to listen.
00:14:33Our three newest couples have been spending this week
00:14:36participating in the Crash Course,
00:14:39which has been designed to fast-track their relationships
00:14:42to catch up with the original couples.
00:14:46I've had so much of this kick out.
00:14:48You have to have some.
00:14:50I can't be just eating it all on my own.
00:14:53However,
00:14:54Veronica is still struggling
00:14:55with some concerns about her husband, Elliot,
00:14:59after speaking with his ex-wife, Lauren.
00:15:02One of my friends was in a relationship
00:15:03with a narcissist for, like, 10 years.
00:15:05And what I have learnt from her
00:15:08is that, like, they don't actually have real feelings.
00:15:10So I do feel like Elliot is a narcissist.
00:15:15Yeah, OK.
00:15:17And the first Crash Course task
00:15:18didn't give the insight into Elliot
00:15:20that Veronica was hoping for.
00:15:23I don't find her really that physically attractive.
00:15:26Not attractive, not attractive, not attractive.
00:15:27Physically speaking, not really attracted to her.
00:15:31Of course.
00:15:33I don't really feel like I learnt anything.
00:15:38Oh.
00:15:39Who's that?
00:15:40My destiny awaits.
00:15:43So the next task,
00:15:44the Confessions Letter,
00:15:46could be exactly what Veronica is needing
00:15:49to get a deeper understanding of Elliot.
00:15:52Opening up to others
00:15:53and revealing our true selves is never easy.
00:15:55By opening yourself up to your significant other,
00:16:00you become more vulnerable
00:16:01and you create an opportunity for a greater connection.
00:16:04For this task,
00:16:06you must write a letter to your partner
00:16:07revealing your most significant relationship
00:16:09or life experience.
00:16:12So be brave and let your partner in.
00:16:16Mm, a letter.
00:16:18Panic sets in across the room.
00:16:20I like the sound of that.
00:16:23Great.
00:16:23Finally.
00:16:25Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:16:30I feel like Veronica wants more vulnerability
00:16:33and I've never been someone that's, like,
00:16:37overly emotional or vulnerable,
00:16:40but I definitely have willingness to be open 100%.
00:16:45Um, so I want to do my best to, you know,
00:16:51open up and be vulnerable.
00:16:57Uh, it's, uh, yeah,
00:17:00it's a story I've never shared with anybody else.
00:17:03It would have had to be, like,
00:17:04one of my most deep and harrowing memories that I have
00:17:09and something that, like, had affected me so much in my childhood
00:17:12and it's deeply personal.
00:17:16I wrote it like a proper letter.
00:17:18Aw.
00:17:18Dear Veronica,
00:17:20I do want to preface this story by saying
00:17:24this is something I've never shared with anyone before.
00:17:28The story goes back to when I was nine years old.
00:17:32I'm sitting in a specialist office in a hospital.
00:17:34My mum beside me
00:17:35and my younger sister, Bridie,
00:17:37had been experiencing some unusual symptoms
00:17:40and was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes
00:17:44and she fell into a coma.
00:17:50The news hit us like a ton of bricks.
00:17:53My mum burst into tears,
00:17:55which inevitably led to me joining her
00:17:57in a choir of uncontrollable sobbing.
00:18:03It felt like it was the end of the world.
00:18:07There was no hope.
00:18:10This continued for what seemed like forever
00:18:12until suddenly the door burst open
00:18:15and it was my dad.
00:18:17I'll never forget his reaction to the situation.
00:18:20He immediately comforted her.
00:18:22He engaged with the doctor about the treatment
00:18:25and in that moment,
00:18:27my dad's strength and stoicism
00:18:29set us on a path forward.
00:18:32The impact this memory has on me
00:18:35is I never want to be overwhelmed by emotion.
00:18:38Like anyone, I feel things.
00:18:41I just do my best to identify and understand it
00:18:44rather than be controlled by it.
00:18:48I feel like this is relevant to you
00:18:51and to our relationship in this experiment
00:18:53and why I may appear guarded sometimes.
00:18:58Yours sincerely, Elliot.
00:18:59Thank you for sharing.
00:19:05That was very nice.
00:19:13What is this?
00:19:16Why are your hands on your head?
00:19:19Are you there?
00:19:20This was the perfect opportunity for him
00:19:23to just tell me something, anything.
00:19:27And he chose nothing.
00:19:31Like, yeah.
00:19:32I know that his mum cried,
00:19:38that his sister has diabetes
00:19:39and that his dad is a stoic, emotionless man.
00:19:44I just don't think that he has the capacity
00:19:46to even look at himself
00:19:49or think about his life
00:19:50in a way that's more than just a surface level.
00:19:53Like, he just cannot find it within him
00:19:56to give me anything more.
00:19:58Like, this is the second task
00:20:00now that we've been given
00:20:01that he has been completely unwilling
00:20:03to participate in.
00:20:04And I'm just like,
00:20:06I don't know what to do.
00:20:08Oh.
00:20:12Yeah.
00:20:14Anyway.
00:20:27Having been a few hours
00:20:29since sharing his confessions letter,
00:20:32Elliot has noticed a shift in attitude
00:20:34from wife Veronica.
00:20:37What are you going to have for dinner?
00:20:39I don't know.
00:20:40Do you want me to cook your steak?
00:20:42No, I'm OK, thank you.
00:20:44OK.
00:20:47After the confessions letter,
00:20:49I noticed a tenseness
00:20:51in the air from Veronica.
00:20:53I feel like I was opening up to her,
00:20:59pouring my heart out,
00:21:01but it wasn't really any kind of engagement.
00:21:04I want to speak to her
00:21:06and see what's going on with her.
00:21:13How are you feeling?
00:21:15Yeah, I'm OK.
00:21:17I'm all right.
00:21:18You seem kind of distracted.
00:21:19Yeah, I just guess I...
00:21:23I just thought
00:21:25that it was going to be different.
00:21:28OK.
00:21:29How so?
00:21:31Like, I...
00:21:32Like, I thought
00:21:33it might be about you.
00:21:37What we discussed
00:21:39or what you might share
00:21:40might be about you.
00:21:44I don't know.
00:21:46So you're saying
00:21:47that that memory wasn't
00:21:48about me.
00:21:50Yeah.
00:21:52Really?
00:21:53Yeah.
00:21:56Um...
00:21:56The story's about
00:21:59something traumatic
00:21:59that happened to someone else.
00:22:02And I don't know how you felt.
00:22:04I don't know how it's impacted you.
00:22:06I don't know...
00:22:08You didn't talk about
00:22:09your own feelings
00:22:10about the event.
00:22:11I said it super clearly.
00:22:17Like, I said
00:22:18exactly how I felt
00:22:20like in the moment.
00:22:20How did you feel?
00:22:21Like, I said it in there.
00:22:23Like, I felt like
00:22:23it was the end of the world.
00:22:26All you've said is
00:22:27the world was ending.
00:22:30Like, it felt to me
00:22:31like the world was ending.
00:22:33Yeah, I think...
00:22:33Is there an emotion
00:22:33attached to that?
00:22:36That's not an emotion.
00:22:37It's an event.
00:22:38I said...
00:22:39I said to you
00:22:41when you asked me...
00:22:41How does it make you feel?
00:22:43Hopeless.
00:22:43That was...
00:22:44That was the emotion.
00:22:45Is that all?
00:22:46I don't feel
00:22:47any deeper understanding
00:22:48of Elliot.
00:22:51I'm not...
00:22:52I'm just being honest.
00:22:53Yeah.
00:22:53That's how...
00:22:54That's how I'm responding
00:22:56to what you told me.
00:22:57All you've said is
00:23:13the world was ending.
00:23:16Like, it felt to me
00:23:17like the world was ending.
00:23:18Yeah, I think...
00:23:18Is there an emotion
00:23:18attached to that?
00:23:21That's not an emotion.
00:23:22It's an event.
00:23:24I said...
00:23:25I said to you...
00:23:26How does it make you feel?
00:23:28Hopeless.
00:23:29That was...
00:23:29That was the emotion.
00:23:30Is that all?
00:23:32I don't feel
00:23:33any deeper understanding
00:23:34of Elliot.
00:23:38I'm just being honest.
00:23:40Yeah.
00:23:40That's how...
00:23:40That's how I'm responding
00:23:42to what you told me.
00:23:46I've just shared something
00:23:47that's, like,
00:23:48deeply personal to me
00:23:49that had a huge impact
00:23:51on my life.
00:23:52And you're taking that
00:23:53and saying,
00:23:54that's not enough for me.
00:23:55That's...
00:23:55So, like,
00:23:56for me to...
00:23:58I'm just telling you
00:23:59how I feel.
00:24:00Me being vulnerable
00:24:02and you're saying,
00:24:03that's not enough for me,
00:24:04that's not enough for me.
00:24:06I'm allowed to feel
00:24:07how I feel about it
00:24:09and I'm expressing that to you.
00:24:11I'm not interested
00:24:12in having an argument about it.
00:24:14I'm just telling you
00:24:15that I don't have
00:24:16any further insight
00:24:17into Elliot
00:24:17and I'm disappointed by that.
00:24:20The task was a way
00:24:21for us to be vulnerable
00:24:22to each other.
00:24:23Now, for me to
00:24:25be vulnerable to you
00:24:26and then you to turn around
00:24:27and say,
00:24:28that's not enough for me?
00:24:30Like,
00:24:31how do you think that looks?
00:24:32I didn't say,
00:24:32that's not enough for me.
00:24:34I said that I didn't feel
00:24:36like I learnt anything
00:24:37about you.
00:24:38You said,
00:24:39if that's all
00:24:40you have to give...
00:24:41Elliot, can't you just
00:24:42look at what
00:24:43I'm trying to say
00:24:44to you, please?
00:24:45I'm trying to say
00:24:46that I feel like
00:24:47I don't...
00:24:48I didn't learn
00:24:49anything about you.
00:24:50Don't you want me
00:24:50to understand you?
00:24:51Yes, I do.
00:24:52Okay, but then
00:24:53why are you helping me
00:24:54with that?
00:24:55You coming in here
00:24:56saying I'm disappointed.
00:24:57Again, again.
00:24:59You're just like
00:25:00a broken record
00:25:01saying the same thing
00:25:02over and over again.
00:25:03Yes, but...
00:25:04I'm not interested
00:25:05in having a boring,
00:25:06repetitious argument
00:25:06with you.
00:25:07We can have a conversation
00:25:08if you're willing
00:25:09to give me something new,
00:25:10but otherwise,
00:25:11I'm not interested
00:25:11in fighting with you
00:25:12over this.
00:25:14You are not listening
00:25:15to what I'm saying
00:25:16and so therefore
00:25:17this conversation's over.
00:25:18I'm done.
00:25:18I'm done.
00:25:19I'm done.
00:25:20I'm done.
00:25:29She was trying
00:25:30to make it about
00:25:31like, oh,
00:25:33that wasn't about you.
00:25:34It was about somebody else.
00:25:35For me,
00:25:37it was so much worse
00:25:39that it was my sister.
00:25:41If it was me,
00:25:42I probably...
00:25:44It probably wouldn't
00:25:45have affected me as much.
00:25:46It was the fact that
00:25:47like, that was my
00:25:49younger sister,
00:25:49my baby sister.
00:25:51For her to just like,
00:25:52be like, oh,
00:25:53that's not enough.
00:25:53Like, I wanted more.
00:25:56It felt kind of surreal.
00:26:02You going?
00:26:05What's it look like?
00:26:08I'm asking.
00:26:08Okay.
00:26:09Do you want to tell me
00:26:31what's going on?
00:26:33Well, you were here
00:26:33just a minute ago.
00:26:34Why do I need to
00:26:35explain everything to you?
00:26:36You're not a child.
00:26:38Well, you...
00:26:38Like, you were literally
00:26:39just here.
00:26:40You cryptically said...
00:26:41Like, what is confusing
00:26:42for you?
00:26:42What are you confused about?
00:26:44I'll tell you
00:26:44if you let me
00:26:45get a word in.
00:26:47Why do you think
00:26:48that I'm upset?
00:26:50I don't want to play
00:26:50guessing games.
00:26:51Tell me.
00:26:52I'm asking you
00:26:53a question, Elliot.
00:26:54Yeah.
00:26:54Why do you think
00:26:55that I'm upset?
00:26:57I would love to know.
00:26:58Please inform me.
00:27:01You cannot understand
00:27:03what...
00:27:04That...
00:27:04The whole point
00:27:05of what I said
00:27:06to you tonight.
00:27:07I don't feel like
00:27:08I learnt anything
00:27:08about you.
00:27:12I...
00:27:12I would love to know
00:27:14why my most painful memory
00:27:17isn't enough for you.
00:27:20To think that I would
00:27:21pour my heart out.
00:27:22You poured your heart out.
00:27:23Did you?
00:27:24Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:24Okay.
00:27:25And you...
00:27:26You poured your heart out.
00:27:27Yeah.
00:27:29Me pouring my heart out
00:27:31is me pouring my heart out.
00:27:33I didn't feel like
00:27:34I learnt anything about you.
00:27:36Well, maybe that's to do
00:27:37with your ability
00:27:38to listen
00:27:40and to try to take on
00:27:42what I'm saying.
00:27:43Part of this experiment,
00:27:45right,
00:27:45is us being able
00:27:47to empathise
00:27:48with the other person
00:27:49and say, right,
00:27:50that in their world,
00:27:52that is their
00:27:53really, you know,
00:27:55being vulnerable.
00:27:58Oh, my God.
00:27:58And it's like,
00:27:59oh, this isn't enough.
00:28:00That's not good enough.
00:28:01Is that how I responded to you?
00:28:03Yes.
00:28:04When we sat on the couch,
00:28:05that's how I responded to you.
00:28:07Well, you didn't respond at all.
00:28:08I didn't, though.
00:28:09Like,
00:28:10it's...
00:28:10It's shocking.
00:28:13Listen.
00:28:13No!
00:28:14This is what happened.
00:28:14It's hard to believe
00:28:24that that just happened.
00:28:27Thank you very much.
00:28:28Thank you very much.
00:28:30I just couldn't imagine
00:28:31diminishing
00:28:32what is important to someone
00:28:34in the way she just did.
00:28:36Coming up...
00:28:45You're good?
00:28:48Great.
00:28:49Tony has a surprising revelation.
00:28:52That's pretty new information
00:28:53about you.
00:28:56It's taken me a while
00:28:58to think about it.
00:28:59Like, to register
00:29:00in my head
00:29:00what I really, really want.
00:29:02All this is coming together for me.
00:29:11As Meet the Family Week continues,
00:29:14next to meet with their loved ones
00:29:16are Jamie and Dave.
00:29:18It's awesome to see us.
00:29:19It's nice to see you too, mate.
00:29:21Joining them today
00:29:22are Dave's mum, Brenda,
00:29:23and his best mate, Steve.
00:29:26And Jamie's mum, Vicky,
00:29:27dad, Michael,
00:29:29sister, Georgia,
00:29:30and aunt, Lenny.
00:29:32I was like, overall,
00:29:34like, you guys are happy.
00:29:35Yeah, no, we are.
00:29:36We are.
00:29:36Because we've been so honest
00:29:38and really dug deep
00:29:39and really had the hard conversations
00:29:42that sort of make these experiments
00:29:44so much easier.
00:29:46It was us putting in all the work
00:29:48and getting to know each other
00:29:49and finding out the core values,
00:29:51and I think that's what built everything.
00:29:55One of my main things
00:29:56was I wanted someone
00:29:57to make me feel heard and seen.
00:29:59And Jamie does that.
00:30:01It makes my soul smile.
00:30:05Nick's got a little bit emotional, I think.
00:30:08I must admit,
00:30:09it's come from Redfield.
00:30:12There was an effectiveness.
00:30:14Actually, shorter words,
00:30:15I think the words,
00:30:16I didn't anticipate
00:30:17hearing what I heard today.
00:30:20Jamie being my daughter,
00:30:22as long as she's happy,
00:30:23you've won me over.
00:30:24With Jamie and Dave feeling confident
00:30:30in their family's approval,
00:30:33Morena and Tony are hoping
00:30:34that their friends and family meet
00:30:36will bring back the positivity
00:30:38they once shared in their relationship.
00:30:40It's nice.
00:30:43So excited to be seeing them.
00:30:45Should be a good catch-up.
00:30:49You haven't seen your friends for a while,
00:30:50so it'll be nice.
00:30:51No, I haven't.
00:30:54It's been a long time.
00:30:56Last time Morena and Tony
00:30:58saw their friends
00:30:59was at their wedding,
00:31:01where the couple
00:31:01immediately hit it off.
00:31:05Wow.
00:31:06He's gorgeous.
00:31:09That's my wife, man.
00:31:11That's the woman
00:31:13that I'm just about to marry.
00:31:14Can we say how bow is now
00:31:16because I'm excited
00:31:17to marry this lady?
00:31:20Since then,
00:31:21the couple have had many ups and downs
00:31:23throughout the experiment.
00:31:25Just be a gentleman.
00:31:26Stop headlocking me.
00:31:27Stop fist-pumping me.
00:31:30All right, I'll stop.
00:31:31I will stop.
00:31:31I will stop.
00:31:32I will stop.
00:31:33I will stop.
00:31:33But after an apology from Tony...
00:31:36Sorry.
00:31:37..and some encouraging words
00:31:39from the experts...
00:31:40This is not friends at first sight.
00:31:43So there needs to be progress.
00:31:46The couple are hoping
00:31:47their friends can offer
00:31:49a fresh perspective
00:31:50on their relationship.
00:31:53Today, Morena and Tony
00:31:55will be meeting
00:31:55with Tony's friends
00:31:57Danny and Georgia
00:31:58and Morena's friends
00:32:01Mick and Joe
00:32:02who were all at the wedding
00:32:06to witness what looked like
00:32:07a very promising beginning
00:32:09for the couple.
00:32:10Tony, Morena's wedding day?
00:32:13Great day.
00:32:13Hello.
00:32:14Tony's lots of fun
00:32:15and he's a great character
00:32:17and I think he's got
00:32:18a zest for life
00:32:19so I think it'll be
00:32:19really interesting
00:32:20to make sure
00:32:21that that's translated
00:32:22to Morena
00:32:22and make sure
00:32:23that she's enjoying
00:32:24that as much as we do.
00:32:26Here is to the most
00:32:27unusual experiment
00:32:28I have ever partaked in
00:32:32with a random stranger.
00:32:35Honestly, all of you.
00:32:38Thank you for being here.
00:32:39Ladies, thank you for coming.
00:32:39I wouldn't have it any other way.
00:32:41How are you going?
00:32:44Everything is good.
00:32:45How are you doing, Morena?
00:32:48Good?
00:32:50No.
00:32:52It's really tough.
00:32:55Well, if you put yourself
00:32:56in my shoes,
00:32:57you kind of go,
00:32:59oh, you meant to bond.
00:33:02So, yeah, there's none of that.
00:33:04He's got a rug
00:33:05and he wants to shove
00:33:07everything under the rug.
00:33:08I do not want to talk.
00:33:09I do not want to talk
00:33:10about issues
00:33:12that really bother me
00:33:13and I do.
00:33:15I'm not here to attack him.
00:33:18I'm so honest
00:33:19with my feelings
00:33:19and, Tony,
00:33:21you don't realise
00:33:23how much you hurt me.
00:33:30You just don't get it.
00:33:31I do get it.
00:33:35Morena, she's, um...
00:33:37She's not herself.
00:33:38She's not herself.
00:33:40It's heartbreaking to us.
00:33:42It's heartbreaking
00:33:43because I was there
00:33:44at the ceremony.
00:33:46Everything was terrific.
00:33:48But, yeah, something's changed.
00:33:50We need to just ask
00:33:51a question, please.
00:33:54Go ahead.
00:33:55What changed?
00:33:56Like, to me,
00:33:58it seems like
00:33:58from I like what I see,
00:34:01this is a beautiful moment,
00:34:03to a total switch.
00:34:07Has there been a switch?
00:34:08Yes?
00:34:13I'll tell you the switch.
00:34:16You've seen Morena every day.
00:34:18Can you explain to me
00:34:19Morena's personality?
00:34:20How is she?
00:34:21Is she a happy person?
00:34:22I want to know
00:34:23what she's like towards you.
00:34:24She's a frickin' knockout.
00:34:27She walks in a room.
00:34:29Stop.
00:34:30People stop.
00:34:31And they just look at her.
00:34:32I'm looking for that Morena.
00:34:33You're telling me
00:34:34she's this beautiful,
00:34:34vibrant person.
00:34:35But if you haven't,
00:34:36Tony,
00:34:37if you haven't connected,
00:34:39that hurts her.
00:34:41Correct.
00:34:42So it's a vicious cycle.
00:34:43You have no idea
00:34:44the woman that she really is.
00:34:46I'm sorry, mate.
00:34:48He goes away
00:34:49every weekend
00:34:49to Wollongong
00:34:50and I walk
00:34:51the streets of Sydney
00:34:52on my own.
00:34:54So that's really hard.
00:34:55Yeah.
00:34:56I cried
00:34:56and I cried
00:34:58and I cried
00:34:59in the streets of Sydney.
00:35:00That's not,
00:35:01that's not okay
00:35:02to do that to a person
00:35:03who is grounded,
00:35:05driven.
00:35:05I have worked
00:35:06seven years
00:35:07to fix myself.
00:35:08I didn't come
00:35:09on this experiment
00:35:10to go backwards.
00:35:14Why wouldn't you
00:35:15take her with you?
00:35:17Because I like
00:35:18to have my time.
00:35:19I like Tony time.
00:35:20on weekends
00:35:21or when I can get a chance.
00:35:22That's just so cruel.
00:35:25Everybody has
00:35:25their natural ways
00:35:26to decompress.
00:35:27Like you recharge
00:35:28by spending time
00:35:28with people.
00:35:29There are other people
00:35:30in the world
00:35:30that just need
00:35:31to recharge themselves.
00:35:33You want your own time.
00:35:34You can't be
00:35:35in a relationship.
00:35:38I feel,
00:35:38can I be honest guys,
00:35:39I feel like
00:35:40is it ever going to get
00:35:41to a point
00:35:41where you can sort through
00:35:42and actually live
00:35:43in the moment,
00:35:44live right now?
00:35:45This is what I'm
00:35:45looking for, Georgia.
00:35:46Tony's a very charismatic,
00:35:53happy-go-lucky
00:35:54type of guy
00:35:55and Morena's
00:35:56such a big character
00:35:57and a beautiful character
00:35:58but at the same time
00:35:59from my perspective,
00:36:01she's just stuck
00:36:01focusing on negative situations
00:36:03rather than actually
00:36:04moving forward.
00:36:05I disliked the fact
00:36:06that you're not
00:36:08honest with me.
00:36:09She just needs
00:36:10to let go
00:36:10and enjoy the moment
00:36:11because the more
00:36:12negatives,
00:36:13the more Tony's
00:36:14going to retreat
00:36:14into his corner
00:36:15and that's just
00:36:16Tony's character.
00:36:17What's a woman
00:36:17meant to feel?
00:36:19I just want you
00:36:20to understand that.
00:36:21So it's really sad
00:36:22because I feel like
00:36:23they're not actually
00:36:24giving themselves a go
00:36:25to develop a solid foundation
00:36:26and build from there.
00:36:28Tony,
00:36:29I know you as a person.
00:36:30You're a very
00:36:31charismatic,
00:36:33energy-filled,
00:36:36young,
00:36:36loving person
00:36:37and I think
00:36:38what Tony's
00:36:39looking for
00:36:40is fun.
00:36:40You don't know him
00:36:41in a relationship scenario.
00:36:44I expect him
00:36:45more than just fun
00:36:46because up until now
00:36:47he's just been
00:36:48giving me headloss.
00:36:49Maybe that's his way
00:36:50of getting close to you
00:36:51and building a connection
00:36:52with you.
00:36:53It's still not okay.
00:36:55Listen,
00:36:55don't ever,
00:36:56ever,
00:36:56even if you think
00:36:57it's funny.
00:36:58That's not funny.
00:37:00That's not funny.
00:37:01Just Van and Mick
00:37:01both said,
00:37:02no headlocks
00:37:03because it's not
00:37:04actually funny.
00:37:06So I'm actually
00:37:07feeling better
00:37:07about that.
00:37:09It's just my way
00:37:10of affection.
00:37:10It's just a
00:37:11I've apologised to her.
00:37:13Although I've allowed
00:37:14him to make me
00:37:16feel this way
00:37:16just through actions,
00:37:18words,
00:37:19acts,
00:37:20you know,
00:37:20not being here,
00:37:22you know,
00:37:22all little drifts
00:37:23and drabs.
00:37:24It was good to hear
00:37:25I'm a fun person
00:37:26before I came
00:37:26into this experiment.
00:37:27I was doing cartwheels
00:37:29and now I'm dragging
00:37:31my feet.
00:37:32But if he respects me
00:37:34for the woman
00:37:34that I am,
00:37:35maybe I can be myself
00:37:36and I can,
00:37:37you know,
00:37:38match him
00:37:38with some fun.
00:37:40For whatever reason,
00:37:41she's been
00:37:42really expressive.
00:37:43Where's that
00:37:43personality here?
00:37:45That's what I'm looking
00:37:45for.
00:37:46It was taken
00:37:46from me,
00:37:47Tony.
00:37:47From who?
00:37:48You.
00:37:48I took your personality.
00:37:49I told you
00:37:50on the couch
00:37:50the other night,
00:37:51nobody has made me
00:37:53feel in such
00:37:54a short time
00:37:54the way you have.
00:37:55Yeah,
00:37:55what did you do,
00:37:56Tony?
00:37:57What did you do?
00:37:57Because I block you,
00:38:00I don't give you
00:38:01the time,
00:38:02I don't compliment you,
00:38:04I don't touch you.
00:38:05What is it?
00:38:05What's bothering you
00:38:06that I took your
00:38:07personality away?
00:38:08I want to know.
00:38:09Tony.
00:38:10Since when was this?
00:38:11Since when did that start?
00:38:12We need to know.
00:38:13Since he made me feel
00:38:15you were gutted
00:38:17when you found out
00:38:18I was 57.
00:38:32Tony,
00:38:33you were gutted
00:38:35when you found out
00:38:36I was 57.
00:38:39You,
00:38:39you were this
00:38:40on the wedding,
00:38:41you were this,
00:38:42you were this,
00:38:43you were this,
00:38:44until,
00:38:45I said,
00:38:45I'm not 40.
00:38:47You just went,
00:38:48and I just went,
00:38:49you didn't.
00:38:50No,
00:38:50I did not.
00:38:51You didn't.
00:38:51I did not.
00:38:53Age is really nothing.
00:38:56What it all comes down to
00:38:57for me is
00:38:58just her personality.
00:39:00It doesn't matter
00:39:01that you've
00:39:02disappointed me
00:39:03or that you've
00:39:04made me sad,
00:39:05okay?
00:39:06The fact that
00:39:07he's still here,
00:39:09he gets a big,
00:39:10a big tick.
00:39:12Huge.
00:39:12Because he could have gone.
00:39:14But,
00:39:15Tony,
00:39:16you are
00:39:16emotionally
00:39:17unavailable.
00:39:18All I need?
00:39:20I've tried everything
00:39:21just to make her happy.
00:39:24But,
00:39:24once again,
00:39:25she's really,
00:39:26really upset
00:39:27and angry
00:39:28all the time,
00:39:29so,
00:39:29it's actually
00:39:31draining me.
00:39:34We spoke about this
00:39:35with the experts.
00:39:36Modena,
00:39:37can I just say
00:39:37something,
00:39:38please?
00:39:38Sure.
00:39:40No relationship
00:39:41is perfect.
00:39:42You're the personality
00:39:43that you are.
00:39:45Tony might be
00:39:46a little bit more
00:39:46withdrawn.
00:39:47He doesn't want to
00:39:48discuss.
00:39:49Stop talking.
00:39:49I don't want to
00:39:50discuss about these things.
00:39:51I don't tell you.
00:39:51No, hold on.
00:39:52Hear me out.
00:39:53Hear me out.
00:39:54Because,
00:39:55you work things out.
00:39:57But only if you
00:39:58want it to work out.
00:40:00Because if you
00:40:00don't want it to work out,
00:40:02and I'm going to,
00:40:02I'm going to look at you
00:40:03now, Tony.
00:40:04If you don't want it
00:40:05to work out,
00:40:06mate,
00:40:07forget it.
00:40:08Moreno had so much hope
00:40:12in finding the right one
00:40:14or at least finding
00:40:15somebody she could
00:40:16build something with.
00:40:18And I really don't think
00:40:19that's what's happening.
00:40:21Because there was a
00:40:22massive shift in
00:40:23Tony's attitude
00:40:24towards her.
00:40:26Tony,
00:40:26can we possibly
00:40:27have a word with you,
00:40:28please?
00:40:29So,
00:40:29I think it's best
00:40:31to speak to Tony.
00:40:32Ask questions?
00:40:33We're going to ask
00:40:33the questions.
00:40:34Okay, Tony.
00:40:36This is like the Italian,
00:40:37Melbourne Italian mafia.
00:40:39This, Tony,
00:40:39we need to...
00:40:40Do you like Marina?
00:40:44Um...
00:40:44As a person,
00:40:46I...
00:40:46Of course I care about her.
00:40:48Okay.
00:40:48Do you know what I mean?
00:40:49Okay.
00:40:49Um...
00:40:50But to me,
00:40:51we're just going
00:40:52to be friends.
00:40:55She's a beautiful lady,
00:40:56but just the personality
00:40:58is not there for me.
00:41:00But,
00:41:01Tony,
00:41:01unfortunately,
00:41:02this experiment
00:41:02has turned her,
00:41:05her emotions,
00:41:06into such a manner.
00:41:08I'm sorry,
00:41:09but we have to say that...
00:41:10She might be different
00:41:11to her friends
00:41:12on the outside,
00:41:13but she's not
00:41:14how she is here.
00:41:15And what's it take
00:41:16for her to be herself?
00:41:17You know,
00:41:17and I'm just over it,
00:41:19man.
00:41:19Really over it.
00:41:23But hold on.
00:41:25Are you just stopping
00:41:27yourself to the point
00:41:28that you're not
00:41:29allowing yourself
00:41:30to possibly bring out
00:41:32more emotion
00:41:33that possibly
00:41:34there could be
00:41:34something there?
00:41:36Um...
00:41:37Uh, romantically,
00:41:39I'm...
00:41:39I'm not that way inclined.
00:41:42You don't think
00:41:43you'll ever...
00:41:45You don't think...
00:41:46It's...
00:41:46It's...
00:41:47It's not going to
00:41:48blossom into anything,
00:41:49put it that way.
00:41:49Okay.
00:41:50Is that because
00:41:50of her age?
00:41:52Is that your issue?
00:41:54You're 53,
00:41:55she's 57,
00:41:56you are young.
00:41:57Just go out.
00:41:58That's it.
00:41:59That's wrong.
00:42:00No, we do.
00:42:00You know what?
00:42:01Just keep a little
00:42:03bit of spark.
00:42:04That's it.
00:42:04That is it.
00:42:05And you're not
00:42:05doing it, mate.
00:42:06And really...
00:42:07You know what the
00:42:07thing is?
00:42:08When I came in,
00:42:09I wanted someone
00:42:10that was a bit younger
00:42:11than me that was
00:42:11still going to have
00:42:12kids and maybe
00:42:13had a kid that
00:42:13was...
00:42:14Oh, see,
00:42:14this changes things.
00:42:16Yeah.
00:42:18I always wanted
00:42:19to have a child.
00:42:21So you want kids?
00:42:25Um...
00:42:25It'll be nice.
00:42:30So that's what I...
00:42:31That changes things.
00:42:33Mike, that's pretty
00:42:33new information about you.
00:42:38I want you to tell
00:42:39Marina you want
00:42:40to have kids.
00:42:41Because she will
00:42:42appreciate you
00:42:44saying that.
00:42:45I've never probably
00:42:46spoken to Marina
00:42:47about that.
00:42:48Because it's taken
00:42:49me a while to think
00:42:50about it all.
00:42:51Like, to register
00:42:51in my head what I
00:42:52really, really want.
00:42:53It's just a Tony thing.
00:42:55This is where
00:42:59the honesty comes in.
00:43:00Yeah.
00:43:00You've got to say
00:43:01to her...
00:43:02Yeah.
00:43:02You've got to tell her.
00:43:04...that she's old
00:43:05and decrepit.
00:43:06That's how you've
00:43:07made her feel.
00:43:08Yeah.
00:43:08But if you're honest,
00:43:09she'll go,
00:43:10well, fair enough,
00:43:10he wants kids.
00:43:11I can't do that.
00:43:13Now that you've
00:43:14explained that to me...
00:43:15Yeah, you've actually
00:43:15said reasoning.
00:43:16I think, well,
00:43:17that's a valid point.
00:43:18We came here to
00:43:20just...
00:43:21to discover
00:43:22what has happened.
00:43:23I think we've
00:43:24achieved that.
00:43:25I think we have.
00:43:26Yeah.
00:43:26Because his hope
00:43:28is to have children
00:43:29and that's the reason
00:43:31that he was hesitant
00:43:33because he knows
00:43:34that that's not possible
00:43:35with Morena.
00:43:37Glad you said that
00:43:38because that's what
00:43:38I thought.
00:43:39I bet you...
00:43:40And that's fair.
00:43:42And you know what?
00:43:43It's not your fault.
00:43:44It's not her fault.
00:43:44It is what it is.
00:43:46I think he's realised
00:43:47that himself...
00:43:48Yeah.
00:43:48...that that's what
00:43:49the thing that put him off...
00:43:51That was the core of it.
00:43:53So if that's the case,
00:43:55they need to...
00:43:56Yeah, they need to move on.
00:43:58Someone was hungry here.
00:43:59They ate everything.
00:43:59Oh, my God.
00:44:00You've got nothing.
00:44:02Nothing.
00:44:03Josephine!
00:44:04Jesus!
00:44:05We needed to decompress.
00:44:08You all good?
00:44:10Great.
00:44:11We just hope
00:44:12the best of the best
00:44:13as to how
00:44:14all will unfold.
00:44:16After talking to
00:44:17Mick and Josephine,
00:44:18they helped me realise
00:44:19that I would love
00:44:20to have a child.
00:44:21All this is coming
00:44:22together for me.
00:44:24So the plan is
00:44:26to explain to Marina
00:44:27how I'm feeling
00:44:28and what I want.
00:44:29Maybe that'll give her
00:44:31a reason of, you know,
00:44:33why.
00:44:34I think it's probably
00:44:36coming to an end.
00:44:38And I hope she
00:44:38won't feel rejected.
00:44:40She has kids.
00:44:41She'll understand it.
00:44:43And she will let go.
00:44:46You've got to open your mouth
00:44:47and say what we talked about.
00:44:50Tell her exactly
00:44:51how you feel.
00:45:03Back at their apartment,
00:45:05Tony is preparing
00:45:07to share his big realisation
00:45:09from his conversation
00:45:11with Marina's friends today.
00:45:13I am a little bit nervous
00:45:15to talk to Marina
00:45:15about how I feel
00:45:17for me having a child.
00:45:19I spoke to her friends
00:45:20about it and they said
00:45:21she'll probably respect you
00:45:22more for telling her that
00:45:24and that way she won't
00:45:25feel rejected
00:45:25because I have reasons
00:45:28for not being, you know,
00:45:30with an older woman.
00:45:31So I want to be
00:45:33completely honest
00:45:33with Marina
00:45:34because I think
00:45:35it's coming to that stage
00:45:37where, you know,
00:45:39we fist bump each other
00:45:40and tap out.
00:45:43Oh, I'll take my shoes off.
00:45:46I think I've got
00:45:48the same coloured socks.
00:45:50Hmm.
00:45:52Anyway,
00:45:53how did you find
00:45:53everything?
00:45:54Was it good?
00:45:55Yeah.
00:45:55Did you take
00:45:56some of the advice
00:45:57on board?
00:45:58Certainly I did.
00:45:59You did?
00:46:01What did the girls
00:46:02say to you?
00:46:03Oh,
00:46:03when they pulled me up?
00:46:05Yeah.
00:46:06I just spoke.
00:46:09They asked me
00:46:10if I,
00:46:12how I feel towards you.
00:46:15You know,
00:46:16are we going to get anywhere
00:46:17or are we just going
00:46:17to be with your friends?
00:46:19Tell me what's the real problem.
00:46:21What's it on?
00:46:22It's a connection.
00:46:23It's a lot of stuff like that.
00:46:26She just said,
00:46:28you know,
00:46:28be honest,
00:46:28what's the real reason?
00:46:30I said,
00:46:30you know what,
00:46:30I want to think about it.
00:46:31Because I've never
00:46:37had a kid before.
00:46:40I've always wanted to,
00:46:43you've had that,
00:46:44you have two beautiful kids.
00:46:46I've never had that
00:46:47and I've always wanted
00:46:49to have that.
00:46:51So that makes it hard
00:46:52for me to really
00:46:53fall for somebody
00:46:55that's older
00:46:55and, you know,
00:46:57you know,
00:46:58it's just,
00:46:59it's how I feel.
00:47:00I've just,
00:47:00that's how I feel.
00:47:01I've never said that.
00:47:02I've always thought about.
00:47:05Tony and I
00:47:06have been on this
00:47:07experiment for weeks
00:47:08and weeks
00:47:09and weeks
00:47:10and he's
00:47:12never
00:47:12uttered a word
00:47:14that he wants
00:47:16to have a baby.
00:47:17Where did it come from?
00:47:19Oof.
00:47:20He's done everything
00:47:21to try and
00:47:22push me away
00:47:23and now,
00:47:24well,
00:47:24I've just realised
00:47:25I want to have a baby.
00:47:27Serious.
00:47:28You're 53.
00:47:31Very strange.
00:47:32It doesn't add up.
00:47:33That would have been
00:47:34very easy to say
00:47:35from the start.
00:47:37But then maybe
00:47:38I just didn't think
00:47:39too much into it
00:47:39and now
00:47:40it's kind of
00:47:40what she said
00:47:41and we spoke about it
00:47:43and it kind of
00:47:44made sense to me.
00:47:46So...
00:47:46I really believe
00:47:49that Tony doesn't
00:47:50know what he wants
00:47:51but all I know
00:47:53is you can't help
00:47:54the way you feel
00:47:55when someone
00:47:56tells you something
00:47:57and his delivery
00:47:58to me,
00:47:59I'm not buying it.
00:48:03It's the only missing
00:48:04piece of the puzzle
00:48:06in my life.
00:48:08It ain't gonna happen
00:48:09with a 57-year-old.
00:48:10It is totally fine
00:48:12that he's not
00:48:13into me.
00:48:15Say it!
00:48:16Because,
00:48:17if anything,
00:48:19he's disrespected
00:48:19me again.
00:48:22Making up this...
00:48:24this sweet little
00:48:26story that
00:48:27I want to reproduce
00:48:28and clearly
00:48:28I can't reproduce.
00:48:32My stamp,
00:48:33you know,
00:48:34expired.
00:48:35That's how I feel.
00:48:42Hmm.
00:48:43Tony has
00:48:44blindsided me.
00:48:46He's lied to me
00:48:47and I don't
00:48:49deserve that.
00:48:50Hell no.
00:48:51So,
00:48:52I don't know
00:48:53where to from here
00:48:54because now
00:48:55I have no respect
00:48:56for him.
00:48:57Not at all.
00:49:02Oh.
00:49:05But I tell you what,
00:49:06it was good to see him.
00:49:11Yes,
00:49:11it was.
00:49:14While
00:49:14Morena tries
00:49:15to understand
00:49:16Tony's latest
00:49:17revelation,
00:49:18down the hall,
00:49:20Veronica is
00:49:21returning to
00:49:21her apartment
00:49:22to speak
00:49:23with her husband
00:49:24Elliot
00:49:24after their
00:49:26earlier
00:49:26confrontation.
00:49:28Elliot and I
00:49:32have been
00:49:32apart
00:49:33and so
00:49:34I've had
00:49:35some time
00:49:35to think
00:49:36about the
00:49:36argument.
00:49:37I probably
00:49:38understand now
00:49:39that he's
00:49:39very sensitive
00:49:40and so
00:49:42I'm just
00:49:43curious to hear
00:49:43like what
00:49:44his side
00:49:45of it is.
00:49:48How are you?
00:49:49Yeah, I'm okay.
00:49:50How are you?
00:49:51Yeah, good.
00:49:52Good?
00:49:53I'm a bit
00:49:53like confused
00:49:55with what's going on.
00:49:57Hmm.
00:49:58You know,
00:49:58like I feel like
00:49:59I don't know
00:49:59where I stand
00:50:00a little bit
00:50:01with you.
00:50:03But I want
00:50:04to hear from
00:50:04you as well.
00:50:04Like what
00:50:05are your thoughts?
00:50:06Like where are you?
00:50:07I just want to hear
00:50:07your side first
00:50:10and then I'll
00:50:11say my piece
00:50:12because
00:50:12I feel like
00:50:15you were quite
00:50:15upset by what
00:50:16I said
00:50:16previously
00:50:17and
00:50:19that obviously
00:50:21didn't go
00:50:21great so
00:50:22I just want
00:50:23to give you
00:50:23the floor.
00:50:23So do you
00:50:24want to talk
00:50:24about it?
00:50:25Yeah, yeah.
00:50:26Great.
00:50:26Yeah, so
00:50:28I felt like
00:50:30I really opened
00:50:31up to you.
00:50:31I talked about
00:50:31something that
00:50:32was a really
00:50:32traumatic memory
00:50:34of mine
00:50:34and it felt
00:50:35like you were
00:50:35trying to
00:50:36communicate to
00:50:36me that I
00:50:37wasn't opening
00:50:38up to you.
00:50:39The argument
00:50:40that we ended
00:50:41up having
00:50:41that you were
00:50:43obviously not
00:50:44satisfied
00:50:46with the
00:50:47outcome of
00:50:48that exercise
00:50:49is what I
00:50:50got from
00:50:50what you
00:50:50were saying.
00:50:50So I want
00:50:53to hear
00:50:53from your
00:50:54side,
00:50:54like explain
00:50:56you know
00:50:57what happened.
00:51:01Thank you
00:51:02for the
00:51:03detailed
00:51:03description
00:51:05of how I
00:51:06should communicate
00:51:06with you.
00:51:07I appreciate
00:51:07that.
00:51:10I was
00:51:11trying to
00:51:12tell you
00:51:12how I was
00:51:13feeling
00:51:13and you
00:51:13were upset.
00:51:17Should have
00:51:17just left
00:51:18it.
00:51:19And I
00:51:19just
00:51:20just let
00:51:21me finish.
00:51:22And
00:51:22I'm having
00:51:25like a
00:51:25visceral
00:51:25reaction
00:51:26to being
00:51:28met with
00:51:28nothing.
00:51:35So what
00:51:36was communicated
00:51:37to me
00:51:38exactly that
00:51:38night?
00:51:39What I
00:51:39just tell me
00:51:41just tell me
00:51:42really simply
00:51:42so we're not
00:51:43overcomplicating
00:51:44it or going
00:51:45around in
00:51:45circles.
00:51:47Yeah,
00:51:48I'm trying
00:51:48to.
00:51:50whether I
00:51:51articulate it
00:51:52as well as
00:51:53you or
00:51:54whether I
00:51:54go into as
00:51:55much detail
00:51:56as you,
00:51:57the fact that
00:51:57I'm able to
00:51:58open up to
00:51:59you about that
00:52:00particular memory
00:52:01for me is
00:52:02like being
00:52:03vulnerable to
00:52:04you.
00:52:07Does that
00:52:08sound...
00:52:08Let's go back.
00:52:09Let's go right
00:52:10back.
00:52:10Yep.
00:52:10when we did
00:52:12the line-up,
00:52:14the wedding line-up.
00:52:14I'm not talking
00:52:14about the line-up.
00:52:14I'm talking
00:52:15about the line-up.
00:52:15I am.
00:52:16I'm allowed to
00:52:17talk about it.
00:52:18Okay.
00:52:18Okay.
00:52:19Sorry, it's just
00:52:20my turn to talk
00:52:20now.
00:52:21So when we
00:52:21did the
00:52:22wedding line-up,
00:52:24I didn't
00:52:26further
00:52:26understand you
00:52:28and I guess
00:52:28that's my
00:52:30goal.
00:52:31And then
00:52:33we got the
00:52:34confession letter
00:52:35again.
00:52:36Met with
00:52:36nothing.
00:52:38I don't have
00:52:38a single
00:52:39thing that I
00:52:40can say
00:52:41that was...
00:52:42I'm so glad
00:52:43he shared that
00:52:44with me
00:52:44because it
00:52:45just gave me
00:52:45this tiny
00:52:46little nugget
00:52:46of something.
00:52:47Like I
00:52:48didn't feel
00:52:49like I got
00:52:50anything from
00:52:51that story.
00:52:53And I
00:52:54don't understand
00:52:55based on
00:52:56that and I
00:52:57can't...
00:52:59Because this
00:52:59is important
00:53:00that, you
00:53:00know,
00:53:01what happened
00:53:01happened.
00:53:02So I'm
00:53:02going to
00:53:02grab the
00:53:03letter and
00:53:04I'm going to
00:53:05talk to you
00:53:06about some
00:53:06things and I
00:53:07want to see
00:53:07what it is
00:53:08about it that
00:53:09you're saying,
00:53:10you know,
00:53:11doesn't tell you
00:53:11anything about
00:53:12me.
00:53:14So the
00:53:15impact this
00:53:16memory has
00:53:17on me,
00:53:18and I'm
00:53:18reading it
00:53:18off the
00:53:19page,
00:53:20is I
00:53:21never want
00:53:21to be
00:53:21overwhelmed
00:53:22by emotion.
00:53:24Like
00:53:25anyone,
00:53:26let me say
00:53:27it, like
00:53:28anyone, I
00:53:29feel things,
00:53:30I just
00:53:30do my best
00:53:31to identify
00:53:32and understand
00:53:32the emotion
00:53:33rather than
00:53:34be controlled
00:53:34by it.
00:53:35That, I
00:53:36just...
00:53:36Nothing, nothing
00:53:37about that
00:53:38says how I
00:53:40was affected by
00:53:41this.
00:53:41No, no.
00:53:42I didn't
00:53:45learn anything
00:53:46about you.
00:53:46It didn't
00:53:47really have
00:53:48much to do
00:53:48about you.
00:53:49You were
00:53:50there.
00:53:50You may have
00:53:51witnessed it
00:53:51and it may
00:53:52have had some
00:53:52kind of effect
00:53:53on you,
00:53:53but you
00:53:54didn't tell
00:53:55me what that
00:53:56effect was.
00:53:56Like, how
00:53:57has this
00:53:57affected you?
00:53:58I don't
00:53:59understand your...
00:54:00You're interrupting
00:54:01me.
00:54:02I don't
00:54:03understand your
00:54:04experience, and
00:54:04that's what we're
00:54:05here to understand,
00:54:06so we can get to
00:54:07know each other.
00:54:07So, there's a few
00:54:11times you keep
00:54:11saying it's
00:54:12someone else's
00:54:12story, it
00:54:13didn't happen to
00:54:14you, right?
00:54:15The story is
00:54:17worse for me
00:54:18than it happened
00:54:19to someone that I
00:54:20care about more
00:54:20than myself.
00:54:21My sister means
00:54:22more to me than
00:54:23myself, so...
00:54:24I didn't know
00:54:25that.
00:54:25You haven't
00:54:26mentioned that
00:54:26in this story.
00:54:27You can't
00:54:27understand that.
00:54:28But I can't
00:54:29imagine that
00:54:30unless you tell
00:54:31me.
00:54:31There's no way
00:54:32of me knowing
00:54:33this information
00:54:34about your life
00:54:34unless you tell
00:54:35it to me.
00:54:36But you just...
00:54:36Do you think
00:54:37that's unreasonable?
00:54:38Yes, because
00:54:39you're...
00:54:39Do you think
00:54:39it's unreasonable
00:54:40that I don't
00:54:40know facts
00:54:41about your
00:54:41life without
00:54:42you sharing
00:54:42it?
00:54:43Yeah.
00:54:43You're presuming
00:54:44that I am
00:54:46with my sister
00:54:46that I don't
00:54:47care about.
00:54:47That's not
00:54:48what I'm
00:54:48presuming.
00:54:49You just said
00:54:49it's somebody
00:54:50else.
00:54:50There's no way
00:54:50I could possibly
00:54:51know these
00:54:51facts about
00:54:52your life
00:54:53unless you
00:54:54tell me.
00:54:57I find it
00:54:58really difficult
00:54:59to communicate
00:55:00with Bea.
00:55:02I was shocked
00:55:03that she can't
00:55:04relate with me
00:55:05about how I
00:55:06would feel more
00:55:07about my
00:55:08sister's health
00:55:09and my
00:55:10sister's life
00:55:10than my
00:55:11own.
00:55:15Like, I'm
00:55:15explaining what
00:55:17happened to me
00:55:17in my words
00:55:19and you're saying
00:55:20I didn't get
00:55:21anything from your
00:55:22words.
00:55:23I was shattered.
00:55:24Like, I thought
00:55:25it was like,
00:55:27yeah, it was one
00:55:28of the worst
00:55:28memories of my
00:55:29life.
00:55:30Right.
00:55:30And for you
00:55:31to just sit
00:55:32there and say
00:55:33I didn't get
00:55:34anything out of
00:55:34that.
00:55:35That's not
00:55:35what I said.
00:55:37For you to
00:55:38say I don't
00:55:39know anything
00:55:39more about you
00:55:40from that.
00:55:41That's not
00:55:41what I said
00:55:41either.
00:55:43I would
00:55:43appreciate it
00:55:44if you don't
00:55:44put words in
00:55:45my mouth and
00:55:45just use the
00:55:46words that I've
00:55:46actually used
00:55:47instead of
00:55:48making up
00:55:48stories.
00:55:49So put it in
00:55:49your words
00:55:50then.
00:55:50I didn't feel
00:55:51that I had
00:55:52gained an
00:55:52additional
00:55:53understanding
00:55:53of you,
00:55:54Elliot.
00:55:57That's
00:55:58literally
00:55:58just what I've
00:56:00just paraphrased.
00:56:01Don't paraphrase
00:56:02my words.
00:56:19what I said
00:56:20for you to
00:56:21just sit
00:56:22there and
00:56:22say I
00:56:23didn't get
00:56:23anything out
00:56:24of that.
00:56:24That's not
00:56:25what I said.
00:56:27For you to
00:56:28say I don't
00:56:29know anything
00:56:29more about
00:56:29you from
00:56:30that.
00:56:30That's not
00:56:30what I said
00:56:31either.
00:56:32I would
00:56:33appreciate it
00:56:33if you don't
00:56:34put words
00:56:34in my mouth
00:56:35and just
00:56:35use the
00:56:35words that
00:56:36I've
00:56:36actually
00:56:36used
00:56:37instead of
00:56:37making up
00:56:38stories.
00:56:38So put it
00:56:39in your
00:56:39words
00:56:39then.
00:56:40I
00:56:40didn't
00:56:40feel
00:56:41that I
00:56:41had
00:56:41gained
00:56:42an
00:56:42additional
00:56:42understanding
00:56:43of you
00:56:43Elliot.
00:56:47That's
00:56:47literally
00:56:48just what
00:56:49I've
00:56:49just
00:56:50paraphrased.
00:56:51Don't
00:56:51paraphrase
00:56:51my words.
00:56:54I
00:56:54really
00:56:55feel like
00:56:55I'm
00:56:55trying
00:56:56to
00:56:57you know
00:56:59sort
00:56:59of
00:56:59meet
00:57:00her
00:57:00in
00:57:00the
00:57:01middle.
00:57:02Yeah
00:57:02just
00:57:02a lot
00:57:03of
00:57:03communication
00:57:04blocks.
00:57:05She
00:57:06has
00:57:06a lot
00:57:06of
00:57:07defensive
00:57:09mechanisms
00:57:09in place.
00:57:11When
00:57:11I
00:57:11try to
00:57:12talk
00:57:13to
00:57:13her
00:57:13openly
00:57:14I'm
00:57:16met
00:57:16with
00:57:17a lot
00:57:17of
00:57:17passive
00:57:17aggressiveness
00:57:18and
00:57:19a lot
00:57:20of
00:57:20sarcasm
00:57:21you know
00:57:22a lot
00:57:23of
00:57:24overreaction.
00:57:27No matter
00:57:28how you
00:57:28look at
00:57:29it
00:57:29this
00:57:29is
00:57:30me
00:57:30opening
00:57:31up
00:57:31okay
00:57:31right
00:57:34do you
00:57:36think
00:57:37someone
00:57:37that's
00:57:37trying
00:57:37to
00:57:37open
00:57:38up
00:57:38to
00:57:38you
00:57:38do
00:57:39you
00:57:39think
00:57:39the
00:57:39best
00:57:40way
00:57:40to
00:57:40encourage
00:57:41them
00:57:41to
00:57:42do
00:57:42it
00:57:42more
00:57:42is
00:57:43to
00:57:43come
00:57:43in
00:57:43and
00:57:44yell
00:57:44at
00:57:45them
00:57:45about
00:57:45it
00:57:45okay
00:57:47what else
00:57:53what do you think
00:57:55about that
00:57:55I'm just listening
00:57:57I don't want to
00:57:57interrupt you
00:57:58you've got the
00:57:59floor
00:57:59well
00:57:59so
00:58:00so
00:58:00the way I look
00:58:01at it
00:58:02is if
00:58:02someone
00:58:02is
00:58:03trying to
00:58:04you know
00:58:05engage with
00:58:07you
00:58:07don't say
00:58:08you know
00:58:09I'm not getting
00:58:09any meaningful
00:58:10understanding
00:58:10of you
00:58:11and
00:58:12do it in a
00:58:12way
00:58:13do it in a
00:58:14way where you
00:58:14feel like
00:58:15you're being
00:58:15ripped off
00:58:16like
00:58:17no I don't
00:58:17feel like I'm
00:58:18being ripped off
00:58:18I was just
00:58:19trying to
00:58:19communicate
00:58:19with you
00:58:20see the way
00:58:23that you
00:58:24say that
00:58:24it's like
00:58:26I'm talking
00:58:26to someone
00:58:27that
00:58:27hates my
00:58:28guts
00:58:28you think
00:58:29I am
00:58:30talking to
00:58:30you in a
00:58:31way
00:58:31that
00:58:31demonstrates
00:58:32that I
00:58:32hate
00:58:33your guts
00:58:33when you
00:58:34ask
00:58:34rhetorical
00:58:35questions
00:58:36you're
00:58:36trying to
00:58:37reframe
00:58:37it
00:58:38as
00:58:38you're
00:58:39the
00:58:39person
00:58:40of
00:58:40authority
00:58:40and
00:58:41I'm
00:58:42just
00:58:43answering
00:58:44your
00:58:44questions
00:58:44just
00:58:46talk to
00:58:46me
00:58:46like
00:58:47a
00:58:47normal
00:58:47person
00:58:48what
00:58:48is
00:58:48it
00:58:49exactly
00:58:49that I
00:58:50can
00:58:50do
00:58:50okay
00:58:50number
00:58:51one
00:58:51you can
00:58:52be
00:58:52more
00:58:52open
00:58:53with
00:58:53your
00:58:53communication
00:58:54I
00:58:54need
00:58:54to
00:58:54be
00:58:55open
00:58:55with
00:58:55my
00:58:55communication
00:58:56so
00:58:57you
00:58:57just
00:58:57an
00:58:57example
00:58:58do you
00:58:58notice how
00:58:59I say
00:59:00something
00:59:00direct
00:59:01right
00:59:02just
00:59:02trying to
00:59:02understand
00:59:03that's why
00:59:03I say
00:59:03it back
00:59:04to you
00:59:04so I
00:59:04make
00:59:05sure
00:59:05that I
00:59:05have
00:59:05understanding
00:59:06to me
00:59:06in a
00:59:06really
00:59:07condescending
00:59:07time
00:59:08I'm not
00:59:08saying
00:59:08this is
00:59:10just
00:59:10my
00:59:10voice
00:59:10and I'm
00:59:11just
00:59:11remaining
00:59:12calm
00:59:12the way
00:59:14that you
00:59:15communicate
00:59:15with me
00:59:16comes
00:59:16across as
00:59:16resentful
00:59:17and I'm
00:59:18saying
00:59:18well let me
00:59:19clear the air
00:59:20I think
00:59:20we've
00:59:20heard
00:59:20a road bump
00:59:21I think
00:59:22I've seen
00:59:23sides of you
00:59:23that I don't
00:59:24like my
00:59:24walls are up
00:59:25I'm not
00:59:26I don't trust
00:59:27you
00:59:27so your
00:59:27walls are
00:59:28up
00:59:28100%
00:59:29are you kidding
00:59:30me
00:59:30the way
00:59:31you spoke
00:59:31to Lauren
00:59:32the way
00:59:33you spoke
00:59:33to Lauren
00:59:33that night
00:59:34at the dinner
00:59:34party
00:59:35the way
00:59:36you spoke
00:59:36to other
00:59:37people
00:59:37the way
00:59:38you conducted
00:59:38yourself
00:59:39I got my
00:59:40walls up
00:59:41so
00:59:43so
00:59:43so
00:59:44you just
00:59:45mentioned
00:59:45what else
00:59:46you'd mentioned
00:59:47how I spoke
00:59:48to Lauren
00:59:49I
00:59:50so
00:59:50so I want
00:59:51to
00:59:51I want
00:59:51to
00:59:52elaborate
00:59:53on that
00:59:54sorry
00:59:54I have no
00:59:55idea what
00:59:55we're talking
00:59:55about anymore
00:59:56I really
00:59:57have no
00:59:58idea
00:59:59what we're
00:59:59talking
00:59:59we just
01:00:00cannot
01:00:00stay
01:00:01on one
01:00:01straight
01:00:01line
01:00:02of
01:00:02communication
01:00:02and find
01:00:03a solution
01:00:04I don't
01:00:05trust
01:00:05you
01:00:05yeah
01:00:06I will
01:00:08not
01:00:08apologise
01:00:09for that
01:00:09and that
01:00:10is the
01:00:10truth
01:00:10speaking
01:00:13please
01:00:13if you
01:00:14can
01:00:14it's
01:00:16not
01:00:17just
01:00:17like
01:00:17one
01:00:18thing
01:00:18it's
01:00:19like
01:00:19multiple
01:00:20things
01:00:20that
01:00:21have
01:00:21all
01:00:21compounded
01:00:22now
01:00:22yeah
01:00:22and
01:00:23the
01:00:23tasks
01:00:24are
01:00:24just
01:00:24the
01:00:24cherry
01:00:25on
01:00:25top
01:00:25see
01:00:26I
01:00:26feel
01:00:26like
01:00:26now
01:00:26we're
01:00:27actually
01:00:27getting
01:00:28someone
01:00:28we're
01:00:28actually
01:00:29able
01:00:29to
01:00:29communicate
01:00:30things
01:00:30like
01:00:30why
01:00:31wasn't
01:00:32this
01:00:32something
01:00:32that
01:00:33you
01:00:33brought
01:00:33up
01:00:33in
01:00:33the
01:00:34beginning
01:00:34because
01:00:34I
01:00:35was
01:00:35giving
01:00:35you
01:00:35time
01:00:36and
01:00:36space
01:00:36and
01:00:37grace
01:00:37to
01:00:38adjust
01:00:39you
01:00:40haven't
01:00:41just
01:00:42assume
01:00:43that I
01:00:43can
01:00:43handle
01:00:44the
01:00:44truth
01:00:45you
01:00:47can't
01:00:48handle
01:00:48the
01:00:48truth
01:00:49Elliot
01:00:49I
01:00:52literally
01:00:52came in
01:00:53here and
01:00:53told you how
01:00:53your letter made me feel
01:00:55and you blew up
01:00:55like
01:00:57it's actually
01:00:58hilarious
01:00:58I can
01:00:59handle
01:00:59the
01:00:59truth
01:00:59and I'm
01:01:00trying
01:01:00to
01:01:00talk
01:01:00to
01:01:00you
01:01:00and
01:01:01you
01:01:01just
01:01:01lose
01:01:01your
01:01:02mind
01:01:02so
01:01:02I
01:01:03don't
01:01:03want
01:01:03to
01:01:03sit
01:01:03here
01:01:03and argue
01:01:04this is
01:01:04giving me
01:01:04a headache
01:01:05my neck
01:01:05hurts
01:01:05so
01:01:05you're
01:01:06doing
01:01:06the same
01:01:06thing
01:01:06as
01:01:07I
01:01:07don't
01:01:10raise
01:01:10your
01:01:10voice
01:01:11at me
01:01:11do
01:01:12not
01:01:13raise
01:01:13your
01:01:13voice
01:01:13at me
01:01:14literally
01:01:14just
01:01:15do
01:01:15not
01:01:15raise
01:01:15your
01:01:15voice
01:01:16at me
01:01:16I've
01:01:17had
01:01:17enough
01:01:17I'm
01:01:17not
01:01:18screaming
01:01:18in
01:01:18your
01:01:18face
01:01:19I'm
01:01:19setting
01:01:19a
01:01:20boundary
01:01:20do
01:01:21not
01:01:21yet
01:01:21raise
01:01:22your
01:01:22voice
01:01:22at me
01:01:22I
01:01:23have
01:01:23been
01:01:23so
01:01:23civil
01:01:24with
01:01:24you
01:01:24and
01:01:24now
01:01:25we
01:01:25are
01:01:25going
01:01:25around
01:01:25in
01:01:26circles
01:01:26and
01:01:26you
01:01:26are
01:01:26being
01:01:27unreasonable
01:01:27and I
01:01:28will not
01:01:28tolerate it
01:01:29this is so
01:01:29civil
01:01:29no I've
01:01:30had
01:01:30enough
01:01:30this is
01:01:31so
01:01:31civil
01:01:31I've
01:01:31had
01:01:32enough
01:01:32good
01:01:33luck
01:01:33Elliot
01:01:49don't
01:01:59have
01:01:59a
01:01:59cage
01:01:59in
01:02:00this
01:02:00door
01:02:00you
01:02:05okay
01:02:05yeah
01:02:06thank
01:02:11you
01:02:11the
01:02:13looks like
01:02:14at that
01:02:14are you
01:02:19okay
01:02:19yeah
01:02:19I'm
01:02:20fine
01:02:20I
01:02:21just
01:02:22I
01:02:22just
01:02:22can't
01:02:22I
01:02:22just
01:02:23can't
01:02:24like
01:02:24we're
01:02:24not
01:02:25getting
01:02:25anywhere
01:02:25it's
01:02:27it's
01:02:27that
01:02:32conversation
01:02:33to me
01:02:34finally
01:02:36started to
01:02:37feel
01:02:37productive
01:02:38yeah
01:02:39just
01:02:39kind of
01:02:40felt
01:02:40like
01:02:40she's
01:02:42not
01:02:43wanting
01:02:43to have
01:02:43that
01:02:44conversation
01:02:44that's
01:02:45what
01:02:45it
01:02:45felt
01:02:45like
01:02:45as
01:02:46soon
01:02:46as
01:02:46the
01:02:47conversation
01:02:47started
01:02:48moving
01:02:48in a
01:02:49difficult
01:02:50but
01:02:51a
01:02:51necessary
01:02:52direction
01:02:52she
01:02:54blew
01:02:54up
01:02:54and
01:02:54walked
01:02:54out
01:02:55it's
01:02:56kind
01:02:56of
01:02:56funny
01:02:56I
01:02:56thought
01:02:56I
01:02:56was
01:02:57supposed
01:02:57to be
01:02:57the
01:02:57guarded
01:02:57one
01:02:58like
01:02:58how does
01:03:04it
01:03:04how
01:03:04I don't
01:03:05know how I'm
01:03:06meant to deal
01:03:06with someone
01:03:06like that
01:03:07like I
01:03:09really don't
01:03:09like I
01:03:10was trying
01:03:10everything
01:03:11like
01:03:11I
01:03:12couldn't
01:03:12make
01:03:12myself
01:03:13small
01:03:13life
01:03:13I
01:03:13tried
01:03:14like I
01:03:15really
01:03:15one thing
01:03:18that she
01:03:19said
01:03:19was that
01:03:21she has
01:03:22her walls
01:03:22up
01:03:22and she
01:03:22doesn't
01:03:23trust me
01:03:23like she
01:03:24just came
01:03:24out and
01:03:24said it
01:03:25point blank
01:03:25and I
01:03:27wanted to
01:03:28say to
01:03:28her
01:03:28like thank
01:03:29you for
01:03:29telling me
01:03:30that
01:03:30like that's
01:03:31I don't
01:03:32take that
01:03:33the wrong
01:03:33way
01:03:34like that
01:03:35that was
01:03:36hard to
01:03:37say
01:03:37but important
01:03:38to say
01:03:39so that
01:03:39we can
01:03:40talk about
01:03:40it and
01:03:41work to
01:03:41resolve it
01:03:42if it's
01:03:43just
01:03:44something
01:03:44that she's
01:03:45keeping to
01:03:45herself
01:03:45and being
01:03:46unsaid
01:03:46and just
01:03:47kind of
01:03:48passively
01:03:48aggressively
01:03:49being
01:03:49communicated
01:03:49to me
01:03:50I can't
01:03:51do
01:03:51anything
01:03:51with
01:03:52that
01:03:52now
01:03:54that
01:03:54you've
01:03:54you know
01:03:55admitted
01:03:56that you've
01:03:56got your
01:03:56walls up
01:03:57you don't
01:03:57trust me
01:03:57how do
01:03:59we get
01:03:59beyond
01:04:00this
01:04:00you know
01:04:00that's
01:04:00the next
01:04:01question
01:04:01tomorrow
01:04:03night
01:04:04dinner
01:04:06is
01:04:07sir
01:04:07it's
01:04:09making me
01:04:09nervous
01:04:09coming into
01:04:10the group
01:04:10now
01:04:11because
01:04:11I'm
01:04:11going to
01:04:12admit
01:04:13to
01:04:13everyone
01:04:13what I've
01:04:13done
01:04:13I did
01:04:16something
01:04:16that I
01:04:16absolutely
01:04:18regret
01:04:18what
01:04:19shocking
01:04:20act
01:04:21it's
01:04:21unacceptable
01:04:21it's
01:04:22disgusting
01:04:22and I'm
01:04:23hating
01:04:23myself
01:04:24doing
01:04:24this
01:04:24threatens
01:04:25to tear
01:04:26apart
01:04:26one of
01:04:27the
01:04:27experiment's
01:04:28strongest
01:04:29couples
01:04:30I
01:04:31um
01:04:32it's
01:04:37very
01:04:37serious
01:04:37very
01:04:40very
01:04:40very
01:04:41series
01:04:41responsibilities
01:04:43and I
01:05:08even
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