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La trilogie Pusher de Nicolas Winding Refn, dans une version restaurée 4K, le 9 juillet au cinéma

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04:56Vous avez des fantômes, et j'aime l'extrême,
04:59donc j'ai pensé que je vais partir de l'autre à l'autre.
05:02Et je pense que j'ai travaillé dans le fantôme,
05:04ça a été beaucoup de fun.
05:06Donc j'ai décidé de faire Pusher 4 quelques années,
05:11mais comme un show de TV,
05:12et ça s'est devenu Copenhagen Cowboy,
05:14qui est vraiment Pusher 4.
05:16Il a des mêmes personnages et des mêmes mondes,
05:20mais je n'étais pas plus intéressé
05:24dans la manière dont j'ai eu l'habitude,
05:26parce que social media dominait cette narrative maintenant.
05:30Tout est accessible, et la plupart du tout est réel,
05:35ou à l'aise peut être très réel,
05:37capturé de moment à moment,
05:39et c'est très efficace, et je ne peux pas faire ça.
05:43Mais ce que je peux faire, c'est que je peux manipuler
05:46ça dans mon propre version.
05:48C'est fantôme, et c'est que je me suis plus intéressé.
05:51J'ai perdu la peur de vivre dans le vrai monde,
05:56et d'être plus excitée par stepping dans le théâtre,
06:02le space de l'unreality, comme un stage.
06:05Et donc, c'est comme l'évolution.
06:09Qu'est-ce que tu veux faire ?
06:12Je pense que si les directeurs veulent retourner
06:15et changer leurs films, je suis sûr qu'il y a une raison.
06:18Je n'ai pas besoin de faire.
06:20Je n'ai jamais eu la liberté de faire
06:23pour faire le film que je voulais faire.
06:25Donc, il n'y a rien à changer.
06:27J'ai quand même regardé.
06:29Donc, une fois que j'ai fait quelque chose,
06:31j'ai été ostracisé dans mon corps.
06:33Il n'est plus en moi.
06:36J'ai必 de retourner à quelque chose d'autre.
06:38Chaque pulir.
11:00Vous allez très vite rouler de steam, en mon opinion.
11:03Je suis très heureux, mais évidemment,
11:07il y a beaucoup de harsh reactions
11:09et beaucoup de booing et de screaming.
11:12Mais je me suis dit, c'est un peu cool,
11:15parce que vous aimez les sex pistols de cinéma.
11:18Vous êtes le premier que tout le monde trompe des bottes.
11:20Mais vous ne pouvez pas dénir la existence.
11:23Vous ne pouvez pas vraiment critiquer ça,
11:25parce que je l'ai fait ma façon.
11:27Le monde va voir ça, c'est qu'il continue d'évoluer.
11:31Et vous devez être, vous devez être,
11:34vous devez être, vous devez être, vous devez être.
11:35Donc vous n'avez jamais vu votre vision
11:36quand vous avez cette forte reaction ?
11:39Non, au contraire, c'est comme énergie.
11:41C'est comme, juste pour le prochain.
11:43Je l'aime.
11:45Je suis comme toi, je n'ai pas de regrets
11:47mais que Dieu forgives.
11:48Je pense que c'est une masterpiece, et c'est vrai.
11:50Je n'ai juste pas fait ça très expensive.
11:52Il y a un docteur en la maison ?
11:54Je n'ai pas besoin d'un medic.
11:56Je n'ai pas besoin d'un docteur en ici.
11:58Est-ce qu'il y a un docteur en disant ?
12:00Quand vous avez mentionné 2001,
12:02il se dit qu'il vous a dit qu'il vous a dit,
12:04vous avez dit qu'il vous a dit qu'il vous a dit ?
12:05Nous ne voulons pas d'un drive pour un autre 30 ans.
12:0930 seconds.
12:10D'un jour, c'est qu'il peut vivre ou de la vie.
12:12Je ne parle pas d'un film.
12:152001 est en 1968.
12:17I made this film about four years ago.
12:20Four years is a zip.
12:22It's not even a blip.
12:24It's not a pimple on the asshole of humanity.
12:28What was funny about talking to Billy Freakin
12:30was that he had a man who had struggled a lot in Hollywood
12:35and started very successfully at a young age
12:40and then had gone into Sorceress
12:43and was still traumatized by that experience after so many years.
12:49And I think that was what was so sad in a way
12:52that it had such an effect on him.
12:54It was a little bit like Michael Cimino doing Heaven's Gate.
12:57These amazing films, both Sorceress and Heaven's Gate,
13:02are probably their best films, for some reason get so destroyed
13:07and then they lose sight of themselves
13:10or they lose their confidence
13:12and it affects all the other movies they make afterwards.
13:15And I was like, I'm never going to be like that
13:17because I'm right, you're wrong.
13:23I mean, I've done two shows, one with Amazon, one with Netflix
13:27and I like what I was making, obviously,
13:30but I don't know how much I want to continue.
13:36I may want to take a break and go and make movies again.
13:41I've decided to do more visual arts, you know,
13:45and trying to find other areas of creativity.
13:51But I think it's time to go make a film again.
13:53You said you work on two shows, but you work on The Famous Five also.
13:57The Famous Five was a television show that I just, how do you say,
14:02executive produced or created, but I had no involvement in it.
14:07Otherwise, I just created the kind of concept and the story
14:10based on these very famous books.
14:12The Famous Five was more because my kids would read the books
14:15when they were young.
14:16I remember my mother reading me the books.
14:18So it was more like a past history thing that came up as an opportunity.
14:27Well, I mean, if something is interesting, you know, why not look at it?
14:31I've had some wonderful meetings in Hollywood, met wonderful people,
14:35but in the end, I like my freedom.
14:38That's all I really want is just to be free.
14:41When you work in Hollywood, there is a contract.
14:44Some people love that and can work within that.
14:47I, it's maybe not so much my thing right now, but who knows,
14:52maybe next year I'll do a big, you know, big superhero movie.
14:58That could be fun maybe.
14:59I don't know.
15:00I'm pretty open to anything, but at the same time,
15:02at the end, you should just make what makes you happy.
15:06It's one thing having creative control, which is easier enough,
15:10but it's where all the money that's invested puts a burden on you.
15:15because all that money has to get, you know, recouped.
15:19And then you have to make a certain type of movie.
15:21You don't have the freedom to do whatever you want
15:23because you're a slave to the economics.
15:27If your film costs $200 million or $100 million,
15:30you need to make $300, $400 million to break even.
15:33That already puts a strain on what kind of movie can you make.
15:36and I don't want any conditions on me at all.
15:42You have to be completely free.
15:47I mean, in the beginning,
15:49a lot of people were talking about another drive,
15:52but it was like that would be the worst idea I've ever heard of.
15:55So never?
15:56Never.
15:57I've been very lucky to live a fun life,
16:09and it has nothing to do with fame.
16:14You realize very quickly.
16:17It has that I've had opportunities,
16:19and I've been able to work with people.
16:21I've met people.
16:23I've spoken with people,
16:25and it's all been a lot of fun.
16:27But I think when I started,
16:30the idea of being seen was very essential.
16:33The idea of fame,
16:35and fame being an opportunity.
16:37It's like an opportunity.
16:38It's like a stage.
16:39One thing is becoming famous.
16:41The next, what are you going to do with it?
16:43And obviously, it's like anything.
16:45It's an opportunity.
16:47I'm so happy to work with you.
16:49I'm so happy to work with you all the time.
16:52I also have to work.
16:54I'm so happy.
16:58We're going to be here in Bangkok for six months.
17:01Yang Han will make his next film,
17:02and I've said yes to the film process.
17:05It's a new thing,
17:06that we're together with him,
17:08when he's filming.
17:10Last, when he was on drive,
17:11I was home with children.
17:13It took ten months.
17:16It was just for a hard time to get away from each other.
17:19My daily life is,
17:22I have a routine.
17:23I wake up,
17:24I do two-hour sports every day.
17:27Then I usually have lunch.
17:30Then I get yelled at by my kids.
17:33I work at night,
17:35and then try not to get to bed too late.
17:39And then Friday comes,
17:41and it's weekend,
17:42and you try to relax a little more,
17:46and the next day is Monday.
17:47Do you watch movies?
17:49I used to watch a lot of movies,
17:51when I was a lot younger,
17:52but now it's just harder and harder.
17:54There's other things that I find interesting.
17:56Like what?
17:57Well, I did my first exhibition,
18:00that just opened in Tokyo,
18:02and that's been a lot of fun to do that.
18:04A collaboration with Hideo Kojima?
18:06Mm-hmm, yeah.
18:07Can you talk about that?
18:08Well, I created an exhibition
18:11that opened on Friday last week in Tokyo,
18:16where I built this installation between us.
18:20I saw my wife and my daughter in the procession.
18:24Hey, it's me!
18:31Where are you going?
18:33Wait!
18:38Don't leave without me!
18:42No!
18:42Don't go!
18:43Don't go!
18:44Please!
18:45Don't go!
18:48And you are in Death Stranding 2, or something?
18:50I am Heart Man,
18:51and Heart Man is forever in Death Stranding.
19:00I think that don't believe everything you read on the internet.
19:03Okay.
19:04Can you tease us something?
19:05Well, believe everything you read on the internet.
19:07Ah, okay.
19:08Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
19:16Bisen?
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