00:00Are more husbands and boyfriends dying at the hands of their wives and partners in India than before?
00:05Well, I think to begin with, one must acknowledge the fact that, you know, the other direction, this violence has been going on for a very long time.
00:11I mean, you know, wives being murdered, you know, is something that we've seen by being murdered either for dowry or for a whole bunch of reasons.
00:18I think the one big shift that is happening is that, you know, unlike the past, there is much more active evaluation of men by women.
00:25To me, if there is this, it is this fact that earlier women were, you know, passively meant to accept, you know, what their lot in a sense, you know, and, and, you know, we come across a lot of these young women who are actually who dread the idea of man-manage.
00:43Because, you know, it's that one lottery, a lot of young women, even in small towns, have much more freedom than they had, you know, their earlier generations had.
00:50They're having a good time with their friends.
00:52There's, you know, they think of themselves in very optimistic terms.
00:55Now you've tasted freedom, you've tasted choice, you probably even have had some kind of a relationship in college, and then you encounter, you know, something more stable, something more lasting.
01:07And I think, therefore, there is this sense that I could do better.
01:11There is a sense that, you know, I'm stuck in something.
01:14Would it be fair to say that you see a bit of a silver lining in all of this?
01:18Is that a fair interpretation of what you just shared?
01:21I don't want to say that there's a silver lining in anybody getting murdered.
01:26I certainly don't want to say that.
01:27I mean, this is a social problem.
01:29It's not a, this is not, this is not a sign of, you know, feminism.
01:33Nothing justifies extreme action of this kind.
01:35But then nothing justifies extreme action of this kind when men were, so I mean, so what, what, essentially it is simply showing that there is a certain side of human nature that expresses itself in this form.
01:48It is not a desirable part of human nature, but it is, but it is a function of the fact that women are seeing, you know, their roles differently.
01:56They are seeing their options differently.
01:58It is not a, that is not a justification of any kind, but that is not, you know, it's not as if that is a normal reaction to being trapped.
02:04A marriage is to bump off somebody.
02:06I mean, that is not the normal reaction, but it certainly does become a, it plays a role because, you know, if it were easier to get divorces, if exits were easier, if the social stigma was lower, where you could pursue a life that you really wanted.
02:19Do you think we're likely to see even more of such cases in the future?
02:23Men, I mean, there is no, there is no fundamental difference in human nature in that sense.
02:28So, I think that I certainly see rising, the self-absorption, the beliefs that you are the center of the universe, the beliefs that you deserve to have what you desire.
02:41These are underlying factors that is true across the board, across genders.
02:46It's a function of the times we live.
02:48But the pattern is the fact that this will probably see more of this from both genders than we do in the past.
02:58This is a function of the times we do in the past.
