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00:00If someone in your local town owned 3 to 5 different businesses, say a cake shop, maybe
00:06a dry cleaner, you'd probably say that they're a pretty well diversified business person.
00:11Yet when it comes to investing in the stock market, experts suggest holding upwards of
00:1520 to 30 different holdings.
00:17Now in today's video I'll share with you guys a clip where Buffett shares his insights
00:20on diversification.
00:21I'm curious what your guys' thoughts are on this topic, so leave a comment down below
00:25on how many stocks you think you should hold in your portfolio.
00:28If you guys enjoy this video be sure to give it a thumbs up and I hope you enjoy the quick
00:32clip.
00:33My name is Mark Hake, I'm from Scottsdale, Arizona and I am very interested in your policies
00:41on diversification and also how you concentrate your investments.
00:46And I've studied your annual reports going back a good number of years and there's been
00:52years where you had a lot of stocks in your marketable, equitable securities portfolio and
00:58there was one year where you only had three in 1987.
01:03So I have two questions.
01:05Given the number of stocks that you have in the portfolio now, what does that imply about
01:10your view of the market in terms of is it fairly valued, that kind of idea?
01:15And second of all, whenever you, it seems that whenever you take a new investment, you never
01:21take less than about 5% and never more than about 10% of the total portfolio with that new
01:28position.
01:30And I wanted to see if I'm correct about that.
01:32Yeah.
01:33Well, on the second point, that there, that really isn't correct.
01:35We, we have positions which you don't even see because we only listed the ones above 600
01:40million in the last report.
01:41And obviously those are all smaller positions.
01:44Sometimes that's because they're smaller companies and we couldn't get that much money.
01:49And sometimes it's because the prices moved up after we bought them.
01:52And sometimes it's because we're, we may be selling the position down even.
01:55But so we have no, there's nothing magic.
01:58We like to put a lot of money in things that, that we feel strongly about.
02:02And that gets back to the diversification question.
02:07We, we think diversification is, as practice generally, makes very little sense for anyone
02:17that knows what they're doing.
02:19They, diversification is a protection against ignorance.
02:23I mean, if you want to make sure that nothing bad happens to you relative to the most of the
02:28market, you own everything.
02:29There's nothing wrong with that.
02:30I mean, that, that is a perfectly sound approach for somebody who, who does not feel they know
02:35how to analyze businesses.
02:36If you know how to analyze businesses and value businesses, it's crazy to own 50 stocks or
02:4240 stocks or 30 stocks probably.
02:45Because there aren't that many wonderful businesses at, that are understandable to a single human being
02:52in all likelihood.
02:53And it, and to have some super wonderful business and then put money in number 30 or 35 on your
02:59list of attractiveness and, and forego putting more money into number one just strikes Charlie
03:04and me as, as, as madness.
03:06And it's, it's conventional practice and it, it, it may, you know, if all you have to achieve
03:12is, is average.
03:13It, it's, it's, it may preserve your job, but it's, it's a confession in our view that
03:21you don't really understand the businesses that you own.
03:24You know, I base, I mean, on a personal portfolio basis, you know, I own one stock, you know, but
03:29it's a business I know and it, and it leaves me very comfortable.
03:33So, you know, do I, do I need to own 28 stocks in order, you know, have proper diversification,
03:39you know, be nonsense.
03:43And within Berkshire, I could pick out three of our businesses and I would, I would be very
03:50happy if they were the only businesses we owned and I had all my money in Berkshire.
03:53Now I love it, the fact that we can find more than that and that we keep adding to it.
03:58But three wonderful businesses is, is more than, is more than you need in this life to
04:05do very well and the average, the average person isn't going to run into that.
04:11I mean, if you look at how the fortunes were built in this country, they weren't built out
04:16of a portfolio of 50 companies.
04:17They were, they were built by someone who, who identified with this, with a wonderful
04:23business.
04:24Coca-Cola is a great example.
04:25A lot of fortunes have been built on that.
04:27And there aren't 50 Coca-Colas.
04:29You know, there aren't 20, if there were, it'd be fine, we could all go out and diversify
04:34like crazy among that group and, and get results that would be equal to owning the really wonderful
04:38one.
04:39But you're not going to find it.
04:41And, and the truth is you don't need it.
04:43I mean, if you, if you had, a really wonderful business is very well protected against, against
04:49the vicissitudes of the economy over time and, and, and the competition.
04:54I mean, you know, we're talking about businesses that are resistant to effective competition.
05:00And three of those will be better than a hundred average businesses at, and, and they'll be
05:06safer incidentally.
05:07I mean, they, they, there is less risk in owning three easy to identify wonderful businesses
05:13there, than there is in owning 50 well-known big businesses.
05:19And it's amazing what has been taught over the years in finance classes about that.
05:25But I can assure you that, that I would rather pick, if, if I had to bet the next 30 years
05:38on the fortunes of, of my family that would be dependent upon the income from a given group
05:44of businesses, I would rather pick three businesses from those we own than own a diversified group
05:48of 50.
05:49Charlie?
05:50Yeah.
05:51What he's saying is that much of what is taught in modern corporate finance courses is
05:58twaddle.
05:59Do you want to elaborate on that, Charlie?
06:15You cannot believe this stuff.
06:18I mean, it's a modern portfolio theory and, oh yeah, it's, it's.
06:26It has no utility.
06:27I mean, it, it, you know, it will tell you how to do average, but you know, I, I, I think
06:32anybody can figure out how to do average in fifth grade.
06:34I mean, it, it's just not that difficult.
06:36And it's, it's elaborate and, you know, there's lots of little Greek letters and all kinds of
06:41things to make you feel that you're in the big leagues, but it, there is no value added.
06:46I have great difficulty with it because I am something of a student of dementia and I
06:53have, and I can ordinarily classify dementia, you know, on some theory structure of models,
07:03but the modern portfolio theory, it involves a type of dementia I just can't even classify.
07:09Something very strange is going on.
07:16If you find, if you find three wonderful businesses in your life, you'll get very rich.
07:20And, and if you understand them, bad things aren't going to happen to those three.
07:25I mean, that, that's the characteristic of it.
07:28By the way, maybe that's the reason there's so much dementia.
07:31If you believe what Warren said, you could teach the whole course in about a week.
07:38Yeah.
07:39Yeah.
07:40And the high priest wouldn't have any edge over the lay people.
07:43And that, that never sells well.
07:45Right.
07:46Not because of it.
07:47Yeah.
07:48Yeah.
07:49Yeah.
07:50Yeah.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Yeah.
07:52Yeah.
07:53Yeah.
07:54That's great.
07:55Yeah.
07:56Yeah.
07:57Yeah.
07:58Yeah.
07:59Hey, you may be getting older.
08:00Yeah.
08:01Yeah.
08:02Yeah.
08:03Yeah.
08:04Yeah.
08:05Yeah.
08:06Yeah.
08:07Uh.
08:08No, no, no.
08:10Yeah.
08:12Yeah.
08:13Yeah.
08:13Oh, yeah.
08:14That's okay.

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