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00:00Steve Heslop, second in every race bar one, has one last chance today
00:06and this is the race which could put his name and Norton's into the history books.
00:13But the Norton runs hot at the best of times and hot weather could seize his chances solid.
00:21Strapped into his helmet, he knows the planning and preparation is over
00:25and he knows that he simply has to ride.
00:28From here on, he's on his own.
00:45The clock ticks onwards, the first flag is due at 10am.
00:50For all the riders, this is a time of tension and nerves.
00:53Some make jokes, faces tight, laughing longer and louder than usual.
00:58Others check the things, they and every member of the team have checked 15 times already this morning.
01:07On the podium, the Lieutenant Governor of the Isle of Man watches the stopwatch.
01:11Flag poised, ready.
01:12The first man moves away and the line begins to roll forwards to the start.
01:27At 10 second intervals, they go.
01:29Joey Dunlop, number three.
01:32At number four, Carl Fogarty, Yamaha's hot favourite.
01:36Behind him in the line, Steve Heslop waits his turn.
01:40One minute and ten seconds past ten.
01:51Mick Jeffries and the Honda leave the line.
01:5520 seconds later, Phil McCullen follows Colin Gable away into Bray Hill at the start of six laps.
02:01Nick Jeffries, round Quarterbridge and already going past Braddon Church.
02:13Joey Dunlop's ahead of him, hard on the gas, racing towards the right turn at Balacrane and the long trek north to Ramsey.
02:19At the start line, the moment has come for Steve Heslop.
02:36Unlike every other race of the week, I set off to the start line for the senior.
02:41Still determined to win, even more determined than anything.
02:43But rather than go straight into the lap like every other race with a very aggressive approach,
02:50I thought I'll change my tactics back to my older style of riding and really try and settle in quicker
02:56and treat each section a lot smoother, breaking quicker and everything.
03:01And I think it worked out and I settled a lot faster.
03:04So this might be your last chance to win a senior TT, as we know it now, on anything, is that right?
03:14Yeah, I would almost imagine that's right, because I just feel as though I've done my time here
03:19and I'd like to move on to something else, and this probably will be my last senior.
03:25Doesn't that make you double nervous going out there?
03:28It does a bit. You think, well, it's my last race, I wonder how it'll turn out, but I'll just have to see.
03:33Cross my fingers.
03:35Cronky body straights and Robert Holden comes through first, followed by Steve Ward.
03:39And after just 10 miles, Fogarty's already ahead of Joey Dunlop,
03:43who was up until 3am sorting out last-minute problems on the Honda.
03:48And here's one of several men who could make history today.
03:51Phil McAllen could take a hat-trick home if he wins this race as well.
03:57Not so much chance, because I try not to sort of get worked up too much like that.
04:01I try just to work it as it comes, and hopefully today reliability might pay off again,
04:06or anything could happen.
04:07Steve and Carl, the boys are really desperate for a win,
04:10so it's according to how hard they'll be trying, you know.
04:13I think that gives you an edge.
04:14Carl, I mean, I think Carl would just like to finish,
04:16but Steve certainly would like to do something other than second.
04:18Do you think with a little bit more relaxation you're better placed?
04:21Well, hopefully I can play it steady and not damage the machinery,
04:24and I think reliability's a big thing here in the end of the day.
04:30Coming off Cronky Voddy,
04:32McAllen's already being pressed hard by the flying Norton of Robert Dunlop,
04:36joint leader with Carl Fogarty.
04:38He's half a mile from Beloft Bridge at Balacry,
04:40leading Holden and Ward on the road
04:42and really going for golf.
04:44Front wheel waving at 170 miles an hour.
04:46It looks like nothing from this angle on board with Joey Dunlop,
04:53but it's serious from this one,
04:56and Trevor Nation signals to his crew that he's somehow read the board.
05:00Mark Farmer going over the edge into Bergaro
05:03and on towards the 13th milestone.
05:06Yeah, as you go through the bottom of here,
05:07it really knocks the wind out of your chest
05:09as he bottomed down in the tank.
05:13Robbers at Balacry is in front of McAllen,
05:15but the Honda will not be dropped
05:16and Gable gets the wobbles.
05:18Ian Locker behind takes over Steve Hazlitt's entry
05:21and coming out of Ramsey onto the mountain,
05:23Carl Fogarty has a lead of two seconds
05:25over Steve Hislop and Robert Dunlop,
05:27who are joint second.
05:29Yeah, they're a bit scary around here, I think, now.
05:32I mean, when you jump on the 70,
05:34get on a 400, it's such a nice, relaxing ride.
05:3670 out of here, it's around here,
05:38it kind of rides you, you know,
05:39he's just hanging on in there.
05:41It's really hard to the fast sections
05:43and I don't really know what the answer is, really.
05:45I mean, I'd like to say 500s back here, me.
05:47I think the 500s would be great around here.
05:49They'd be a lot lighter.
05:50You just use the power from point to point.
05:52Get out of trouble more because they're lighter,
05:54better brakes on them,
05:55and more interesting racing, you know.
05:57Through the last downhill sections,
05:59out onto the start and finish straight,
06:01and up over Agos Lee.
06:03We have to wait two minutes for Steve Hislop
06:05to come through the start line before we know a time.
06:08Fogarty will be five miles into the course
06:10before he knows how he's doing,
06:11so he must press on.
06:13Robert Dunlop leads Phil McCallum through Bray Hill,
06:16and he may be second or third,
06:17depending on Hislop's lap time.
06:19Foggy's leaving Braddon for Union Mills,
06:21and here is the Norton, second place,
06:24one second down, flying out of Bray Hill.
06:26Robert and McCallum are at Braddon.
06:28Robert's third, McCallum fourth.
06:30Dunlop could make history for Norton
06:31if he wins this race.
06:34Yeah, that's right.
06:35I mean, I'm, well, I'm, like,
06:37a good few of the boys, I'm here to one,
06:39and that's what I'd be trying to do,
06:40and if I ride hard enough to do it,
06:42that, you know, that's great.
06:43If I don't, well, you know,
06:45that's a bit disappointing,
06:46but I'd be here to give it my best shot
06:49just the same as everybody else.
06:50Bergaro, the kerb cam,
06:52and watch this suspension bottom out
06:54if you have time.
06:55Foggy's at Quarry Benz,
06:56hanging on to a tiny lead, perhaps.
06:59At Bergaro, Steve Hislop knows
07:01what Foggy doesn't.
07:02The gap between them is just one second.
07:06By Ramsey, Hislop has edged into the lead.
07:09Foggy knows it now
07:10as he comes out onto the fastest part of the course.
07:14At the Gooseneck, five miles behind,
07:16and you know you're in the lead.
07:18Yeah, I got a signal just exiting the Gooseneck,
07:20that was plus one second,
07:22and I just tried as hard as I could over the mountain
07:26because I know Carl's quite quick up there,
07:28and I thought, well,
07:29I've got to really try and get this one,
07:31and just pushed and pushed as hard as I could.
07:34Robert Dunlop's in front on the road,
07:39third on corrected time,
07:40but Foggy's already going downhill.
07:42At the bungalow, though,
07:44Steve Hislop on the white Norton is race leader,
07:46still climbing up Halewood's rise.
07:49Robert Dunlop leads Phil McCallan down through Hillbury,
07:52and the pair still only yards apart.
07:55Foggy into the pits for fuel and perhaps a rear tyre.
07:58His lap time and time in the pits
08:00are measured from when he sets his foot down in the box.
08:02He's two seconds behind this,
08:04what we heard is Ramsey Harkin,
08:06but we've got the mountain climb since then.
08:07Two seconds down after 75 miles of racing.
08:12They've already covered a Grand Prix distance,
08:15and they're only a third of the way into the race.
08:18Foggy second, Dunlop third,
08:20Phil McCallan fourth,
08:21and Foggy exits.
08:2227 seconds in the pits,
08:24a fast turnaround,
08:25fuel and a quick wipe of the visor.
08:26The rear tyre is OK.
08:28Robert Dunlop comes into the pits,
08:30no sign of overheating for the Norton on this hot day,
08:33but still that question mark is there,
08:35but Foggy's back on with the programme
08:36while the pit stops continue.
08:39The pits, and with a tiny two-second lead,
08:41the Norton team changed the back tyre.
08:43In a stop lasting 33 seconds,
08:45the lead was lost,
08:46and Steve Hislop went down into second place.
08:50We changed the back tyre in the first pit stop
08:54so that we wouldn't lose time later in the race,
08:56just in case it got in a close situation,
08:58Dyson for the lead with Carl.
09:00At least I knew I was on good rubber
09:02that would last the rest of the race.
09:03But while Steve was on his way out of the pits,
09:07it wasn't plain sailing elsewhere,
09:09and others were staying exactly where they were.
09:12Phil McCallan, the prime example.
09:15Phil, any idea what the problem is?
09:17We'll bust a radiator,
09:19and that's why I had to take it easy there
09:21for that whole second lap.
09:23Is that just a stone getting kicked up
09:24when you were dicing with Robert?
09:25I don't know what it was,
09:26just there's a hole in the radiator there,
09:27but we're trying to seal it now,
09:28and maybe we'll get out and get a finish.
09:29So I'm really having to go hard now
09:32because I know I've lost time in the pits
09:34by changing the tyre,
09:35so I'm just trying as hard as I can.
09:38Fogarty's already at Bergaro,
09:4012 miles up the road,
09:41and in the pits,
09:42Joey Dunlop retires,
09:43all chances of a record win gone.
09:45Joey, want to tell us how you feel now?
09:48I only did two laps.
09:50I couldn't see where I was going,
09:51and Robert and Phillip come past me.
09:54I didn't know where it was one raider or two raiders,
09:55so I said,
09:56if we get out of it, that's it.
09:57Phil McAllen definitely out now.
10:00Two men robbed of their chance to make history,
10:02and only Carl Fogarty stands between the Norton riders
10:05and their slot in the record books.
10:09And that's Steve Ward in Bergaro,
10:12and that's a very hard landing.
10:16Robert Dunlop follows Fogarty towards Ginger Hall.
10:22Looks like Steve went in too heavy there,
10:25and the suspension like bottomed out at the rear.
10:27I don't know what happened there, really.
10:30On board, looking back at his lock.
10:32Lap record holder at 123.48 miles an hour.
10:3618 minutes, 20 seconds round this course,
10:39and it's a lap record which a year ago
10:41never looked like being approached again
10:43unless the RVFs returned.
10:45But we've already been within a couple of seconds of it,
10:48and we haven't seen a full flying lap yet.
10:50This could be the fastest lap on record if the Norton doesn't seize,
10:54and if the Yamaha gearbox holds up.
10:59Robert Dunlop, third on the road.
11:02Beginning the climb up towards Snaefell.
11:15Fogarty's away and over the mountain,
11:16pushing hard because he knows that the white Norton
11:19is reeling him in again,
11:20and the lead from the pit stops had halved
11:22by the time he reached Ramsey,
11:24and that the Norton will fly across the mountain.
11:27Yeah, I'd pulled back some time on Carl
11:30out to Glen Helen,
11:32and I got my first signal at the 13th,
11:34and I knew I was closing in,
11:36so I was just waiting on my next board
11:37as I approached the gooseneck here.
11:39Three seconds down at Ramsey.
11:48Fogarty, Hislop, Dunlop and Jeffries.
11:50That's the order.
11:51First to fourth as the leaders come streaming
11:53over the mountain on their third lap.
11:56Robert Dunlop, third on the timesheets,
11:59ahead on the road,
12:00but the white Norton closing from behind.
12:03Yeah, I knew Robert was in front,
12:05but I wasn't really trying to just catch him.
12:08when you're in a race situation,
12:09you're racing the clock, not each rider,
12:12so you're just trying to catch him up all the time, you know.
12:16Fogarty at the crag,
12:17into circuit racing mode,
12:19scratching very fast across the mountain.
12:21The battle almost halfway over,
12:23but this one isn't as easy as the Formula One,
12:25and there's no sign here of that massive 40-second lead,
12:28and here's the reason why.
12:31Nick Jeffries down to the crag,
12:33and behind comes Robert Dunlop,
12:34ahead of Robert Holden now.
12:38The start of lap four as they pass the halfway mark,
12:48and Fogarty knows the Norton is close behind,
12:50despite the much faster Yamaha pit stop.
12:53Still coming down off the mountain, Steve Hislop,
12:56and because he's a couple of minutes behind on the road,
12:58nobody really knows how close it is.
13:01Following Nick Jeffries, out of Bray Hill,
13:10Robert Dunlop is third,
13:1230 seconds behind the battle for the lead.
13:16And at the end of the lap, it's official,
13:18the Norton one second behind the Yamaha.
13:21Yeah, I'd really made some time over the mountain,
13:25which surprised me because Carl's usually so fast there,
13:28and I was really impressed when I got the signal,
13:31minus one.
13:32So I just tried to keep my head down and keep going.
13:37You've got to watch when you're coming up behind,
13:39like, tail enders, as I'm here,
13:42how they can really,
13:45you can really get messed up on your brake,
13:47and you've got to watch,
13:48it can be a bit deceiving sometimes.
13:56Quarter bridge, no time to be made there,
13:58but heading out now into the lap towards Union Mills,
14:01Jeffries, still clinging on in front of Dunlop.
14:07Yeah, approaching Union Mills,
14:08I'm still having trouble with the back marker here,
14:10so you've just really got to watch,
14:13way up where the boy's going to go,
14:14and then try and squirt past him.
14:17Fogarty is squirting past them,
14:23still flying on this lap,
14:25trying to maintain a lead.
14:26Here he is at Ramsey hairpin,
14:29and the signboards now tell him
14:30that he is chasing the white Norton.
14:33Across the mountain,
14:35Fogarty gets his head down
14:36and starts to chase hard.
14:40Yeah, I got a signal that I was in the lead here,
14:43so I was really happy about that,
14:46and really starting to charge.
14:47As we come into the bungalow bridge,
14:49I'd noticed Robert Holden looked back
14:51and spotted me coming in,
14:52and he actually signalled on the wrong side here.
14:55By the time I got to the corner,
14:56I was passing him on the other side.
14:58And I'd already made a bit of ground
15:01by the time we got to Brandiwell.
15:07Fogarty at signpost.
15:09He knows he's lost the edge to Steve,
15:11but he doesn't know.
15:12He's lost the wadding from his silencer,
15:13although he does know there's something wrong with it.
15:16In the pits at the end of lap four,
15:17the situation is that between Douglas and Ramsey,
15:20a distance of 24 miles,
15:22Steve Hislop has opened up an eight-second gap
15:24on Carl Fogarty,
15:25equalled his own senior lap record on the RVF of 18.21.8,
15:30and is due into the pits after Carl Fogarty.
15:33This pit stop could be vital.
15:36Steve Hislop and the Norton lost time here
15:38at the end of lap two with that tyre change, remember.
15:41There's the leaderboard confirming that gap
15:44and confirming also that Robert Dunlop in third place
15:47is in a different race.
15:51No rear tyre, Fogarty gets away
15:53after another perfect 27-second pit stop.
15:57Yeah, I was cleaning my visor there.
15:59I like to do that myself.
16:00I think I actually got the mechanics panicking a little
16:03because Ray was still filling the fuel,
16:05and I reached forward to try and switch the switch back on
16:08to on, the engine kill switch.
16:10The result of that, Ray started to panic
16:15when he put the filler cap on,
16:17and, of course, it needed a calming word from Barry
16:20to solve it.
16:27Don't panic. Slow down. That's it.
16:30That's Barry.
16:32Coming into the pits, the Norton had a seven-second lead,
16:35but that has changed everything.
16:37The jam filler flap cost real time.
16:40The Norton spent 35 seconds in the pits
16:42longer than for the wheel change on lap two
16:44and gets back on the road with just one second
16:47in hand on Carl Fogarty
16:48with Robert Dunlop third and 54 seconds behind.
16:53By Balacrane seven miles into the course,
16:55Fogarty had gained a three-second lead.
16:57The pendulum was swinging back
16:59in Yamaha's direction once again.
17:03Robert Dunlop was still close to Nick Jeffries on the road,
17:06although the gap between third and fourth on the timesheets
17:09was actually 30 seconds and more.
17:21And behind comes the white Norton,
17:24quivering under brakes for the right-hander at Balacrane,
17:27charging hard to catch up with Carl Fogarty once again.
17:30Coming into Ramsey 17 miles up the road,
17:37Fogarty doesn't yet know what Hislop has done
17:39between the hedges and the stone walls
17:41through Handley's, Kirk Michael, Wren Cullen and Baluff,
17:44fast through quarry bends,
17:45touching 185 miles an hour in places
17:48faster than a Grand Prix bike.
17:50And he relentlessly closes that gap
17:53between Glen Helen and Ramsey.
17:55in just 14 miles,
17:56Steve Hislop has pulled up seven seconds,
17:59passing Fogarty for the lead
18:01and closing with Robert Dunlop
18:02and Nick Jeffries on the road.
18:05There's a good example of how hard I was trying.
18:07I was even using the bus stop
18:08at Schoolhouse Corner there.
18:12Closing with Jeffries,
18:13passing him and now chasing after Robert Dunlop
18:16on the mountain climb.
18:18Across Snaefell,
18:19Fogarty once again struggled with bike trouble.
18:21The exhaust was blowing
18:22and the Yamaha was going flat on him.
18:24He was losing that vital performance edge
18:27in a race that was heading towards record-breaking speeds.
18:30He just wasn't quite as fast as he had been
18:32on the opening laps.
18:38Steve Hislop on the Norton,
18:39slightly slower than he had been as well,
18:41but quicker than the Yamaha,
18:43charging again over Snaefell.
18:45They started three minutes apart
18:47at the beginning of the race
18:48and they're still three minutes apart
18:49and laughing at 120 miles an hour,
18:52which puts them six miles apart on the road.
18:55As Fogarty roars through Brayhill,
18:57Steve Hislop is just coming down from the mountain,
19:00but the indications are that he leads this race
19:02by four or five seconds from Carl Fogarty.
19:056.4.
19:06That was the gap at the start line
19:08as Hislop hammers Brayhill on the final lap.
19:12Fogarty too, giving it everything
19:13on this last high-speed lap.
19:16Yeah, I knew I had the six-second advantage,
19:20so I thought he's going to struggle
19:22to try and pull that back,
19:23but he'll be trying as hard as he can,
19:25so I thought if I can just ride smooth
19:27but keep it on the gas,
19:29he'll struggle to pull it back.
19:30Norton first and Norton third.
19:40Robert Dunlop still there and still going
19:42and going into Ramsey.
19:43Carl Fogarty on a very fast lap.
19:45The Yamaha man breaking records,
19:48measured point to point,
19:49but the vital time is grandstand to grandstand.
19:56Fogarty out of Ramsey,
19:57coming in the other side.
19:59The white Norton is charging.
20:01He's not breaking records too,
20:03and he leads the race by seven seconds.
20:05It's almost over now.
20:07You must be heart rate pulsed right up there,
20:10eyes squinting, everything.
20:11Yeah, well, we took the precaution
20:12of changing a tyre on the second lap
20:14just to be careful, basically.
20:17It looked good after those two laps.
20:19We had a bit of a scramble
20:20to get the fuel cap in, unfortunately,
20:22which may have lost us a couple of seconds,
20:24but the way Steve's riding,
20:26the way bike appears to be going.
20:27I hope he can do it.
20:31Yeah, I was trying not to panic on the last lap.
20:33I was trying to,
20:34because the Norton runs deep into a corner,
20:36I was trying to get myself to break
20:38that little bit quicker
20:39and just keep it steady,
20:41trying to keep my cool, you know,
20:42and just hope that I could keep that
20:44six seconds advantage over Carl over the mountain.
20:47And over the mountain,
20:52Carl Fogarty is fast again,
20:53even with a bike that's gone off song.
20:56And there's the board that tells him
20:58he has to try harder,
20:59must ride faster if he can.
21:06And he is trying hard.
21:07Bedstead coming out of signpost a mile to go
21:09and Fogarty absolutely on the limit.
21:15Steve Hislop's ahead on time,
21:17behind on the road.
21:18Fogarty will have to wait three minutes
21:20at the finish before he knows
21:21whether he has won or lost.
21:23There's a fair bit of short circuit.
21:27Aggression creeping in there.
21:28I think Carl was really trying that last half lap.
21:32The chequered flag for Carl Fogarty
21:34and he smashes the lap record by three seconds.
21:37But is he the winner or is it his lot?
21:40The white Norton charges out of signpost
21:42and Bedstead still going flat out.
21:47The Loctite Yamaha squad wait for the news.
21:50Norton team manager Barry Simmons
21:54waits in the pit lane.
21:55The suspense is killing him.
21:57Steve Hislop and it's history.
22:00A win for Hislop and a win for Norton.
22:13Relieved now or what?
22:15Am I ever?
22:16History in the making.
22:17Party tonight?
22:18I hope so.
22:18Maybe.
22:19If we can afford it.
22:21Norton on a tiny budget
22:22have beaten the Japanese
22:23and won victory in the senior
22:25for the first time since 1961
22:27and set a new race record in the process.
22:30Steve Hislop,
22:31who said before the start
22:32it would be his last 750 outing
22:34on the Isle of Man
22:35has ended that segment of his career
22:37with a famous victory
22:38that may well be remembered
22:40for another 30 years.
22:42Yeah, it was a hard race.
22:43but I was really pleased
22:45because every other race this week
22:47the first thing I've got
22:48has usually been fourth or fifth
22:49but the first thing I've got
22:50was second minus two
22:52and I thought, yes!
22:53I just settled in a lot
22:55in that first lap
22:55and I knew if I was there
22:57at the start
22:57I'd be almost there at the end
22:59and it's just worked out perfect.
23:01Good race plan.
23:02I'm pleased
23:03I rode really, really hard
23:04I had a few problems
23:05with the front brake
23:05and the handling didn't seem
23:06as good as it was on Saturday
23:07and I just think
23:08that Steve's riding real good
23:09and the Norton must just have
23:10had that speed advantage
23:11on us I think maybe.
23:12Have you changed the bike
23:13since the Formula 1?
23:15No, I didn't touch it
23:16but it just seemed to be
23:18sitting down at the back
23:19with X coming out of corners
23:20and lifting the front up
23:21and you know
23:22overbrail on the last lap
23:23had a real bad moment
23:24and I got to quarter bridge
23:25and I had just no front brake
23:26and I had to pump my line
23:27but it happened quite a few times
23:28and the exhaust started blowing
23:30with two laps to go
23:30but I don't know if it lost power
23:32but it just really gave me a ear
23:33you know
23:34my ears are just ringing now
23:35Carl Fogarty didn't win
23:39but he did finish at last
23:40and he did produce
23:42an absolutely unbelievable last lap
23:44three seconds under the old one
23:46and that on a bike
23:47that was past its best
23:48so you know how hard
23:49he was really trying
23:50and it was a record breaking race
23:53in many ways
23:53the race record was held
23:55by Steve Hislop on the RVF
23:56at 121.09 miles an hour
23:59in one hour 52 minutes 10.2 seconds
24:02now at 121.28
24:05in one hour 51 minutes 59.6
24:08Steve Hislop again
24:09but on a norton
24:11the lap record was Hislop's
24:13at 18.21.8
24:15123.27
24:16now it's Fogarty's
24:18in 18 minutes 18.8
24:20123.61
24:22for the lap
24:23and outright records
24:25but the most important statistic
24:27of them all
24:27is that Steve Hislop
24:28and the white Norton
24:29have ended a 30 year drought
24:31for British manufacturers
24:33Norton have won
24:34the most demanding road race
24:35of them all
24:36for the first time
24:37since Mike Halewood did it
24:38in 1961
24:40needs two drinks then
24:47like where everyone else
24:48has got one
24:49because I'm a dragon bomb
24:51and she's just as bad
24:54one of several men
24:56with a great deal
24:56to celebrate
24:57Steve Hislop
24:58was doing just that
24:59in the round bar
24:59at the Norton party
25:01on Friday night
25:02also with every reason
25:03to raise a glass
25:04Philip McCallum
25:05Jeff Bell
25:06Keith Cornville
25:07Brian Reid
25:08and of course
25:08Joey Dunlop
25:10but the real winners
25:11of the Isle of Man TT
25:12never set foot
25:13on the rostrum
25:14nor even sat in a saddle
25:16but from their vantage points
25:18around the TT course
25:1940,000 spectators
25:20thrilled to the action
25:22at the road racing
25:23capital of the world