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00:00are there patterns and toxic relationships that you see over and over again and the cases that
00:10you take on there are patterns so I've created a taxonomy it's basically four categories and
00:17we see this playbook over and over and over again psychos ass pervs and trolls every single case
00:25that we get is at least one of these but this case is a little bit of all four categories
00:31it's often said that true life is stranger than fiction the facts of this case make that statement
00:36spot-on super strategic and malicious ass Angela deserves what is waiting for her for suffering
00:42and death is the only way acted anonymously troll they were using a VPN to hide their tracks and
00:50then a lot of what happened had this dark sex undercurrent which you know ticks the the perv
00:56box dead babies beheaded children psycho ticks that box they were engaged but now he's moved on months
01:04later somebody has stolen your fairy tale it's the jealous X and when you're fed a story and it takes
01:10root in the media it's very hard to get away from that oh my god to this day I still can't get justice
01:16when they're looking at the same evidence I'm looking at that becomes reality the perception
01:21becomes reality when it comes to love betrayal is the death of a thousand dreams
01:28and the unraveling of countless lives you can spend years picking up the pieces examining them rearranging
01:39them digging through the past to make sense of it all navigating through my personal heartbreak took
01:48me back to my roots as an investigative journalist hi I'm Elizabeth chambers with chamber Elizabeth
01:53chambers outside the Los Angeles Police Department it ignited a curiosity inside of me about love the
01:59fracture oh my god inflicts lasting trauma hi wanted to see if they could ask you some questions
02:04absolutely not and can lead to tragedy and that's when my world ended I feel that it's part of my
02:11calling to meet with the victims the survivors to listen to their stories show how it can happen to
02:17anyone and expose the truth I'm Elizabeth chambers and this is toxic
02:34when a relationship ends a person can become unrecognizable the humiliation loss of power the pain can all drive
02:44someone to their breaking point sometimes when that mask comes off things can escalate beyond just
02:51a heartbreak showing there's no limit to what some people will do for revenge
02:56there's so much media coverage of this case why do you think people are so interested in it
03:09any crime of passion is going to be is going to attract the media because that becomes relatable to
03:16people everybody's had an argument with a significant other so Ian and Angela had a whirlwind
03:21romance can you tell me how they met and how their relationship developed so quickly Ian and Angela
03:26seem like like-minded kindred spirits they met online in January of 2016 they both in a very kind
03:36of Orange County way they love the outdoors they're into health they were married inside of a month which
03:42if you think about it is crazy but it does happen sometimes they're taken with each other they had a
03:50great place to live he had a thriving career a respected U.S. Marshal they're newlyweds they're madly in love
03:58they really have everything you could want and then all of a sudden
04:02out of the blue Angela begins receiving these emails four months into the marriage
04:12beyond just threatening
04:16they're foreboding they're um they really seem to be predicting a very dark future for Angela
04:26some of the the emails would show pictures of dead women who'd been you know brutally um injured and
04:40and um you know decapitated and it was all very very confusing Ian's automatic reaction is that the emails
04:49were coming from his ex Michelle
04:56Michelle and Ian had not been broken up long at all it was a very fresh thing he had gone ahead and
05:03gotten married very quickly so he assumed she was jealous he assumed because Ian and Angela were living
05:10in a condominium that Michelle and Ian had actually purchased together that maybe she felt that somebody
05:16had moved in kind of stolen her dream living in her castle with her prince it's every morning it's
05:21every night but she wants me dead it's only getting worse to show yeah Hadley uh Lilith is her demon cult
05:28fanatical identity we're asking you guys is there a way to put this girl in cuffs tonight maybe that'll
05:35get through to her although I get the feeling it might not so what does Angela do in response to the
05:40emails Angela does what I think most people would do at that point she goes to the Anaheim Police
05:45Department and files for a restraining order which she gets very readily after Angela files and gets
05:52the restraining order the emails uh not only do they not stop but they escalate and they become
06:00more threatening more foreboding and more perverse she calls Anaheim Police Department they come in
06:11puts out the puzzle pieces of what's been going on so what's going on
06:16let me explain okay so my name's Ian uh I'm a U.S. Marshal sorry this is Angela um you guys have been
06:28here a whole boat regarding the same girl regarding the same bitch I'm sorry I'm gonna curse
06:34she sent an email with a Craigslist ad in it for a guy that wants to do a rape like a fantasy rape
06:41so from her email because the haunting be raped for a long time I know I'm sorry I'm sorry here don't look
06:50out at that we have like maybe over 60 emails from her since May that are all the same Angela's getting
07:00what would be any woman's worst nightmare right dozens of emails from her husband's crazy ex detailing
07:06horrific threats against her life but then she gets a link to a Craigslist post that post is in
07:12the section of Craigslist where you can solicit sex it's somebody pretending to be Angela posting that
07:19she wants someone to come to her house and rape her she says hi there I've been dying to have a rape
07:25fantasy while walking my dog following me to the door and forcing me to the condo forcing me not to
07:31screen dragging me upstairs and taking me from behind on the bed if you can fulfill it tonight please let me
07:35know I am 30 tall gorgeous and ready my addresses this address he's coming here to do some great
07:41fantasy that she set up threatening this okay so how do we know that she set it up so Ann and Angela
07:49are convinced that it's Ann's ex Michelle pretending to be Angela posting on Craigslist that she wants
07:55somebody to come to her home address break in and rape her but they don't necessarily have enough
08:03proof for the cops to come that night to arrest her because the emails on the Craigslist post are from
08:08different fake or anonymous accounts this ex-girlfriend of mine has it out for this woman because she
08:15hates her and hates the fact that I'm not with her anymore stupid as it may sound that's what's happening
08:21and she set this up no one else set this up at what point is this girl put in handcuffs
08:28Anaheim detectives spend weeks reviewing all of these threats trying to build a case
08:34and throughout all of this the harassment continues
08:38every time you think it's going to stop and every time we think like our guard goes down a little
08:45it's she won up
08:46she started sending we lost a child in April
08:51this whole nightmare has been orchestrated arranged at the hands of his former girlfriend
09:12this is her right here and she lived here yeah then she I found out she cheated on me with like
09:17six or seven dudes from tinder no problem I told her you're cheating on me you need to make a decision
09:22what you want to do with this relationship and I had Leslie uh my friend here just in case as a
09:26witness and she packed up and she left so obviously you know make sure your doors are locked and all that
09:31then there's a fateful night where it goes beyond just email
09:38a man shows up at the home answering the rape fantasy pregs list posts and brutally attacks Angela
09:47grabs her by the hair slams her up against the wall beats her and in her head she must have been
09:55thinking this is just the fruition of those emails this is all of that coming true
10:00within the craigslist community there's a subculture of people you'll get an address and
10:06you will show up there with the expectation that somebody there wants to take part in a rape fantasy
10:11and it means that if you've had enough and you say no well it's a rape fantasy so that really
10:16doesn't matter there are no rules so it's the darkest of the dark it's the most evil of the most evil
10:23but then somehow she manages to fend this guy off he flees
10:31with this growing mountain of circumstantial evidence and the attack police finally decide okay
10:39it's time to make an arrest and on june 24th michelle hadley is finally taken into custody
10:45the emails and threats immediately stop michelle faced multiple felony counts including attempted
10:54forcible rape and stalking facing life in prison if convicted on all counts it felt like a happy
11:02ending for ian and angela right so it was very cut and dry there was no question and and the police
11:08department moved very very swiftly this was it the case was over slam dunk was michelle because i mean
11:15who else would it have been
11:16that was the story then that michelle was the worst kind of criminal imaginable and we were fed that
11:26script for months and then all of a sudden it became obvious that we had all been asking the wrong
11:33question
11:33it's the ultimate plot twist
11:38it stops on a dime and the entire thing flips around
11:43hi michelle
11:46hi
11:48talk to me about the day you were first served with a restraining order
11:56so i'm at home all of a sudden there are police at the door
12:01so i see leslie carlson there she is a u.s marshall and a good friend of my ex-boyfriend
12:12ian leslie serves a restraining order on me and it didn't have much information in it but it did have
12:20angela's name and that they were married and i see them basically saying that i'm sending harassing
12:27emails to her i don't know who this woman is i don't even have her email address
12:31a few days later i actually called anaheim police department and i left three different voicemail
12:39messages for them i said look they're saying i sent these emails i didn't please call me i want
12:43someone to investigate this the next thing that happens it's a friday night i just remember
12:52pulling up on the cul-de-sac and these lights turn on and a detective slaps his badge on my door and
13:01shines a light in so i immediately feel relief because i'm thinking okay they're here to investigate
13:07you know hallelujah like yes like i've been waiting for someone to come and talk to me
13:11so i hop out of the car and he says we have a warrant for your devices and i'm thinking
13:16great they'll get my devices all of them they'll i'll give them my passcodes they'll see that i
13:22haven't done anything but he basically says he's going to place me under arrest
13:27under arrest like i don't understand like i didn't violate the restraining order
13:32i'm trying to wrap my brain around this situation and they processed me that night
13:38and put me in a jail cell and then i found out that angela got attacked
13:45at this point i'm shaking because i'm starting to realize that this is on a different level than i
13:57initially thought when the jail cell that night i called my parents and my dad said they've set
14:05the bail really high they had set it at a million dollars he gave me the choice he said we can use
14:12that money to hire a really good attorney and prove your innocence but you know that means you're
14:17going to have to stay in there for a while and uh i told him okay let's get the attorney
14:24i told him i can handle it
14:26i had no idea what it was going to be like either i mean i just i didn't know what to expect but i just
14:38knew that they were charging me with life and so at this point it was like well my only chance is to
14:49get an attorney and get out of here and prove that i'm innocent what was going through your head
14:54i was completely bewildered and just you know you're up all night because you're upset you're
14:59confused how am i in here i didn't do anything wrong and i knew without a shadow of a doubt
15:05who the mastermind was behind it
15:08i met ian online in october of 2013
15:17on the first date he told me that he was a u.s marshal of course immediately i'm thinking oh
15:23okay great these are guys who want to help people like they want to serve their country they want to
15:31serve other people so i'm in my head already checking off these boxes that i have of like
15:36this is someone who you know is that stable kind of all-american boy
15:39basically after that the relationship really sped up it started to get you know physical very quickly
15:49um we were spending a lot of time together we met in october of 2013 and less than six months
15:56later we moved in together we dated a little over a year and then all of a sudden he's proposing to
16:02me so i was very surprised pretty shortly after we got engaged one day we're driving through downtown
16:12anaheim and there were these new construction condos and he says okay let's stop and like go look
16:17at these he wanted to buy one so we you know signed the paperwork to go on the mortgage together
16:24and he told me he had no money to put towards the down payment so i put the entire deposit down
16:30it was about fourteen thousand dollars how did that affect your relationship you're not moving
16:35in together you're engaged so it was an interesting time because there was this dynamic where there
16:39was this excitement also mixed with this dread and fear and worry because there were so many issues
16:45in the relationship what were those issues what did you guys fight about so he was very controlling
16:50he decided where things went what type of furniture that we had he would tell me what to wear he wanted
16:56me to have a belly button ring he wanted me to get fake nails there was even one time where he sort of
17:01floated the idea of getting a boob job like i mean there's just this element of he was building the body
17:06that he wanted at any point did you consider leaving him there was one time after we had moved into the
17:12condo i remember i was starting to go get my stuff from the master bedroom and he followed me up and i
17:23went to get my purse and i went to go around him to leave and he grabbed me and he pushed me down on the bed
17:30i just remember clawing on the bed and screaming and he's pulling me at my ankles back and i just
17:42remember feeling horrified because he had guns all over the apartment he had a shotgun under his bed he
17:48had guns in the closet i was completely outmatched in this situation like i didn't think i could get out
17:54of that all i remember was breaking down and sobbing and he threatened to call the police on me
18:01the fear is hard to describe to people who haven't had to exit one of these relationships
18:09with someone who has guns and has the ability to track people
18:12you're like well i don't know if i can battle someone who is in law enforcement you feel like you're stuck
18:18you know right around the time it started to get really difficult we went out one night and
18:26he spent the entire night staring at this girl to the point i was like hey i'm right here like and i
18:32remember calling him out on it and just saying like this is feels so disrespectful and he told me
18:37you're not a special snowflake and i always sort of had this belief that we're all unique little
18:45individual people and we deserve to be valued and cherished and so something about this just
18:49cut right to the core of my belief system
18:52well the next day he had his friend leslie carlson there and i remember just thinking to myself
19:01this is it this is the moment i have to leave i knew he wouldn't do anything while she was there
19:05like he wouldn't do anything dramatic i had a tiny little jetta i packed it full of everything i could
19:11fit in there and i got in my car and that was it and i left
19:16after michelle moved back in with her parents she found herself in a dispute with ian over their condo
19:26ian refused to move out or sell the condo michelle then had to hire attorneys to help negotiate an
19:32agreement between her and ian they finally agreed that ian could stay in the condo if he paid the
19:38mortgage within six months if he failed to do so a backup clause would be enacted and he would have
19:43to sell the condo immediately and they would split the profits after the engagement was broken off
19:49how did ian treat you he would keep going back and forth between making sure i knew he intended to stay
19:54in the condo he intended to keep the condo but then also trying to get me back wanting me to come back
19:59so you know i didn't feel completely um free and there were always like little hidden threats like
20:07he would tell me oh i just canceled your car insurance you better watch out while you're on
20:11the road so you don't get pulled over and of course i'm thinking well he's law enforcement he's probably
20:15gonna have someone pull me over were you still afraid at this point so i think for the first few
20:20months i was but then you know when you don't hear from them you think okay they've moved on
20:25but then the six months had come and gone on the mortgage assumption process and once i make it
20:34known that i want to enforce the settlement agreement which says that we just sell the
20:38condo in that case all of a sudden someone started sending emails to angela
20:44what is it like as a father to see your daughter in jail oh it's disturbing
21:01did you ever for a moment think that your daughter was capable of this
21:06capable of it absolutely but she would never do it
21:13your daughter's sitting in jail you are trying to piece this together
21:22well i knew she didn't do it so we stepped back and figured out what we're going to do here
21:26with the anaheim police department and i said well what evidence could you
21:30possibly have that she did this the detective says we saw activity on michelle's email account
21:38in her inbox i said that's not evidence that michelle sent emails michael that's in her inbox
21:43and he also states all these men were showing up responding to all the craze list rape fantasy ads
21:49but there are 22 cameras on the condominium they're everywhere the police report states that nobody was
21:56seen coming or going they had no proof that somebody showed up so the question always came
22:02up is if nobody's seen coming or going then why is somebody in jail at that point you decided that you
22:09had to take this investigation completely into your own hands oh yeah basically yeah because you don't
22:14know to what extent somebody has been able to frame your daughter up
22:19so this would be ian's t-r-o t-r-o stands for temporary restraining order
22:28on july 15th the day after michelle's arrested he went down to the court and filed a t-r-o against her
22:35i have no idea why he did it but he put a lot of evidence that implicated him
22:40all this email emails from lovis truth which is the account that was responding to all the craze
22:48list rape fantasy ads and also created three rape fantasy ads to get responders to come to the
22:57condo so this comes through and you can see right here that's the ip address it tells you
23:02what device she's actually using right and that's angela connell's macbook pro oh my god
23:10and there's the ip of the condominium wow crystal clear so somebody's at the condo sending these
23:18right we don't know who but we know somebody using her account angela could easily send this
23:24but you will notice this information here you know this was ian's doing i created him and he wants
23:33only me right here signed michi did he ever did she even go by that name yes that's her nickname
23:39michi uh-huh then who would know that right angela no yeah so you see it's not complicated
23:45information right the police department had access to all of this in plain sight and that's what is so
23:51infuriating is that it's just a plethora of just garbage that they had it all went back to them
23:56every last bit of it has the footprint of ian all over everything does
24:01and so you know my first thing was i got in touch with the anaheim police department
24:07and they said it's not a new uh police department issue that's a u.s marshal issue so i called up the
24:14u.s marshal service in downtown la and they say well that's not a u.s marshals issue they just blew it off
24:20what was unusual about this case was that the police department the anaheim pd had this couple's
24:30back and like they just accepted as evidence all these emails ian and angela just forwarded
24:37they didn't do any diligence i mean even when they did subpoena the platforms they didn't look at the
24:42results which in in this case would have shown that all the the emails and stuff originated from
24:48in an angela's home it was incredibly frustrating to say the very least that nobody was listening i
24:55can tell you that i was boiling michelle's in jail and he's running loose and thinking that to this day
25:02i still can't get justice when they're looking at the same evidence i'm looking at
25:06so you've now been in jail tell me what that was like
25:14um you're treated like an animal you know like i mean there i mean basically the attitude was just
25:20you can just you know sit in urine and feast like we don't care
25:25the deputy said well because of the crime that you're charged for
25:30you're going to be in a high security section
25:32there you don't see outside you don't see the sunlight and so very quickly you lose track of
25:39what day it is did you fear for your life oh for sure i mean because i looked so different and i
25:45sort of stood out the more violent you know um criminals that were on the upper level they
25:51thought i was a snitch and so they would harass me and accuse me of being a snitch and
25:56so every time the deputies transported me i was scared to death that one of them would attack me
26:02i was thinking they're gonna eat me alive you know i scream wholesome goody two shoes they're
26:11gonna eat me alive
26:12your daughter's sitting in jail you are trying to piece this together and at the same time there's
26:21a huge media storm happening all around you what was that like for you it we saw the effects of it
26:28right away okay with our business i mean it was like who wants to do business with you know the
26:33craziest woman in the world right i mean her face was plastered everywhere and everybody was calling
26:37her the crazy ex right and she did get the award for the uh craziest person in orange county for that
26:41year so i didn't insult to injury yeah
26:44it felt like no matter what you showed them as evidence that i wasn't doing it they didn't care
26:54when you were in jail did you think you were going to be there forever
27:00yeah because it had already been almost three months so i was losing hope towards the end i
27:05thought i was going to be there forever
27:07good morning and thank you all for coming
27:12i'm here to announce the filing of a felony complaint against angela marie diaz
27:18by the orange county district attorney's office the charges include two counts of kidnapping
27:36two counts of false imprisonment perjury and 21 misdemeanor counts of filing false police reports
27:42as michelle her dad and her entire legal team are trying to convince anaheim police department
27:48that ian is behind all of this they learn that out of nowhere ian has walked into apd
27:54to report that angela is actually the one behind the entire thing diaz now stands accused of
28:01pretending to be ms hadley and sending the emails and rape fantasy solicitations to herself
28:06in order to frame ms hadley during the course of the investigation we uncovered other deceptions
28:11including fake cervical cancer pretending to be an attorney forging doctor's notes faking a
28:17pregnancy and impersonating another one of john doe's ex-girlfriends over email
28:21ian said that they were pregnant with twins
28:24i'm actually pregnant again we just called back to it
28:27congratulations and they are both really excited about it ian goes and buys a minivan they get car seats
28:35and then he realizes that she was faking it that she had bought like a fake pregnancy
28:41test off of etsy that she brought fake sonograms angela would go to work but really was didn't have
28:48a job and was like bouncing checks i think she's a professional drifter i think there are people that
28:54they survive by cheating people that's what they do for the anaheim pd and for the d8 the blame shifted
29:02toward angela these two women michelle hadley and angela diaz are connected through a common man for the time
29:08for the time being we're going to identify that man as john doe our joint investigation eventually
29:13determined that the true origins of these emails they originated from the condo shared by john doe and
29:18diaz from diaz's cell phone and from diaz's father's home in arizona the evidence we currently
29:24have does not show involvement by john doe
29:33you are now exonerated of charges how did that feel angela was arrested but they hadn't arrested ian
29:43so it was bittersweet on the one hand it was what i had been waiting for because it meant i could go back
29:49to school i could try to get a job again i could try to start living normally but
29:57there was this other side of it where they were clearly trying to cover up ian's involvement
30:04and that was um it made me angry
30:12you don't come out of 88 days in jail the same person that you went in
30:18i mean i feel like i had nothing to lose after that i knew obviously from the get-go who had done
30:23this you were in jail because of one person and one person only ian created his own worst nightmare
30:31because he took someone who was just this quiet people-pleasing empath and he basically turned her
30:37into someone who was angry and ready to fight when i knew that i was getting out of jail all i could think
30:45was let's do this we are hearing for the first time from the woman at the center of a story that
30:51captivated the country michelle hadley michelle hadley michelle hadley is sharing her story
30:55won't be silent speaking out we talked to people in the media about the case you certainly think he's
31:01involved at this point oh i do absolutely i'd angela could not have written those emails unless she had
31:07the information from from ian and i would not back down because i already knew he was involved there
31:16was a level of corruption to what happened to me and it really centered around the failure of law
31:22enforcement to do any sort of investigation when the da's office held that press conference they very
31:32specifically told my attorney we don't want michelle to come to the press conference they did a whole
31:38powerpoint where they presented this as a love triangle and that angela was the jealous wife trying
31:44to get back at me and they actually put ian up on this powerpoint as the john doe and when i saw that
31:50i just remember thinking wow what a story they have concocted to hide the fact that they had lots of
31:58evidence that he was doing it so we were all pressing the da's office anaheim pd to do something
32:06about it but then in the end anaheim pd decided not to press charges against ian
32:16there is this idea that police officers will protect one another at any cost the cops and the
32:22detectives in anaheim were protecting this federal marshal and it was just not going to be the case from
32:28their perspective that anybody but the federal marshal was was the good guy in the story at this
32:33point the apd's behavior is absolutely egregious all you have to do is watch that initial body camera
32:39footage and you can see ian's lies are laid out right there clear as day he's saying that she cheated
32:45on him she cheated on me with like six or seven dudes from tinder but she didn't he's the one who cheated
32:50on her ian said michelle showed up at her condo she stopped her here well there are cameras everywhere
32:57and not a single piece of evidence or proof showing that she did that you see him on the video acting
33:02like he's the one trying to get her off the mortgage we're in the middle of the refi right now
33:09when in reality michelle was the one fighting to get ian to pay his share and through all of it he was
33:15able to use his position of power and his connections and law enforcement who served him
33:20uh a friend of mine in lefty michelle and her dad have all of the evidence showing that ian is guilty
33:26so i cannot understand why anaheim police department did not pursue ian
33:31so i set up an interview with our former public information officer to try to get some answers
33:36he's not coming what you're joking you're joking well unfortunately i got a call asking that i
33:49not participate in the interview all caps sorry oh my god and you didn't think it was a good idea to
33:57explain this because anaheim is telling them we don't want you to do it he's not he wants to but
34:03they're not letting him i guess that the thing that's the thing that's upsetting is that's proving
34:08the point that there's some sort of like brotherhood yeah like we don't want you to do it so you
34:12shouldn't do it even that you can do it on october 17 2017 angela diaz pleaded guilty she was
34:25immediately sentenced to five years in prison i did not show up to her sentencing hearing and read a
34:32victim statement because it felt like a big sham to me um because i knew who the mastermind was behind
34:37it and then as the years kind of ticked on i remember thinking well if they haven't already
34:44done it they're probably never going to do it so i was losing hope and you hear so many stories where
34:52the victim doesn't really get any justice but then
35:00who is harry lidsky and how is he involved in this case it is very rare to hear these words come
35:06out of my mouth because i don't use this for a lot of people in law enforcement at all anymore
35:12but i would say he's a hero ian diaz he was i think the mastermind ian misdirected the anaheim
35:21police department i think he sent them down a path all the while he was covering his tracks and i think
35:27setting angela up to take the fall and and it worked the orange county da's office was able to uncover
35:36angela's involvement but not ian's ian was still out there with his gun and his badge angela's role
35:42in it was obvious ian's role was a bit harder to uncover but ian made a mistake we found some critical
35:52evidence when looking through angela's hotmail account there's a few dozen emails that purported
35:59to come from angie actually traced back to a doj issued ip address we were able to trace that
36:06further back to ian's work phone to his u.s marshall's phone he never gave anybody the password
36:12of that nobody looked at his work phone but him but also the craigslist piece was was big i mean he
36:18lied about it he explained his craigslist use as minimalist i think he said he remembered selling a
36:25bike once uh it turns out i think somebody described him as the king of craigslist
36:32not only was he using it but he was using the personals he was using it for sexual encounters
36:37ian had this extreme fetish for cuckolding which basically is somebody who gets off on
36:43watching their partner have sex with somebody else and even though michelle did not share those kinks
36:50during their relationship ian got like a stranger off of craigslist to come over and have sex with her
36:56ian you set up essentially a scheduled rape in your own home how did that come about so the first
37:03time he asked me to do this he told me he um had this fantasy of me having sex with another man and i
37:12was very clear in my communication i said you know that's not something i would ever be interested in
37:17doing but he kept pressuring so it felt like no matter how many times i said no he kept pushing pushing
37:22i eventually broke down and i said look i'll do it once i have to be on something because i can't
37:28go through with it if i'm you know like sober did he watch or did he record it he was in a separate room
37:34but he was recording and so i was on you know nyquil and also three shots of liquor so i don't even have
37:43a really clear recollection of it but i remember afterwards him saying you know you better get
37:52tested because his condom fell off and i just remember thinking first of all i didn't even
37:57want to do this and like you put me at risk for something that i didn't even want to do like i
38:02told you no so many times and i had been put into this situation that was the complete and utter
38:09opposite of who i was at my core my identity had basically just been obliterated at this point
38:16i started sobbing uncontrollably and all he said was nobody put a gun to your head
38:22how did it make you feel completely violated that for me is one of the darkest memories of my life
38:29it makes you feel so worthless because like my body was just an object for him to do with what he wanted
38:35michelle's relationship with ian involved the use of craigslist for sex so in an extensive history
38:43of using in all the ways that manifested themselves in the case against michelle that was that was huge
38:50for us and for one of the ads to come and engage in a rape fantasy with angie craigslist required a
39:00user to authenticate that they were doing this voluntarily consensually and ian used his phone
39:07number craigslist sent him a text that post was approved by ian on his cell phone
39:17he told the anahead police department that he never clicked it but craigslist confirmed that he did
39:24the next morning after he realized the mistake he made he went and got a new phone number proving that
39:29for us was uh was a big domino tip in the case against ian do you think he was concerned at this
39:34time i don't i don't know if he was he might have thought after so much time that that he was out of
39:41the woods he seemed surprised when we arrested him ian was finally arrested but michelle had to wait two
39:50more years for the case to go to trial even behind bars ian stuck to his story that angela the real crazy
39:57ex was the one behind the entire scheme but thankfully the jury didn't buy it
40:05he was convicted of conspiracy to commit cyber stalking cyber stalking obstruction
40:09perjury he was sentenced to 121 months in federal prison we always wanted justice for michelle we
40:16always wanted ian to face the justice he deserved um and we never stopped it just took a long time
40:23how did it make you feel at that time and i'm glad i didn't give up
40:34that's a lot of your life to be fighting and dealing with something like this you know but it's very
40:41healing to get that justice i mean i could start moving on with my life i know that not every victim
40:51gets that but i i wish we lived in a world where more did because to finally have that moment where
40:57the world is saying yes we see it was a really powerful moment yeah
41:11my girlfriend i think overdosed i'm trying to resensitate her right now
41:14he's a doctor i'm supposed to trust him he couldn't be poisoning my daughter
41:19can he i cannot think of anything worse than losing my children
41:23i knew i knew i was going to prove that he murdered my sister