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00:14may 2nd 2020 a residential street in the bronx a blue jeep parked for hours until
00:27two men get out of a bright blue jeep grand cherokee they have corona masks on their face
00:34both of them have firearms the gunmen have one objective eliminate the target mr risotto is
00:41coming out of 2522 holland avenue these individuals waited they were stalking him
00:48they just start shooting at him
00:51he runs a couple steps he ends up tripping and he rolls over onto his back i mean you can see him
01:04put his hands up like don't shoot me but they just unload into him
01:08rosado is hit five times it's a bloody execution with bullets hitting his head and neck
01:16this wasn't a target of opportunity this was a planned hit it's almost reminiscent of some of
01:22the mafia hits from back in the day the cctv footage was exactly like a movie you saw some people with
01:29groceries putting them into the trunks of their cars and suddenly these shots just ring out and
01:33everyone jumps to the ground any of them could have been shot by the way
01:36francisco guns rosado the body on the sidewalk was the bronx president of the notorious pagans
01:46emcee of the outlaw motorcycle gangs the pagans have the reputation of being especially violent
01:53mr rosado was completely covered in tattoos his lips privates feet toes those tattoos the cops
02:02while it was easy to id the victim the masked assassins were a different story
02:08the detectives with nypd immediately started suspecting that it was the hell's angels
02:13the hell's angels and the pagans hate each other's guts the sight of them would start
02:18a fight right then and there was on site it's like the bloods in the crypts the hell's angels
02:23have issued a standing green light order to attack assault or even kill any pagan that they encounter
02:31since 1977 when they bought their headquarters on east 3rd street the hell's angels have owned
02:39manhattan and the pagans ruled the bronx but the shit hit the fan in 2019 when the hell's angels
02:47sold their digs and moved uptown hell's angels new york city chapter has moved its headquarters to
02:52this quiet throgs neck neighborhood the old american legion building shows signs that the biker group has
02:58already moved in and decorated two one percenter clubs existing in the same turf it's just never
03:04going to work the hell's angels would hang up their death head which is very big signage they're saying
03:09hey we're here f you we're the hell's angels what are you gonna do less than 48 hours later
03:15the pagans welcome the hell's angels to the neighborhood with a rain of bullets
03:20the hell's angels had to respond because that was on news networks everywhere hell's angel clubhouse
03:36shot at their throgs neck headquarters was shot at back in january by the pagans motorcycle gang so
03:42they have to come back and be big news media somehow some way delicia was part of a motorcycle club turf war
03:50it turned deadly
03:51it's hard to feel empathy for him because rosado shot up their clubhouse but you shoot up the hell's
04:00angels clubhouse something bad may happen to you
04:03the pagans they're not any different than the blood scripts or latin kings they are a violent secretive organization that is
04:12expanding rapidly throughout our country
04:14their patch says it all god forgives pagans don't i was told i was joining the east coast equivalent to the mafia on wheels
04:27if you do not work out you better get missing
04:30this whole thing between the pagans and the hell's angels gonna come to a head soon
04:40the truth of the matter is people will die when that war starts on both sides
04:44for over 65 years the pagans have roared through society
05:02when you ride a motorcycle you feel invincible you feel like nothing can touch you it's kind of like a
05:10drug
05:10i used to ride on the back with my father you don't know the feeling unless you've actually
05:16ridden on a harley and you feel the vibration
05:18the freedom of just going out and riding as many miles as i can in a day
05:23but it's not all wind in the hair at sunset
05:27pagans motorcycle club uh i give the credit where the credit is due
05:31they are a true one percent motorcycle club we don't live by society's normal rules we make our
05:38own rules and we live by them christopher baker is sentenced to 75 years for trafficking more than
05:45260 kilos of meth into north carolina authorities say baker based in raleigh was a national leader for
05:51the pagans motorcycle club the pagans are involved in drug trafficking most commonly methamphetamine
05:55they also trafficking guns and they are known to commit acts of violence in one example an aspiring
06:02pagan known as a prospect was alleged to have stolen from another pagan baker ordered that the prospect
06:09be tortured and his fingers cut off with an electric saw while he forced others to watch i have one
06:16father and two uncles that are pagans and i remember playing with dolls and my ninja turtle toys and then
06:23the door opens abruptly that was my dad you know he's walking into my house with blood on his shirt
06:30but the pagans didn't start out with murderous intent one percenter lore is the motorcycle club
06:36was founded in the late 1950s by lou dobkin the information you have seen on the internet is not
06:41right my grandfather lou dobkin he was in the navy between 1958 to 61 so that debunks him being
06:52the leadership of a motorcycle club in 1959 he was a take no but give no type of person and he liked
06:58racing one of lou's racing buddies was sonny barger the driving force behind the hell's angels
07:04him and sonny were actually very good friends up until the day he died but lou didn't want to be an
07:08angel sonny wanted you to ride from east coast to west coast and those guys thought it's just no we're
07:14not going to be committed to ride all the way out there we're going to be the east coast equivalent to
07:18what you guys got on the west lou named the club after his german shepherd pagan on a stash of rare
07:25audio tapes lou himself describes the pagans rough around the edges greasy ship kicking hell raisers that
07:31believe in the ultimate simplicity of riding and wrenching amongst true brothers on nights and weekends
07:37lou was a thrill-seeking grease monkey but he was leading a double life by day he was a biochemist for the
07:45national institute of health every man has their family life and then they have their personal life
07:50whether your personal life is going and watching a football game on a sunday or going and gathering
07:55with you guys and going out on a motorcycle for their logo lou and the pagans chose the norse fire
08:01giant sutar from the marvel comic journey into mystery normally you wear three patches a top rocker
08:08with the name of your organization a middle rocker which would be the symbol of your gang they have a
08:14sutar sitting on a sun holding a sword and it's all fiery it's just a really really cool looking patch
08:22then a bottom rocker which would claim the area that you're in for years they never wore bottom rocker
08:27because their mentality was they're nomads the rule is if wherever pagans foot is we own
08:36in 1966 the pagans are involved in a shootout with a rival gang in a safeway parking lot
08:43a hundred rounds of ammo are exchanged lou faces a reckoning i worry about the future of the pagans
08:52there are guys waiting to take over who don't share my original vision
08:56they see the club as a path to power and profit his club growing lawless lou dopkin makes an impossible
09:02choice trading his colors for a lab coat tomorrow i'll just be lou dopkin nih biochemist it'll be safer that
09:10way smarter but damn i'll miss the wind in my face and the rumble of bikes around me
09:17media coverage of the shootout cements the pagans reputation as bloodthirsty it's rumored that the
09:22pagans were the ones that started the one percent diamond patch and the other clubs wear it my father
09:28had a tattoo one percent and i asked him what it meant he just said one percent of people are outlaws
09:33that's just human nature i mean you want to feel like you belong to something you want to be
09:38productive and to have somebody standing next to you that has the same interest creates a bond the
09:45pagans tribe runs on two things gasoline and drugs particularly methamphetamines
09:52meth has always been synonymous with motorcycle gangs because they needed a substance to act as a
09:57stimulant for them to ride their bikes a lot longer in the good old days the pagans would cook
10:02their own meth then sell what they didn't use you would see individuals from the pagans with fingers
10:08missing because the process of making meth can be very dangerous pagan purple meth couldn't be touched
10:14by anybody else's methamphetamines eyes bugging out of their head like a cartoon people paid high dollar
10:21for that purple meth for as long as the pagans have been dealing the feds have been on their ass
10:29between the membership and their associates they move a lot of drugs yeah there's a several
10:34documented cases where pagan members have been arrested for operating meth labs 22 pagans including
10:41four of its national leaders are charged in 1984 for selling meth and pcp drugs may be the bread and butter of
10:49the pagans but they're also big on extortion long island late 90s pagans are squeezing thousands
10:58from adult businesses those who refuse to pay 400 a week for protection are threatened with violence
11:04or arson the ringleader behind this scheme is chapter president and national sergeant at arms keith
11:11richter keith richter is known in the pagan nation as conan conan conan conan the barbarian
11:20conan gets his name from the fearless marvel comics character played by arnold schwarzenegger
11:28tall muscular has his long hair braided and a beard he looks like a viking warrior the man
11:36would give speeches and make the hair on your neck stand up made you proud to be a pagan
11:41i can't imagine the energy of archangel michael even the hell's angels say he is a great guy
11:49well a leader of the pagans motorcycle gang is behind bars on long island keith richter
11:54they were shaking down strip clubs and this one in particular the bouncers weren't gonna let pagans
12:00come in and shake it down on the carousel in huntington seems they got a pretty tough bouncer
12:04there and he would beat the pagans up whenever they tried to get in conan decides to have the
12:09problem removed the fbi said among other crimes mr richter put out a murder contract on him
12:15conan the barbarian goes to prison for attempting and conspiring to commit murder
12:20when he comes out he will change the course of the pagans forever
12:24the long island pagans chapter is decimated when 34 members are convicted of extortion and conspiracy
12:34to commit murder including revered leader keith conan richter when i saw conan for the first time
12:42in greaterford i was like ah damn he's big we do know that guys can get very big in jail with dozens
12:49of new york pagans on the inside the power shifts to philadelphia and chapter president stephen
12:55montevergine aka gorilla gorilla he had been a police officer before he became a pagan gorilla is a big
13:03guy and he had a lot of presence and authority i had met gorilla a couple of times back in the day
13:12when i was working in philadelphia in the trade unions he could be your friend or he could be your
13:16worst nightmare gorilla is feared except by the hell's angels who are looking to take over the
13:22pagans flagship city in 2001 when gorilla is sent to the big house for racketeering the hell's angels
13:31pounce tom wood they called him thinker he was gorillas under man he was a great dude the hell's
13:41convinced thinker to do the unthinkable betray his oath of pagans forever forever
13:46pagans and become a hell's angel tom was the strong point a natural leader and they didn't
13:55want to be pagans anymore and they wanted to become hell's angels it's close to the ultimate sign of
14:00disrespect to join a rival group allegedly the pagans choose to retaliate at a massive hell's angel event
14:07attended by tom wood and other turncoats police say dozens were injured and one pagan from lancaster
14:14was killed when the pagans invaded a hell's angels tattoo expo a bunch of pagans smashed through the
14:20front door and started hitting people with axe handles pagan members have been defecting to the
14:26hell's angels pagan members took issue with that and decided to produce a show of force here my uncle was
14:33definitely front row for that he was right up there with them you know fighting with his brothers and he
14:38did quite the bid from that this biker blitzkrieg would go down in history as the hell raisers ball
14:45but the deadliest dog fight is still to come back in 2005 we were at war with the pagans
14:54as a flagrant fu to his old tribe a former pagan holds his hell's angels patch party at a known pagan
15:00hangout tom wood now the hell's angels vice president is in attendance we understand they were leaving a bar
15:08last night they were on their way down the schuylkill expressway when the shooting happened
15:12in trying to shield a fellow angel from a pair of gunmen wood takes a bullet to the head
15:17i went a lot of places with tom it was a hard time when he was murdered
15:24and he he might have been a pagan before but he was a true hell's angel sources now say wood may have
15:31been on a hit list compiled by the pagans all the names on the pagans hit list are former pagans
15:37themselves even after tom was murdered there were still ex-pagans that were hell's angels in
15:44philadelphia gorilla you know supposedly put a mark on all of them gorilla is questioned but no arrest is
15:52made to this day wood's murder remains unsolved a few years later gorilla catches charges and as he heads
16:00back to prison conan the barbarian gets out prison for criminals is their version of linkedin facebook
16:09or any other networking site out there for five years after his release conan moves up the pagan ranks
16:16finally he's reinstated as national sergeant at arms the sergeant at arms is usually a very violent
16:23individual they're the enforcer of the organization they're the ones that would go out and commit acts
16:28of violence for the club as national sergeant at arms conan is one of the 13 ruling pagans called the
16:34mother club conan didn't like the way that the club was uh misusing funds they were going into a
16:43direction where the club was losing its balls um best way i could put it so kind of part of the mother
16:51club and then at some point he decides to take over lancaster pennsylvania at the annual
16:58party held in honor of mailman the pagan who died at the hellraisers ball conan mounts a coup
17:05conan zip tied various guys on the mother club and basically threatened them my way the highway and
17:10those who chose not to were kicked out or forced to retire if you were there with conan the day that
17:19they forcefully took over the club you're giving up regulator patch
17:27from wiretap captured by rhode island state police news of conan's takeover travels like wildfire
17:33yeah they took over they put the out the mother out they threw them out the club
17:43you're like i'm the new man now when conan became president of the pagans in 2018
17:49he created what was called the blue wave the blue wave is what it sounds like a tidal wave this is a wave
17:55of pagans coming across the country the goal was for the pagans to supersede those other groups and
18:04to become the number one outlaw motorcycle gang in their turf the blue wave aggravated the beef with
18:12the hell's angels and the pagans because they wanted more territory for their self and the hell's angels
18:18didn't want them there conan went in and he says i'm going to add another bottom rocker and it's
18:25going to say east coast caught on wiretap and heard here for the first time on television conan details
18:31his plans for domination every state on the east coast that we're in is going to be ours we're going
18:37to be the largest big four club there rhode island mass jersey new york is going to be the toughest
18:43fight of all with national membership at about 300 pagans conan initiates new strategies to bolster
18:50numbers his idea was to go out to these smaller clubs and have the members join the pagans they
18:55were allowed to keep their own chapter but now they were the pagans patch i got so much going
18:59on bro i got so many people that want to come all the thunderguard indians i got the rock machine in
19:06west virginia i got booze fighters out in western pa five of them are mma fighters they all want to come
19:13with me we started seeing individuals in the pagans who clearly had uh street gang backgrounds who
19:20were members of bloods crips or even latin kings you got guys that are in street gangs coming in
19:27they don't even ride motorcycles conan even pulls guys out of retirement and reinstates them like the
19:33indomitable gorilla they were two great minds that came together in the motorcycle world
19:39and they just expanded overnight conan's most controversial recruitment method is known as
19:46cash for colors traditionally with the pagans you would have to prospect then you would earn your
19:52patch after a certain amount of time underneath conan bikers were allowed to just pay to get all
19:58three patches which is unheard of you never actually own the colors you rent them 600 gets a club and
20:05it's a hundred dollars a year to be in the club a membership fee conan chose quantity over quality
20:11so by lowering the standards he was now taking in members that maybe wouldn't have made a membership
20:18prior to him becoming president the pagans had always been a small elite force
20:22and some are enraged by conan's direction to the point of defection past president dennis rooster
20:30katona forms a new club called the sutar soldiers there are only so many ways to leave a group right
20:39if you're leaving the pagans and you're starting up a rival group you're pretty balls to the wall
20:44already you might as well name them sutar soldiers
20:47conan's goon squad shows no mercy for pagans who jump ship troy harris is 54 years old he is an
20:55engineer and he is a former pagan in 2018 harris joins the sutar soldiers and is appointed vice
21:02president respecting gang culture is very important there's been times i've been disrespected and you
21:11have to do something in order to save face one night troy is at a bar with his wife michelle having
21:17a drink the door opens and the pagans were all wearing colors in walked seven men in a direct
21:26single file line right up to troy harris troy extended his hand as if to shake and jason hoff punched
21:33him right in the side of the head then knocked him off his barstool in one fell swoop troy was on
21:38the floor and the men had surrounded him and were stomping and kicking him the pagans absolutely
21:45pummeled his brains in when we're thriving off violence it is an absolute adrenaline rush it's like
21:53a pack of wild dogs michelle harris had to crawl between the legs of the pagans who were actively
21:59kicking her husband to try to protect him
22:02just knowing that your brother is doing it with you it's kind of like like a father figure saying
22:10all right son it's okay when she finally got to him she found him lying in a pool of vomit and blood
22:18and threw her body on top of him saying really seriously to try to get them to leave him alone
22:25and one of them looked at her and responded the suit to our soldiers troy harris's injuries are so
22:32bad that he has to be airlifted to a trauma hospital shut them down wherever we are wherever
22:38we can you know what i mean they'll never be disrespectful
22:43conan's blue wave increases pagan membership exponentially you see those numbers that the
22:48pagans bring in whether it's support clubs whether it's membership wise those numbers are astronomical
22:55are we for law enforcement more pagans means one thing more problems high-speed police chase
23:04involving a member of one of the most well-known motorcycle gangs in the u.s pagan biker gang members
23:09reportedly beat an individual several times even conan himself has a run-in with police i'm the
23:16national prison yeah i was gonna say you're jefe i'm the el jefe we will have clubhouses everywhere
23:21and we will be everywhere so everybody needs to get used to it because i'm not going anywhere
23:26law enforcement is on edge especially since their history with the pagans is long and bloodstained
23:34in 1982 new jersey state trooper john jacobs initiated a vehicle stop in south jersey the driver
23:39of the vehicle was identified as glenn turner glennie turner was a very prominent member of the pagans
23:47glenn turner retrieved the handgun from his pocket opened fire on trooper jacobs the trooper's hands
23:52shoot up to protect his face but one of turner's bullets goes through jacobs palm striking him in
23:58the eye after the shooting the assailant reportedly abandoned his car in this field and set it on fire
24:03apparently to destroy evidence while jacobs fights for his life 100 fellow troopers search for turner
24:09as covered by the local news authorities get their man five days later turner offered no resistance when
24:16arrested he will be charged with attempted homicide aggravated assault and possession of a deadly
24:21weapon police believe jacobs interrupted a drug run at arraignment turner's bail is set for 150 000
24:28dollars turner then skipped bail and was on the run for approximately nine months during that period
24:34he became the number one fugitive in new jersey state turner is rearrested in chase city virginia and
24:40extradited to pennsylvania at trial the pagan takes the stand turner said he found himself shooting
24:46the trooper after the law enforcement officer saw a cigarette lighter with a pagan inscription
24:51he picked the letter up and looked up and said take it now what else you got stumbag the jury finds
24:57turner guilty judge leon wingate says it's sentencing my only regret is i can't impose a greater
25:02sentence than i'm going to impose right now because i think you deserve every bit of it every bit of
25:07it every year around that time of the anniversary clinty would send that cop a pair of glasses as a
25:13memento as you got shot in the face between law enforcement and conan's army tensions are at a fever pitch
25:21during the blue wave now there's more members out and about hanging out at local bars committing
25:26acts of violence things come to a head one night at a bar in pittsburgh on october 12th of 2018 right
25:38on the first page was an article claiming that four pagans had attacked the city of pittsburgh police
25:43officers at copey's bar something just didn't seem right there that day a chance encounter leads
25:48defense attorney martin deets to the bar's owner steve copey i walked into copey's bar and was handed a
25:55usb thumb drive with over 30 hours of video surveillance on it the video is savage a man
26:01is held by his hair as another lands 19 blows to his face the first time i saw the surveillance
26:08footage i assumed the pagans were the men assaulting the gentleman up against the bar shock
26:14waves ripple when it's discovered the pagans aren't the aggressors but the victims that night
26:20four undercover detectives posing as construction workers get drinks while surveilling a suspected drug
26:25dealer their target eventually left the bar and did not return however instead of ending their
26:30surveillance that night the police officers continue to sit at the bar and continue to consume alcohol
26:36on the video and corroborated by the pittsburgh citizens review board the bartender pours detective
26:41dave honick 13 to 15 doubles the equivalent of 30 shots of jack daniels i can't describe how somebody
26:49could consume that amount of alcohol and claim they're on duty and possessing a firearm the pagans
26:56arrive and retreat to the back room two detectives repeatedly try to engage the bikers pagans attitude
27:03towards law enforcement it's plain and simple a cap all cops are bastards my suspicion was they were
27:09investigating maybe not land the fish that we wanted to land but we may end up with four pagans which
27:15wow that would even be better in direct provocation detective honick flashes the firearm in his
27:20waistband at two of the pagans mike zikaides and frank deluca the officers were overheard yelling at
27:26the bar owner to throw the pagans out of the club which pissed the pagans off and made them want to throw
27:32out the cops who they didn't know were cops at that time then detective honick pokes the bear he puts his
27:40hands on the pagans vest the cut means everything to a pagan or any other motorcycle club member
27:49if someone disrespects you and touches your cut it's a problem uniformed officers arrive they attempt
27:57to defuse the situation demanding respect deluca shoves honick
28:09all hell breaks loose with deluca the main target
28:19you can hear one of the detectives screaming at him feel it
28:22it's unbelievable the video clearly shows that the uniformed officers actually
28:30maced two of the undercover detectives
28:41it was almost described later as if they couldn't help themselves but to antagonize
28:45and to interact with the pagans i don't want to say that law enforcement's a gang but certain law
28:51enforcement officers can seem to act that way i love being a cop
28:59these rogue cops no doubt acted with violence because that's what they expected from pagans
29:05when you deal with gangs or criminal organizations you'll find someone at the top is very very
29:09charismatic most of the time but they're also very violent and claims clearly capable violence
29:15violence violence is not just expected within the pagans it's actually rewarded for example if
29:22someone goes out and beats up a hell's angel or comes back with hell's angel patch they'll be rewarded
29:27with a tcb patch which stands for taking care of business the hell's angels and the pagans they both want
29:34to be the dominant motorcycle club wherever they are the hell's angels they believe wherever they go
29:40that's that's theirs as all do spring 2018 after leaving the hell's angels clubhouse jeffrey shank
29:47stops for gas and gets his ass beat the man slinging the pink baseball bat is hellboy conan's number
29:55one enforcer the exchange of blows between the hell's angels and pagans escalates turning deadly in the
30:02bronx the shooting was done by the notorious hell's angels gang in retaliation after their throgs neck
30:07headquarters was shot at back in january by the pagans motorcycle gang whom rosado was the leader
30:15in the pagans you're gonna either end up in prison serving life or you're gonna end up in the graveyard
30:21aware of the ongoing feud investigators immediately suspect the hell's angels in the murder of pagan
30:27president francisco rosado problem being they don't know which hell's angels a lot of other cases you
30:34have video and you can see the face of the shooter it's just two masked people shooting rosado with no
30:40facial id bronx pd follows the one thing they can the blue jeep that was at the scene the nypd painstakingly
30:48scours the 49th precinct to obtain video surveillance from homes commercial buildings
30:56from mta buses to follow this blue jeep the blue jeep pulls into an outdoor parking lot surveillance
31:03footage shows the driver switching cars and leaving in a black ram from a license plate reader in the
31:08area cops get the plate of the black ram and it is registered to frank tatuli immediately he's becoming
31:14the suspect detectives pull the phone records of suspect frank loose cannon tatuli one number appears
31:21again and again fellow hell's angels cyanon thung thwart the turning point was a space was rented for
31:28that jeep by two masked people and when they rented that parking lot spot they provided a burner phone
31:34number that phone number was activated at a mall in valley stream long island cell site information of
31:39thong thwart's phone tracks him going from his house in queens to valley stream he's there at the
31:46exact same time that that burner phone was purchased at that mall and thong thwart's phone and the burner
31:51phone travel together right up to the gun hill road parking lot and then it's just the burner phone
31:58on may 2nd going to the murder scene so now we have our second suspect with the two assailants identified
32:05nypd executes a sweep of the hell's angels clubhouse and the homes of tatuli and thong thwart at tatuli's
32:12residence they find a shotgun and a loaded firearm they also found a fisherman's hat and some hiking boots
32:22which matched video surveillance of one of the shooters of mr risotto when i was hell's angel we had
32:29what we called the 187 bag black sneakers black sweatpants black sweatshirts you had to take care
32:36of something that black bag went in the burn went in the river wherever these dudes were the dumbest
32:42sumbitches ever tatuli and thong thwart are convicted of murder in the second degree but the feds have a
32:50bigger issue the hell's angels view the pagans as such a threat they are taking them out the dea was aware of
32:57this and now we started looking into the pagans the dea receives intelligence that a member of a local
33:04new jersey motorcycle gang is selling narcotics toll analysis on this individual's phone showed he was
33:10also talking to the sergeant in arms for the elizabeth chapter of the pagans junius akino aka jl once we got
33:18up on akino's phone that would open the door to other wiretaps within the pagans little do the feds know
33:24this investigation will lead them to the head of the snake
33:32the dea atf and two other agencies form a joint task force to investigate drug trafficking within
33:38the pagans typically when we do a drug investigation especially a wiretap investigation we're looking to
33:44work our way into the organization work our way up the chain we're looking to gather information on
33:49what kind of drugs they're trafficking quantities weights so we start with a low-level member in
33:55this case it was jl he was low level in terms of the amount of drugs he distributed he had sources
34:02that he obtained his drugs from so now we move on to those sources to gain access for electronic
34:07surveillance the dea submits a title three affidavit to the judge once we actually get approval from a
34:13judge to listen to somebody's phone that's when it just hits off you have to listen to the phone
34:19calls the players involved you can't listen to every phone call we have parameters to abide by
34:25the conversation has to be narcotics related so if he's talking to his girlfriend or something like
34:31that then we would have to do what's called minimization if somebody's talking to somebody and
34:35you clearly know it's not about drug trafficking we can minimize that phone call and then we can go
34:40back on and double check for example in the movie casino there was a scene where robert de niro's
34:45character and joe pesi's character needed to talk so what they did to get around the minimization
34:49was they had the wives contact each other and after a certain period when they felt the fbi minimize
34:55they then jumped on the phone yeah give me a tree whoa caesars 100 yards further down the road
35:03why don't ask questions just be there when they were done they gave the phone back to the wives and
35:07they can continue their food conversation
35:17through surveillance and wiretaps the feds learn that joe's supplier is a pagan named nicholas
35:22bucciarelli nicholas bucciarelli was a sergeant of arms for a south jersey pagan chapter
35:28he was known to traffic in methamphetamine so we went on to his phone and we're trying to identify
35:33who his horse's supply is because that's a way to get higher up into the organization bucciarelli's
35:38source is none other than new jersey's most wanted glenn turner criminal background checks showed that
35:45he was arrested and ultimately convicted for shooting new jersey state trooper john jacobs
35:49that gives us a little extra motivation to show that he was not rehabilitated in prison that once he
35:53was released from prison he went back to his pagan lifestyle a search warrant is ordered for a now 72
35:59year old glenn turner there's no age to gang banging there's no age of criminality you do what
36:04you do and you kind of fall into a cycle that you know becomes second nature glenn turner was big
36:09drug dealer when we arrested him he had close to 500 grams of meth in his residence this notable arrest
36:15calls for historic handcuffs we understand that the atf and the dea when they arrested glennie turner
36:21that they had gotten a hold of trooper jacobs handcuffs to place him on glenn turner turner is
36:28charged with possession and intent to distribute he passes away before serving time probably one of the
36:34biggest funeral details that i've done so far glennie turner he's the old school brother take no
36:40shit very funny guy can be very violent if he needed to be just like all of us he's just an all-around
36:46good guy to me but people get different shades of you right you look over at the entrance of the
36:53funeral home and it's jam-packed full of pagans support clubs other one percent clubs just waiting to
37:02go into the funeral home pay respects it was a sad day brothers were kind of like disbelief because it's like
37:09not jesus dying it would have been like one of his his uh disciples turner is one of 10 pagans
37:15the dea builds a case against but they still have nothing on conan i want to charge this guy with
37:23the biggest charge out there i want to get him in jail for the longest amount of time
37:27but you can't get there and that's frustrating and then they hear something similar to what conan said
37:34years ago in this investigation we were fortunate enough to jump up many phones to the right phone
37:52and that phone being conan what's the matter you weren't having fun no i was tired man all right
37:58i got to wake you up you need to come back i got the special m vitamin m now we've just intercepted
38:06the president of the pagans in the drug-related conversation the feds have what they need to
38:11slap a wiretap on conan's phone we conduct an investigation to any criminal organization this
38:17case the pagans we're trying to establish the most serious charges we can an individual
38:21but the investigation takes us where it takes us where it takes the feds is back to the annual
38:25party for fallen pagan mailman the same event where conan mounted an insurrection three years earlier
38:32we had him followed from long island all the way to pennsylvania and we had agents and officers out
38:37there while he was at the meeting during the course of the meeting we developed intelligence that showed
38:42that he was carrying a weapon at the time conan is a previously convicted felon he's not legally
38:47allowed to possess a firearm once we hear that a weapon's in play it changes everything because
38:55we cannot take the risk that somebody gets injured with that weapon after midnight conan
39:01leaves the meeting in a white gmc driven by a fellow pagan as they pass into new jersey cruise
39:07lights and sirens erupt as a supervisor i'm monitoring the radio communications of what's going
39:13on during the stop and my biggest concern is always the safety of the individuals and what can go wrong
39:18obviously there is a weapon in the car the pagans do have a propensity to shoot that police troopers
39:23toss the car dea instructs them to search for traps a trap is a hidden compartment used by drug trafficking
39:32organizations traps are to conceal criminal products whether it's drugs and the money associated with them
39:39in a hollowed out compartment below the center console authorities recover a loaded ruger p345 45
39:47caliber handgun there was another person in that vehicle and we knew we had to connect that gun to
39:53conan period we had to make sure that he had his fingerprints on that gun at this point the decision
40:00was made not to arrest conan because we wanted to make sure we had a solid charge on him the gun was
40:04then transferred to the atf lab where it was analyzed for fingerprints lab techs lift a clean print they
40:12run it through the atf's fingerprint database of convicted criminals and get a hit keith richter
40:22in the end of february in 2021 we executed a search warrant on cohen's house
40:27the residence is a very nice well-kept home in the middle class neighborhood and it's a shrine to the
40:32pagans every room has pagan memorabilia pictures flags even the toilet seat was pagans conan is
40:40cooperative as he's taken into custody wearing a pagan forever forever pagan sweatshirt arresting
40:47conan at the end of the day for a felon in possession of a weapon is almost similar to like al capone
40:53getting arrested for tax evasion it's not the charge we wanted but it was a charge that we had
41:02with conan's prince on the gun the feds case against keith richter is a slam dunk at conan sentencing
41:10the judge made a comment that he actually likes conan i've never seen a judge say that about anybody
41:16before but i do understand to a certain extent conan's a very charismatic individual he was
41:21cooperative during the court sessions despite his full charm offense conan is sentenced to 33 months
41:28this caused a huge disruption within the pagan organization now the president was not able to
41:33lead for three years this victory for the feds only happened because of the call that tipped them off
41:39when conan got busted it was because of a confidential informant not just any informant some believe
41:46conan was betrayed by another member of the mother club another 13 called the feds and told them that
41:53there's a gun in the car if you can't trust the people that are around you then you're you're doomed
41:57to fail conan will be released in june of 2025 i think the position is being held until he gets
42:07released conan is an extreme threat to society and civilians when conan gets out he'll have a score to
42:12settle somebody in his own regime put him back in jail so he's got something he's got to handle when he gets
42:20out after that will gerald the tank tanaglia the current president cede the throne or will conan
42:28reclaim it with force conan's going to step up i think he's going to not only create a blue wave
42:34again throughout the united states but he's also going to try to form chapters outside of the united states
42:43the worst case scenario when conan gets out is that he comes in and he starts a war with the hell's
42:47angels there's a good chance that citizens will be caught in the crossfire and become collateral
42:53damage i think this whole thing between the pagans and the hell's angels is going to come to a head
42:59soon the truth of the matter is people will die when that war starts on both sides the patch is just
43:06a patch it's just a piece of fabric but you got people out there they'll kill for it you'll kill you
43:11for it conan's blue wave is more like a tsunami current membership is well over 2 000 pagans
43:19i cover these events and every time i'm out there i'm taking pictures i'm like these guys the blue
43:24waves still waving it's not slowing down i definitely was looking for a feeling of acceptance and being
43:31wanted and feeling involved in like some kind of family kind of aspect so about 13 years ago um
43:39decided to turn crip i guess it did may help me understand my dad a little bit more yeah
43:43it's the same fellowship lou dopkin was seeking when he founded the pagans all those years ago
43:48in the end that's all we've got in this life each other and when we forget that when we turn on our own
43:58well that's when the real tragedy begins and it's the same feeling conan has today as long as you're
44:04doing good for the nation i don't give a if i can't stand you i don't know if i don't let as long as
44:10you're doing good for this nation i love the out of you because that's all i care about is the
44:14the pagans won't look up nothing else