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00:00Namaskar Acharya Ji and you've talked of Mukti so I would like to know is it a Mukti from life
00:11and birth or I mean more if you can elaborate Mukti from internal compulsions the goal of life
00:22can be talked of as Mukti which is liberation which is also called freedom so if freedom is the goal
00:34of life surely we are presupposing bondage right without bondage there can be no question of freedom
00:42liberation Mukti so that's what the freedom is from all kinds of compulsions the deeper level as you
01:00say or we read that Mukti from to be desireless to be detached and finally like in it's mentioned in the
01:17scriptures I mean like you know through I mean how to express it I mean to be the final ultimate goal
01:34of every human being though we have been given birth is to free from the this cycle of birth and rebirth
01:42and that is the ultimate it is not the next is it that's what is my queries yeah it is not your next
01:49birth that troubles you it is the bondages that you experience in this birth let the mic be there
01:56she's communicating it is the bondages that you experience in this birth right here that's what
02:04troubles you who's experiencing troubles related to the next birth please tell me and all of us
02:12others indeed do have troubles what are your troubles about here this so that's the compulsion we carry to
02:25entertain troubles to not to drop them to think that we are helpless in the matter of troubles that's what
02:40liberation is liberation is liberation is not about the previous birth or the next birth liberation is
02:46freedom from the bondages that you experience right now and the experiencer of the bondage is herself the
03:00bondage there is no objective bondage the one who experiences bondages is herself in illusion so you could also put it as
03:15freedom from illusion or ignorance we do not know who we are therefore we feel obliged to keep suffering
03:26in trouble once you put on some random dubious fake identity you'll have to do everything that the identity demands of you
03:40correct none of these identities is real and therefore the compulsions attached to those identities are not obligatory that's liberation
03:53the question is how is life with desires yeah you know it you're asking how would be life without desires that's that's too much of speculation
04:21the question shouldn't the question be how is life with desires how is life with desires and when you see that then you say
04:30whatsoever is the alternative is acceptable anything but this also a state of desirousness is a state of ignorance we do not know
04:49who we know who we are therefore we desire for the wrong entity see our desires never fulfill us what does that mean that means our desires are for somebody else
05:03metaphorically put you're doing something that does not fulfill you so surely the fruits of your action are benefiting somebody else they are not benefiting you
05:15so you so you do not want to rush after these desires you say fine fine fine fine fine stop these and i am in a state of ignorance when i am desirous in this state of ignorance if i try to speculate
05:39how life would be without desire what would be the quality of my speculation i am drunk let's say i am drunk i am drunk i am drunk i am drunk in this state i cannot make head or tail of anything correct and you come to me and preach the virtues of abstinence and
06:09you say don't drink and in my drunken state i say but i want to understand what would be the benefits of not drinking what is the problem with this question what is the problem with this question it comes from a drunken state
06:27in a drunken state i am asking what would be the benefits i will get if i do not drink sir even you will know but please get sober so in a desirous state i ask what would be the benefits of dropping desire
06:47no no no answer would be relevant how do we navigate through what
06:57okay so basically i'll you know i'll expand it on your example i'm drunk and instead of asking you know what are the
07:17benefits of not drinking i'm asking how do i navigate it like you know how do i you just stumbled look at your knee that's how you navigate
07:24you're drunk so what happens to you what happens to you when you're drunk you're not walking straight yeah and then you fall and you fall and you bleed yeah yeah look at your knee that's how you navigate look at your pain acknowledge your suffering
07:45so like suffering is like you said fulfilling life so what if suffering is fulfilling acknowledge don't inflict acknowledge there is a difference between creating suffering and acknowledging that you are already suffering
08:07and and that's hard right and that's the reason most people prefer to rather live false lives because if they acknowledge their real state it pains it's like being like being out of sedation when you are sedated you don't feel pain right or when you are anesthetized you don't feel pain so people choose to
08:37remain on sedation on tranquilizers on such things so if i you know i acknowledge the pain what do i do then then there is a natural thing within you that seeks joy and will drop pain
08:55we are not born to live in pain our nature is joy and that's the reason why we all rush towards that poor proxy called happiness because happiness to an extent seems like joy in both joy and happiness there is an absence of sorrow
09:19so we rush towards happiness because it appears a bit like joy though happiness is not at all joy happiness is just a shady cousin of sorrow but we rush towards it because it looks like joy so your nature is joy the moment you acknowledge pain you'll find yourself dropping it
09:41okay and in that lies your freedom in that lies the power of choice you can drop your pain and pain is not compulsory you are not mandated to live a life of suffering
10:03if you suffer that's a choice you have inflicted on yourself and you can reverse that choice
10:11we we we we all have the the liberty rather an internal obligation to bring ourselves to a to a joyous state
10:25a state a state of complete bloom that's what we are born for right you look at a flower
10:31how do you feel about a flower that that remained a bird or got nipped in the bird or flowered but incompletely
10:42you don't feel good right you want it to bloom fully that's what is the purpose of life
10:50full bloom and it's therefore quite tragic if we pass away without expressing ourselves blooming fully
11:03actually living reaching your utmost potential dropping your your last bondages
11:12okay i have another question i'm really sorry about this but uh it's okay it's okay it's related to this
11:24so uh you know we were talking about desires and uh like you know how it should like we should live
11:30without desires and like my love it my desire can be like i want to be the ex the most excellent person
11:38yeah the best person in this field so it is a desire and you know it kind of contradicts it
11:46my life won't have any meaning without dropping desire is not the objective when you are an unfulfilled
11:57person to begin with how can you not have desire the thing is to have a sane desire
12:03desire i'm sick my desire should be for a doctor not a dancer not a joker so desire the right thing
12:17desire the right thing and have an intense desire for the right thing
12:23wisdom is not about being desireless in the first go itself no we all rather need desire
12:32desire but we need desire that proves good that's of some utility if your desire ends up troubling you
12:42all the more what good is the desire you can be a slave to the desire if it's the right desire in fact
12:52you must be a slave to the right desire desire rightly and immerse yourself totally in your desire
12:59give yourself up surrender sir my question is how we control our emotions in a difficult situation and
13:08we maintain our life and peacefully ma'am mostly our emotions are not our own they are so pattern based
13:17so pattern based if you just recall what made you angry the last time just the recall will make you angry
13:26again just try to recall what embarrassed you the last time just the recall will embarrass you again
13:39there is there is nothing but a pattern so they are not your emotions it's like having a button that
13:49somebody anybody randomly can come and just push is there any spiritual practice to control our emotions
13:59just tell yourself that's not me that's not my emotion my address yourself not your I I need your suggestion
14:10actually that's a suggestion address yourself not as I but as let's say manju hmm what's your name please
14:18my name is Shoma lady mallik fine so Shoma address yourself by your name and say Shoma you are at it again
14:27it's happening again and it's not you it's automatic let it happen you don't need to participate you don't need to
14:39participate let it happen you don't need to be a part of it if it's if it's prakritic if it's hormonal
14:47if it's bodily it will happen what can I do it's bound to happen it's a part of my physical constitution
14:54but I need not participate in the happening I'll I'll stay at an arm's length and just see what is happening
15:03sometimes other stimulus are disturbed us outside stimulus there is disturbance but not to you
15:12and in this situation how we control our emotion it is also my question
15:19how can it be difficult to to see that it's all so mechanical there is a word that you despise
15:40there's a word that you despise let's say I abhor being called ugly
15:45after the tenth time I am called ugly
15:52I should become impervious to the word ugly
15:57I should become totally non-reactive indifferent
16:01because now I know what's happening okay ugly thank you
16:05I mean I have seen how the whole thing operates like an electric circuit
16:13right there is there is the switch took to
16:18this is this is so obvious and so foolhardy how long can I participate in this
16:24so after a point one just drops out and says I don't see any point being a part of all this
16:30in fact if you want to play a game with yourself
16:36predict yourself
16:39predict yourself
16:41for example you know somebody you are totally mad on
16:49is going to come to you and you are already steaming hot
16:55you are very angry
16:57and now the doorbell rings
17:00and you tell yourself
17:01now you know what will happen I will open the gate and shout
17:04predict yourself
17:07the more you see how predictable you are
17:10the more you see how mechanical you are
17:12because only machines can be predicted
17:14only machines can be programmed
17:15if you can predict your behavior your reactions in advance
17:20then you know that you are just a lump of chemicals hormones
17:24circuits
17:26and that's not what consciousness is
17:29consciousness is supposed to be free
17:32right
17:32an electric circuit is not free
17:35chemical reactions are not free
17:38sodium and potassium cannot decide whether to react with water
17:44they are constrained to react
17:47do you want to be just a chemical
17:50a chemical that is obliged to act in certain ways
17:54there is freedom then
17:56predict yourself
17:59predict yourself
18:02and then defy the prediction
18:04so I was supposed to be angry
18:07I didn't get angry
18:09one zero
18:12self one
18:15hormones
18:16zero
18:17so keep the score
18:19so the hormones are imbalanced
18:27I am not imbalanced
18:29I am not my body
18:34so how can I be the hormones
18:36so how can I be the hormones
18:37You