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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:15You know the biggest news, Pakistan's first legitimate Field Marshal has come.
00:22General Asim Munir has been appointed as Field Marshal.
00:26He has honoured India by winning the Markaz-e-Haq.
00:32He has also been promoted to the position of AFO Chief.
00:36No details have been given as to how much he has been promoted or not.
00:40But this is a solid answer for India as well.
00:43Do you remember that in 1972, India had appointed General Manikshaw as Field Marshal.
00:49To show that he has done such a great job.
00:52Today, he has been honoured.
00:54There is one more important news.
00:56It is not a big news, but it is a very big news.
00:59A few years ago, there was a heinous murder of Noor Mukaddam in Islamabad.
01:04His entire country was shaken.
01:08His accused, Zahid Jaffer, was sentenced to death by the High Court.
01:12The case went on.
01:14Today, the Supreme Court has withdrawn his appeal.
01:17Now, he is condemned to death.
01:19Now, he has only one option left.
01:21He has to appeal to the President of Pakistan.
01:24I don't think that any President of Pakistan can even think of apologising in this case.
01:29But anyway, we are glad that he too has been sentenced to death in this country.
01:34And he has indeed been sentenced to death.
01:36Now, let's come to this promotion.
01:39There will be some legal questions as to what his status will be.
01:45When he was first elected, Ayub Khan himself promoted himself as the President.
01:50He made himself the Field Marshal.
01:52That is why I said that this is the first legislature that the government has made.
01:56Then, he made his Commander-in-Chief, General Musa Khan.
01:59And then, the system continued.
02:01Now, some questions are arising as to what his legal status will be.
02:06Because the position of the Field Marshal is considered to be an honor.
02:12It is also considered to be an honorary rank.
02:15And perhaps, it is not considered to be in service.
02:17This is an 800-year-old tradition in the world in which Field Marshals have been appointed.
02:24There have been more than 100 Field Marshals in the British Army.
02:26And there have been more than 60-70 Field Marshals in the Russian Army.
02:30So, it is nothing new.
02:32As for Pakistan, I am asking this because in 2016,
02:36an application was moved to the Islamabad High Court.
02:40In which, they requested that General Raheel Sharif should be appointed as the Field Marshal.
02:49In that, the High Court said that there is no such scope in our law.
02:53So, we cannot say that.
02:55And we cannot ask the government to legislate for any purpose.
02:59So, what will be the legal status?
03:02Will there be debates as to whether the service term will end or not?
03:07Will the appointment be finalized?
03:10How will all these things proceed?
03:12We will talk about this as well.
03:13But the biggest thing is that it is a matter of great joy.
03:16And the only surprising thing for me is that we did not hear any announcement from the Naval Chief.
03:22I think that he should be there as well.
03:23Because our Naval Force was also ready in the same way.
03:27And they had stopped their aircraft from going behind.
03:29Obviously, the collision was of the Army and the Air Force.
03:34But maybe that's on the cards also.
04:04How do you see this appointment?
04:07Is it just an honorary rank or are all the details being considered to be confidential?
04:18Look, some people may not be able to digest this.
04:26So, they are making such allegations.
04:33However, there has been a turning point.
04:36True.
04:37In that turning point, the armed forces of Pakistan,
04:42the leadership of the armed forces,
04:45have defended such a courageous country effectively.
04:54And a force that was telling us the stories of Gaza a few days ago
05:02and was telling us that Israel did this and Netanyahu did that.
05:09So, they defended effectively.
05:11And the whole nation was involved in that.
05:14All segments were involved.
05:17You can take the government, politicians, media,
05:22social media, vloggers.
05:26Everyone played their role in their own way.
05:31But the people who were in this market were General Asim Munir.
05:40So, when the nation and the country got so much respect and status,
05:46and after 1971, I think it was the first time
05:51that the whole nation felt proud of this market.
06:01So, the people who were involved in this,
06:04the whole nation felt this.
06:09The whole nation acknowledged this.
06:12So, to recognize this,
06:15the highest honor of an army has been given to them.
06:22By receiving this honor,
06:26it will not affect their employment or the duration of their employment.
06:31This is an honor and this honor will remain with them in their life as well.
06:39And honors are like this.
06:41No matter how many honors you give to someone like Pride of Performance,
06:45or Stara-e-Jurat, or Halal-e-Imtiaz,
06:48it is an honor and that honor is always with that person,
06:54with that personality who has served the nation.
07:00And the nation, the government has acknowledged him as an acknowledgement.
07:09So, it remains with them.
07:10So, this is an honor that will remain with General Asim Muneer Sahib
07:17as long as he is in employment, both then and after that.
07:23So, the government will not have to do any special legislation?
07:29Because I was looking at the Islamabad High Court,
07:31I am asking because we will not have to do any special legislation?
07:37No, you are confusing it.
07:42The High Court did not say this, as you are understanding.
07:47This honor is present in the Provision Army Act to give this honor.
07:55Okay.
07:56And under that, the government can give this honor.
08:00The government has given this honor to General Asim Muneer Sahib.
08:04What the High Court said at that time, what you have said,
08:08that we cannot say to the government to do this type of legislation or this type of decision.
08:16That is correct.
08:17There is no such law.
08:19No, no, because in that decision,
08:21It is not that the High Court cannot order this.
08:26They said that because there is no mention of this position in our constitution,
08:31that is why they said that we cannot say that you are absolutely right.
08:34No, no, there is a mention of this.
08:38Okay.
08:39There is a mention of this in the Army Act.
08:42They said that there is no such law that the High Court,
08:47that there is any honor, be it the level of bravery or the pride of performance,
08:55there is no such law that the High Court can give this kind of direction to the government.
09:02The Army Chief of the Army Staff will be the same, he will be the one to head the active
09:16command.
09:17Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
09:24The Army Chief of the Army Staff will be the same, he will be the one to head the active
09:31command.
09:32Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
09:37Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
09:42Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
09:48Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:18Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:25Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:32Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:37Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:42Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:47Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:52Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
10:57Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
11:02Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
11:07Just like he made Ayub Khan a CNC, he doesn't need it, this structure will remain the same.
11:12Revisions and constitutionally it is all covered.
11:15This is given as a respect.
11:19Extra generals are also made many times.
11:22When the Chief of Army Staff was in Pakistan during the time of Marshal Allah,
11:27there were also Vice Chief of Army Staff.
11:29They were also four star generals.
11:31General Zia, General Sawar, etc.
11:34There were many vice chiefs.
11:36The purpose is that the functioning and war making.
11:39The most important thing for the viewers of Pakistan is that we are still in the condition of war.
11:47We have won it.
11:49And when the war is fighting, the team is set up, the procedures are in place,
11:53because he is privy to many things.
11:55He was leading from the front.
11:56And the all spectrum, all domain of war,
11:59this is just a military army, then air force, navy,
12:02after that there was an application in the middle of cyber,
12:04in the next centric,
12:06so the complete application of hybrid was being monitored.
12:10So this is basically the work done by the war machine,
12:13the result produced for the state,
12:15they have been given a respect in its honor.
12:17And the rest of the functioning,
12:19Technically there will be no difference.
12:20There will be no difference.
12:21I am sure that things will unfold in the future,
12:24but he will continue as the Chief of the Army Staff.
12:26That is more important.
12:27Mr. Rana, please tell us.
12:29There was some new clarity.
12:31It is written in the document that the Chiefs of the Air Force
12:34have been increased in terms of employment.
12:38It is not said how much,
12:40whether it will be one or two years when their retirement date will be,
12:43or a full term.
12:45Is there any clarity on this?
12:49Look, in that,
12:51their services and
12:53giving them respect,
12:56it has been said that
12:58their retirement,
13:00probably next year,
13:02in March or April,
13:04after that,
13:06this thing is present in the law,
13:08that in any rank,
13:11if there is anyone,
13:14then the government,
13:16the government has this right,
13:18that it can retain him,
13:21for further,
13:23it can also tenure him,
13:25it can do it for one year,
13:27when there will be a notification,
13:29then in that,
13:31all the details will be there,
13:33but at this time,
13:35it has been decided that
13:37their term of employment,
13:39which will be completed next year,
13:41after that also,
13:43they will be retained.
13:45Okay, one thing,
13:47apart from this,
13:49there is one more decision which is not being discussed,
13:51that all those who,
13:53at the operational level,
13:55at the leading level,
13:57at different places,
13:59they have done these services,
14:01in this market,
14:03they have taken part,
14:05in giving this nation,
14:07this respect,
14:09that is their role,
14:11so all of them will be given
14:13the privileges,
14:15which are different privileges,
14:17like courage,
14:19distinction,
14:21so all these things,
14:23will be included,
14:25other people will also be included,
14:27so this is also decided by the government,
14:29cabinet.
14:31But sir, cabinet,
14:33I don't think they have done any injustice,
14:35cabinet has forgotten the navy.
14:37No, the navy will be included,
14:39that is,
14:41the decision of these privileges,
14:43in that, air force, navy,
14:45and army,
14:47all the level of leadership,
14:49and soldiers,
14:51you see,
14:53someone,
14:55in the plane,
14:57someone was sitting,
14:59who dropped Rafale,
15:01and other planes,
15:03in the same way,
15:05I was asking because,
15:07someone has taken part,
15:09all of them,
15:11I was asking about the navy,
15:13they also scared the Indian navy,
15:15and kept it behind,
15:17because you made general sir field marshal,
15:19the air force chief also got an extension,
15:21so you forgot the naval chief,
15:23you should have done something with him too,
15:25no,
15:27as I have said,
15:29the decision of privileges,
15:31in that,
15:33including the naval chief,
15:35all the other people will be included.
15:37It's time, Mr. Chaudhary,
15:39stay with us for the break.
15:41Welcome back.
15:43In the last week of December,
15:45I do a program every year,
15:47in which,
15:49I don't say astrologer,
15:51I say,
15:53those who study stars,
15:55we ask them,
15:57about different personalities,
15:59how will their next year be.
16:01In 2025,
16:03that astrologer,
16:05Samia Khan,
16:07listen to her statement,
16:09then I will take your comment on it,
16:11listen to what she said,
16:13this is about December 2024.
16:15Who is Hafiz sir?
16:17I said,
16:19he looks like a real patriot,
16:21because he was born in Jupiter 9 house,
16:23I said,
16:25I think,
16:27he can win the lottery,
16:29later I came to know,
16:31that he is Hafiz sir,
16:33and this year,
16:35he is going to be 100% solid,
16:37and this year,
16:39he is going to be 100% solid,
16:41and one thing,
16:43Mr. Malik is saying on his platform,
16:45may God keep my respect for this prediction,
16:47the fame,
16:49the good name,
16:51which is coming in his share,
16:53no other general has got it,
16:55till date.
16:57Mr. Rana,
16:59her prediction is correct,
17:01first,
17:03he became a field marshal,
17:05but when it comes to stars,
17:07tell me,
17:09the stars are going very high,
17:11what will be the effect of this star on Imran Khan's stars?
17:15See,
17:17when he was the Prime Minister,
17:19such predictions were made about him,
17:21the year,
17:23when he retired,
17:25so before the start of that year,
17:27predictions about him,
17:29were very good,
17:31and he,
17:33once,
17:35said in his speech,
17:37that a stone,
17:39was falling down from the mountain,
17:41so,
17:43someone came and
17:45removed it,
17:47and under that stone,
17:49the government,
17:51at that time,
17:53Mr. Shahbaz Shahbaz was the Prime Minister,
17:55so he came and fell under that stone.
17:57So, these are all predictions.
17:59Anyways,
18:01the thing is,
18:03Allah gives respect to whom He wants,
18:05and takes away from whom He wants.
18:07Today,
18:09those people will be very upset,
18:11who,
18:13instead of giving respect to Asim Muneer,
18:15instead of calling him a bad person,
18:17they have wasted a lot of time.
18:19So,
18:21this is the work of Allah,
18:23Allah gives respect to whom He wants,
18:25and humiliation to whom He wants.
18:27Sir, tell me one thing,
18:29now that you are here,
18:31it is not possible that you don't talk about politics.
18:33There are a lot of talks going on,
18:35that maybe there is a conversation going on,
18:37or maybe not,
18:39but Mr. Irfan Siddiqui said,
18:41there is no conversation going on.
18:43I said, let me ask you,
18:45is there a conversation going on anywhere,
18:47between the establishment and Imran Khan?
18:49No,
18:51the establishment,
18:53they are not ready to talk to anyone.
18:57I mean,
18:59you see,
19:01I think it has only been 6-7 days,
19:03I think it was 9 or 8 May,
19:07the Prime Minister,
19:09even 4 months ago,
19:11on the floor of the house,
19:13said to him,
19:15come, sit, talk,
19:17we are ready to talk to you on any issue.
19:19Whatever he said later,
19:21you are aware of that.
19:23Now, 6-7 days ago,
19:25the Prime Minister,
19:27addressing the National Assembly,
19:29said on the floor of the house,
19:31we are ready to talk to you,
19:33come, sit,
19:35for the betterment of this country,
19:37for the betterment of this nation,
19:39for national unity,
19:41come, sit, talk,
19:43and solve political issues.
19:45He said, you are always sitting
19:47with the Speaker,
19:49you come there,
19:51I also come there,
19:53we will sit there and talk.
19:55So, the thing is,
19:57they are not understanding this.
19:59Today, they have come together,
20:01they have come together,
20:03and they have said,
20:05for the betterment of the country,
20:07I am ready to talk to the establishment.
20:09Not to you, to the establishment.
20:11Ok, then fine,
20:13talk to the establishment,
20:15the establishment is not ready to talk to them.
20:17DGISPR,
20:19twice,
20:21in fact, twice or thrice,
20:23they have said that,
20:25negotiating is
20:27with the political parties.
20:29It is not our mandate.
20:31You sit with each other,
20:33talk, solve the issues,
20:35we will be happy.
20:37Mr. General,
20:39tell me, these things that have happened,
20:41and,
20:43the army always had a problem,
20:45before this war, this is a reality,
20:47it was divided, there were political issues,
20:49everything was there.
20:51Now, we have got such a great honor,
20:53you have been made a field marshal,
20:55everything will be there.
20:57Do you think,
20:59this is a temporary phase,
21:01or do you think,
21:03it will be a drastic shift of people's opinion?
21:05Look,
21:07Mr. Malik,
21:09I will quickly issue a law,
21:11which we will discuss first,
21:13so that we can end this discussion here.
21:15The honor of being a field marshal,
21:17is a recognition of the services in the war.
21:19There is nothing more than this.
21:21There are no powers,
21:23that extra powers have been given,
21:25or extra things have been done.
21:27Mr. Rana has also said,
21:29there is no difference between term and shame.
21:31In this discussion, many people will comment,
21:33that this will happen, that will happen,
21:35because we are conspiracy theorists,
21:37and there is a chance for the nation to be divided.
21:39War is on.
21:41So, seriously, we have to guard,
21:43that the unity of the nation,
21:45is very important.
21:47You have said that this is temporary.
21:49If this is temporary,
21:51then in this protracted environment,
21:53the application of Hindutva or RSS,
21:55and now the proxies have to increase.
21:57Because now,
21:59they have to fully invest on the proxies.
22:01The RSS, that Sheikhi Shankar,
22:03if you call his foreign minister,
22:05the hubristic, exactly like Modi,
22:07that is also going on.
22:09So, now that also depends on whom?
22:11Ehsanullah Ehsan, of TTP.
22:13And he writes such excellent English.
22:15If I had known this,
22:17when he was in this area,
22:19Ehsanullah Ehsan, they are talking
22:21with the Israeli people.
22:23And they are discussing
22:25to remove a proxy from Kabul,
22:27not Afghanistan, but Kabul.
22:29They are animating.
22:31They have started with Afghanistan,
22:33because they have also used missiles.
22:35They have also tried to fight them.
22:37Along with that, they have also started
22:39the Khalistan movement.
22:41But India is creating so many problems,
22:43that its fallout has to come to Pakistan.
22:45And all this has to come
22:47to its domain.
22:49Even today, there are attacks
22:51on some important sites of Pakistan.
22:53Every day, there are cyber attacks.
22:55So, in the cyber domain,
22:57in every domain.
22:59So, if Pakistan remains temporary
23:01and does not win,
23:03then we are again under a serious challenge.
23:05If someone from within Pakistan
23:07or outside of Pakistan,
23:09whoever will try to weaken
23:11this union of the people and the army,
23:13from within and without,
23:15will be considered as enemy of Pakistan.
23:17We need to understand this.
23:19The people need to understand this.
23:21Some will be doing it wittingly,
23:23and some will be involved unwittingly.
23:25So, let's not debate on this temporarily.
23:27This is the time for celebration.
23:29This is the time to move forward.
23:31Manek Shah 1971.
23:33As it is said, we have taken revenge
23:35of 1971, now we have to take many more revenges.
23:37We have to take revenge of the martyrs
23:39of Jaffar Express train.
23:41We have to take revenge of the children of APS.
23:43We have to take revenge of Tezaz.
23:45We have to take revenge of Uzair.
23:47They are saying that India has just shown a trailer.
23:49The movie is still remaining.
23:51A Pakistani film is also remaining.
23:53Our promo is still going on.
23:55The trailer is still going on,
23:57and after that the movie is going on.
23:59And a world movie is also going on.
24:01Mr. Jainal, it is very important
24:03that if the national mood has changed,
24:05towards the army, everything,
24:07this war has played a very big role in this.
24:09But of course, the war is still in the state of war.
24:11It was said about Mr. Imran Khan
24:13that he made a mistake
24:15that when he was in full strength,
24:17then he, instead of bringing
24:19others along and talking to you,
24:21he said, give them more,
24:23give them more.
24:25Are you not repeating this mistake?
24:27Because everything about you
24:29is in the right place,
24:31you are comfortable,
24:33you have a great relationship with the institution,
24:35the war is still going on,
24:37the economy is also getting better.
24:39Why do we need to talk to someone?
24:41Why do we need to bring someone along?
24:43Are you not repeating the same mistake
24:45that Mr. Jainal is indicating,
24:47that tomorrow there will be divisions
24:49and then the nation will be divided?
24:53No, look, Mr. Malik,
24:55there will be no division.
24:57The war will be fought
24:59by the army,
25:01and the people
25:03will have to stand
25:05with their army.
25:07I can tell you with complete certainty
25:09that may Allah forbid,
25:11we are seekers of peace,
25:13we are warriors of peace,
25:15we do not want war,
25:17but whenever such an incident
25:19will come,
25:21you will see the whole nation
25:23standing behind your army.
25:25No matter how popular
25:27a leader is,
25:29he cannot make any difference.
25:31Whoever tries to make a difference,
25:33he himself will be separated.
25:35So, this is decided here.
25:37Now, if you look at it politically,
25:39how much space is there,
25:41how much is not there,
25:43how many hybrids are there,
25:45etc.
25:47Mr. Malik, look,
25:49who is going to sit and decide this matter?
25:51The politicians.
25:53How will the politicians sit at the table?
25:55Who is ready to sit?
25:57We are ready.
25:59We were ready even then,
26:01when they were making false cases
26:03and imprisoning us.
26:05At that time, we used to say,
26:07come and sit,
26:09do the Charter of Economy,
26:11do the Charter of Democracy.
26:13We are ready even today.
26:15We offered this four days ago.
26:17The Prime Minister has offered.
26:19Now, the Prime Minister has offered
26:21without asking the party,
26:23without asking the party leader.
26:25Who is not ready to sit?
26:27Whoever is not ready to sit,
26:29whoever is not ready to talk,
26:31I believe that you are at your place today.
26:33And we, as a politician,
26:35are always ready to sit and talk
26:37and resolve the matter
26:39at our place.
26:41We are ready today,
26:43we were ready yesterday,
26:45and we are ready to resolve
26:47these matters with them
26:49when they want.
26:51And the Prime Minister's offer
26:53is present.
26:55You are saying that
26:57the conversation can be held,
26:59but this insistence of Imran Khan
27:01that I will only talk to the establishment,
27:03this insistence will have to be left.
27:05Are you ready to talk?
27:07No,
27:09there is something else behind this insistence.
27:11He says
27:13that the establishment
27:15should sit with me and talk.
27:17And after that,
27:19the way he made me the Prime Minister
27:21as a project,
27:23at that time he made me the Prime Minister again.
27:25And I again, from this country,
27:27in the same way,
27:29the way I made a program to finish,
27:31I will finish everyone.
27:33And then it is only me.
27:35You tell me,
27:37what was the fight with the establishment
27:39about? It was about this.
27:41He used to say that this is against me.
27:43Politicians and political parties,
27:45finish them all. I don't want to leave anyone.
27:47He did not support
27:49the establishment at that time.
27:51And there was a fight.
27:53If he still wants this,
27:55then you
27:57see the matter.
27:59You decide on it yourself.
28:01Whose fault is it?
28:03Who wants to
28:05remove that country
28:07from the path of democracy
28:09and the path of politics?
28:11So, Mr. Rana, will this
28:13continue in the same way?
28:15Will the situation continue like this?
28:17And can it continue for a long time?
28:19No, why will it continue like this?
28:21Why will it continue like this
28:23because
28:25if a person does not
28:27come to
28:29resolve the matter,
28:31then the matter
28:33has to be resolved.
28:35Time has to go ahead.
28:37Whoever does not
28:39go with time, will remain.
28:41Time
28:43does not wait for anyone.
28:45General sir, tell me one thing.
28:47This time, the personality became a big issue.
28:49And there was a headline
28:51in an article
28:53that two religious strongmen
28:55stood in front of you.
28:57Modi is a religious fanatic.
28:59He is a religious fanatic.
29:01How has he made
29:03the army chief a religious fanatic?
29:05Just because he is a Hafiz
29:07of the Quran,
29:09he has been painted
29:11as a religious fanatic.
29:13What is he like?
29:15We do not know.
29:17I have never met him personally.
29:19He is the only army chief
29:21whom I have met.
29:23Is he religious?
29:25If you remember,
29:27you once asked me
29:29as a profile card
29:31about General Asim Munir.
29:33I said that he is courageous,
29:35strong,
29:37and believes in Allah.
29:39Is he a religious hardliner?
29:41Religious extremists are doing politics.
29:43We are very proud of being religious.
29:45I am a Mujahid.
29:47I am a Mujahid.
29:49I have served in the army.
29:51General Asim Munir is a soldier.
29:53He is a Mujahid of Allah.
29:55He is commanding an army
29:57with the motto of
29:59Iman, Taqwa, Jihad for Allah.
30:01We are motivated by
30:03the contract of a soldier.
30:05Of course, the chief
30:07has to maintain
30:09the morale of his military.
30:11He is a role model.
30:13He is showing his connection
30:15with the name of the operation
30:17which was conducted by the chief.
30:19He is a role model.
30:21He is a role model.
30:23He is a role model.
30:25He is a role model.
30:27He is a role model.
30:29It is a proud thing for all of us
30:31that he is doing Jihad.
30:33Our soldiers are very proud.
30:35Jihad and violence
30:37and control is kept with the state
30:39because it is Allah's command.
30:41There are no extremists.
30:43Extremists are with them.
30:45Look at the butchers of Gujarat.
30:47Look at the methodology of RSS.
30:49They have taken the model of
30:51the liquid party and
30:53tried to do genocidal operations.
30:55In wars, models are not used.
30:57Theories are used in wars.
30:59The theory of Pakistan,
31:01the theory of Islam,
31:03the theory of Prophet Muhammad
31:05and the strong belief of the army chief.
31:07You can watch the clip
31:09that he is brave,
31:11he believes in Allah and
31:13when he decides, he does it.
31:15The nation has given him
31:17the reward for that.
31:19It is the good fortune of Pakistan
31:21that the commander-in-chief
31:23is drawing strength from Allah.
31:25I will consider it a great honor.
31:27It is motivational.
31:29We have fought wars.
31:31When you are a warrior,
31:33I am telling you honestly,
31:35you have no connection with the world.
31:37You are on the path of killing the enemy.
31:39You have surrendered yourself to Allah.
31:41You forget how many children you have.
31:43How many bullets did you get?
31:45I got six bullets and a mortar shell.
31:47It was in Bajor.
31:49At that time,
31:51the material is different.
31:53Only a soldier can understand it.
31:55Time for a little break.
31:57Stay with us.
32:03Welcome back to the show.
32:05Mr. Ilana, tell us one thing.
32:07You are aware of the decisions
32:09that have been taken.
32:11India is now
32:13playing with Pakistan.
32:15Such big decisions have been taken
32:17that they have increased
32:19their hydro power projects
32:21and dam projects.
32:23Maybe they want to
32:25force Pakistan
32:27to do something about it.
32:29How clear are we
32:31that if they make
32:33any illegal structures
32:35to divert water,
32:37will Pakistan
32:39target them?
32:45Yes, of course.
32:47It will be an act of war.
32:49They will be targeted.
32:53But before they are targeted,
32:55the whole world,
32:57all countries,
32:59will be on board.
33:01It is not like
33:03they didn't present the evidence
33:05and attacked the world.
33:07Right now,
33:09only verbal attacks are happening.
33:11No such
33:13case has started yet.
33:15When it starts,
33:17a notice will be taken
33:19and the whole world
33:21will be on board.
33:23It will be targeted.
33:25You talked about the world.
33:27Mr. Shibli Faraz
33:29in the Senate
33:31is going on a delegation.
33:33You have taken all your allies.
33:35You didn't take
33:37a PTI guy from the opposition.
33:39Shouldn't you have taken a PTI guy?
33:41There are people there who speak well.
33:43Absolutely.
33:45I am ready to take a guy.
33:47You
33:49can take a guy from them.
33:51We will get him in the morning.
33:53Where will I take him?
33:55You can invite him.
33:57But don't invite us.
34:01They don't
34:03take part in this.
34:05Shah Mahmood Qureshi
34:07got him bailed.
34:09He is an ex-Foreign Minister.
34:13The court has to take the bail.
34:15If they want to go,
34:17they can take him with them.
34:19Sir, as an army person,
34:21I have a question for both of you.
34:23How much
34:25risk do you have
34:27that they will do something else?
34:29I am talking to the experts.
34:31They think not yet.
34:33But within a year or so,
34:35Narendra Modi will do it again.
34:37He is not ready yet.
34:39We are watching India's media.
34:41The atmosphere is not cooling down.
34:43You have said this.
34:45There is a trailer.
34:47There will be a film.
34:49As an army man,
34:51what is your guess?
34:53The discussion that is happening
34:55is to de-escalate.
34:57Their military has been embarrassed.
34:59Military embarrassment
35:01is a huge thing.
35:03In the first 40-45 minutes,
35:05you have embarrassed their military.
35:07This is the biggest
35:09military objective
35:11of a commander to embarrass the military
35:13in the eyes of their own people.
35:15You have done that.
35:17They have sacked 2-3 generals,
35:19including the Deputy Chief.
35:21This is how you know who won the war.
35:23On one hand, you are a field marshal.
35:25They have scrambled.
35:27They have called Malik to Washington.
35:29They are lying.
35:31The Secretary of State is also lying.
35:33Let's end the Pakistani commentary.
35:35They have called the ambassador
35:37of America to India
35:39and demarched him.
35:41Demarch him.
35:43Remove him and ban him.
35:45They can only talk about Turkey.
35:47They can talk about Azerbaijan.
35:49But you see them acting.
35:51The guards will act.
35:53As long as they have the capacity,
35:55we should keep guards.
35:57It depends on the election
35:59in Bihar.
36:01They will increase
36:03the number of proxies.
36:05They will increase the number
36:07of proxies in Balochistan,
36:09Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
36:11Karachi.
36:13Rana sahib, you have
36:15made an assessment.
36:17There will be an increase
36:19in terrorist activities.
36:21The number will increase.
36:23What is your assessment?
36:25For how long
36:27can Modi create a scene?