Media strategist: Trump-Putin call a positive step

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00:00And Michael, today there's been calls with Zelensky, there's been calls with Putin,

00:05we've had a few news lines out of this. What do you make of the situation?

00:10I think we have a couple of storylines. We have what Donald Trump is saying,

00:14and then we have what we think Vladimir Putin is thinking, because we haven't heard too much

00:18official language from Vladimir Putin. We've heard that the conversation with Donald Trump

00:24was informative, frank, and very useful, which to my journalist ear means PR speak,

00:31which probably equates to nothing I'm going to tell you, and probably not a lot of headway was made.

00:37But I do think that it's nice that you have the world leaders, finally, after Donald Trump has

00:45been in office for 120, 130 days, finally having in-depth conversations about this ongoing war.