00:00When tensions ratchet up between two de facto nuclear weapon states, the rest of the world
00:07is not going to stand by and watch.
00:10The other countries of the world will obviously be talking to both the countries when you
00:15are not talking to each other.
00:16The message has gone to Pakistan that if it continues to use terror as an instrument of
00:22state policy, there would be punitive consequences.
00:27They cannot use the nuclear blackmail in order to continue with state-sponsored terror.
00:35The statement which has come from the President of the United States of America, Mr. Donald
00:43Trump, is whether you like it or not a factual statement.
00:48If you look at the India-Pakistan paradigm in a perspective, from 1947 till 1972, whenever
00:58tensions went up between India and Pakistan, and they were primarily over the state of
01:04Jammu and Kashmir, it is the United Nations Security Council resolutions which were the
01:09template for whatever interlocution took place between the two countries.
01:17After 1972 till 1990, it was the similar agreement which injected bilateralism into the relationship.
01:28But when Pakistan started waving the nuclear word, 1990 onwards, and the then Deputy National
01:38Security Advisor, Robert Gates came to India on the 19th of May, 1990.
01:45Even onwards, whenever there has been a flashpoint in the India-Pakistan equation, there has been
01:54intervention by foreign powers led by the United States of America.
02:01It happened in 2001 at the height of Operation Parakram.
02:07It happened subsequently when tensions went up between India and Pakistan, post the 26-11 terror attack.
02:15It happened again after the Uri surgical strike in 2019.
02:22After the Pulwama-Balakot dynamic, President Trump publicly took ownership from Hanoi of the
02:30fact that he had ratcheted tensions down between India and Pakistan.
02:35And on 10th of May, 2025, his social media post and the subsequent statement by Secretary of
02:45State, Marco Rubio, again testifies and underscores to the fact that there has been back-channeling,
02:53brokering, arbitration, third-party mediation, whatever you may like to call it.
03:00You see, the bottom line ultimately is that when tensions ratchet up between two de facto nuclear
03:08weapon states, the rest of the world is not going to stand by and watch when you have missiles flying
03:15from there to here and everywhere. So, therefore, the other countries of the world will obviously
03:24be talking to both the countries when you are not talking to each other.
03:36India, India and Pakistan, India and India.
03:45Well, one thing is very evident that a message has gone to Pakistan that if it continues to
03:54use terror as an instrument of state policy, there would be punitive consequences. And those
04:00Those punitive consequences in the aftermath of the Pahalgam massacre were executed by
04:08the Indian Armed Forces between the 7th and the 10th of March, 19-2025.
04:18Therefore under those circumstances, I think the Pakistani leadership would have realized
04:25that it cannot be business as usual.
04:28They cannot use the nuclear blackmail in order to continue with state-sponsored terror.
04:36And I do hope that the Pakistani leadership, both the civilian leadership and more importantly
04:43the military leadership and even most importantly the Pakistani deep state which has spawned
04:49these semi-state actors would get the message very, very clearly.
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