00:00Look, we're the People's Channel now, and let's go to a GB News viewer, Rob Bright.
00:05Rob, welcome to the show.
00:07Rob, I wanted to talk to you because there's been much made about the fact that difficult choices had to be made by this government.
00:14And, of course, one of the most difficult ones was the axing of the winter fuel allowance.
00:19That saved ÂŁ1.5 billion per year, Rob.
00:23But today we've learned that's been obliterated by an extra ÂŁ15 billion of borrowing.
00:29Do you feel that the winter fuel allowance, Kurt, when you look at those figures, was a price worth paying?
00:37Well, where has all the money gone?
00:39I mean, they're borrowing so much money, and they're just cutting the bits that, the low-hanging fruit,
00:46that just doesn't really matter to pay for the stuff that they think does matter, but really it doesn't either.
00:54I mean, the defence budget, yes, we need to spend more money there.
00:58But there's so much money where we really don't need to spend it.
01:02Foreign aid, why are we spending so much money on foreign aid when we have so much money that we need to spend here?
01:10And do you think that's the point, Rob?
01:11When you say to people, quite simply, do you feel better off now than before the government came into power?
01:20May I ask you that, Rob?
01:22Do you feel better off after all of the tax-saving measures, all the strong words we heard coming out of Downstreet?
01:29Do you feel better off?
01:30No, I absolutely don't feel better off.
01:33I think Keir Starmer is a dangerous idealist.
01:36He's got his own agenda.
01:39And what do you think that...
01:40Sorry?
01:44And what do you think that agenda is, and how do you mean?
01:47Well, he's got his own agenda.
01:48He's got his own agenda to go back into Europe.
01:50He has his own agenda about his friends in the Law Society and the CPS.
01:59So much stuff that he believes in that we're paying for.
02:04And it's not what ordinary people believe in.
02:08And do you think that's the point, Rob, here?
02:10You know, blaming Donald Trump for this round of borrowing before that.
02:14It was Putin.
02:15It was Ukraine.
02:16It was COVID.
02:18It could be a meteorite.
02:19There'll always be an excuse to borrow more.
02:22There'll always be an excuse to squeeze more money out of the humble taxpayer.
02:28Rob, do you agree with that?
02:30Well, he and Rachel Reeves laid into Boris Johnson during a pandemic to say how bad our economy was performing during a pandemic.
02:40And here we've got now with a little bit of tariff put onto British goods going into America.
02:47And all of a sudden, that is a major stumbling block to our growth.
02:53I don't buy it.
02:55OK, well, thank you.
02:55There we go.
02:56Let's do it.
02:56Let's do it.
02:56Let's do it.
02:57Let's do it.
03:01So, let's try again.
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