PTI vs PTI: Is the Party Naturally Splitting or Being Torn Apart?

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00:00PTI versus establishment, PTI versus PMLN, PTI versus the world.

00:07For the past few days, there has been only one news, PTI versus PTI.

00:11It seems that the differences that were previously denied,

00:15or what is said to be a natural course of events in parties,

00:19have now come to the fore.

00:21Groupings have come to the fore.

00:22Ali Amin Gandapur Sahib has one group,

00:24Junaid Akbar, who has all of them,

00:26Asad Qaisar and Atif Khan, all of them are in another group.

00:29There were always two or four groups.

00:31In the beginning, we used to listen to PTI America versus PTI Pakistan.

00:35Because PTI America did whatever it wanted,

00:37tweeted, did everything, because there were no consequences there.

00:40And the PTI people here used to say that they are sitting in America,

00:43they write whatever they want, they say,

00:45we suffer.

00:47Then in PTI Pakistan, we saw the groupings in front of us.

00:50Some are natural.

00:51And now we have seen that it has gone to such an extent

00:54that allegations of billions of fraud are put on each other,

00:57then allegations are put on each other,

00:59who is talking in secret to the establishment, who is not.

01:02And all these things were going on,

01:04then Azam Sawati Sahib's statement came.

01:06His statement is clear in saying,

01:09where obviously it is visible that he is clarifying his position,

01:12that why did I do it, what am I doing,

01:15on whose orders am I doing it.

01:16But the immediate impact of that is that

01:18a question has arisen on two very big things.

01:22One is that the PTI has always insisted that

01:24we are not talking to anyone.

01:26That keeps happening and should happen.

01:28There is nothing wrong in it.

01:30But from Azam Sawati's statement,

01:32it seems that it was initiated by him.

01:35And one thing that I used to say again and again in my programs,

01:38and many people did not believe it,

01:39because many of our other friends used to say that

01:41this offer is coming, that offer is coming,

01:43and I used to say that look, no offer is coming,

01:45one side is not ready at all.

01:47They did it today too.

01:49These were very important developments.

01:52We will talk about all these things.

01:53Where do we stand?

01:54Then an important delegation came.

01:56And the people of PTI America were very prominent in it.

01:59There was Barki Sahib, Atif,

02:01these are the people who have done a lot for Imran Khan

02:04and are still doing it.

02:05But when they met here from different circles,

02:08then the same thing happened with them

02:11from PTI's digital wing,

02:14which happens with the rest.

02:16Azam Sawati also spoke on that.

02:18I will tell you about that too.

02:19And I will also tell you about that meeting

02:21which took place at a very important place for them.

02:24There, obviously, as expected,

02:26they spoke about Imran Khan's release,

02:29some kind of a room should be created

02:32where there is a formula for co-existence.

02:34And I am saying co-existence to be fair to the delegation.

02:37They did not say to anyone that we need forgiveness,

02:40we need charity.

02:42They said that co-existence is necessary for the country.

02:45So it was a matter of tolerating each other.

02:47They were messaged two or three things there.

02:50They were told that, look,

02:51on one hand, you want to talk

02:53and you want to talk to the leadership of the army.

02:57On the other hand, your people go and get resolutions tabled

03:00which by name target the army chief.

03:03Your media is not in your control

03:05and if your social media is not in your control,

03:08no one owns it,

03:09then how will you talk?

03:11We are hearing a lot about guarantors,

03:14that individuals cannot be guarantors.

03:17They have no status.

03:18We are not able to see the government on the horizon.

03:21All these things were going on.

03:23And according to my understanding,

03:25there was some kind of an understanding

03:27that let's meet again in a month or two

03:29and see how things pan out.

03:31Now, all this was happening.

03:32So today, the PTI official,

03:34again two big hard-hitting tweets came from there.

03:37And again, they have targeted the army chief.

03:40By taking his name,

03:41that his regime has done a lot of violations,

03:45elections, fraudulent elections,

03:47and then one tweet is even more damaging

03:50that in that,

03:51those statements were given

03:52which were very personalised statements.

03:54For example, in 2024,

03:56when they said,

03:57yes, the establishment has done everything

03:59that it could do.

04:00Now, all they have left is to murder me.

04:03Then, if something happens to me,

04:05then the army chief and DGIS,

04:06I will be responsible.

04:07This is from 26th August 2024.

04:09All these statements were made in these tweets.

04:12The second is also a very personalised tweet.

04:15It can be seen clearly

04:17that if a group from America is coming,

04:19if they are meeting,

04:21then they should not raise their voice.

04:24And somehow,

04:25two strange statements are going on about the PTI.

04:28But the latest thing that Mr. Sawati has said,

04:31I will tell you about that too.

04:32What about that?

04:33In the first part of the programme,

04:34we will talk about the PTI.

04:35Another meeting is very interesting.

04:37I will talk about that in the second part of the programme.

04:39And that meeting is of Mariam Nawaz Sahiba

04:41and Mohsin Naqvi Sahib.

04:43It was a very innocent meeting.

04:45It took place.

04:46Then Mohsin Naqvi came on Eid

04:48and met Nawaz Sharif.

04:50But I will tell you the background of that meeting

04:52and why that meeting is important.

04:54And especially,

04:56in that meeting,

04:57Mariam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba

04:59had to call on Mohsin Naqvi.

05:01Many people may find it normal

05:05that the Chief of Punjab

05:07has called on the Interior Minister for a meeting.

05:10But believe me,

05:11the power play that is going on,

05:13at that angle too,

05:14this messaging is very important.

05:16What is it? Why is it?

05:17We will talk about that in the second part of the programme.

05:19In the first part of the programme,

05:20Salman Akram Raja Sahib has joined us.

05:22He is the Secretary General of PTI.

05:24Assalam-o-Alaikum, Salman.

05:25Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum.

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