00:30Hello, good to see you. How are you? Very well, thank you. The last time we saw each
00:56other was in Birmingham, wasn't it? It was, it was. You mentioned the Aubergine
00:59Emoji, it was your favourite. Yes, it was. Thank you for reminding me about that.
01:03But it's nice to be able to be in nature, especially with an agri-cultural interest in farming, so
01:08got to meet some amazing people today. Yeah, brilliant. Are you still doing radio as well?
01:11Yes, yes. Excellent, it's been a good one. It's nice to have a bit of both, balance a bit.
01:15Get outside, see the fresh air. So, it's good to have you along today. Thank you,
01:19lovely to see you again. Appreciate it. How are you? Nice to see you. We saw each other
01:22very recently. Very recently, yeah. It's a bit dry today. Well, nice to have you along,
01:26really good to see you. Very good, thank you. Very nice to see you. You were speaking about
01:30sort of management and planning? Six sessions, trying to get the conversation with Dad and Mum,
01:34with my parents. Yep. So, rather than sort of saying, what am I? These two don't do that much
01:39introduction, it's good. Very nice to meet you. Lovely to meet you. Nice to meet you too.
01:43Nice to meet you. Very nice to meet you. You said that very well. Thank you. Good grey hair.
01:50Yeah, 6.30. Looks quite smart. Thank you.
01:52You've got a shirt on, haven't you? Yep.
01:58I'm a tyrant after today, I'll go into the work.
02:05And also, I was just saying to the others about having that first conversation,
02:09particularly with succession planning, it's quite important to break the taboo of having a
02:12conversation because it builds up and it's quite worried. If you don't know what's going to happen
02:15in the future, everyone gets very worried about that. So, you can at least start those conversations
02:18gently, then everyone just feels, okay, we can work towards it and understand it.
02:23Yeah. It's a strain on the mental health as well, isn't it? That's a big thing. I think a lot more
02:28people are talking about it these days, though. A hundred percent. A lot more people are picking
02:32up the phone, just ringing the neighbour and just speaking to the neighbour. Or me, I mean,
02:35my phone goes. I know, you've probably become a bit of a counsellor now. Both of you are.
02:39250 calls a day, I think, I get, roughly. Just don't break them, don't realise it.
02:44Or run out of seed, for example. But no, it's good. I think a lot more people are talking about
02:49it, which is a good thing. There's lots of charities, isn't there? Lots of charities.
02:54What do you think we can do to help with rural isolation and loneliness and things like that?
02:57Because obviously, you live and work.
02:59Putting together a charity and, you know, last year we had 4,000 members of the farming
03:06community in Herefordshire access one part of the service. And for His Royal Highness to
03:12come on board is just, it's incredible. I can't describe the feeling of, you know,
03:20the British agriculture is under stress, beyond stress.
03:24But I do think we're heading the right way and I'm excited by that journey and that progress.
03:31I set out to talk about mental health. I never realised quite what I stumbled into
03:38and realised that once you scratch away at the surface,
03:41the nation's mental health was very fragile and almost unspoken about. And I think over the years,
03:48we've done better at talking about that. There are, like I say, still hard to reach parts of society.
03:52There's an idea between beautiful and when we have, you know,
03:55people come to our shepherd's huts to, oh, you're so lucky.
03:58If you want to imagine how many tools you guys have on the farm,
04:09have a toolbox that is your mental toolbox. And in it, you need to have certain tools in there
04:13to deal with certain problems that come along in life. And if you don't have that tool,
04:17then go and find somebody who will help you because people like Sam and Emily can do that.
04:22They can provide you with that extra tool that we don't have, because not everyone is to have
04:26every tool. We just don't. There are lots of reasons why we don't. That's because of the
04:29experience, because of the never chance to do it, the timing, training, whatever it might be,
04:34we've not had that moment or that chance to have it. But if you don't have that tool,
04:39don't be afraid to go and ask somebody for a bit of help to ask what that tool is.
04:43There are plenty of ways to get that tool. And for me, particularly breaking, you know,
04:48we talked about the work-life balance, breaking that cycle where you can, which I know in the
04:53farming world is almost impossible, bearing in mind you live, breathe, sleep, you know,
04:56everything around you is there. But try and find a way to come away from that. Otherwise,
05:01you find yourself talking about the same things that bother you on a day-to-day basis.
05:04And it stays within the family and goes round and round in circles. And it goes very walk of life.
05:09We always need to come away from that and have time out, go do some things that are fun,
05:13go and have a laugh, go do something completely different. So the mind has a chance to rest and
05:17go and think about other things. I worry how much we're on our phones and data, you know,
05:23most of us in here will sit here and say, we looked at our phones, the first thing you do
05:26when you wake up in the morning, last thing you do go at night, you check your phones.
05:29We've got to get out of that habit because mentally that is not good for all of us.
05:32It's your brain is not resting, your brain is processing so much information that it's never
05:37evolved fast enough to do. And at some point in the future, there'll be people's brains who
05:41will have adapted amazingly evolutionary, but not in the short space of time where it's healthy.
05:47And I think we've got to be really careful that the practices we teach our children,
05:50the practices we're going to do ourselves, the way we live, we've just got to make sure we
05:56take that time out for ourselves to calm down, have a clear think.
05:59But we're learning from them, we're trying to prove ourselves to them.
06:03So it's then very difficult to give yourself breathing space and time off.
06:07Put your phone down, ring your neighbour, ring your friend, just have a general chat.
06:12Every tractor's got Bluetooth nowadays, hasn't it? Or it's actually a passenger seat.
06:15Just invite them in and come and sit with you.
06:18Unless you've got a John Deere and then the Bluetooth comes in and if you've got the volume in
06:22hard.
06:23You know, and having that commercial relationship with you guys. So that's why
06:26We Are Farming Minds has nothing to do necessarily with deductions,
06:29where it's kind of, we support it and look after it, but they're independent charities
06:33kind of managing it. So you guys feel you're talking to somebody who's not.
06:36The introduction system for that, because I think that's quite an important point.
06:40Yeah, we are. And I'll be clear, we're there to really help signpost.
06:45Yeah, it does help unless he's very friendly.
06:48I know. But just having the ability to just clock when someone isn't their normal self,
06:54that's the key. And yeah, I've experienced that a few times.
07:07Hello, your Royal Highness, Will Ketto. Nice to see you too.
07:11Yeah, nice to see you.
07:13Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. That's my sister.
07:18I guess it's probably more of a generational thing in that they're at the end of their story.
07:25They're at the end.
07:43It's 2010. I can't go down that far.
07:49Right, ready? On the count of three. One, two, three.
