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Jorge Ramos Detained After Questioning Venezuelan pres
Brut America
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9 months ago
Univision journalist Jorge Ramos went to Venezuela to ask tough questions of President Nicolas Maduro. He explains to Brut why it all went wrong — including being expelled from the country.
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For asking questions, they confiscated our cameras,
00:04
they stole our interview, they took our equipment,
00:07
they took our cell phones,
00:09
they detained us for more than two hours,
00:10
and then they deported us all, simply for asking questions.
00:22
What you expect from an interview with a dictator,
00:24
that's what we expected in the interview with Nicolás Maduro.
00:27
He is a man who committed electoral frauds in 2013 and 2018,
00:32
a man who was accused by his own head of intelligence,
00:36
Hugo Carvajal, of having murdered hundreds of young people,
00:39
a man who has ended up destroying the Bolivarian revolution,
00:44
where there is an inflation of one million percent,
00:47
and if we don't ask the difficult and complicated questions,
00:50
no one else will be able to ask them.
00:51
So that's our responsibility.
00:54
And we have to be against power.
00:56
When that power is dictatorial, as in the case of Venezuela,
01:01
then we have to be equally strong.
01:11
In the United States, for example,
01:14
I criticized Donald Trump, the most powerful man in the world,
01:17
and I still criticize him.
01:18
And what happens?
01:19
I can go home and I can sleep peacefully,
01:22
I can go out by bicycle with my children or go to the supermarket alone.
01:25
But I did exactly the same thing with Nicolás Maduro,
01:29
and we were censored,
01:31
we were arrested,
01:33
and we were deported.
01:34
There is a value judgment that is made
01:36
before entering the interview.
01:38
Many times they think that journalists
01:40
live in a vacuum.
01:41
It's not true.
01:41
In this particular interview,
01:43
I was going to try to demonstrate with data
01:45
that he was a dictator,
01:47
that he had violated human rights,
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that he had political prisoners,
01:50
that he had committed electoral fraud,
01:52
that he was screwing up power illegally.
01:55
And he had to show that he was a democrat.
01:57
That's the tone of the interview I wanted at the beginning,
02:00
which lasted 17 minutes,
02:01
until I showed him a video
02:03
where some young men
02:06
were eating garbage from a garbage truck,
02:08
and he didn't like it anymore.
02:10
He stopped and left.
02:12
And at that moment I said,
02:13
why don't you answer the questions?
02:15
What you're doing is not done by democrats,
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that's what dictators do.
02:18
Journalists are forced to take sides.
02:21
Definitely,
02:22
Elie Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize winner,
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whom we recently lost, said
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that neutrality helps the aggressor,
02:30
never the victim.
02:31
And that's absolutely true.
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If we remain silent,
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we are allowing others to commit abuse.
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And it's exactly the same with journalists.
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It applies to all human beings.
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Faced with racism,
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discrimination,
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human rights violations,
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dictatorships,
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we have the obligation to take sides.
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If we don't take sides,
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who will?
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