00:00I'll just be very brief. I think there's a lot of laws. And when I look at it, when I look at it, that's domestic law.
00:13And in fact, that domestic law is an act on the crimes against international humanitarian law, genocide, and crimes against humanity.
00:26They passed that law even before I became a member of the NLCC in 2001.
00:36And in 2011, because our law was in 2009, and in 2011 was the statute, which is an international treaty.
00:46It is clear, if I may say so myself, that the government is the one who is giving to the international tribunal.
01:00Ah, Tagalog. I'm sorry, Tagalog.
01:02Manila was here in that law, domestic law, that our Philippine authorities, our government, can defer to an international tribunal
01:20and can surrender the subject of the investigation dito sa ati to the international court.
01:31So, an international court, ICC, was the one who investigated the alleged crimes against humanity involving the former president.
01:45And it's also the international criminal court that issued the warrant of release.
01:53Now, in cooperation with the Interpol, the Filipino government surrendered Mr. Duterte to the ICC.
02:04So, I don't see any shortcomings in the law. I don't see any flaws in the law.
02:12And I said that, the case of Pamilina de Pal v. Cayetano.
02:17We are clear in that ruling, unanimous ruling, and the Supreme Court did that,
02:24that even if the Philippines was withdrawn already from the law statute for ICC,
02:34the ICC retains jurisdiction over the alleged crimes that were committed during the time that we were still members.
02:45So, itungko din sa due process, the race again is now actually undergoing or being given, being accorded due process now before the ICC.
02:58You saw the initial proceedings last night. Thank you.
03:05Siguro, hindi ko na-discuss yung legalities kasi sinagot ko.
03:12Pero, parang I cannot help but compare yung sitwasyon ngayon,
03:18yung dating pangulong Duterte sa kanilang sitwasyon ay Senator Laila before.
03:25Alam natin kung ano yung pinagdaanan niya.
03:32She was incarcerated for almost 7 years on trump up charges.
03:39Hindi niya kulisyon yung due process.
03:44She had to go through everything.
03:47So kahit, kahit mali yung mga paratang sa kanya, lahat niya yung hinarap.
03:54Lahat niya yung hinarap, at in the end, she was proven correct.
04:00Na talagang, talagang wala siyang kasalanan, kaya nga siya nakalabas.
04:05Pero ako kasi, pero sa akin, mas on a more personal level.
04:11Kasi nakita ko yung sitwasyon niya eh.
04:13Nakita ko yung sitwasyon niya na malayo sa sitwasyon ngayon.
04:18Pagkalimbawa, yung binibisita ko siya,
04:21eh kasi, ewan ko lang kung sinusunod nila yung dapat,
04:27pero yung nakalagay, meron siyang computer,
04:32meron siyang maayos sa panyang palagayan,
04:35he can freely roam around,
04:38merong mga conjugal and family visits ng FD Entertainment, maluwag.
04:46Yung kay Senator Lila nun, hindi talaga gano'n.
04:50Ay, yung kay Senator Lila nun, ay, yung kwarto niya,
04:54talagang sobrang, sobrang wikip, na sobrang inip,
05:00walang care condition, may electric fan laman siya,
05:05ayun, na wala na nga ng kuryente, may electric fan laman siya,
05:08pero she did not have access to a computer.
05:13Senator siya nun, sinusulat na lahat.
05:16Yung nagkatrabaho siya as Senator, pero wala siyang access sa computer,
05:20wala siyang access sa telepono, wala siyang access sa internet,
05:25nabigyan lang siya ng, nabigyan lang siya ng,
05:30nabigyan lang siya ng karampata na pwede siyang manuod ng movies,
05:34after, after a long time,
05:37tapos pwede lang siyang manuod on the Saturdays,
05:41every Saturday afternoon, 1 to 5,
05:45pero yung papanuorin niya, isasabit niya muna,
05:49isasabit niya muna, at yun yung ilaload,
05:54yun yung ilaload ng polis, at yun yung pwede niyang panuorin.
05:59So, pagpupunta nga kami, nagpaparecommend pa siya kung ano yung mga mapapanuod,
06:04nililis na niya, diba, yung mga K-drama,
06:09sabi ko kung 1 to 5, hindi mo pa matatapos, so papuntok-puntok.
06:13So, ang gusto ko lang nito sabihin na,
06:16she had to endure all of that,
06:19kasi sinunod na yung due process.
06:22Um, hinarap na yung charges against her,
06:25no matter how,
06:29no matter how difficult and unfair those charges were,
06:34kahit obvious na political harassment,
06:38hinarap niya.
06:40And, every time magbibisita kami nung run or hunding pang,
06:45hunding pang mamatay, kasi na-hostage siya.
06:49Nung, kung naalala nyo, yung incident na yun,
06:52pinasok siya.
06:54Pinasok siya sa kwarto niya nung hostage taken.
06:59Kaya di ko naman sabihin na nakapatulong pa siya nung pinasok siya.
07:04So, ang gusto ko lang sabihin,
07:07pinagdaanan niya ito.
07:09And, naging patient siya,
07:12kasi alam niya may prosesong sinusunod.
07:15Um, yun lang.
07:17Yung lahat-lahat na sinasabi ngayon,
07:20ano ito eh,
07:22first step towards accountability, justice,
07:26na pinagdaanan na ni Senkai lang.
07:29Kaya, all this talk about everything that's happening,
07:34about due process, about how unfair everything is.
07:38Lagi kong, lagi kong nababalik ko sa sitwasyon ko.
07:49Ano nga, at least I'm as general,
07:52kasi when you talk of due process,
07:54but Senator Laila kasi, ayun,
07:57ni Senator Laila kasi, ang tugung-tulungan eh.
08:01So, ang bawat natin na may unfairness sa lahat,
08:05may prosesong sinusunod.
08:07May prosesong sinusunod,
08:09at siya, naging willing siyang saglit yung prosesong.
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