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Ranbir Kapoor and Bobby Deol from Sandeep Reddy Vanga’s controversial film ‘Animal’ talks about going dark and violent in new film
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00:00I'm with the cast of Animal, really excited about the movie and Bobby seems to be in a
00:09very fierce avatar by the way. I think he took the cake towards the end, is that true?
00:13I don't think I took the cake, I think the whole show was, the trailer was such a lovely
00:18way of expressing what the movie is all about. I think every element which was shown in it
00:24made an impact, that's why the last shot has such an impact.
00:27It's become such a meme now, it's amazing, I love it.
00:30Yeah, I'm pretty popular with memes I think.
00:32I think you're official only when memes and trolls are actually, isn't it true?
00:39That's what we were discussing yesterday that if you're a meme means you're part of pop
00:44culture, so means there is some chatter about you, so that's always a good thing because
00:48I guess the youth really communicate through memes and humour, so if you're a meme or you're
00:53being trolled means you've made it in life.
00:55Generation Z, which they have words like dilulu, you don't understand what dilulu means, what
01:01is talking stage?
01:02Dilulu means delusion.
01:03Delusion, but they call it dilulu or what is talking stage?
01:06What is that?
01:07Means we're talking.
01:08I just learned this because I was somewhere and they asked me this question, it's about
01:11when a couple is in the part of their stage where they're talking to each other and they're
01:16still not seeing each other, it's talking stage.
01:18So when you're quoting someone.
01:19Yeah, kind of, they call it talking stage.
01:22Talking stage.
01:23I've heard of situation ship.
01:24Situation ship is also.
01:25Yeah, apparently that's a term.
01:26There's one or there's so many.
01:28Yeah, but Animal doesn't seem to be that progressive, huh?
01:31Or is it?
01:32Tell me.
01:33What do you mean by progressive?
01:34No, because it is director Sandeep Anga's picture, I'm always very curious to know how
01:39he's going to do it.
01:40Because you're judging him for his first film?
01:42Yeah, for Kabir Singh.
01:43Did you like the film?
01:44I did.
01:45So weirdly, I was one of the few people who did and I felt not so woke.
01:49I mean, I think that is not entirely correct because it's done close to 300 crores, a lot
01:54of people like that film.
01:55So I think there is a certain small section of audience which kind of plays to this narrative
02:04that, you know, it is, what's the right word?
02:07Toxic or it is, you know, certain things.
02:09But a movie is a movie.
02:10It's about a character.
02:11It's about a certain character.
02:12It doesn't necessarily mean that you need to be that person or you need to endorse the
02:16fact that this is his personality, so I need to also be like that.
02:19But you need to make movies about everybody, you know, and Kabir Singh was about that character
02:23and Animal is about these characters.
02:26So I think people who get easily triggered should stay away from this film.
02:30But it is cinema, you know, we're not trying to save the world or fly a rocket ship to
02:34the moon.
02:35We're just here for entertainment and you should see the film just like that.
02:38You should separate the art from the artist.
02:40Absolutely, absolutely.
02:41See, what a movie, what a story.
02:44It's based on what human nature is.
02:46Right?
02:47So we see good and bad in people.
02:49And people who are good, why are they good?
02:51Because they control the bad in them.
02:53But they all have those feelings, those emotions.
02:55So movies, what Kabir, when Sanjeev makes movies, he shows those sides to a character
03:00which everybody feels and that's where they relate.
03:03But they don't want to be open about it.
03:05You know?
03:06And I think that's what makes him so special as a director.
03:09Because he brings those elements out.
03:11And he says the truth.
03:12Yeah, he says the truth.
03:13I guess when you see the truth, you kind of get triggered because this is how people talk.
03:19This is how people behave.
03:20You necessarily don't agree with it.
03:22But it is the truth on screen.
03:24Now that's art.
03:25You as a viewer can judge it, can have an opinion.
03:28But that doesn't mean that we should curb ourselves or we should censor it.
03:32We should only make films which are sanitized and stuff.
03:35You need to make art, you need to have certain freedom.
03:37Of course, we are very conscious people as artists.
03:39We are not going to do something which will take the audience in a different direction
03:43or which will kind of trigger audiences to get violent or negative.
03:48But as filmmakers, there is a certain amount of freedom that a filmmaker should have.
03:54Which I think Sanjeev does have that.
03:56But when he narrated the script to you, did you have concerns at all?
04:01Absolutely.
04:02When he finished narrating, I said, please excuse me.
04:06I went to the bathroom.
04:07I looked at myself in the mirror.
04:08And I was so scared.
04:10See, I am not scared.
04:11A lot of people have this perception that animals are about a psychopath or a cannibal
04:16or stuff like that.
04:17Animals are not about that.
04:18Animals are about where a human being can go within himself to such complex areas
04:26to protect their family, to protect people who they love.
04:30So I think the way Sandeep wrote it, like I was mentioning earlier,
04:33there is so much of truth to it that it really kind of affected me.
04:36And it scared me.
04:37I was like, I don't think I can do this part.
04:39And I think that was the first time I ever felt like that.
04:42And I wanted to be a part of a film feeling that feeling, you know,
04:45and not play safe, you know.
04:47So yeah, I felt scared.
04:48I don't know about you.
04:49See, I've reached a stage in my career where I wanted to change my image.
04:54So I have done stuff which is something which is out of my comfort zone.
04:58And what makes you do the best or what gets the best out of you
05:01is when you're out of your comfort zone playing characters
05:04which are so interesting and so complex.
05:07But at the same time, how do you portray them?
05:10And I think that's what this whole, all the characters in this film are,
05:13you know, very well written.
05:15And I think, I don't, I did a show called Ashram, so I've done all that.
05:19You know, for me, playing negative has to have some heroism in it.
05:23You know, and I think every character in this has that kind of heroism.
05:27Be it Anil Kapoor, him, even the actors, other actors.
05:31There's some kind of a thing he puts into every character which you enjoy.
05:35And that's what it is.
05:37In the trailer, right, I love the bit about your troubled relationship with your father.
05:41It's a very violent childhood that you've had, etc.
05:44Those scenes, was it troubling for you? Was it triggering for you?
05:47You kept saying, don't watch it if it's triggering. Was it triggering for you?
05:50See, I'm an artist, so I want to be triggered.
05:54If I'm not triggered, then I don't think I can really do the work that I do.
05:59When I say triggered, I mean as an audience.
06:01If you have a personal backstory with your father or with your partner.
06:07And if cinema triggers you, then I'm saying, then avoid it.
06:10Having said that, this film deals with a lot of different relationships.
06:13You know, as a father-son relationship, brother-sister, brother-brother, brother-cousins, marriage.
06:18So there are very complex relationships which Sandeep has dealt with in a very complex way.
06:23But triggered, I think somewhere, all of us, especially my generation,
06:29we had a very particular relationship with our fathers.
06:32You know, there was a little bit of a distance, there was a lot of love and respect.
06:36But we weren't really best friends or buddies.
06:39So I think that is, you know, my father passed away and that's my biggest regret,
06:45is that I didn't spend enough time with him.
06:48I could not just sit and just hang out and just chat, you know, openheartedly with him.
06:52So I think there is a recurring father-son conflict in my movies.
06:58I think I kind of lean towards them is because I guess I feel that shortage in my life or something.
07:05I mean, I don't consciously do it, but I guess subconsciously it just goes towards that.
07:11What about you? Is there a backstory to your meanness?
07:15See, this film is all about, and you saw the teaser, it's all about family.
07:21Huh?
07:22It's all about family.
07:23Yeah, dysfunction.
07:24His father.
07:25Yeah.
07:26So everybody, so that's the base of this film, I feel.
07:28It's an A-rated version of Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Kabh.
07:31It's all about loving your family.
07:33Yeah, it's something like that.
07:35So every character has, it's very, I can't really reveal much right now.
07:38Yes.
07:39So, but it is just an amazing character, I've got to say.
07:44No, I like it.
07:45At least Bollywood is moving away from this happy family saga.
07:48Trust me, I don't think any family is normal.
07:51Perfect, yeah.
07:52Like, I mean, I meet my parents after, like, sometime my sister flies in.
07:55It's not very, very happy and Kabhi Khushi Kabh.
07:58Why is happiness so important?
07:59Because it's never, you know, lasts that long, you know, happens.
08:03But then that's what makes us what we are.
08:06I mean, human nature is such.
08:08We're always searching for happiness, but we can't give others happiness.
08:11Right.
08:12How will you get happiness when you can't make others happy?
08:14Okay, that's very profound.
08:17You know what, the scene where you teach your girlfriend or partner wife, I guess,
08:23to fly a plane.
08:24Let's get to that.
08:25What were you guys doing?
08:27Well, if once you watch the film, you'll realize what my character is.
08:31And he studied abroad.
08:32He's an aeronautical engineer.
08:34So he has a fleet of private planes, which he flies himself.
08:38Usually planes, when they are mid-air, there is a certain, there is an autopilot
08:45where you can just put on a button and it'll just float the plane.
08:49So, of course, taking a cinematic liberty, you can do that.
08:52It's part of a song.
08:53And I guess Sandeep also wanted to show that this man loves her so much
08:57that he trusts her blindly, that he'll give his life in her hands
09:01while he goes to the bathroom to have a shower and change.
09:03They are going to get married.
09:05They're going to the mountains to get married.
09:07So I think it was very romantic.
09:08And I mean, if I ever got the opportunity,
09:11if I had ever got the opportunity to do that to my partner,
09:14I think she would be really floored and charmed
09:17to fly someone to the mountains, get married there and come back.
09:22So it was very romantic.
09:23Both of you, did you go to the director and say,
09:25this is enough, too much violence.
09:27Let's keep it slightly, perhaps.
09:29It's not a Korean movie.
09:30Don't go totally dark on it.
09:33I think every scene, I always give Sandeep a look like,
09:36really?
09:37Like you're going that complex, every scene.
09:40I mean, there is not one scene in this film which is referenced.
09:44Everything is so original.
09:46I have never seen it on screen internationally also.
09:50Hindi films, definitely.
09:52So every scene when Sandeep used to narrate to me,
09:54I always had this look like, are we really doing this?
09:58I mean, he was way braver than me.
10:00When he was doing his stuff,
10:02I remember when I was meeting him later,
10:04he used to tell me we shot a kick-ass scene
10:06and then he used to describe the scene to me.
10:08And I used to ask him also, really?
10:10But I guess he was ahead in the curve.
10:14This movie, what are you all trying to perhaps gain?
10:16Is it for you, perhaps, going more into the darker space?
10:20For you, a reinvention from the romantic
10:23and for you to make more money?
10:27To be honest, it's all about money.
10:29It's all about making a commercial blockbuster film.
10:31It's entertainment.
10:32We are not here to just satisfy
10:34our intellectual needs as artists.
10:36We want to be part of films which are popular,
10:39which lots of people around the world will see.
10:41And that has always been the intention.
10:43And I think Animals is a step towards that.
10:45Of course, it's very cinematic.
10:47It's not just a formulaic film
10:49which is an action film
10:51and which will necessarily just do the trick
10:53in the box office because it's formula.
10:55But I think it's really pushing the boundaries
10:57of storytelling, of narrative,
10:59of characters, of everything.
11:01But the goal and intention
11:03is to make lots of money with this one.
11:05I like that.
11:06Do you have a number in mind?
11:07Of course.
11:08Tell me.
11:09I can't.
11:11You guys discussed it amongst yourselves.
11:13To be honest, I asked him,
11:14what's your number in your mind
11:15and he didn't tell me his.
11:16So we all have, I think,
11:17separate numbers in our minds.
11:18I'm sure he has a number.
11:20I'm just happy that...
11:22See, yes, money is important.
11:23I mean, definitely.
11:24Money means love.
11:25Yeah, no.
11:26Money means love?
11:27Let's put that on a t-shirt and walk out.
11:28Yeah, money means love.
11:29In cinema, if a lot of people watch your movies,
11:31it means they've loved your movie.
11:32But also, what makes this
11:34even more special is that
11:36the characters we've got to play,
11:38the opportunity he's got to play,
11:39the character he's playing,
11:40I've got, and others in the film,
11:42makes it even more special.
11:44When you play characters
11:45which make you so happy,
11:46you make money with it.
11:48It's an amazing combination.
11:50Right.
11:51What about you two?
11:52We make movies
11:54to entertain people.
11:56He doesn't need to make more money, by the way.
11:59He's got too much money.
12:01He needs to give his money to us,
12:02like distributed here.
12:03Success of the film.
12:04Yes.
12:05When the film is a success,
12:06you get, obviously,
12:07you get a collection of people's money.
12:09Okay.
12:10So, we are, it means
12:11we are very hopeful in this film.
12:12Yeah.
12:13We'll make a lot of money.
12:14And,
12:15and in terms of music also,
12:17music is really,
12:18really, really very good.
12:19And the way it goes,
12:20because when we were making this film,
12:23initially, we thought,
12:24I thought it will have,
12:25because of the script,
12:26it will have one, two songs and all.
12:28But when Sandeep started making the film,
12:30now it,
12:31we have seven songs.
12:33Oh, okay.
12:34And all seven are
12:35taking the story forward
12:37and all seven are commercial songs.
12:39So, normally,
12:40in a kind of film which we have made,
12:43music is very limited.
12:45But this time,
12:46it means he has gone beyond.
12:48He's knocked it out of the park.
12:49And it's,
12:50it's a fruitly commercial movie
12:52with a lot of emotion,
12:54a lot of action,
12:55family,
12:56everything.
12:57It's not specific
12:58to a certain audience
13:00or something.
13:01But it's,
13:02it's for everybody.
13:03We are very hopeful.
13:04I think it's,
13:05after a long time,
13:06there's a film
13:07which is actual drama.
13:08Yeah.
13:09It's not just action.
13:10Yeah,
13:11it's a family crime drama.
13:12That's the genre.
13:13But this kind of dramas
13:14don't come out that,
13:15you know,
13:16that's the kind of film
13:17it is.
13:18Right, right.
13:19Can you talk to me
13:20about Anil Kapoor
13:21as well, guys?
13:22I think he was
13:23the most interesting element.
13:24I feel he's going to
13:25like kill it as well
13:26for 40 years.
13:27He's growing younger
13:28and younger day by day.
13:29The patriarch of the family
13:30has to be me.
13:31Absolutely.
13:32And it's a father-son
13:33love story at the end of it.
13:34You know,
13:35it's about,
13:36it's a love story
13:37between a father and son.
13:38But,
13:39you know,
13:40we've been fans
13:41of Anil Kapoor
13:42since,
13:43I mean,
13:44I was born.
13:45I've had the
13:46good fortune
13:47of knowing him
13:48personally also.
13:49And to get him
13:50on a film
13:51and especially
13:52to play a father
13:53is a hard task
13:54because Anil Kapoor
13:55he really wanted to
13:56work with Sandeep himself.
13:57He really
13:58loved the part.
13:59He really loved
14:00the world that Sandeep
14:01was creating.
14:02So it was really
14:03a joy to work with him.
14:04He's a hard taskmaster
14:05because he comes in
14:06with so much of energy
14:07towards the scene
14:08and towards his character
14:09that you have to
14:10constantly be on your toes.
14:11You can't
14:12just be lax
14:13next to him
14:14when you're working
14:15with him.
14:16You've got to be on it.
14:17I mean,
14:18that's what Anil is
14:19all about.
14:20He's full of energy.
14:21That guy doesn't sit
14:22when we're doing a scene.
14:23He's just always moving.
14:25He's always alive.
14:26He's always working
14:27on something.
14:28And he has that
14:29touchwood.
14:30The crazy energy?
14:31Yeah.
14:32Okay,
14:33last question.
14:34Who's your favourite
14:35on-screen psychopath
14:36of all the movies?
14:37It can even be series.
14:38I mean,
14:39in Hindi movies
14:40have there been
14:41a lot of psychopath movies?
14:42There haven't, right?
14:43So if I had to take
14:44a Hollywood film
14:45I would probably say
14:46American Psycho.
14:47It's one of my
14:48top favourites.
14:49Christian Bale.
14:50Yeah.
14:51That and probably
14:52Taxi Driver
14:53if you call him
14:54in the recent times
14:55Joker.
14:56I mean,
14:57that thing was
14:58a phenomenal
14:59work that he did.
15:00Okay, brilliant.
15:01I really hope
15:02the movie does
15:03all the magic.
15:04And can I say
15:05Bobby Deol now
15:06in Animal?
15:07He's going to be
15:08I'm not saying
15:09anything.
15:10Cannibal,
15:11psychopath,
15:12what he is
15:13we don't know.
15:14We'll watch the movie
15:15and I really hope
15:16it does the numbers
15:17that you all
15:18have in your head.
15:19My number
15:20or his number?
15:21I don't know
15:22what your numbers are.
15:23I think you are
15:24one of the most
15:25influential reviewers
15:26in UAE
15:27so I hope
15:28that you are.
15:29I hope you caught
15:30that on record guys.
15:31Seriously,
15:32I'll go with
15:33an open mind
15:34which we always do.
15:35Which we were
15:36just discussing.
15:37You said that
15:38audience has become
15:39more forgiving now?
15:40Yes.
15:41Why do you say that?
15:42Because I've become
15:43more forgiving I feel
15:44and I see people
15:45enjoying so much
15:46more than before
15:47COVID.
15:48I think you
15:49were kind of
15:50hungover
15:51you don't want
15:52to have a great time
15:53at the movies.
15:54What a great time
15:55to be
15:56in India
15:57we are winning
15:58the World Cup
15:59very soon
16:00God willing
16:01we got some
16:02great movies in
16:03December
16:04we got Animal
16:05we got Sam Bahadur
16:06releasing on the
16:07same day
16:08we got Salar
16:09and Donkey
16:10coming at the
16:11end of the month
16:12so I think
16:13it's a great time
16:14to love the movies
16:15and India
16:16is so passionate
16:17about cricket
16:18and the movies
16:19This year has
16:20been great for us
16:21Thank you so much
16:22for your time
16:23and all the very best
16:24Thank you for entertaining us
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