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Trump health pick Kennedy grilled by Senate Democrats over vaccine, abortion views
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Good morning, this hearing will come to order.
00:05
But during a podcast interview in July of 2023, you said, quote, no vaccine is safe and effective.
00:13
In your testimony today, in order to prove you're not anti-vax, you note that all your kids are vaccinated.
00:21
But in a podcast in 2020, you said, and I quote,
00:25
you would do anything, pay anything to go back in time and not vaccinate your kids.
00:33
Mr. Kennedy, all of these things cannot be true.
00:39
So are you lying to Congress today when you say you are pro-vaccine?
00:45
Or did you lie on all those podcasts?
00:48
We have all of this on tape, by the way.
00:51
Senator, as you know, because it's been repeatedly debunked,
00:57
that statement that I made on the Lex Friedman podcast was a fragment of the statement.
01:02
He asked me and anybody who actually goes and looks at that podcast will see this.
01:09
He asked me, are there vaccines that are safe and effective?
01:12
And I said to him, some of the live virus vaccines are.
01:16
And I said there are no vaccines that are safe and effective.
01:20
And I was going to continue for every person.
01:23
Every medicine has people who are sensitive to them, including vaccines.
01:28
So he interrupted me at that point.
01:31
I've corrected it many times, including on national TV.
01:35
You know about this, Senator Wyden.
01:37
So bringing this up right now is dishonest.
01:39
Let's be clear about what you've actually done then, since you want to deny your statements.
01:46
For example, you have a history of trying to take vaccines away from people.
01:52
In May of 2021, you petitioned the Food and Drug Administration
01:57
to not only block Americans from having access to the COVID vaccine,
02:02
but to prevent any future access to the life-saving vaccine.
02:08
Are you denying that? Your name is on the petition.
02:12
We brought that petition after CDC recommended a COVID vaccine
02:19
without any scientific basis for six-year-old children.
02:25
What is so disturbing to me is that out of 330 million Americans,
02:31
we're being asked to put somebody in this job who has spent 50 years of his life
02:36
not honoring the tradition that he talked about at the beginning of this conversation,
02:41
but peddling in half-truths, peddling in false statements,
02:47
peddling in theories that create doubt about whether or not things that we know are safe are unsafe.
02:57
So I'm asking you yes or no, Mr. Kennedy.
03:01
Did you say that COVID-19 was a genetically engineered bioweapon
03:06
that targets black and white people but spared Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people?
03:12
I didn't say it was deliberately targeted.
03:15
I just quoted an NIH-funded, an NIH-published study.
03:23
Did you say that it targets black and white people but spared Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people?
03:28
I quoted a study, Your Honor.
03:30
I quoted an NIH study that showed that certain races are disproportionately…
03:34
I'll take that as a yes. I have to move on.
03:36
Did you say that Lyme disease is highly likely a materially engineered bioweapon?
03:44
I made sure I put in the highly likely.
03:47
Did you say Lyme disease is a highly likely militarily engineered bioweapon?
03:53
I probably did say that.
03:56
I want all of our colleagues to hear it, Mr. Kennedy.
04:00
I want them to hear it. You said yes.
04:02
Did you say that exposure to pesticides causes children to become transgender?
04:08
No, I never said that.
04:10
Okay, I have the record that I'll give to the chairman and he can make his judgment about what you said.
04:15
Did you write in your book, and it's undeniable,
04:20
that African AIDS is an entirely different disease from Western AIDS?
04:26
Yes or no, Mr. Kennedy?
04:28
I'm not sure if I…
04:30
Okay, I'll give it to the chairman, Mr. Kennedy, and my final question.
04:34
Did you say on a podcast, and I quote,
04:37
I wouldn't leave it, abortion, to the states.
04:41
My belief is we should leave it to the woman.
04:44
We shouldn't have the government involved even if it's full term.
04:48
Did you say that, Mr. Kennedy?
04:50
Senator, I believe that every abortion is a tragedy.
04:53
Did you say it, Mr. Kennedy?
04:55
This matters. It doesn't matter what you come here and say that isn't true,
05:01
that's not reflective of what you really believe,
05:04
that you haven't said over decade after decade after decade,
05:07
because unlike other jobs we're confirming around this place,
05:10
this is a job where it is life and death.
05:14
Did you say it, Mr. Kennedy?
05:16
I believe…
05:17
This matters. It doesn't matter what you come here and say that isn't true,
05:22
that's not reflective of what you really believe,
05:25
that you haven't said over decade after decade after decade,
05:28
because unlike other jobs we're confirming around this place,
05:31
this is a job where it is life and death.
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