00:00I had told the whole world that I am working with Dilip sir,
00:04whom I consider as my guru.
00:05I am working with Rajkumar sir.
00:07I am working with Subhash Ghai.
00:09They were all great people.
00:11I had told everyone.
00:12Did you work with them again?
00:14No, I didn't.
00:15You didn't work with Mr. Ghai?
00:17Neither did he call me, nor did I go to him.
00:19There are many people whom I have put in the blacklist.
00:24I don't want to meet them.
00:25It is a very big life.
00:27There are many people, apart from them.
00:29You worked with Dilip sir and Rajkumar sir.
00:44Yes.
00:45How was that experience?
00:47You have done a lot of research.
00:50Because I don't tell this to anyone for no reason.
00:54I haven't talked much about it.
00:58It was a very traumatic time for me.
01:04Why is that?
01:06Because I was given a role and it was a big role.
01:09After that, I was removed from that role.
01:13In the final edit?
01:14Yes.
01:15I had told the whole world that I am working with Dilip sir,
01:20whom I consider as my guru.
01:22I am working with Rajkumar sir.
01:24I am working with Subhash Ghai.
01:26They were all big people.
01:28I had told everyone.
01:30And the shooting was also done.
01:32I was telling because the shooting was going on.
01:35After that, when it was time for dubbing,
01:39people were dubbing.
01:41I was not invited.
01:43Oh!
01:45Surprise!
01:46I had said good dialogues.
01:48I have done a lot of things.
01:50I had done long scenes.
01:53The importance of this character can be given by this.
01:59The beginning of the film was with this character.
02:02Oh!
02:03And the end of the film is with this character.
02:05Oh!
02:06Did you tell any reason behind this?
02:08Why were you cut?
02:10This was a character of a terrorist.
02:13Oh!
02:14Who teaches terrorism to children.
02:19Oh!
02:21Whatever you want to achieve,
02:23achieve it with the power of a gun.
02:26He is teaching how to shoot a gun.
02:28Oh!
02:29Like this.
02:32So, the film starts from here.
02:35And
02:39finally,
02:44with this beginning,
02:46a story is told to all the children.
02:49Like, Anupam plays the role of a storyteller.
02:52Yes, a storyteller.
02:53So, I have a thing with him.
02:55What is he doing?
02:56What is he teaching people?
03:00Do you know what violence means?
03:03What happens?
03:05Those who teach violence,
03:07those who get involved in violence,
03:09do you know what happens as a result?
03:11Yes.
03:12I will tell you a story.
03:15And then the story is told.
03:17And then the rivalry between Dinesh sir and Rajkumar
03:22is highlighted in the film.
03:24Oh!
03:25And finally, when the film ends,
03:28this terrorist goes to the pass,
03:32where we were listening to the story.
03:34He goes to the pass from there.
03:36There is a bridge there.
03:38There is a bridge over the river.
03:40He throws a gun over that bridge.
03:44Oh!
03:45And the gun freezes.
03:47And the film ends there.
03:49It was so important.
03:51In between, Anupam and I have a confrontation.
03:57He tells the story.
03:59In between, the story comes back.
04:01His story goes on.
04:02It comes back.
04:03Then we have a confrontation.
04:05So, this is how the story was going on.
04:07And the first film.
04:10When I came to Bombay,
04:12it was the first film.
04:14Such a big film.
04:17And I told everyone.
04:19And the work, the respect I had,
04:23as an actor, as a theatre artist,
04:25as a teacher,
04:27I brought all that respect with me.
04:29Yes, absolutely.
04:30And when it happened that
04:35they made the film for 4.5 hours.
04:38Oh, because of the duration.
04:40The duration was 4.5 hours.
04:43So, somehow they cut half an hour.
04:45So, 4 hours were left.
04:48Then they cut a little more.
04:50So, 4.75 hours were left.
04:52What should we cut now?
04:54So, someone suggested to them
04:56that if they remove this character,
04:58don't take it to that side.
05:00Start their story straight.
05:04So, that idea came to their mind.
05:08When it came,
05:10they removed that character.
05:13So, I was in a lot of trauma at that time.
05:16This was the reason that
05:18when people have said this
05:20and I will not be seen now,
05:22what respect do I have?
05:24I was in a lot of trouble at that time.
05:27So, Mr. Ghai did not talk to you
05:29during this time?
05:31He did not say anything.
05:33Last time, I kept coming out.
05:35And his brother kept telling me
05:37that it is not right now.
05:39We will tell you.
05:41Finally,
05:43nothing like this happened
05:45from their side.
05:47It is possible that
05:49they might have been in this.
05:51What should I say?
05:55Did you work with them again?
05:57No, I did not.
05:59You did not work with Mr. Ghai?
06:01Neither did he call me,
06:03nor did I go to him.
06:05Do you still feel that
06:07Mr. Ghai did not call you again?
06:09Or did he not give you work?
06:11No.
06:13Or should he have given you a reward
06:15by casting you in a film?
06:17It would have been nice if he had given me a reward.
06:19But I understand people's
06:21compulsion.
06:23I also understand the trend here.
06:25There are a lot of people
06:27whom I have put
06:29in the blacklist.
06:31I see.
06:33Mr. Ghai is one of them.
06:35I have a lot of people.
06:37I neither like meeting them,
06:39nor do I try
06:41to meet them.
06:43They are all top-line people.
06:45I do not want to meet them.
06:47It is a very big life.
06:49There are a lot of people other than them.
06:51So,
06:53why should I?
06:55Neither should I make them awkward,
06:57nor should I make you awkward.
07:01Music
07:03Music
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