00:00I saw him in that four years as a peacemaker around the world rather than what we'd had
00:06for so many years before. American presidents rushing off to war everywhere
00:11and us going in the wake of it. I genuinely believe he's what the world needs.
00:18If you won't tell us whether you're going to spend some time with Donald Trump while you're here,
00:21will you get the opportunity to speak to Elon Musk?
00:25Yes.
00:25Have you already?
00:28We're talking.
00:29Because the most recent correspondence we had from him
00:33with regards to yourself was that you should be replaced as leader.
00:36That was some time ago.
00:38This is a fast-moving scene with Elon. It moves every day.
00:41Have you repaired that relationship?
00:42Yes. We've agreed there's no conflict between us. There's no need for there to be a conflict
00:47between us. He took a different view over a particular issue to me.
00:51Tommy Robinson?
00:52Yeah, and I don't change my mind for anybody.
00:54You know, if I believe in something as a matter of principle, I don't change my mind.
00:58Because there'll be some people who watch this back home and fundamentally feel that
01:02Elon Musk and the growing influence he seems to have back in the UK is a concern.
01:07Do you think that's a concern?
01:08We've had this for all time. You know, Lord Beaverbrook,
01:11you know, owned the newspapers in between the war.
01:13I'm not asking about him.
01:14I'm asking you about Elon Musk.
01:16Well, no, the point I'm making is that actually the Elon phenomenon
01:19is not quite as unusual as you're saying it is.
01:22Rupert Murdoch's an Australian, now an American, who's had a massive impact over our lives.
01:26You could argue he has even more power than even the great print magnets of the past.
01:31It certainly is. I mean, it's a very powerful situation that he has.
01:34But you know something? The British public aren't stupid.
01:37You know, if they think what Elon Musk is saying makes sense, he'll be very influential.
01:43If they think he doesn't make sense, he won't be.
01:45Don't underestimate. You know, people are good at making their own minds up.
01:49I do think, I really do think on the grooming gang horror, he's kind of reawakened
01:56a national debate around something that I think most of us feel was covered up.
02:01You've had a few days in Washington.
02:03I understand there was a big party at the beginning of the weekend
02:06where you were introduced as the next prime minister of the United Kingdom.
02:11Do you share that view?
02:13I tell you what, once every 50 to 100 years,
02:18we get something remarkable happens in British politics.
02:21And I think we are potentially at one of those moments.
02:26You know, the Liberal Party disappeared after the First World War and were replaced
02:31by the Labour Party. Are we at one of those moments?
02:34It feels to me like we are. Yes, I think there is such a level.
02:38You sit here today genuinely thinking you could be the next prime minister?
02:41Yes, I do. I do.
02:44I think, I think that our trust and our faith in the two parties,
02:51or maybe actually they really are the union party,
02:54but there isn't much to choose between them.
02:56I think the damage they've done to the country in the last couple of decades,
03:00the damage, particularly the people's quality of life that has occurred,
03:04mean people want something different.
03:06And I think what we're offering, what I'm trying to offer,
03:08is a much more positive vision for how we think about ourselves,
03:12how we think about our past and who we are as a people and where we're going to go.
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