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00:00Welcome back to TV Bharat. We have with us Co-Chairman Srinidhar J. Laghrok, Co-Chairman of LAPEX Body.
00:11As you all know, yesterday on January 15th, MHA had its second round of talks.
00:17We will ask him about the outcomes and the topics discussed.
00:23Sir, we had our second round of talks on January 15th.
00:27What were the outcomes and what were the topics discussed?
00:32Since the establishment of LADAG-UT, there has been no recruitment in the government administration.
00:42We have discussed this in great detail.
00:46We had discussed this issue in the first round as well.
00:52It was almost sorted out.
00:55However, there were some things that were left unresolved in this meeting.
01:00For example, 95% reservation had already been done.
01:06However, it was not cleared on domicile.
01:10This time, the domicile has also been cleared.
01:13The government said 15%, we said 20%.
01:17If any of you are in LADAG-UT, it will only be for a job.
01:21Anyone can come and participate.
01:24If you have been in LADAG-UT for 15 years, you can participate.
01:32As far as cadres are concerned,
01:36when there will be recruitment, which cadres will you go to?
01:39Will you go to LADAG-UT cadres, J&K cadres or DENIX cadres?
01:44We said that our first preference would be LADAG-UT's separate cadres.
01:52If that is not possible, then we will club with J&K for cadres.
01:59However, we completely rejected DENIX.
02:08In our discussion yesterday,
02:11we said that if we give the Legislative Assembly to LADAG-UT,
02:16then we will dissolve the Hill Council.
02:20Our Chief Executive Counsellors from Leh and Kargil did not object to this.
02:28We have 30 counsellors from Leh and 30 counsellors from Kargil.
02:34What will happen to them?
02:36How many seats will we get in the Assembly?
02:40How will we be represented?
02:43There was no serious discussion on this.
02:46But the government said that if you ask for a statehood,
02:53then what will happen to both the councils?
02:56We said that the council is not that important for us.
03:01Even if the council is not there, we have no objection.
03:06Both the CECs were there.
03:09They said that we can sacrifice this for LADAG-UT.
03:14We can leave our seats.
03:16For example, if both the councils are removed,
03:24then MLAs will replace the councillors.
03:28Then there will be a separate delimitation.
03:31And the number of seats will be decided by the government.
03:37I think there should be at least 30 seats.
03:41Sir, there has been a discussion on the Nautor land.
03:47How was the discussion on that?
03:50That was not part of our agenda.
03:53That was announced by the government.
03:55There was no discussion.
03:57We did not discuss it.
03:59The government said that the problem in Nautor,
04:02the people of LADAG,
04:04could not build a commercial or residential house on it.
04:08The government stopped the registration.
04:12They have removed it.
04:14They informed us.
04:16There was no discussion.
04:18They informed us.
04:20Maybe the government is issuing an order.
04:23If we talk about recruitment,
04:25there has been no recruitment in the last 6 years.
04:28Not a single post has been advertised about Gazette.
04:32What has been discussed in this?
04:36Regarding recruitment,
04:38our third round of talks,
04:40which is going to happen on 15th February,
04:43they say that all posts will be advertised.
04:48What is this?
04:50It can be advertised.
04:52The recruitment rules of the departments that have been established,
04:56can be advertised.
04:58Earlier, they said that they will start with technical,
05:03gazetted posts.
05:05Engineers, doctors,
05:07or any other type of post.
05:09They will do it through UPSC.
05:12They can do it whenever they want.
05:14But their recruitment rule should be established.
05:21If we come back to the 4-point agenda,
05:26the Sikh Schedule is a part of our agenda.
05:32What are the discussions about it?
05:35How long will it take to address it?
05:38What do you have to say about it?
05:40There has been no serious discussion about it.
05:43The government has indicated that the Sikh Schedule is a bit difficult.
05:49You are concerned about eating mangoes,
05:53not counting your stomachs.
05:55They have said that they will provide support in a different way.
05:58We have said that we are open to it.
06:01But there is a condition.
06:03If the government accepts the demand of our legislature,
06:08then we can discuss the other issue,
06:11which is the issue of our Sikh Schedule.
06:15But if we do not get the legislature,
06:21then we will say that we should not get the Sikh Schedule.
06:27How long has the second round of talks been?
06:32How satisfactory has it been?
06:34Has it been more or less than we expected?
06:38It has not been more.
06:40It has been on the expected lines.
06:42There were some things that were left out.
06:46There was more clarity in it this time.
06:49There was also a decision that if there is no recruitment for 5 years,
06:56then the children whose age has exceeded 5 years,
07:00will get relaxation for 5 years.
07:05That has also been discussed.
07:08In the third round of talks,
07:10which is tentatively scheduled for February 15,
07:13what discussions will be more focused on?
07:17Your KDA and EPICS?
07:19In that, I think the catering issue should be resolved.
07:23Whatever happens.
07:25After that, we will talk about our main issue,
07:28the statehood and the Sikh Schedule.
07:30Sir, I have one more question.
07:32In addressing the four-point agenda,
07:35why is it taking so long?
07:40It takes time because a lot of things have to be discussed one by one.
07:45For example, the meeting that took place yesterday
07:48was mostly about recruitment.
07:51But there was a debate for two and a half hours.
07:54So it takes time.
07:56If we remember,
07:58when we were negotiating with the government for the Hill Council,
08:03from 1989 to 1995,
08:06we negotiated with the government for 5-6 years.
08:09So it takes time.
08:11People should be patient.
08:15Things don't get sorted out so quickly.
08:20Thank you so much for joining us, sir.