00:00Binoy, talk about Robin, how is your relationship, Binoy's relationship with your partner Rustom, and Binoy's relationship with Bibi? I mean, compare them.
00:19There's a big difference because Robin and Rustom are brothers. So they treat each other as brothers, and then the biggest difference is that Robin treats Rustom as a brother.
00:32Now, my relationship with Robin is brother and sister. I really feel that when I'm with him. When we're in line, ladies first.
00:43We went to the mosque in Taiwan. I was wearing a hijab when I entered as a woman. He recognized everything.
00:56So he's treating me as a sister now, more than a brother. And then also, because of his personality, he treats me like a younger sister.
01:13What was that process like? In the beginning, Robin didn't understand that right away.
01:18Yes, there was a time when he didn't want to see me.
01:21Where did it pivot?
01:23To my mother.
01:25Okay.
01:27To my mother.
01:29Marielle, how are you and Marielle?
01:31I think, with all due respect to Robin's relationships, I think she's the best thing that ever happened to Robin, as far as the relationship is concerned.
01:45They're very swag, and she's also very loving as far as my mother.
01:50She is.
01:52And then, your brother Roy had passed on. Was it last year?
01:56No, it's four years ago.
01:58Four years ago. But you didn't go home?
02:00No.
02:02You know, in the pre-interview, I was told that you said in an article that he was the big brother you never met. What does that mean?
02:11Because I was never close to him.
02:15I didn't know him as a person, not as a big brother, but as a person.
02:23What kind of person he was.
02:26We never talked about his aspirations, his frustrations. We never went that far.
02:38But if you were to tell him, I mean, he's just there. I mean, I believe that somehow they listen to us.
02:44You know, we're not alone in this world.
02:46If you had something to say to your brother, Roy, what would you say to him?
03:01There are so many things I want to say.
03:04What comes to mind?
03:09I wish I could, because I can't say what I want to say.
03:14But what I want to say is, I hope we have a chance to talk.
03:25I want to talk to him, actually.
03:28And just talk?
03:30Just talk.
03:33Just talk.
03:34Just talk.
03:36Because the most painful thing that happened to me was the pandemic.
03:45It hit me so hard because I was on Zoom while awake and all.
03:54And then after, I was on Zoom until midnight.
03:58And then after midnight, I was dead.
04:00All of a sudden, I couldn't do anything.
04:02It was painful, right?
04:04It was painful. I couldn't do anything.
04:06That's when I felt, oh my God, this is so painful.
04:10It's like I didn't have a proper goodbye.
04:14Up to the last minute, I didn't have a moment with him just to be with us.
04:21Yeah.
04:23I understand.
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