Smylie Kaufman Helps Make Sense of Viktor Hovland's Double-Pump

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00:00Victor Hovland. Do you see that double pump driver move?

00:03It's sick.

00:05It's so sick.

00:06I it's just the the ability to kind of stop it and reload it

00:10and hit it.

00:11So what I read and maybe again, this is another thing you can

00:14expound on a little bit for people who want a deeper level

00:17of understanding was just that for guys a natural cutter of

00:20the golf ball.

00:20He said he likes to use it when he wants to work the ball

00:23right to left.

00:24Can you explain that a little more detail?

00:27Well, just thinking about his risk mechanics.

00:29He's also a huge flexion guy.

00:31Like he gets that left hand here, right?

00:33It like he gets it.

00:34Actually, the club is very vertical and then in transition.

00:38He just creates so much that clubhead just goes straight

00:42inside which is sick for me.

00:45My I don't have the right most impossible to do.

00:47I don't have the right risk mechanics to do that because I

00:49have more copy with my left wrist, which why I'm a good

00:52wedge player, but also struggle with driving the ball.

00:55But yeah, it's cool.

00:57Imagine it.

00:57He probably has to feel that to just not rotate too soon out

01:02of the top.

01:03So it almost like makes you pause to stop and then it's

01:06like, all right, there goes the club and it kind of maybe

01:09just makes you slow down a little bit.

01:12Also from the Victor Hovland files big win for CSI TSS as we

01:17were correct.

01:18We recreated the crime scene properly.

01:22It was like we I think everybody knew everything everybody

01:24knew it was pretty obvious.

01:26But just nice to be right on that one.

01:27We're pending confirmation from Scotty Scheffler on the

01:30recreation of that crime scene, but good to be right on at

01:33least one of those.

01:34Yeah, I would say to like with Victor Holland and I know

01:37you're probably about to get into this with Joe Mayo in the

01:40split with him and his coach.

01:41That's something that took us all a little bit by surprise

01:45because we kind of felt like the second half of the year was

01:48like, okay, Victor understands what he's doing again with

01:50this golf swing.

01:52He's back with his coach.

01:53Chipping wasn't great during that time.

01:55So we expected just a bounce back here and I think we talked

01:58about it before the week and I think that pump drill that

02:02we're talking about just a moment ago.

02:05I really feel like he hasn't done that in quite some time.

02:08So there must be something from an ownership standpoint that

02:12he's like, you know what?

02:13I know what I did when I was playing.

02:15Well, I know he probably goes back to even as US amateur days

02:20when he was playing at Pebble Beach and we won one out there

02:22and what his golf swing looked like then what his feels were

02:25players don't forget what their feels are when they're playing

02:29really well.

02:30And so most likely and similar to a guy like Justin Thomas

02:33who's, you know, not you really hardly using any coaches.

02:36Now.

02:36He's just trying to take ownership of what he does.

02:38Yes, he can bounce ideas off of people.

02:41And I honestly I think that's best for Victor.

02:43Like he's he's seen enough coaches to this point.

02:46Go play the golf that you know to play and just remember those

02:49feels and then just try to simplify the game.

02:52Well, and that's exactly where I was hoping to head next and

02:55I want to kind of further that question a little bit from a

02:58bigger picture perspective because he said in an interview

03:01that the desire to split from from Joe Mayo was was mainly to

03:04own his own swing, right?

03:06And so just a question from a fan perspective doesn't

03:09understand the ins and outs of, you know, playing at a tour

03:12level and what it's like to have a coach at that level.

03:17Can you explain a little bit of just the spectrum that tour

03:21pros live on from, you know, the difference between a guy who

03:24needs a coach to be there with him all the time, you know,

03:28deep in the weeds in the minutiae and a guy that wants

03:30to be more like, let's say Victor Hovland or Justin Thomas

03:33and kind of own it on his own.

03:34Like, well, yeah, explain the psyche of those two different

03:37types of players.

03:38You've heard of I thought wills out to us was a good example

03:41of this this week is

03:43he has got off to a really good start at 60

03:4663 or 8 under his first round.

03:48However, manner that is 73 throws me off 65

03:5265 70 65 73 got off to a good start.

03:55And in the interview with Todd Lewis thought was interesting

03:57is that he was basically saying that last year, you know, he

04:01was

04:02working too much on his golf swing trying to find and and

04:06perfect something that

04:08is normally a strength of his and he was

04:10hitting too many balls wearing himself out.

04:13And I think his goal heading into the year was just to be

04:16ready when he got here to be able to just go play golf.

04:19That's when he plays his best.

04:20So I think it's an understanding for most players

04:23of what do I need from myself my coaches to play the best that

04:28I can do.

04:29I need more information.

04:30Do I need less?

04:31And I think Willie Z is a great example.

04:33I was that way too.

04:35And when I really got off is when I started over practicing

04:37trying to perfect something or find something and sometimes

04:41you got to do it.

04:42Sometimes.

04:43Hey, listen,

04:44the the prescription from your from your doctor or coaches.

04:48Hey, you got to go find it in the dirt.

04:50And sometimes you can get worse doing it.

04:52But a lot of times good players can go back and find one or two

04:56fields that they can really just groove in and and put the

04:59refs in and the amount of time and effort.

05:01They need to over it.

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