" mazakraat so feesad kamyaab hunge ya bilkul nakaam ho jayen ge, " Javed Latif

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00:00In your personal opinion, Rauf Hassan has said 50-50.

00:05In your opinion, what is the percentage of success of these negotiations,

00:09looking at the ground reality?

00:13There is no 50-50 or 100% right or 100% left.

00:21The reason for this is that I am very clear, Mr. Mohammad Malik,

00:24that there is a pressure from the international powers.

00:28I am very clear that the international powers,

00:32in accordance with their needs and for their purposes,

00:36support the international establishment in the world,

00:40to contact people or to stand up for people,

00:46to stand up for a state, or to stand up for a personality,

00:50to stand up for a community,

00:52is not possible without their own benefit.

00:55Now, the question is, what can the person in Adiala Jail give them?

01:01And what is their demand?

01:03The thing is, there is no demand between us and you.

01:07We have a demand.

01:09It is according to the law, that if the legal institutions are working,

01:13and there is something called law in Pakistan,

01:17then if a decision of 190 million pounds was to be made today,

01:21then if it has been taken forward for some reason,

01:25which Rauf Hassan or the rest of the people are saying,

01:28then it is very strange and I am very disappointed.

01:30So, what are you saying?

01:32You are saying that your Prime Minister has cracked under the pressure

01:39and is forced to do these negotiations,

01:42even though he thinks that these negotiations should not take place,

01:44and Imran Khan is not right for the country,

01:46everything is there,

01:48and he has cracked for himself to save his government?

01:52And he has sat down for negotiations?

01:54No, Mr. Mohammad Malik.

01:56No, no, Mr. Mohammad Malik.

01:58I am very sorry, you are being unfair.

02:00Sir, I have a question.

02:01You also have knowledge.

02:03If you have a question,

02:05then I have already answered this question 2-4 times in your program.

02:11If you remove the election of 2018 and 2024,

02:18then you come to the election of 2013,

02:20or the election of 1993,

02:22or the election of 1997,

02:24or the election of 1990,

02:26which in my mind,

02:28a political party won the election,

02:30and the people who voted,

02:32they are less criticized,

02:34not much criticized.

02:36That is why I am saying this.

02:39Those communities or their leadership

02:41have the courage to clash with the world powers

02:43for the benefit of their state.

02:45Now come,

02:47this government,

02:49you yourself are saying that

02:51your lifeline is such a thing

02:53or such a base,

02:55then tell me

02:57that this threat,

02:59according to Rauf Hassan,

03:01that he is saying that

03:03this is a threat,

03:05that this is a threat,

03:07that he is saying

03:09that our Mazaakarats

03:11are from the establishment,

03:13this is a bad name,

03:15the government is standing,

03:17then if there is pressure

03:19of the world powers,

03:21then the real power

03:23will be according to Rauf Hassan,

03:25or the dummy,

03:27according to you,

03:29or according to Rauf Hassan,

03:31that he is standing,

03:33will come to him.

03:35I am stating the reality

03:37and the 90% portion is...

03:39I want to take a break,

03:41but before the break,

03:43I have a question.

03:45As you said,

03:47the question has been raised

03:49whether this Mazaakarati committee

03:51is completely in power,

03:53the real power is with Imran Khan.

03:55My question to you is,

03:57the government that you have

03:59sitting as a negotiating committee,

04:01is the government and this committee

04:03able to take a decision

04:05sitting with the PTI?

04:07Look,

04:09Mohammad Malik Sahib,

04:11neither the government

04:13of the time,

04:15the committee made

04:17is in power

04:19with respect to 9th, 10th May

04:21or 190 million pounds,

04:23nor the PTI

04:25committee

04:27is in power,

04:29because Imran Khan

04:31will not agree

04:33with his decision.

04:35So you are saying

04:37that the critical issues,

04:39if the government is in power

04:41and is not able to

04:43take a decision,

04:45then these are non-starter negotiations.

04:47Then it seems

04:49that these are

04:51non-starters.

04:53No, look,

04:55Mohammad Malik Sahib,

04:57you are a senior

04:59and you have

05:01been through a lot.

05:03Tell me,

05:05can the government committee

05:07take a decision of 190 million pounds?

05:09Can the government committee

05:11leave the mastermind

05:13of 9th, 10th May,

05:15the planning committee

05:17of the time?

05:19And then,

05:21if both the things cannot be done,

05:23then the PTI committee

05:25or Imran Khan,

05:27how will Imran Khan

05:29accept his decision

05:31without his consent?

05:33He had two governments.

05:35I am being asked about the break.

05:37I have two very sensitive questions.

05:39Please stay with us after the break.

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