00:00On the 20th of December, I received a body of a cat named Lily.
00:11It was before viral that she was murdered in Newsea, Malaya in one of the faculty and
00:17the body was passed to me and it was brought to a private vet where I requested for the
00:24doctor to help me identify what actually happened to the body, what happened to Lily.
00:31Based on the medical report, it showed that she was not murdered by dogs, she was murdered
00:39by someone, which we need to find out who immediately.
00:46Her limbs were cut with something sharp, which is impossible for any other animals,
00:53dogs or other animals, to do this to a body, to a cat.
00:57So it is very crucial that we find out what actually happened, who did this to her,
01:04because this could happen again, it will happen again, and we might not discover the body this
01:10time, it could happen to another human. So it is important for the authorities,
01:16PDRM, DVS and UM themselves to find out what actually is going on and to tell the public
01:26what is happening right now.
01:46But Lily did not have any of the items that were found, and also the clean cut,
01:52her legs from the x-ray all looked like she was using a sharp tool.
02:01And there was no sign of struggle, we did not see the cat, which usually the dog would bite the
02:08neck and also the stomach and the belly, but not here, there was no sign of
02:16struggle.
02:24This issue has become an important issue, where cats, multiple cats have been murdered
02:30in the University of Malaya campus, and yet the police have merely stated that this is the action
02:36of dogs. Now this makes no sense at all, as you can clearly see from this x-ray here,
02:42that this here, this limb has been cut, the cutting is so clear, I'm a layperson,
02:48I'm not a doctor, and it's obvious to me, how can a dog do this? Did DVS get a post-mortem report?
02:56There are cats dead in Malaysia's premier university, and what is DVS doing? Why did
03:02they not do a post-mortem? How can you come to the conclusion that dogs did it without a
03:08post-mortem? Doesn't make sense, isn't it? How can the PDRM say NFA? How can they come to the
03:14conclusion it's dogs? That is number one. Number two, if you look at the medical report that they
03:20have obtained from a private vet, based on the appearance of the wounds and the clean cuts
03:26observed at the joint levels, the lesions are highly likely to have been caused by a sharp
03:32equipment. Now this, you don't need a doctor to tell you this. The cutting is so sharp,
03:38that it's obvious that a sharp instrument was used. How can you say that a dog did this?
03:46We demand, we demand that the PDRM, we demand that the DVS, and we also demand that University
03:53of Malaya investigate this matter, investigate the murder of these cats, and come to the bottom of
04:00this problem. And where is the Animal Welfare Board? The Animal Welfare Board is supposed to
04:08take care of animal welfare. We have cats that are being murdered in University of Malaya,
04:13and not a peep from the Animal Welfare Board. All animal activists in Malaysia and the Malaysian
04:20public need to question the Animal Welfare Board. The Animal Welfare Board needs to come out and
04:26defend itself, due to their inaction. No statement, not even a single statement.
04:33This is completely unacceptable. We, the Malaysian public, are not going to accept this. We are not
04:39going to accept this entire issue being blamed on dogs, when it's very clearly that some individual
04:45has committed this crime. We demand that the police investigate this matter properly,
04:50that the DVS do a post-mortem, and come to the bottom of this issue,
04:55and not just try to sweep it under the rug. It's completely unacceptable.
04:59What are the next steps that you are planning to do to pursue this case further?
05:04The next step would be, we demand that the police, DVS and UN, open back the investigation,
05:13make sure the safety of all the cats, and possible dogs, and the students there in the campus,
05:21to not take things lightly, and to really take these things seriously. They can't speak for
05:28themselves, the animals can't defend themselves, so it's our job to fight for them, and to find
05:33justice for Lily and the friends. What legal avenues do we have to challenge
05:39PDRM's decision, given that we have this evidence? Let's say, this is not a piece of evidence that
05:45they would have, so could we get them to reinstate the investigation with fresh evidence?
05:52In relation to the investigation by PDRM, we don't have legal avenues in the sense that,
05:57you know, we can't take them to court, unfortunately. But what we do have,
06:01is we have the power of public pressure. And the public must voice out and demand
06:06that the murders of these cats are investigated properly. Because it's very clear that a proper
06:13investigation has not been done. Because if a proper investigation was done,
06:17then where is the post-mortem report? Okay, so that is with PDRM. How about with
06:22BBS? Because PDRM is under Penal Code, and BBS under Animal Welfare Act. Could we challenge them
06:28on their decision, with fresh evidence? I think that's exactly what we are doing
06:33right now. We are challenging their statement, because they issued multiple statements saying
06:38that these are the actions of dogs. We are challenging them. We have a medical report,
06:42and we have an X-ray. We have two. Medical report and X-ray to challenge them, saying that,
06:46no, this is not dogs. Now, if they want to say, no, no, no, you are wrong. Okay, come,
06:51tell us why they are wrong. If I'm wrong, I'll happily apologise. No problem.
06:56So, I would expect you to submit this to them officially, and, you know, with public pressure,
07:01you will be compelled to reinvestigate their decision?
07:04It's not for us to submit, it's for them to go and investigate.
07:07You know, why do we, the people, why do we have to investigate? They are being paid, right?
07:15It's the taxpayers' money. The DBS is being paid by the taxpayers' money. It is their duty to
07:20investigate. Go and investigate. Do your job. Correct or not? It's not my job.
07:26Have they approached us for this case, not yet?
07:28No. The DBS, have they done the post-mortem? That's the most important question.
07:34And how did they come to the conclusion that this is the action of dogs?
07:38Just because there's a CCTV where you can see some dogs and cats and interaction between them,
07:44that doesn't mean that the dog took out a knife and chopped off the cat's legs.
07:48Because that is what happened in this case. All four limbs were chopped off using a sharp
07:52instrument. It's very clear from the x-ray, it's very clear from the medical report.
07:57How many bodies does the DBS have right now?
08:00We have no idea. Number one, we have no idea how many cats have been murdered,
08:05but we know it's more than one. And we have no idea how many cats are in the possession of DBS.
08:10Why is there no transparency? It has to be very, very transparent. This is a public interest issue.
08:16We are all animal lovers in Malaysia. Doesn't matter what animal.
08:20We don't want any of the animals to suffer any harm at all.
08:23So that is the purpose of the DBS. DBS was created to ensure that animals are kept safe,
08:29that they are not abused, that anyone who abuses an animal is immediately brought to justice and
08:34given their rightful punishment. So in this situation, what is DBS doing? Where is the
08:40Animal Welfare Board? Why are they silent? Do we know what happened to the corpses that
08:46they found? So one of the matter that is very, I know that they were taken it not seriously.
08:51So we have, they have discovered a lot of bodies and we can only see it on pictures,
08:56on social media. It has been viral around. But my question is, you know this has been going on.
09:02What they did was once they found the body, they immediately buried the body.
09:07Why? I mean, I mean, why are you covering it up? Why aren't you like making it? This is a serious,
09:13serious issue, right? So why are you treating those cats like the garbage? I mean, if you're
09:21really, really serious about the severity of this situation, they would at least call DBS,
09:29make police report immediately, or at least preserve the body of the dead cats. So this is
09:34how I managed to get the body of Lily because the students are very like, they themselves are like,
09:40they are scared and they don't know what's going on. This is the cat that they've been taking care
09:43of for years and they want to know what happened. Obviously, it's not dogs. So with all their effort,
09:50they work together and say, we need help. We want to know what happens to our cat.
09:54So they themselves dug out the body. It was freshly buried and they dug out the body
09:59and they handed it over to me. Because we are students, we don't know what to do. So I was like,
10:03we need to, you know, check. We need to fight for Lily.
10:19Okay. CCTV ini, CCTV tersebut berlaku pada November, 27, 25 November. Dan kalau kita perhatikan
10:29betul-betul, kita boleh nampak kucing itu is still alive. But can you, pihak you ada kisah kan
10:36untuk hantar pada what you call forensic video untuk confirm, even the police can do it. Can you
10:41confirm it's the same cat that you found the body? There is no confirmation. It was just cut off,
10:48it's on the CCTV. Is it the same cat? Can you prove to us it's the same cat? And why is there
10:54only one CCTV? For today, we've seen how many pictures we have seen? Four, five, at least
11:01dead bodies. Four. Confirm four dead bodies. And one is with me. Where is the CCTV of Lily?
11:07And you can simply conclude, oh, semua anjing ada. It could be a different cat for all we know.
11:13And the location of the cat, CCTV itu, it's not where you found the dead body.
11:19It could be any other cat. And Lily was found on the third floor of the building. Don't tell me you
11:25allow dogs go up and down in your faculty and your compound. What kind of security system you have
11:30in your compound? I mean, something is really wrong.
11:44Dan kalau lebih ramai yang membantu untuk mencari bukti, mencari siapa culprit ini, dari segi
11:49undang-undangnya, bagaimana kita, bagaimana mereka ini boleh didakwa dan hukuman bagaimana yang akan
11:55diterima oleh pelaku ini? Seseorang pelaku yang telahpun mendela mana-mana haiwan haruslah
12:02dituduh di bawah Seksyen 29 Akta Terbajikan Haiwan 2015, di mana hukuman yang akan dikenakan adalah
12:10maksimal sebanyak 3 tahun di penjara dan juga minimum RM20,000 fine atau maksimum RM100,000 fine.
12:17Tetapi kami memohon dan kami berharap bahwa jika pelaku tertindakan yang keji ini dapat ditangkap,
12:23dia dimasukkan, disumpat terus ke dalam, ke dalam to prison, ke penjara selama sekurang-kurangnya
12:302 atau 3 tahun. Sepatutnya dia kena dapat hukuman maksimum lah. Soal apa yang dilakukan ini sangat-sangat
12:36keji dan sangat-sangat is very cruel, sangat-sangat kejam.
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