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L.A. County D.A. Pushes for Governor to Give Menendez Brothers Clemency | TMZ Live
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Huge development for Erik and Lyle Menendez ... the L.A. County D.A. is pushing for a path to freedom that could set the brothers free in a matter of weeks.
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Going out on a limb, right out of the gate.
00:02
Menendez brothers will be freemen by the end of the year.
00:07
I feel it, and I'll tell you why.
00:11
I feel like maybe you're feeling the,
00:14
clearly I understand and I feel it also,
00:16
this public swell for it.
00:19
But there's still a few hurdles, big ones.
00:23
The public swell is exactly what should not be considered.
00:27
I agree, and I feel like that's what you're feeling.
00:30
No, it's not, it's not.
00:31
What I'm feeling is what's going on legally.
00:34
And what's going on legally is the district attorney
00:38
of L.A. County, and that is the office
00:41
that prosecuted the Menendez brothers,
00:43
got them convicted, George Gascon.
00:45
Now he wasn't the D.A., obviously.
00:47
Wasn't the D.A., but he's the D.A. now.
00:49
He has now come out, he's already come out
00:51
and said he thinks that they should go
00:54
before the parole board immediately.
00:56
And he's essentially said, I want them out.
01:00
And he said that because yesterday,
01:02
he voiced strong support, that's a quote,
01:06
strong support for clemency,
01:09
which means that the governor has on his desk now,
01:12
in fact, we broke this story,
01:14
and even we had Mark Geragos,
01:16
the Menendez brothers' lawyer on TMZ Live
01:18
earlier in the week, saying they've gone to the governor
01:21
and said, commute their sentence and set them free.
01:26
And grant them clemency.
01:27
Now, Gascon has said, I strongly support that.
01:33
So both sides want clemency.
01:35
But legally, what you have, you have, yes,
01:38
the Menendez brothers' attorney,
01:40
they've asked for clemency, I get that.
01:43
You have the D.A. saying he strongly supports clemency.
01:47
I get that, that makes sense.
01:49
It's almost no duh to me because he's the one
01:52
who started this whole rolling, right?
01:53
But there's another element to this,
01:56
and I think this is gonna come out,
01:57
and I think it's gonna come out in the papers
01:59
that Geragos has filed, that the Menendez brothers
02:03
have been evaluated behind bars.
02:06
They are considered model prisoners,
02:08
they are rehabilitated,
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they don't pose a danger anymore to anyone.
02:14
I know that sounds ironic because they killed
02:16
the two people with whom they were having a problem.
02:19
That's right.
02:20
But the governor will have that before them.
02:24
So essentially, the prison is saying they're fit
02:26
for release, the D.A. is saying release them.
02:29
Obviously, the Menendez brothers want them out.
02:32
Well, Harvey, the most compelling thing here
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is the governor has the power.
02:35
There's no more wild card.
02:36
If the governor commutes their sentence,
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that is it, they leave prison.
02:39
You don't need a judge to sign off on it.
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That is the power of a governor to do so.
02:43
He has called it compelling evidence,
02:44
and he's indicating that he's going to free them.
02:46
That's the fastest path for them, the governor.
02:49
But I don't think that that's necessarily
02:52
the way Governor Gavin Newsom is gonna go with this.
02:55
Here's what he said about this case on his podcast.
02:58
Just last weekend.
02:59
Yes, last weekend.
03:00
I met with the team that put that series together
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about nine months ago, and they gave me a heads up.
03:06
They said, watch, see what happens after this series
03:11
is released, because it's gonna generate
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a lot more conversation around whether or not
03:14
these guys should be released or resentenced.
03:16
And here we are, fast track, not so many months later.
03:21
But one thing is crystal clear.
03:23
This is what I do for a living every week,
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including, no BS, literally today,
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we go through all the parole board recommendations.
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I was working on pardons independent
03:34
of the Menendez brothers, and commutations today as well,
03:38
particularly this time of year around Thanksgiving.
03:42
This is obviously some new compelling evidence
03:44
that was introduced, and so we'll see where the judge goes.
03:48
Okay, he said a couple of really important things.
03:52
One was, obviously, we'll see which way the judge goes.
03:56
That sounds like he's kicking the can to the judge.
04:01
So that was a sign of something.
04:04
And we'll get into what the judge can do in a minute.
04:06
The other thing that I find troubling
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is he said he met with Ryan Murphy's team nine months ago.
04:13
Or they contacted him, I don't know if he met with them.
04:15
He said, I met with the team.
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Why?
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I thought he said that they, anyway,
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he definitely was in contact with them.
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But it sounded like they came to him and said,
04:25
pay attention to this, this is gonna.
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That's so wrong.
04:29
I mean, if the production of that show went to him,
04:34
it's like, that's not the way it should work.
04:36
It's not about what the public wants.
04:38
Then you all end up with a lynch mob on the other side
04:42
if you start looking at what the public wants for justice.
04:45
That's not the way things work.
04:47
It shouldn't be, let's take a vote,
04:49
so-and-so goes to prison, so-and-so gets out.
04:52
That's not the way the justice system is supposed to work.
04:55
It's supposed to work with judges, with the governor,
04:58
not looking at how is the public feeling about this.
05:02
I couldn't agree more.
05:03
I actually read his comments pretty clearly.
05:06
I think what he's saying is, we'll see what the judge does.
05:09
If the judge looks at this compelling evidence
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and does the right thing, that's fine.
05:12
If not, I'm another path.
05:13
I have this stuff on my desk, and I'll do it myself.
05:16
I read that absolutely clearly.
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I read that as political hot potato,
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and he's saying, Gavin Newsom is elected also,
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and we've said, we've noticed over the last few weeks,
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this is, there is a clear divide.
05:28
This is not, most people want them out.
05:30
I think it's maybe 50-50, right?
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At best. At best.
05:34
So is Gavin Newsom gonna put his neck on the line?
05:37
Gavin Newsom, who has presidential aspirations,
05:41
can you see the presidential ad
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that however many years from now,
05:44
he let the Menendez brothers out.
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He's not gonna do it.
05:48
I'm not gonna argue with you.
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He is kicking it to the judge.
05:50
And by the way, so now we know that,
05:54
you're right, but here's the deal.
05:57
There was a hearing on December 11th.
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Now it's very clear that the DA
06:02
wants the Menendez brothers freed, period.
06:06
Now, there's a rub here, and here's the rub.
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If the DA wants him freed,
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then you go to court and we know
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that the Menendez brothers' lawyers are gonna say,
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we don't want just resentencing.
06:19
We want you to change the conviction.
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If they change it to manslaughter,
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they're out immediately.
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They could be out on December 11th.
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Here's the rub.
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And we haven't even talked about this.
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The rub is December 11th.
06:30
The new DA gets sworn in, I believe, on December 2nd.
06:34
That's right.
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And so if Gascon loses, the new DA,
06:38
who we had on TMZ Live, he can rewire the whole thing.
06:43
So December 11th is a problematic date.
06:47
It is a problematic date.
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It is.
06:50
We never talked about that.
06:50
Yeah.
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