00:00What about ninja cops? How many cops have you identified and considered as ninja cops in the area where you used to be assigned?
00:12Well, the original ninja cops, what we call the original ninja cops, they are less than 10, Mr. Chair.
00:20So, for example, in Moriones, you were assigned to Moriones. Would you still remember how many policemen were there in Moriones?
00:30I think during that time, we have 300 plus policemen, Mr. Chair.
00:36And out of 300, Colonel Leonardo, how many are considered to be ninja cops in that particular assignment of yours?
00:43So far, Mr. Chair, in Tondo, there were no ninja cops assigned there, Mr. Chair. I only identified those who were less than 10.
00:57So you did not identify any ninja cops in Moriones, in Tondo?
01:02There were none, Mr. Chair. The original ninja cops, I'm referring to the original ninja cops, Mr. Chair.
01:09Can you educate me, what do you mean by original ninja cops? Are there hybrid ninja cops? Are there fake ninja cops?
01:22These ninja cops are batches that came from Manila Police District.
01:35And then they started, at first, doing some cotton cops.
01:42They will arrest people and they would plant some evidence so that they can mark them with an amount that a victim could afford to give to them.
02:04So in the area where you were assigned, the planting of evidence was prevalent?
02:12During my time, Mr. Chair, I think it already evolved into a bigger type of operation, Mr. Chair, by the ninja cops.
02:28So these are the scalawags, right? What about those who recycle drugs?
02:34They will arrest the evidence, hide half of it, and recycle it back on the streets. Did you identify anyone like that?
02:44Actually, through intelligence operations, we identified a lot, Mr. Chair.
02:50Did you file a case?
02:51I believe there are a lot of cases in the region, Mr. Chair.
02:55And these are the cops that recycle drugs? These are the ninja cops?
03:01That's right, Mr. Chair. And there are also small ninja cops, bolt-in, banketa group, and other groups that almost comply with the ninja cops, Mr. Chair.
03:14So there are a lot of systems in the work of the scalawags?
03:21Prior to 2016, Mr. Chair, there were a lot.
03:25So what you mentioned earlier, ninja cops, these are the ones who recycle drugs. They will arrest and recycle. What about the other one you mentioned?
03:35The small ninja?
03:37The small ninja. What are the small ninja?
03:39These are a group of rogue policemen that tend to follow the modus of the ninja cops.
03:53And they were able to learn from the ninja cops, the original ninja cops.
03:56And since the ninja cops are aiming for a bigger haul, like for example, 5 kilos up is the target of the ninja cops.
04:04So those 1 to 2 kilos, they won't really arrest that.
04:12But these small ninja, they will catch the small ones. That's why they are called small ninja.
04:21According to our intel research, Mr. Chair.
04:23Okay. What about the other one? So there are ninja cops, small ninja. What are the others?
04:29There are also...
04:31The one you mentioned earlier, banketa. What do you mean by banketa cops?
04:35These banketa groups, they are policemen who will conduct an anti-illegal drug operation, but will negotiate those arrested outside the office.
04:50These are the ones that are bribed. If someone is arrested, bribed, there is evidence, the suspect will negotiate.
04:59They will ask for money. If they are paid money, they will be arrested.
05:03That's right, Mr. Chair.
05:05They will hide the evidence.
05:07That's right, Mr. Chair.
05:09So those are the banketa cops. So there are ninja cops, small ninja. There are banketa cops. What are the others?
05:14There are also what we call bolt-in.
05:17Bolt-in.
05:19It's almost the same.
05:21If they get information that there is a target of drug personalities that they will catch, then these will bolt-in.
05:31Usually, they are also like that. They will also badge.
05:35Then they will conduct the operation.
05:38Again, each office does not know about this.
05:40Again, each office does not know about this, Mr. Chair.
05:44So in other words, Colonel, what you mean to say is, in spite of the fact that there was a strict order on the implementation of war on drugs,
05:55there are still many kinds of scoundrels in the PNP who are not afraid of the order to implement war on drugs? Is that understanding correct?
06:07Everything I'm saying is before 2016 July.
06:13When war on drugs happened, all of those were gone, Mr. Chair.
06:18So it means that these different types of scoundrels in the PNP were gone when war on drugs was implemented in 2016?
06:32Yes, the PNP ensured that they will be covered in the operations of double barrel, Mr. Chair.
06:42Okay. The double barrel was implemented, right?
06:45The police who were killed, were they the so-called Ninja Cops, Ninja Lit, Banketa Cops?
06:57Were they the police who were killed?
07:00Were they part of the group of scoundrels you mentioned?
07:06Regarding that, Mr. Chair, I don't have personal knowledge.
07:13I wouldn't know, Mr. Chair, because the region is the one in charge of implementing the plan of double barrel, Mr. Chair.
07:25Okay. Thank you, Colonel Leonardo.
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